Florida Primary Open Thread

Posted on January 31, 2012 by myiq2xu (D)

The polls will be closing soon. All the experts are predicting a win for Romney. The only question is how big a win it will be.

Next up will be the Nevada caucuses on Saturday, February 4th.

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60 Responses

  1. DeniseVB, on January 31, 2012 at 4:49 pm said:

    From CNN’s email:

    With most polls now closed in Florida’s Republican presidential primary, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is taking an early lead in the first returns.

    With 21% of polls reporting, Romney had 49% of the vote. Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich was getting 29% of the early votes. Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum had 13%, and U.S. Rep. Ron Paul had 7%.

    Some polls in Florida’s Panhandle don’t close until 8 p.m. ET. CNN will not make any projections until after all polls close.

  2. DeniseVB, on January 31, 2012 at 5:04 pm said:

    CNN gloats:

    Mitt Romney will win the Florida Republican primary and all its 50 delegates, CNN projects.

    Romney becomes the first GOP candidate to win two primary contests this year. He won the New Hampshire primary earlier this month. The battle for the Republican presidential nomination now moves to the Nevada caucuses on Saturday.

  3. 1539days, on January 31, 2012 at 5:09 pm said:

    Mitt Romney had to outspend Gingrich 4 to 1 to get less than 50%. He will likely be outspent 2 to 1 by Obama, including the Obama media. So far, Gingrich is the only guy who can win on a shoestring.

  4. HELENK, on January 31, 2012 at 5:32 pm said:

    the invisible primary an interesting concept

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/01/31/the-invisible-primary/

  5. DeniseVB, on January 31, 2012 at 5:43 pm said:

    Scanning FB and Twitter, this is cute from our friend Ali Akbar:

    It was over after Iowa, it was over after New Hampshire, it was over before we started voting! … It’s not over.

    So let’s not let the media tell us it’s over, ‘k ? I don’t think Sarah weighed in soon enough, dang FL’s been early voting since Halloween it seems……..

  6. votermom, on January 31, 2012 at 5:55 pm said:
  7. insanelysane, on January 31, 2012 at 6:23 pm said:

    Mitt is growing on me.
    He is awfully cute…and since Obama = Romney…
    I may vote cute factor…
    LOL

    Is that raCi$t?

    Anyway, is there anything more American than Mormon?
    I can see a sea gull from my porch!

  8. myiq2xu, on January 31, 2012 at 7:00 pm said:

    ZOMFG!!!

    HOUSE OF DARK SHADOWS IS ON TCM!!!!!!11!

  9. myiq2xu, on January 31, 2012 at 8:47 pm said:

    Legal Insurrection:

    Looks like turnout down 200k from 2008. Notice that when Romney ties/wins (IA, NH, FL) no turnout surge, when Newt won in SC huge turnout surge. Turnout will be important in November 2012, and while Romney is winning, he’s not motivating new voters to come out. Bad sign so far.

    • angienc, on February 1, 2012 at 2:35 am said:

      “False narrative?” Like when Newt said that Romney tried to take kosher meals away from elderly Jewish people on Medicare in MA? (Totally false — the issue was after the home decided to close the kosher kitchen at one of their facilities where only 8% of the residents kept kosher due to budget constraints & bring in kosher meals for those residents daily from their larger facility or contract the meals to an outside vendor; Romney vetoed a budget that would have given MORE money to the home so it could keep that kitchen open — the residents were NEVER in danger of being denied kosher meals). Or how about when the Newt ad that Romney was “anti-immigration” as in all immigration that Rubio came out saying was totally inaccurate & which Newt pulled & admitted that it was inaccurate?

      The only false narratives going around here are that (1) Newt is some “Washington outsider” when he made every cent he has through DC politics; (2) that he is the “true conservative” when he’s had 3 wives & at least 2 adulterous affairs; (3) that he is some kind of “historian” when he was denied tenure at some 3rd rate college; and (4) that Newt has a snowball’s change in hell of winning against Obama — he can’t “debate” Romney if there is no noise & he can’t “debate” when the halls are allegedly packed with Romney supporters – how packed for Obama does he think the presidential debate halls will be? But, of course, the “great debater” has already said he isn’t even going to debate Obama if the moderator works for a network, so maybe he’s counting on no presidential debates, just him delivering a monologue in front of a cherry-picked crowd.

