Earlier today my friend Cynthia and I were discussing her interactions with Maha of Mahablog. I wouldn’t recommend clicking that link unless you’re in firm control of your emotions. Maha is Barbara O’Brien, the About Buddhism writer for About.com. Ironically enough in light of that, she runs Mahablog, which is the one of the stinkiest kool aide waterholes I’ve ever had the displeasure to revisit. Extremely pro-Obama, O’Brein is also one of the left-identifying women who thinks she speaks for the vast majority of women, except of course for the 514 she thinks stay at home to take care of the kids. She lives in NYC, so I do understand why she’s fallen victim to the noise machine. It’s all she can hear.
Apparently she and Cynthia got into it after I dropped a link to Cynthia’s latest about the exciting demise of traditional leftist feminism into a snickering post about how Republicans couldn’t possibly win the war for women, as the WSJ suggested. O’Brien is still of the mind that Democrats have got this woman thing, the result of 2010 (and 2004) notwithstanding. She doesn’t see that the ground has shifted and that her communication style is offensive to vast swaths of the American middle. If she did, she would swing very fast into a tone of reasonableness and be strategizing for how she can effectively sell her side to American women. Instead she’s still laughing at the possibility, even though she was just shown in 2010 that it could be done, that Republicans could win so many women that Democrats would lose and lose hard.
This led to a discussion with Cynthia about the fine art of trolling for women, which is something I’ve been engaged in unofficially (and on my own) for almost two years now. But it’s not something I’ve ever talked about much, or written about. It struck me that maybe it’s time I did. Maybe there are others who would like to join me or strike out on their own to attempt to insert their own POV into the narrative. I developed this idea on my own, but it was born of the genius of the Obama camp’s employment of Cass Sunstein’s group polarization study in the 2008 campaign. Now, I’m sure you’re wonder trolling for women? WTF is that?
Trolling for Women involves dummy accounts and dedicated time spent at opposition headquarters. It can be as simple as dropping a link into comments at one of these places, or it can involve the long-term development of characters at some of the most powerful blogs, like Daily Kos. The purpose is to persuade, confuse, or intimidate depending upon the audience. At the Washington Post, one wants to keep a reasonable tone because the audience is going to be all over the place and you want to be persuasive. At a place like Daily Kos, you might want to write a diary that stealthily introduced opposition memes into the conversation (being conscious to avoid buzzwords from the opposition). The reason is because intimidating them does no good and they are beyond persuasion. Confusing them is a good end result. But you might also want to become a diarist known for writing about the moderate or liberal cause that is near and dear to your own heart. I have a longstanding account with a male name at Daily Kos that I use to write about pro-woman things. I do this to provide another example to that very needy audience of a male supportive of women and feminist issues.
At a place like Mahablog, where you have true believers and dangerous anti-feminist narratives floating around, you want to intimidate and confuse if you can. You want to go toe to toe as strongly opinionated women and you want to win. It doesn’t matter if Maha or her regular commenters are persuaded, that’s not winning. Winning is modeling that you won’t back down and how to not back down for any chance readers, or casual or young readers who are not entirely persuaded to her side. This is a good way to drop links for those readers as well. Believe me, there a lot of moderate people out there and a few on the left as well who would breathe a sigh of relief if what has traditionally been called feminism died. I left the link for them. But I also left the comment I did with Cynthia’s link because it fed Maha’s (and her regular audience’s) paranoia, wasted her time, and likely raised her blood pressure. Why would I want to do that?
I would want to do that because it impacts the effectiveness of her product. She’s one voice in the noise machine, but Mahablog is semi-popular with the regular readership of true believers. So her voice has been amplified. If I can stir up paranoia in her or any of the members of her audience, I can directly impact their ability to capture more audience. You can’t capture audience when you go emotional, when you’re ire is so raised that readers can see the spittle lining the back of their computer screen. It also forces errors, like being more boneheadedly arrogant and snarky with your tone, thus alienating more audience share. The people on the left who are concerned about the gender gap results of 2010 will tire of this tone very soon, especially if they think it might cause Obama to lose. That’s exactly what we want them thinking. We want them coming down hard on that kind of alienating arrogance so we can wash it from the noise machine. We want them developing a tone of persuasion, backing it up with real offerings of what women need more of it, like more professional opportunity, equal justice, and equal pay, and of course, PARITY! We want them to take us seriously in more than reproductive issues, and part of that is addressing it with different strategies, thus the art of trolling for women.
