Get thee under the bus!


Obama aides say Rosen shows president will take on friends

Senior Obama aides say the president’s criticism of Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen’s comments shows he’s willing to stand up to his friends, unlike Mitt Romney.

The argument from the aides is an effort to find a bright spot in the controversy over Rosen, who said Ann Romney had “never worked a day in her life.” Rosen apologized for the comments on Thursday.

Doing damage control, White House adviser David Plouffe and Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod made separate appearances Thursday night to contrast Obama’s public response to Rosen to Romney’s response to controversial comments made by conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

“I think we have an obligation in politics and public life, when someone, even friends, say things that are inappropriate, to say so. In fact, in certain ways, when your friends say it, there is more of an obligation to do so,” Axelrod said on CNN.


All it proves is that Obama will thrown anyone under the bus. Just ask his dear old gray-haired grandma.


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  1. We should start a UTB party. We should be the majority by now.

  2. http://americanglob.com/2012/04/12/hilarity-rosen/

    dems banging head against a stone wall

  3. It’s only April and I’m weary already. The only people who could believe such ridiculous spin are the koolaid addicts who need to go to rehab…..

  4. Hey, you guys remember when I said that an important statistic is that hispanic women are twice as likely to be stay at home moms? And they take their cultural attachment to the nuclear family and more traditional mothering very seriously? And that mama latinas are extremely valued in that culture?

    I’ve seen several hispanic posters today watching Univision say that the network is covering the hell out of all this. It’s wall to wall – more so than the English networks.

  5. I’ve been watching the conservative women on twitter today. They started seeing lots of tweets from journos about this being a “distraction”, etc. The message is pretty much, “Okay, we’ve let you have your little tantrum, now we’ll get back to controlling the narrative.”

    They ain’t backing down, and they are not surrendering control of the narrative to their betters. They know that the only reason the press and the Dems were FORCED to address the issue was because conservative women cried foul loudly, and with a fury. Otherwise it would have been just another throwaway interview in a long string of them bashing conservative women as practically inhuman and not real women at all. The press would never have batted an eye if the women hadn’t forced it.

    It’s no longer only about what Rosen said. From what I can see, it’s about:

    “If you disagree with my politics, then cowgirl up and let’s have that debate. But I am fucking sick and tired of being de-valued and lied about as a woman, a mother, and a human being because I don’t share your political ideology. From here on out we are calling you on your bullshit and pointing it out every single time..”

    • WMCB ~ where/who are those tweets you are watching? It sounds fascinating and I’d love to have me some, too. Is there a designation called conservative women? Remember, i’m completely new to twitter and need to be led by hand sometimes. (Been gone all day and just got back a bit ago.) thanks for any suggestions r/t this topic

    • Rosen was not bashing conservative women. She was bashing Mitt Romney which is her job. He’s the one who held his wife up to scrutiny and Rosen took a look, told the truth and was pilloried for it. If conservative women can’t see that, it’s because they’re not the brightest bulbs in the bunch. Even Greta Van Susteren, Mary Matalin and Bay Buchanan understood what Rosen was saying.

      • Thank you for informing us that half the women in the country are teh stooooopid. Lovely sentiment for a feminist, but whatever floats your boat. And you still can’t get away from those appeals to authority, can you?

        Besides,Hilary Rosen is so completely out of touch due to her privileged position as a six-figure earner, that anything she has to say on the needs and concerns of women as a whole is just laughable. Do you realize that most women in this country do not make anywhere near that? As a matter of fact, every woman you named there is absolutely UNQUALIFIED to comment on the economic concerns of most women as well.

        See how that works? Please tell me your particular life story and income level as well, so I can decide if you are exactly like me enough for your opinions about women’s concerns to cut the mustard.

      • Do you have a list, JeanLouise? Because I’d like to see it. Please list for me women in the public sphere whom you perceive as having valuable things to say about women’s economic concerns, so that I may apply to them the same standard that Hilary Rosen applied to Ann Romney.

        I’ll wait.

        • Oh, and Hillary Clinton is OUT, by The Rosen Rule. She’s waaay too fucking rich, and has nothing to say to stay at home moms at all, since she isn’t one.

          Make your list carefully. Because the standard is the standard, no matter how much I may like the woman in question. We’re playing by Rosen rules, here.

        • Still waiting, but while I’m waiting I’m scratching off Eleanor Roosevelt from the list of women who might have anything pertinent to say to me.

          Fucking heiress.

        • You know, WMCB, the thing that jumps out at me about this firestorm is that Hilary Rosen –a professional at this stuff– could have doused the flames if she’d framed her apology properly. Joan Walsh is saying Rosen shouldn’t have had to apologize, but of course she had to because that’s part of the game she’s playing. What she should have done is said, very contritely, I was wrong, Mitt Romney as the candidate is fair game but family should be off limits, and apologize with all the faux sincerity she could muster while looking into the camera and addressing Ann Romney, woman to woman, “I’m sorry, Ann, I respect your work as a mother.”

