Hillary caves

Posted on October 15, 2012 by Lola-at-Large

Via Wyntre:

Breaking.

HRC throws herself under the bus.

Lima, Peru (CNN) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the buck stops with her when it comes to who is to blame for security ahead of a deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya.

“I take responsibility” for what happened on September 11, Clinton said in an interview with CNN’s Elise Labott soon after arriving in Lima, Peru for a visit. The interview, one of a series given to U.S. television networks Monday night, were the first she has given about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

Clinton insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions, Clinton said.

“I want to avoid some kind of political gotcha,” she added, noting that it is close to the election.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html

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  1. Lola-at-Large, on October 15, 2012 at 5:27 pm said:

    I saved the other post for tomorrow. Y’all can talk about Hillary here.

  2. wyntre, on October 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm said:

    Unf**kingbelievable, isn’t it?

    !$#*!#@!

  3. angienc, on October 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm said:

    I’ve got no problem with this — as Sec. of State she is directly responsible for security.

    This, however, doesn’t explain the “it was a spontaneous protest because of the video that turned violent” lie that Susan Rice, Jay Carney & Obama shilled for 2 weeks.

    • indigogrrl1, on October 15, 2012 at 5:36 pm said:

      this.

    • wyntre, on October 15, 2012 at 5:36 pm said:

      Well, that story on top of the AP report the POS is readying a strike against Libya is alarming, IMHO.

      The Associated Press reports:

      Administration officials say the White House has put special operations strike forces on standby and moved drones into the skies above Africa, ready to hit militant targets from Libya to Mali, if U.S. investigators can find the al-Qaida-linked group responsible for the death of the U.S. ambassador in Libya.

      But the officials say the administration also is weighing whether the short-term payoff of being able to claim retribution against al-Qaida is worth the risk that such strikes would be ineffective and rile governments in the region.

      Details were provided by three current and one former administration official, as well as an analyst who was approached by the White House for help. All four spoke only on condition of anonymity.

    • myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm said:

      Yeah, I don’t see how she could not take responsibility for her own department. Mistakes get made and when they do you should own up to them.

      That’s not necessarily fatal to Hillary’s career.

      The cover-up is a whole ‘nother thang.

      • indigogrrl1, on October 15, 2012 at 5:42 pm said:

        I agree with this. I am not the least surprised.

      • angienc, on October 15, 2012 at 5:50 pm said:

        Hmm,she’s taking responsibility for her own department while Biden & Obama are shoving blame all over the place — the video, State, Intelligence, Romney . . .
        Quite a contrast if you ask me.

      • Mary, on October 16, 2012 at 4:35 am said:

        Agree completely. And she looks strong and decent in doing so.

        WH, on the other hand, still looks manipulative and sneaky.

    • carol haka, on October 15, 2012 at 5:41 pm said:

      …. and Hillary. This is bs. We know the why. We neede to know who decided to lie about the why! This just makes it worse! :evil:

    • djmm, on October 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm said:

      Good point.

      djmm

  4. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 5:31 pm said:

    This will not have the desired effect . It is absolutely preposterous that the Potus and Vp are “not involved” in security decisions when it was his policy of normalization that caused the continued denial of .additional security . This is going to bite her in the butt

    • cj, on October 15, 2012 at 5:33 pm said:

      Or that the State Department wasn’t in direct communication with the WH while this was going down.

      If she’s taking full responsibility for the deaths of 4 Americans, then she really has to resign.

    • Lulu, on October 15, 2012 at 5:37 pm said:

      As I said on the last thread when is she quitting? When is she testifying for Issa? The SOS doesn’t just get to say “Oh my bad” and keep on skipping along after four brutal murders. When is Bill going to go back to his office and stop shilling for Obama? I don’t think they understand this is the end of the Democratic Party. It is so rotten it needs to cease to exist. The last two Democrats are finished.

    • carol haka, on October 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm said:

      Bingo!