There is a flip side to trolling in any of the ways I’ve described above. You have to be ready for it. This is not something you want to jump into lightly. You need to develop a plan. How will you troll? Not everybody can do what I do. I’m a trained researcher with 20 years of internet experience, and even more political experience, though mostly as an observer/volunteer for campaigns. If you don’t have this experience to back you up, start simple. Join Firedoglake or Daily Kos and start writing about the issues that matter to you that you think you can sell to that audience. Or start leaving subtly opposing comments to some of their big-name writers. Do it to change the tone.
As to the purposes, keep the opposite in mind for yourself. If you’re an overly emotional knee-jerk kind of person, this is definitely not the activity for you. Go join a campaign or start a blog if you want to help. But if you can maintain a stone-cold solid facade of reasonableness in the face of overt hostility, if you can take criticism without internalizing it, then you might consider trolling for women, or for whatever YOU want. I troll for women because I want to break the stranglehold of traditional left feminism and all its stalling ways and I want more women in office, I don’t care where they come from. Left-identified feminists DO care where they come from and they only want a limited number of “their kind” of women, ergo they are the barrier that I must break because they’re clogging up the pipeline. Thus I troll for women.
If you’re a true believer on either side, this might not be the strategy for you either. The purpose of trolling in politics is just what Sunstein said: group polarization. You want to encourage infighting and ineffectiveness. Because you must do this without outing yourself, true believers find it very difficult to pull off. They tend to get sucked in and forget where they are and what they’re doing. And once outed, you are likely to get banned. I got banned at Mahablog today, but I’d left a dozen comments there over the last six months using various accounts and IPs, so she can’t truly ban me, not unless she finds out all of my identities and bans all my IPs*. Considering I have access points all over my city, that’s unlikely. Which is another thing: the more access you have, the better off you’ll be surviving any forced errors you might make, and you will make them. But you learn from each one. (*By the way, she’ll get a pingback from me linking her and if she reads this, she’ll see that she can’t really ban me and will likely waste even more time trying to figure out which comments I left and hunting down IPs. Chances are she’ll ban a few people, thus losing more audience and I win. If she reads this comment, she’ll be in a pickle for what to do, and I’ll have stalled her momentarily, thus a temporary win. If she writes about this for her blog, I win again.)
As you can see, it can be quite an effective technique. It may be dishonest and devious, but it’s something I can do to affect change on the limited wages I earn. Without it and without this blog that a handful of people read each week, I only have my vote. That’s not enough for me. I have a voice and I have good ideas and I also have a vision for how we get more women in office before I die. We’ve been stalled out at around 17% since I came of age and I am 41 years old. I am not waiting anymore. Everything else we need will come with more women: equal pay, equal justice, more professional opportunity, and yes, more judgment-free access to BC. I will do whatever it takes short of violence to make it happen. I hope I’m not the only one willing to do so.
Filed under: 2012 Elections, Politics

And here I thought myiq was the title holder in number of times banned.
Ironically, my non-clown sockpuppets have only been banned twice. It must be the greasepaint.
your reputation preceeds you.
Oh, I’m gifted with it, VM. I’m so good, I ban myself at some places. Riverdaughter’s Conflatulence, for example.
I got banned by RD
That just makes you elite.
What happened to all that warm, fuzzy “myiq is always welcome back here” stuff?
That was pre-OWS.
I think her post today on welfare is actually pretty damned good, by the way.
Just read it since you mentioned it, and yes, it is pretty damn good. It also opens her up to charges from Violet and others that she’s a ratfucker, and I will laugh my ass if that happens. I will laugh because I said the exact same thing she said two years ago on her blog in a comment, only I backed it up with my personal experience of having been on welfare for a few years when my daughter was young, and she barked me off her blog, calling me a ratfucker. I never commented again. I don’t maintain friendships with assholes. What goes around comes around, indeed, in reference to the last line of her most recent post.
Think both Romney and Obama suffer from too much elitism, not enough empathy. That’ll be the contest, especially in this economy. And their spouses will not be spared the analysis.