          Hilary Rosen has been around long enough to know that’s the way to put out a fire but couldn’t do it because people defending Obama (like Bush defenders were) are so invested in the deceit they can’t think rationally.

  6. Hilary Rosen threw gasoline on a smoldering fire. Many women have been quietly angry over the treatment of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin and many women who dared to enter politics. Many women in the work place have a harder time then men even though there are laws against gender discrimination.
    This was just one time too many that a woman was put down. The fact that some democratic women seem to think this is ok just makes it worse.
    I do not think it will be forgotten or forgiven.

    • The Obama campaign has made the serious mistake of thinking that just because women and all the other groups he has mightily pissed off have not been running around protesting and being loud, they disappeared.

      The anger never went away. People have just been hunkered down, living their lives, and waiting. Smoldering fire is an apt description.

    • Did they also forget SAHMs and retired women do most of the grunt volunteer work for campaigns !?

  7. I really wish we had a press corps. I really wish one of them would corner Axelrod and push him to answer if he is actually saying that a public relations professional in the paid employ of the DNC, who helped create Game Change, whose website boasted of helping to create Obama’s campaign themes, was pushing a narrative completely independent of any whitehouse input.

    Really?

    Obama’s history has always been one of hiring out the dirty work, then throwing that person under the bus once the damage is done so he can take the high road and cluck cluck over “tone”. The press (or conservatives if they won’t), need to start EXPOSING that pattern.

  8. http://www.investopedia.com/articles/pf/08/insure-homemaker.asp

    insurance co estimate of what it would cost to replace a homemaker.

    you know those JUST stay at home moms

  9. iowahawkblog: Samuel Colt has empowered more women than Gloria Steinem.

  10. iowahawkblog: How DARE you make a manufactured controversy out of my manufactured controversy! #HarrumphHarrumph

  11. iowahawkblog: Apparently, when the DNC mapped out its year-long “War on Women” strategy, they forgot a Plan B.

  12. Everyone is expendable to the Obama’s and every damn remaining Democrat better remember it. Congress persons, party officials, Supreme court justices, high flying lawyers servings as Solicitor General, co-conspiring PR flacks, and every single flunkie working for his campaign are toilet paper stuck to his shoe. They deserve every humiliation they have dumped on them. Go away Rosen. Let people who saw this jerk for what he is from the beginning deal with him you hack.

      • more reason for the backtrack bunch to throw her under the bus. she does not seem to be following the party line

        • I think when Jay Carney said there were “three Hillary Rosens: the democratic strategist, the CNN commentator, and…” He actually didn’t say what the third thing was, but guess the WH crew probably thinks it’s “hardcore lobbyist for corporate America”. Lol.

    • I know i’ve said this before, but it’s a true story and I have to keep reminding myself . . . I had a client who had been a Obama volunteer for years – from when he ran for the stated legislature. She was possibly 60 (when I knew her) and unemployed due to illness, but a viable and smart and smart-looking AA female. She had decided to work at her local Obama (for Senate) campaign office and one day, she and the rest of the “seasoned” AA volunteers were called into the office and let go – being told that Obama “was not allowed to have any volunteers in his offices.” Shortly after that he hired an all-white group of college grads for each of his offices. They were such brats. I know because I had cause to interact with them at a “town hall” meeting. I still shake my head at the duplicity of the man and the utter gulliblity of those supporters.

  13. does anyone remember when meeeschele wanted to be paid for being the first lady?????

  14. Now Joan Walsh is weighing in. What is wrong with these people?!

    Ann Romney should apologize!

    But Republicans still won’t shut up about it. An aggrieved Ann Romney even told Fox News, “I will tell you that Mitt said to me more times than I can imagine, Ann, your job is more important than mine,” and added that as the mother of five grown boys, “I know what it’s like to struggle.”

    Well, I’d like to demand that Ann Romney apologize to all women for equating the “struggle” of a wealthy mother who had full-time household help to that of a poor or working-class job-holding mother, who must choose between her job and her children when a child gets sick.

    http://www.salon.com/2012/04/12/ann_romney_should_apologize/singleton/

    • OFFS. Ann Romney was obviously referring to her struggle to overcome breast cancer and MS.
      Joanne Walsh should go jump in a lake.

      • I’ve known rich people and poor people and middle class people; what I’ve never known is a person who, by mid-life, hasn’t struggled with something. Especially a mother of five sons who’s had breast cancer and MS.

        Why Democrats keep digging themselves deeper and deeper into this hole is beyond me.

      • I watched that whole interview with Ann. She talked about her job as a mom. She acknowledged that she was fortunate to not have financial struggles. Then she went ON to talk about the struggles she HAS had.