      Sarah — I’ve always stood up for you, but you can officially kiss my ass.

      *None of this, btw, is an endorsement of Romney — just a rant on Newt & this bullshit meme that the MEDIA is trying to sell us that Newt is the “anti-establishment” candidate. He isn’t — he’s just an asshole.

      • 1539days, on February 1, 2012 at 3:31 am said:

        Mitt was so truthful he spent 17 million dollars to Newt’s $4 million to get 45% of the primary voters. Newt says one thing about Kosher meals and it’s treated like his stump speech.

        Newt is the anti-establishment candidate. The media wants him gone so they can get Romneycare the nomination, If Santorum endorses Newt, Romney is back in trouble. Mitt has to seriously get those conservative voters back for the next 3 months, because all he did with those ads was depress turnout. And that model will lose him the general election,

        • myiq2xu, on February 1, 2012 at 4:48 am said:

          Santorum won’t endorse Newt – He plans to be Mitt’s mate.

        • DandyTiger, on February 1, 2012 at 9:07 am said:

          If so, Rick is in for a surprise, it ain’t going to happen. Mitt will need someone from the South, most likely latino. But he might pull Rick into the admin if he wins in some way.

          Actually I think Rick has really helped himself in the party during this race. He has been mostly fair and pounded away with conservative talking points. I think he’s redeeming himself from his senate loss in ’06.

        • angienc, on February 1, 2012 at 10:18 am said:

          It really is sad to see people who saw through the Obama falling for Newt — and really there is no excuse because Newt has a history/record.

          I’m not addressing anything about Romney — I’m not endorsing Romney and feel no need to defend him about any thing — I’m disgusted by Newt & how he is playing people like a fiddle with his “People’s Party” bullshit when I remember his “Contract with America” bullshit.

          A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots.

        • Three Wickets, on February 1, 2012 at 12:26 pm said:

          No one’s “falling for Newt” angie. At least I’m not. But what we have right now is the establishment elite’s Mitt and Barack show, and they are loving it. And by they I mean the Obots and the establishment GOP, the Donna Brazile crowd and the Karl Rove crowd. They are all celebrating today with glee. That should be a clue. And for me, anything that throws a wrench into that is a good thing for this country because I truly believe the most dangerous reality in our politics today is the exclusive rule by creative class elites. It has become unprecedented. Throwing a wrench at that doesn’t necessarily mean electing Newt for the frickin presidential beauty contest. There is more at stake than that. It means putting enough pressure on the elites to break up some of these establishment blocks.

      • votermom, on February 1, 2012 at 5:34 am said:

        About the kosher meals (from 2007)
        He vetoed a law that would give $5 extra per kosher diner.
        State legislature overrode him.
        Doesn’t sound “totally false” – since the veto was not enforced, “never in any danger” is purely hypothetical.
        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0107/2550.html

        As to Newt being “anti-establishment” – I think the reality is closer to what Hillary is. It’s not that the media & DNC didn’t consider her an insider – it’s that they considered her uncontrollable. If she won she would have been calling the shots and not bowing to Big Money.
        I think they fear the same of Newt – he will do his own thing if he wins and that scares them. (Some of what he does may be scary to me too, for the record)

        • angienc, on February 1, 2012 at 10:26 am said:

          And what part of that makes you think that the elderly patients were going to be — or were ever in danger of being — DENIED kosher meals? Because that is what Newt said –not intricacies of budgets, etc. I don’t care how it “sounds” to you, but what Newt said, the narrative he tried to create, is TOTALLY FALSE.

          Again, though, I’m defending Romney –but most of his negative ads about Newt were the TRUTH. Newt was the one trying to create the FALSE NARRATIVE.

        • angienc, on February 1, 2012 at 10:27 am said:

          *should have been: I’m not trying to defend Romney.

        • votermom, on February 1, 2012 at 10:32 am said:

          More on the kosher ad
          http://spectator.org/blog/2012/01/31/gingrich-right-in-kosher-ad

          I still don’t trust Newt, but I really don’t want Mitt to be the nominee.
          I am hoping that Mitt & Newt destroy each other in this primary.