Easier to talk about welfare reform in a strong economy. We’ve lost 10 million net jobs since the financial crises in 2008. The Fed’s pumped a lot of money to the supply side, but the problem is still weak aggregate demand. Without demand, businesses won’t be hiring.
I rarely get banned because I tend to leave in a sulk before anyone gets around to banning me.
Well, I haven’t tried commenting at Sky Dancing since I sent them a link to the “Official Drop Tables”, so I might have gotten myself banned for suggesting Zimmerman was entitled to due process. I’ll have to check in in a few days
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My first and only comment there went straight to the crapper.
That’s the only blog that pre-banned me.
Heh. I also made the mistake of citing a Legal Insurrection post. Apparently the fact that the source was “a right-wing blog” (to quote dakinikat) made it somehow taboo. I was chastised, but not expelled. That was before I sent the link to the drop tables.
I do find the level of mutual animosity among the ex-Conflucians totally astounding.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
And it may have only been the tip of the iceberg. The amazing thing in retrospect may be that so many with such disparate views hung around the same room together for as long as they did. Think the lesson there might be loose moderation, which is rare these days.
I got banned once, essentially trolling for a woman, and trying to set up an objective review of the facts such as what was done here for Trayvon. It was an infamous case and people’s heads exploded in that attempt. Especially one poster who was friends with the moderator and didn’t like getting nailed with her own arguments.
Casey Anthony?
Should be – for Trayvon “and Zimmerman”,,,
Susan Polk….my husband’s family knew her family.
I should add they knew she was guilty but they also knew what the husband put her through.
One thing I discovered is that if you create a new identity to infiltrate a Koolaid site you don’t have to worry about laying it on too thick.
Trying to be a rational Obama supporter is a dead giveaway.
Trying to be rational in any way is a dead giveaway to a cult.
I have tried to blend with a site in attempt to pick brains on another subject. And yes, it was a dead giveaway. Couldn’t keep up the crazy as effectively.
OT, but ouch, this pic is great: https://twitter.com/#!/LiliButterfly/status/191866021236314112/photo/1
I just saw that. Priceless.
It must be Boosh’s fault.
Would that be Boosh I, II, or III?
It would seem “Pricey” might be the appropriate adjective for that
Wow. You are dedicated and stuff. I don’t even have any sockpuppets.
I do occasionally comment on an article with some random name (or just anonymous), but I’m not a regular on any blogs except here and Hillaryis44.
I think it’s ’cause I’m lazy.
Lazy??? I think you are probably the most well informed person – evah. you must spend an amazing amount of time searching, learning and sharing. thanks for that.
I have nightmares where I’m being chased by angry sockpuppets.
Just don’t name one of them Chucky. That never ends well.
I had those nightmares for most of my life. the redhaired clown finally left me alone after my divorce. Not named Chucky – I don’t think. I never asked, tho.
I tried a sockpuppet ONCE and got caught by ISP info. Never again
Rookie mistake
Never again? Well now you just know what to avoid. Srsly, rethink it, because I’m about to put together a group of lady trolls to really take this to the next level. I had you in mind as a potential candidate.
That’s fine, I’ll just use my real name as I’m not quick enough to keep up with all my personalities
Hey, what’s up with AmyS ? All that effort to take on HBO and BM’s sexism, she’s on FB today discussing a new show on that channel. Wasn’t she calling for people to boycott? No biggie, I haven’t had the channel for years. Just seemed like a mixed message especially after HBO told her “you don’t like the channel, don’t watch it”.
I saw that and noted it, too. I have no idea what’s up with that.
PS: Never troll where your friends are. I never troll puma or former PUMA sites, irregardless of whether they have returned to the borg. Waste of time, really, and too risky. I doubt many of them are voting for Obama, anyway. Trolling is for everywhere else.
Cute post, Lola! I don’t deliberately troll for women, but I certainly have been accused of it. Some people seem to believe that simply making a comment or expressing an opinion is brainwashing and that they’re going to get right wing cooties like some kind of contagious disease if they even read something “off message.” Off message is anything not filled with praise for Obama or anything that challenges the current memes.
It’s actually kind of distrubing that so many people believe that reality is simply a matter of repeating talking points over and over again. If one is truly thinking for themselves, then there should be no fear of hearing other ideas. Most of us have a rational brain to use for sorting things out, at least that’s what I used to believe before 2008.
