Good thing religion is off limits


And so it begins:

Brian Schweitzer: Mitt Romney’s ‘Family Came From a Polygamy Commune in Mexico’

The Daily Beast contacted the office of Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer today to talk about whether his state would be in play in the 2012 presidential election. About a half hour later, the governor called back, and he had a lot to say. He didn’t think that Montana would be a swing state, but the Democrat did say that Mitt Romney could have issues nationally because his father was “born on a polygamy commune in Mexico.”

While discussing swing states, Schweitzer said Romney would have a “tall order to position Hispanics to vote for him,” and I replied that was mildly ironic since Mitt’s father was born in Mexico, giving the clan a nominal claim to being Hispanic. Schweitzer replied that it is “kinda ironic given that his family came from a polygamy commune in Mexico, but then he’d have to talk about his family coming from a polygamy commune in Mexico, given the gender discrepancy.” Women, he said, are “not great fans of polygamy, 86 percent were not great fans of polygamy. I am not alleging by any stretch that Romney is a polygamist and approves of [the] polygamy lifestyle, but his father was born into [a] polygamy commune in Mexico.”

Romney’s father, George—who served as governor of Michigan and was a member of the Nixon cabinet and also a presidential candidate—was born in Mexico in 1907 to a family of American Mormons who fled to Mexico when the United States government cracked down on the practice of polygamy. George Romney’s parents were in a monogamous marriage, but Mexico was the last bastion for the practice of plural marriage in the Church of Latter Day Saints. (The church has since expressly prohibited the practice.)

While the Obama campaign has ruled Romney’s faith off-limits, it was the subject of some attacks from evangelicals during the GOP primary.


Money quote:

In response to Governor Schweitzer’s comments, Obama campaign spokesperson Lis Smith said “Attacking a candidate’s religion is out of bounds, and our campaign will not engage in it, and we don’t think others should either.”


Let’s get this straight:

Mitt Romney is not a polygamist. The Mormon Church no longer practices polygamy and has not done so since 1890, which was 122 years ago. Mitt’s father, George Romney, did not practice polygamy, and neither did Mitt’s grandparents. While George Romney was born in 1907 on a Mormon commune in Mexico where some people did still practice polygamy, the Romney family has resided in the United States since 1912.

The Obama campaign says religion is off limits. So why did Governor Schweitzer mention “polygamy” or “polygamist” seven times in one interview? It wasn’t an accident.

As we saw in the 2008 primary, Barack Obama always tries to take the high road. For instance neither he nor anyone in his campaign ever publicly accused Bill or Hillary of racism. But while Obama takes the high road, his surrogates plow the low road.

But this is not 2008. Mitt Romney has shown a willingness to counter-punch and the race card no longer provides Obama with full immunity. And as far as polygamy is concerned Obama is hardly in a position to throw stones. Barack Obama Sr. was a polygamist – he already had a wife (and kids) when he married Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack Jr.’s mother.

Personally I don’t have a problem with polygamy between consenting adults. Different strokes for different folks. I just can’t imagine having multiple wives at the same time. One at a time was more than I could handle.

As for Mormonism, I know more about the history of the church than I do its beliefs. I really don’t care what their teachings and practices are. As far as I am concerned all religions (including atheism) are equally silly valid. All the Mormons I have known (less than 100, including some relatives and in-laws) are/were good people. I can’t vouch for the nearly 15 million Mormons I haven’t met.


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56 Responses

  1. Have they forgotten that their guy comes from a line of polygamists as well? I guess it’s OK if you’re a Democrat.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-and-romney-both-come-from-a-ancestry-of-polygamy/2012/04/12/gIQA3TI8CT_story.html

  2. Just waiting for the Twitter war to erupt on this one. Lol on the surrogates plowing the low road. With Stone Age implements.

  3. They are testing this out. When jokes about Obama’s father kick in they will back off if they are smart. Schweitzer must have drawn the short straw.

    • Can’t wait! :lol:

    • Never thought Obama’s crack campaign crew was all that bright to begin with, they just looked that way because the media buried their mistakes. Without that cover, it’s laughabable to see how predictable they are…dirty, sloppy and predictable.

  4. but, but, but Obama Sr. himself was a polygamist! Did making a dog’s breakfast of the Seamus on the roof story teach obama’s idiots NOTHING?!?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381444/Barack-Obamas-father-serial-womaniser-warned-stop-playboy-ways.html

    Mr. Obama was married to at least 2 women at the same time. His own father.

  5. Boy, you have to ask who put that together and disseminated it to the Montana Gov. What an obvious setup. Maybe some of those evangelicals will buy it but I doubt it. When talking about extended family members Obama surrogates had better be very careful. Obama’s got a load of nefarious relatives the latest being the drunk driving Uncle who is illegal, the Aunt who is illegal and on and on. I keep dreaming about his damn father……..