        Joan just edited out the middle part to suit her narrative of out-of-touch rich bitch.

        Keep digging, assholes.

    • Some people get so caught up in the tribal wars that they don’t know when to shut up.

      There is nothing to be gained by attacking Ann Romney.

    • Here’s the comment I left early this morning:

      Are you serious, Joan. Look, you are also privileged. So is Hilary Rosen. All three of you–Romney, Rosen, and Walsh–have more than I’ve ever had and more than I’ll ever have combined. You folks all have more than you need. Quite frankly, NOT ONE OF YOU speaks for me, but Ann Romeny gets closer. Wanna know why? She’s nice. She’s not insulting. She may be arrogant, but you can’t tell it from the time she opens her mouth or puts pen to paper, like I can with you and Hilary.

      As a life-long feminist, let me give you a clue from a working class sister: The Democratic party has failed miserably to do anything about the status of women except offer more birth control & abortion. We need more than that. Your contraception/abortion scares aren’t working anymore.

      Clue in and catch up. Because you know who else has failed to deliver anything of substance to working class women? Feminists. 90% of feminist policies benefit women in college or who have graduated from college. Traditional leftist feminism has the stink of privilege all over it. That’s as much why Dems lost the gender gap as the fact that the GOP ran women prominently in 2010. Us peons out here are aware of this little gambit and what it’s about, and we are not buying. Not until Dems and traditional feminists get off their duffs and start delivering more than dependency to working class and poor people.

      • Great rant! Do they even realize how transparently laughable they are?

        It’s getting so tiresome. Nancy Pelosi, Caroline Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Teresa Heinz Kerry – all wealthy and privileged, but curiously portrayed as perfectly capable of empathy, listening, and speaking to the needs and concerns of women as a whole.

        Ann Romney? SHUT UP, RICH BITCH! YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND NOTHIN!

        I’m sorry, but the Dems are going to need a better message than running around screaming, “But….the Republicans hates wimminzzzz!!!! Because….racist! Rich rich rich!!!! And abortion! And rich racist haaaaaates you all!!!” if they ever want my vote again.

      • Oh, and the comments on that article have gone off the deep end. Some earlier ones were good, but now it’s just insane ugliness from women who hate Ann Romney for……. what? I can’t tell, because they are not even coherent.

        I mean, seriously, do any of these women even know any actual normal everyday republican women? Because they talk about them like they are all sociopathic monsters. Are their lives that cloistered?

        • You know, I was thinking about this, about why these conservative women appeal to me. I was a dyed-in-the-kool-aid believer. My values haven’t really changed, except I’m much more tolerant of other ideas, and I’m more willing to entertain ideas traditionally considered “opposition” than I was. But I’m not a conservative by any stretch, though I’m not exactly liberal either. My economic experience and class transitions have impacted my political values more than anything else. I like my work, I just wish I could do something that people appreciated and paid well.

          And it struck me; I like these women because, for the first time, there are women who look and sound like me on the stage. These are the voices of earnest hard workers, many of whom pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps (Palin & Bahcmann, for examples), and they have an honest, straightforward syntax and cadance. This is familar to me because it is similar to my own midwestern tendencies. I think that’s why I’m attracted to them.

          And of course these out-of-touch NE liberal feminists are completely foreign and their style is offensive to my sensibilities. I was willing to tolerate their authority to an extent, but once something more familiar came along and it became clear that coastal feminists wanted to shut them out, that was it for me. They were saying I was unacceptable, which I’d always suspected they thought, but now I have proof.

        • I’ve heard many women say the similar things lately. The Dems need to be very afraid. They are playing by decades old rules, combatting a caricature of Republican women that has not been true for ages now, and seem unaware of how much the ground is shifting under their feet.

      • Awesome!

      • Wow! just Wow.

        “Traditional leftist feminism has the stink of privilege all over it.”

        I wish I could write like that.

      • Lola you are ON FIRE today!

  15. OT:

    Matt “Cornfed” Cain has a no-hitter thru five innings.

  16. Media today is endlessly whining about “manufactured outrage”.

    Because manufacturing outrages is supposed to be their job, and they’re just pissy because their job got outsourced by a bunch of tweeting and blogging moms who stomped all over their asses and stole their “We Control The Narrative” magic decoder ring. No fair!

  17. The more I think about it the more puzzled I become. So we are supposed to believe that the millionaires barry and mechelle can relate to the struggles of the average American but the millionaires mittens and ann can not?
    Makes no sense.

  18. “I think we have an obligation in politics and public life, when someone, even friends, say things that are inappropriate, to say so…..”

    Unless they are male. Most of the men in the Obama circle are defended and excused, like how the campus cops were “stupid” to the poor innocent professor who required a beer summit. Has anyone ever heard of Obama hosting a beer summit for a woman?

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