Not long ago I was accused of trying to “seduce” women into choosing solidarity with each other over Dem party values. LOL, why yes, I guess so, guilty as charged! The irony is that some people really believed that women must make a choice, loyalty to women or loyalty to the Party, as if the two are in conflict. This is a “war on women,” and you have to choose sides, but apparently “women” is not one of the sides you get to choose. I actually gave myself a headache trying to sort that out.
Yeah, when trolling, you don’t want to think too hard about the actual conversation. You’re not there to engage or to let them effect you. You’re there to effect them. You have to develop a wall of will with regard to what others are saying.
I was often accused of trolling for Hillary which was only my naive attempts to debate facts.
Silly me, thought there were reasonable posters out there who were new to the political boards and were unaware that the right wing memes about the Clintons were false. The more facts and links that were thrown at them the more hostile they became. It was clear that these new Dems didn’t care about facts only Obama love.
Now years later and there are Reps all over the place realizing that the Clintons weren’t all those horrible things. While many of those new Dems still believe.
Back then I was a denizen of Buffoon Juice. I saw so many people claiming Hillary implied Obama was a Muslim in her 60 Minutes interview (“Not as far as I know.”) that I kept a link to the MM post debunking it in by bookmarks.
It didn’t help.
I had spent years on a few boards with Dems and Reps debating the Clintons and Bush Admins. We were throwing sharp elbows on unmoderated boards…it was fun and no one got out of line. So I had all these great articles and facts that would specifically debunk various arguments.
Once Obama ran. All these articles became harder, if not impossible to find. Google searches required remembering a unique word in the article to bring up the article. When they had been at the top of the searches for years.
I should have kept a link file but it had never been necessary previously. That’s when it became clear something bigger was happening.
It was my searches on facts to go after Obama’s record that I ran across what would become PUMA sites. Of course, once again facts didn’t matter when debating him either.
I discovered years ago that negative stories about Obama have a tendency to disappear or fade from the intertoobz.
Google is especially bad about making it hard to find stuff.
Example: If you do a search for one of his most famous gaffes, the “57 states”, you know what pops up? A lot of articles talking about how the crazy lunatics said it was all about the fact that there are 57 Islamic states, and it proves he is a Mooooslim! Top one is a Snopes story “debunking” that Obama is a muslim.
Look, I visit a lot of conservatives blogs and websites. No mainstream R blog pushed that 57 Islamic states crap – only about 2 weird birther sites did. Everyone else on the R side, the VAST majority, were just laughing their asses off at Mr. Intelligent being stupid.
But this is the kind of thing Google does on Obama’s behalf. If it’s a lesser known story, they disappear it. If it’s too well-known to do that, then they subtly shade the hits to draw attention to “OMG those insane haters!” instead of the gaffe itself.
Yup, Google has definitely modified their algorithms, research is not the same. Other important aspects haven’t changed. They like piracy, they hate privacy, they preach the “free” web to drive their online business model and ad monopoly. They play both sides of the political aisle.
Google is also the largest distributor of child porn in the world. Their search engine and YouTube have made proliferation of child porn go through the roof. They are very, very bad guys, and they are ALL guys at the top.
HONK HONK HONK HONK!!! That’s it in a nutshell. I am freaking tired of people informing me that if my loyalties do not lie where THEY say they should lie, then I’m a RW nutjob/crazy liberal/on the side of terrorists/on the side of warmongers/hate the poor/want to bankrupt us/want to live in Somalia/want to live in communist Russia
And yes, I have been accused of all of the above at various times. Not because I’m flaky, but because I have pointed out practical truths when I see ‘em, in a reasonably rational manner.
The latest is that I’m somehow anti-woman, because I object to half the women in the country being abused and called not real women at all.
LOL, anybody watch Lilyhammer? I was once accused of being a liberal nutjob/right wingnut who wanted to turn America into Norway. Norway? WTH?
Anyway, I finally watched Lilyhammer and it gave me a good laugh. This mafia guy goes into the witness protection program in Norway and starts bumping into bureaucracy, socialism, and political correctness. It was funny.
Slightly OT, but you mentioned turning us into Norway. One of the many areas where I piss people off is that I point out that leftists soooo love to point at European healthcare, european this, european that as the model to follow. And the right loves to sneer at anything European.