  6. What cracked me up was the insistance by the Governor that women today would find whatever Romney’s dead father did 90 years ago to be offensive, and it could cost him voted. He forgets that the left has spent the last 25 years selling sex-positive feminism, where polyamory is the ideal. So I’m guessing they won’t bat an mascarar’ed eye because it’s either too old, or they are fans of Sisters Wives/Strange Sex on TLC.

    • I love it when men mansplain what women think.

    • There are freaks of all stripes on all sides but please tell me what well-known spokesperson for ” the left” has promoted polyamory. I’ve never come across anyone who has done that other than the creeps in the FLDS and a few other small religious cults. Frankly, I don’t think any of them would vote for a Democrat.

      • I get that you’re the resident apologist for the left here, but I can’t even believe you would ask this question with a straight face. Sex-positive feminism and all the cans of worms it opened up is in no way identified with the right. It’s a left-feminist thing and has been from its inception. Unless you’re going to argue that we need to sever traditional feminism from the left, in which I’m going to say you are crazy.

  7. ABC has picture of Zimmerman’s bleeding head. http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-case-exclusive-photo-shows-bloodied-back/story?id=16177849#.T5F1edWib9Z
    The ad to the lead in is of a prize fight and is unfortunately hilarious.

  8. jtLOL: I’m getting credit/blame for noticing what Obama wrote in his book. That tells you something about the people who were supposed to vet him.

    • I think he was vetted and was just the sort of empty suit and lightweight they wanted. The followers not so much.

  9. jtLOL: It’s weird how @JoyVBehar thought presidential candidates and dogs were an issue, and now she doesn’t. Did something happen?

  10. Glenn mentioned above that “maybe some of the evangelicals will buy it.” but in truth they don’t.

    We already know they don’t. Because Romney won the primary. And from what I saw, while there might be a teeny tiny minority who have a problem with his religion, most of the “Not Romney” vote was because he was too squishy, not conservative enough, and did Romneycare. VERY few evangelicals had a Mormon issue.

    And I think that surprised the Dems. Because they have a caricature in their heads of bigoted R Christians, and it never seems to dawn on them that the construct in their head doesn’t really exist in large numbers in real life. Oops, guess we’ll have to go bigot for ourselves.

    So I disagree that this is aimed at evangelicals. No, this is aimed at swing voters and non-obot liberals who are not keen on Obama and might stay home.They want to scare them with “Look at the creepy weird religion dude! You can’t let him win! Vote Obama”

    IOW, for all their public statements about the (assumed) bigotry of evangelicals, what they are doing here is ginning up the bigotry that they are quite certain exists on their own side.

    And this isn’t the first instance. It is not the evangelicals doing this. It is the Left. Because they are Big Fat Bigots.

  11. ROFL! Just saw an article on “Who let the dogs out”
    Turns out it is all Newt’s fault- He brought up Romney’s dog first. WAAAHHH MOMMY! Newt did it FIIIRRSST!
    LOLOLOL

    • LOL! Nooooooot! I must admit, I don’t want Newt as president, but I enjoy having him around. He’s quirky. You never know if he is going to say something stupid or remarkably perspicacious and interesting.

      He knows a lot of history, so you get everything from dreams of moon colonies to dissertations on unknown facts about old presidents to just general needling of the status quo.

      Newt would be good at a political talk show, I think. A low key one, like Charlie Rose – where he could mentally meander and ADD to his heart’s content.

      • Good point about the talk show. I think he would be good at that sort of thing.

        • Yep. He’s a very smart and intellectually curious guy, with a brain full of trivia and history. I think that’s one reason why Bill Clinton always liked him despite their budget battles.

          So long as you keep him away from power, Newt is interesting. I’m serious about the talk show – I wish someone would offer him one.

      • I want him to make it to the convention. That should be interesting.

  12. his surrogates plow the low road.True.but he gives them the narative. :(

  13. Oh, WOW. I didn’t know this, but Andrew Breitbart was working on a feature film about OWS before he died. It’s going to be finsihed released, in memory of him. Citizens United is funding it, so yeah, they are assholes, but they are effective assholes with lots of money.

    Spring 2012: Occupy Unmasked. This is going to put a damper on the whole Spring uprising thing, and make a lot of Dems and media people look pretty bad:

    http://www.occupyunmasked.com/

  14. Anybody else get the OFA email offering a chance to “win” a trip to Los Angeles to meet teh fraud and clooney? Airfare and accommodations included!
    My first thought? They saved so much money using AF1 as the campaign bus they can afford it.

  15. shame it is not tinfoil tuesday because I find this worriesome

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304331204577354331959335276.html

    drones over the country

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