        • votermom, on February 1, 2012 at 10:46 am said:

          In fact I am at the point where I would be ok if Santorum, Paul, or Newt get the nomination – any non-Mitt will do.
          The regime of Bush-Obama-Romney-Jeb has got to be defeated.

      • Three Wickets, on February 1, 2012 at 5:34 am said:

        Don’t disagree with most of that, except the part about “true conservative” meaning no divorce. Newt is not a true conservative because his governing record on actual policy is more moderate than his campaign rhetoric, just like Romney. It’s not about his serial marriages imo. But as to his anti-establishment posture during this campaign, I think it’s valid….at least to the extent that Obots and the RNC and the political and media elites want an Obama-Romney general election. It’s a win-win for them, and they can all go back to being arrogant twits and forgetting about the proles for another term. A couple of weeks ago, Newt had everyone in DC nervous. Last night they were all back to being insufferable assholes, not nervous at all. Obama or Romney, the creative class wins.

        • Three Wickets, on February 1, 2012 at 6:15 am said:

          Not looking forward to this media choreographed ultimate deathmatch charade between Obama and Romney for the rest of the year. They are on the same team, they have essentially the same policy priorities, they both flip flop. I may start calling them the Kabuki Twins.

        • DandyTiger, on February 1, 2012 at 9:08 am said:

          Good point. I agree. Newt is not a true conservative not because of his marriages.

          Ironically, you could make the case that both Newt and Mitt are more progressive than Obama. Now that’s frick’ing irritating.

        • angienc, on February 1, 2012 at 10:22 am said:

          Yes, his record isn’t that conservative either, but I do think the marriages & adulterous affairs count against him on that score. Social conservatives — like Sarah Palin — are always espousing about family values, etc & then they turn around and support the thrice married Newt? He’s the candidate which best reflects their beliefs? The “true conservative?” MY ASS!

          Honestly as big of a tool that Santorum is, if Palin, etc. were endorsing him, I could see that. But three time married Newt? Again: Bullshit. And people falling for it. SMH.

      • DandyTiger, on February 1, 2012 at 9:04 am said:

        Love a good rant!!

    • votermom, on February 1, 2012 at 5:05 am said:

      Mitt sure has money to burn. I wonder how much he would pay for my little PA vote? Can I auction it on ebay? Would that be wrong?

  13. DandyTiger, on January 31, 2012 at 11:20 pm said:

    Newt’s speech was quite good. It’s hard to beat the machine though. We’ll likely get a choice between two people even George Soros says are the same person. Having no real choice is the plan. Sucks.

  14. myiq2xu, on January 31, 2012 at 11:31 pm said:

    Anglachel:

    Poor Wall Street. They have such a hard choice this election year.

    Should they vote for the candidate they own who occasionally makes tsk-tsk noises about them in speeches and only delivers 99% of what they want, but who makes them feel like they’ve done something morally daring, even hip, by voting for a black dude, or should they put their weight behind the candidate they own who loudly proclaims their greatness in speeches and will be even more obliging in policy, but who may wear goofy underdrawers?

  15. Kk, on January 31, 2012 at 11:55 pm said:

    thanks for covering this myiq…hmmmmm

  18. HELENK, on February 1, 2012 at 8:26 am said:

    Oh just great, the owies are coming to a city near you!!!!!!!

    http://biggovernment.com/jsshapiro/2012/02/01/exclusive-cross-country-occupy-marches-planned-for-mayday-well-quarter-our-troops-in-homes-across-america-2/

    May 1 a communist holiday they are marching and plan to occupy homes across the country.
    I am sure they will be great guests. Just look how they have behaved when occupying taxpayer parks.

  20. HELENK, on February 1, 2012 at 9:13 am said:

    are you supposed to hand your opponent the ammunition to use against you???
    I can see the ads now
    I am a rich guy who does not give a damn about the poor

    please do not tell me this is John McCain all over again

    http://www.verumserum.com/

  21. HELENK, on February 1, 2012 at 9:28 am said:

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/dems-release-false-report-on-fast-and-furious/

    Sen Grassly replies to dem report on fast and furious

  26. HELENK, on February 1, 2012 at 11:00 am said:

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/352881

    maybe people are waking up, but what will the backtrack bunch do if they go into panic mode??

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