But when I say something like “Sweden, in addition to govt healthcare, also has strict loser pays laws to protect their doctors and prevent lots of ass-covering tests. Basically if the doc followed the treatment/coverage guidelines set out by the govt, he can’t get sued.” Their heads explode.
Or I point out that Switzerland has some of the most liberal gun laws in the world, and the govt even sponsors/subsidizes shooting ranges, and encourages its young people to participate in gun training. Or I point out that they also have a total school choice system with vouchers, wherein parents can send kids to any school they choose, including parochial schools, and the country has not turned into a religious dictatorship with imbecilically (I just made up that word) undereducated children.
I haven’t researched Norway, but I’d bet I could find both some “leftist” and some “rightist” policies that are working just fine.
There are both “right” and “left” things that would be helpful here as well, but we’re too invested in knee-jerk tribalism, rather than practical governing, to do that dirty nasty triangulating thing.
I didn’t know that about Switzerland’s school choice. My contention with school choice is the same — give all kids vouchers in the same amount and let them choose what school they want to go to. That didn’t ring well with some of my liberal friends. Now I can say “Look, they do that in Switzerland.”
Fembots, they transitioned to that system a long time ago, they are extremely happy with it, and they made a leftist argument for it:
How is it “egalitarian” that only the wealthy get to choose their child’s school?
It is the refusal of the american left to consider things like that that makes me doubt their supposed “liberalism”, and tag them as more authoritarian than they let on. Because they seem incapable of advancing any program that is good for people without couching it in terms of total govt control They always make “give me control” the condition for govt doing good. Want money to help the poor, or for schools, or whatever? The price of that is that WE will set lots of rules, create lots of bureaucracies, and micromanage your lives for you.
I WANT govt to serve the function of helping people. But I’m not going to be blackmailed into handing over my life to them to get that help.
I retweeted what yttik said
I got thrown off a lot of the Obot blogs back in 2008. I think Mahahahaha was one of them. I said something sweet like “Who the fuck made you boss? Thought policing only works with a certain psychological profile of dipshit.” I am much better behaved now and especially here.
HONK!!!
OT: Oh my aching head! Rd is on about a field guide to economics for OWS written by…wait for it…a Princeton econ professor, and his wife. Oh, and Matt Tiabbi. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLLOLOOL.
Field guide to OWS economics: Get a clue. Smashing up Starbucks and other local businesses is not helpful to the economy.
Did RD actually genuflect when Princeton was mentioned? Or merely lower her eyes and curtsy respectfully?
“Field guide to OWS economics..”
Don’t they live in tents on the street?
How can a group with no goals, no ideology and no leaders put together a guide?
Did the book get up twinkles from the GA?
I know, right? It’s like they’re not even thinking enough to put it together. Schools like Princeton are part of the problem as they see it. And we just spent a week excoriating Ann Romney for helping her mate. Yet here’s an I-guarantee-six-figure-income professor, with the help of his mate, writing a book for the 99% on econ matters. There are so many routes to hypocrisy sewn up in this story, I don’t know which one to take.
This is a comment from a guy on Gay Patriot blog, talking about why he left the Dem Party.
Absolutely. Progress for progress sake and progress is whatever I define it to be, but mostly I define it as being able to stand above you with my fists drawn up. Authoritarian wankers. I hate every last one of them. They have gotten into dangerous territory when people like me feel that just speaking up is not enough, and start trying to infiltrate their dens of unreason.
It’s Krugman, his wife, some usual suspect friends, and a couple of libertarians. Guess he had to have his own little red book. Like everything else, there’s a lot of BS in economics, especially at the margins on the left and the right, and politicians make it worse. Krugman makes more sense than most on the left imo, when he’s being the nerd and not the campus political protester. I do think Wall Street has a serious sickness, and it’s not as much about the facile debates on inequality or fairness, though those things are important. There is a more urgent cancer in the system of financial trading on Wall Street that remains dangerously toxic for the whole economy. I don’t think the OWS kids or unions will change that. I also think Obama and Romney have both been entirely glib about the problem. I don’t like the title of the book, but I’ll probably take a look.
I certainly agree with your assessment of the situation, but I’m skeptical that a Princeton professor can diagnose and successfully treat the cancer. The professor is not analogous to a doctor; he’s analogous to (and I love the irony here) a “free radical” which is what starts and contributes to the growth of the cancer. Wall Street is littered with Princeton, Harvard, and Yale grads, and that collective beehive mindset is a BIG part of the problem. I don’t see how the prof escapes being subject to the same noise machine. That’s always been my criticism of Krugman and those who listen to him with reverence.
Yes maybe. But if Wall Street were run exclusively by state university graduates with today’s rules, we’d probably have the same problem. It’s not really about politics or noise machines on Wall Street. It’s purely about making money, and that’s fine in principle. But over the past three decades, Wall Street has technically and culturally turned into a vast Las Vegas casino, nothing more nothing less, just to the nth degree which is what imperils us all — high frequency trading in ridiculously layered and pyramidy third and fourth derivative products with multiple counterparties that nobody is interested in or capable of keeping track of. Because quite literally they are gambling with money from our future, with guarantees and bailouts from the Fed/Treasury which essentially comes out of the pockets of taxpayers and consumers and their livelihoods and standards of living for generations to come — way way bigger amounts and risks than the federal government’s public debt.
Cunt, ho, “blonde Palin”, wish you were dead, bitch. Ahhh, the “pro-woman” left.
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/16/left-celebrates-ann-romneys-birthday-with-death-wish-and-vile-slurs/
Obama’s new civility team. How disgusting.
WTF did WordPress just do up above???
It’s not you. I fucked it up with my big diagram. Sorry!
Oh that’s why when I hit the reply under the chart I thought I was responding to you and it went to WMCB ? Same sentiment though.
You could repost it below?
I fixed it. Removed my graphic and we’re all good agian.
It’s Ann Romney’s bday today. Mitt tweeted this (cute pic)
Of course the proglodytes are also sending their typical bday greetings:
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/16/left-celebrates-ann-romneys-birthday-with-death-wish-and-vile-slurs/
I think some people are just addicted to hatred. They literally get high being nasty to somebody because it’s the political thing to do. I mean, some morons don’t even realize the Titanic is a true story and that she sunk, but they think they know so much about Ann Romney that they’re qualified to call her names and make threats.
Woman hating just plays into the whole thing. You know how women wither crops, cause hurricanes, and basically ruin the world. IBSP, now I guess I Blame Ann Romney. What’s really stupid, you wouldn’t treat a serial killer on death row this way. We have laws against cruel and unsual punishment. Nobody is speaking out about somebody like Charles Manson, but apparently these various women are so evil, it’s okay to say anything you want about them.
They don’t even realize that they are letting themselves be shackle and led around by their own hate.
I remember reading about how European authorities would sanction pogroms in Jewish ghettos to let the citizens blow off steam basically.
True story – driving to work behind a SUV with Obama 2012 and “I heart haters” bumper stickers. Person does one of those left turns without a signal in a road with major construction, nearly hits oncoming car, which swerves, and makes me swerve to avoid hitting them . I’m disabled and slow to boot. So I honked and showed them my disability car permit. I got the biggest flip of the bird with “f**k b***h” yelled at me. Guess I was one of those haters they felt they could ridicule.
backtrack and bunch must be getting nervous. One of his chief stooges calls for maher to be thrown under the bus
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/04/16/Stephanopolous-Obama-Dump-Maher
Slowly waking up to it. You can see it start to occur.
I’m starting to see signs in the msm that they may be coming around. This is baby steps, but it’s all good. We can’t remove Obama without their help.
Exactly. Believe me, trolling is related. Comments aren’t just left. They’re read by an audience, but also an analyst, at least at newspapers.
there is NO ROOM UNDER MY BUS for maher. Tell him to find another one.
There’s room. Right back there by the tailpipe that he can suck on.
ZOMG. Why have I never seen this pic before? LOL.
http://i.imgur.com/qyrr5.jpg
Definitely worth $50,000
So let me pimp my favorite girl power charity (and because my daughter’s a volunteer skating teacher)
http://www.charitybuzz.com/auctions/fsh/catalog_items
ROFL! That is a great picture.
Classic.
This is the dadgum sweetest video that Mitt and the kids put out for Ann’s birthday. It’s mostly about Ann, and it’s really good. Yeah, I know it’s politically calculated, but the inserted voices from the old home videos are real, and the love is obvious.
Mitt’s voice saying “sweet baby…” over his child at 1:20 does more to humanize him than anything I’ve yet seen or heard.
Man, I’m almost an expert on audience, but I still have so much to learn. Yesterday I posted a throw-away snark-response article on P&L just for kicks. Took me all of three minutes to put together, and I throw it up expecting nothing. But apparently the title (Men Shouldn’t Be Allowed to Vote) was so provocative, it’s getting mad hits. Not a lot of comments, but mad, mad hits. http://peacocksandlilies.com/2012/04/15/men-shouldnt-be-allowed-to-vote/
I don’t get it.
Ha! Well, I’m pretty sure they should never be allowed to handle money. I mean, men gave us 700 dollar toilet seats and a 14 trillion dollar nat’l debt.
They probably wanted to see if you really believed it. Your snark was great so it was clear where you were headed once they opened the post.
this article will drive the obots nuts
http://news.investors.com/article/607479/201204130818/obama-pretends-to-be-president-while-campaigning.htm?ven=rss
That is a pretty good article. The problem I have with it is it asks where is the nice guy from 2008. There never was a nice Obama. He has always been an asshole.
this is the article I sent to obot friends of mine last week. they agreed with the article. I didn’t ask them what they thought made him “good” when he was running before. i won’t – don’t want to push it in their faces again.
http://usamericanfreedom.com/2012/04/16/digging-deeper-into-the-scytl-2012-vote-count-controversy/#more-10078
interesting article on the voting machines that will be used at many places for the 2012 election
I am laughing my ass off at the hints in the press that Hillary is gonna ride to the rescue!! I posted this on His44:
that is great
Brilliant!
LOL! Where’d you get it from?
Oh! I see. YOU posted it. LOL. Good one!
Yeah, it’s mine.
Come on. That’s front page-worthy. Make it your inaugural post. Post it as an open thread! Do it! Do it! Do it!
I agree! Post it! Post it!
I don’t even know HOW to post it.
Myiq probably sent you an invite a while ago – it might be in your inbox with the subject “__, Myiq2xu has invited you to use WordPress.com” and the sender is WordPress.
If you need a new invite I can try sending you one but I just need to check – do you want to use the email addy you use on comments? (You can email me with the one you have a wordpress acct with – my email is my handle and my provider is gmail)
Easy. If Myiq or votermom will create an account for you, one of them can copy and paste. I’d do it myself, but I don’t have privileges.
If you want to learn, I can train you via e-mail using screen shots or by phone with a walk-through. It’s easy.
@ votermom, yes – my email is the one on comments. Send me the info and I’ll see about posting it. I’d really like to flesh it out more if I’m going to do that, but we’ll see.
Just sent it. Do you see it?
LOL! Oh, wait, I forgot that I had changed to a fake email last week when myiq suggested it for people who kept getting kicked off. I jsut put the REAL email in.
No problemo. Resent it to your real email.
OK, I got it. Will work on the post.
i stole it and reposted it giving you credit.
WHEN WILL YOU PLEASE FP???????
YOU ARE A GREAT WRITER
OKAY! . Do what Lola says. Post it.
Ok, how do you respond to this ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/opinion/sunday/having-an-abortion-when-no-one-called-me-a-slut.html?_r=2&hp
Me: I refused to leave the hospital after my third born til they tied my tubes. I knew I was done at 34.
The author waited 12 years. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
So, DeniseVB, you’ve never made a mistake? I certainly have.
Sure did JeanLouise, would you like to meet her ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/nyregion/female-bike-mechanics-on-the-rise-in-new-york-city.html?_r=3&src=tp&smid=fb-share
She’s the adorable child in the photo with my gbaby. Thank gawd she was pro-choice too
Not sure if you caught my drift, she was also my oops baby in 1980. I chose life, duh me, huh? But, according to my insurance and Catholic faith, nobody wanted me to “choose” permanent CONTRACEPTION at such a young age of 34. I was all about, ok, I’m done, not leaving, clip me. I brought insurance AND the church to their knees. Now about those mistakes I might have made?
I cancelled my subscription to Parents Magazine at 29. My doctor made me wait a year after my second child was born, but then he was perfectly fine with it, and my insurance company didn’t blink an eye. No church involved. Why a woman wouldn’t go that route if she knew she would abort any future pregnancies is beyond me. If you don’t want any more kids, make it so. It was one of the best if not the very best things I ever did for myself. Especially since I knew I could never abort a baby. My husband only had to worry from that day on that someone would leave one on our doorstep.
First day of Gallup general election tracking has Mitt 47%, Obama 45%. And that’s registered voters. Anyone want to bet that it’s even worse with likely voters? Who is more energized to GOTV this year?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/gaffetastic-obama-flunks-island-geography-at-summit-of-the-americas-leaders/
do not feel bad South America, backtrack thinks North America has 57 states. Geography is not his strong point
Give the man a break – he’s having trouble communicating with the Latin American leaders because, well, he doesn’t speak Latin.
Quod verum est.
Though the Brits would have buried him if he had said Malvinas instead of the Falklands.
I am listening to the GSA hearings, and the bastard is pleading the 5th, refusing to answer.
I’m sorry, but there needs to be some different mechanism when it comes to govt employees performing govt functions. This crap pissed me off under Bush, and it pisses me off now.
I know there are constitutional issues. But we need a fix for this crap. When you head a govt agency, you are NOT acting as an individual, you are acting as an arm of the government. Applying the 5th in those cases utterly prevents the People from holding their govt accountable, because a branch of our GOVT can refuse to answer questions.
Acting GSA chief issues new rules restricting travel by agency employees – @WashingtonPost
I guess better late then never
I think a government official who asserts the 5th should be immediately fired. That includes cops.
HONK!
Obama’s administration is filthy with the stonewalling:
Off topic but related
I am now a 45 year old gay man who 5 and a half years ago walked into a daycare center to pick up my grand niece I am not a nuturing person by nature but that little girls relief when she saw me was something I could not deny. I had been exposed to her for a couple of weeks as a relative and had every intention of returning to NYC. Picked up that little girl and she wrapped her tiny arms around me and I knew she was never going back. She is now finishing up her first year of kindergarten, she can read and the teachers adore her. Not one time has she been disciplined and her classmates parents often comment to me about how my little girl seems to bring out their kids best behaivior. I have done a lot of things in my life but I most proud of having( even if it turns out only to be a bit part in her life) been there for her.
I am not her father/mother but I made a financial choice to do something. I thought it would be a few weeks but once they get under your skin.
Toughest job I ever endured in my life but also the most rewarding. She is 5 and a half and I went outside to smoke a cigarette yesterday and she came out with me and I said baby doll it is too cold out here for you go back in. She responded that she would soon acclimmate. Really brat, acclimmate? I never talk down to her and she always asks me when she doesn’t understand what I have said.
Bigger though than her grasping SAT words is her tremendous capacity. She is my grand niece and our relationship was a gorgeous mistake. Her parents often do not even call for months at a time, but yet this little person has achieved by nature of her existence and innate person than I will ever do in my life. The parents she goes to school with always comment about how my baby girl is always kind and how it makes their kids react.
Best decision I ever made in my life was to assist in her life. So hard to be broke and those countless hours of being so afraid of SIDS and laying with my arm in her crib. Changing diapers. Fevers!
I think you become insane with a kid when you know hours before that she will be sick, I have fallen into the cliche of kissing her forehead because I thought she might be sick and finding it fine but the next morning she has a fever.
Once you love a child you never get to escape the fear you have for that child.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/16/mooch-to-hold-four-campaign-fundraisers-in-two-days-squeezes-in-official-event-so-taxpayers-foot-bill/
not only does backtrack campaign on our dime but so does meeeschele and she does not like us
O/T but re: feminism.
For those who don’t remember, Ainsley Hayes was the Republican who worked in President Bartlett’s White House on The West Wing. Here’s her thing about feminism:
And when administration frat boy Democrats called Ainsley Hayes a bitch, Sam Seaborn didn’t let it pass.
Sorry that was the wrong video. Here’s the right one:
Okay this is the last one I promise. Remember when Democrats and Republicans, men and women, discussed ideas, and both sides could be smart?
OK, I posted the thing.
good
If anyone is interested, a black republican woman, Talitha McEachin, has a post up asking some pointed questions to both black people and white people, and people are answering. She wants to have that “conversation on race” that everyone is so afraid to have. She plans to make it a series.
http://kiradavis.net/an-introductionthe-top-10-things-black-white-americans-want-to-know-about-one-another-but-are-afraid-to-ask/#comment-4059