  5. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm said:
  6. Lola-at-Large, on October 15, 2012 at 5:34 pm said:

    At least we know where she stands now. All that wish-casting that she’s never been fully with Team Obama has now been revealed for utter fantasy. I was a fantasizer myself for a long time, just in case anyone is inclined to think that’s a dig. It’s not.

  7. Constance, on October 15, 2012 at 5:36 pm said:

    BUT is she responsible for the BS story about a spontaneous demonstration and also for the Feds showing up at the house of the nut job who made the movie in question and arresting him, then making sure his name and address are made public. No she is not.

    Team Obama made this a political issue when they started lying. Don’t cry to me Dems.

  8. yttik, on October 15, 2012 at 5:36 pm said:

    I think it would be pretty cool if Romney was able to say something like, Obama isn’t worthy of this woman.

    And also how the President is not involved in security decisions.

  9. Simofish, on October 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm said:

    It’s official – Hillary is dead to me

  10. Constance, on October 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm said:

    Also Hillary makes Obama look pathetic when she stands up and says “the buck stops here” and he is still weaseling around claiming he isn’t responsible.

  11. DandyTiger, on October 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm said:

    I would be fine if she just said she’s in charge of the state department and she takes full responsibility. That’s the right thing to say. If she just said that, it would be fine and some would say yes, and others would say, well, you’re still not the boss, the buck still stops at the boss. But she went one step further. She said the P and VP are not involved in (state dept) security decisions. First, that kind of makes them out to be fools. But it’s also an effort to help them. That, I don’t like.

    Here’s the thing then. If she’s taking full responsibility for such an epic failure that cost lives and damaged our country, then she should resign immediately. Anything short of resigning immediately will be irresponsible and corrupt.

  12. fernschild, on October 15, 2012 at 5:47 pm said:

    Doesn’t this negate any benefit from Bill campaigning for Obama? It seems to me that the biggest loser here is still the president.

  13. angienc, on October 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm said:

    Actor Jake Gyllenhaal endorsed Romney via Twitter & now Twitter is broken.

    Text of Jake’s tweet:

    As A Democrat, I’ll say it now, I endorse Mitt Romney For President Of The United States #MyVoteIsMade

  14. DandyTiger, on October 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm said:

    Jake Gyllenhaal took the brave stance (in hollywood) of endorsing Romney.

  15. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 5:51 pm said:
  16. HELENK, on October 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm said:

    i just went to iowa hawk twitter and got a message
    twitter is over run.
    whole lot of talking going on

  17. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm said:

    I think twitter blew up . Did Hillary do that too?

  18. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm said:
  19. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm said:
  20. DandyTiger, on October 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm said:
  21. DandyTiger, on October 15, 2012 at 6:01 pm said:

    Oh jeebus:

  22. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 6:07 pm said:
  23. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm said:

    Hot Air:

    Fearless prediction: With Hillary having now formally accepted blame, President Above The Fray will magnanimously volunteer at tomorrow night’s debate that, no no, it is with him that the buck ultimately stops. The White House has been holding off on doing that because they’re desperate to frame this as an internal problem at State. Now that Clinton’s gone and done that, Obama can pose as a stand-up guy and loyal boss by symbolically accepting responsibility on behalf of the people who are really at fault.

    • DandyTiger, on October 15, 2012 at 6:22 pm said:

      Sad but true.

    • lyn5, on October 15, 2012 at 6:32 pm said:

      Yeah, it’s kind of like when he gave the delegates of Florida and Michigan their full votes back.

      • SWPAnnA, on October 15, 2012 at 6:51 pm said:

        No, he gave the “Uncommitted” Michigan Voters his name as a gesture of knowing what they meant, and he took 4 Hillary Delegates.

        • lyn5, on October 15, 2012 at 8:31 pm said:

          Let me be clear. (He he) What I meant is that Obama asked the credentials committee to give MI and FL delegates their full voting rights back before the national convention. That happened after the BS from the rules committee and when his nomination was secure.

  24. wmcb, on October 15, 2012 at 6:25 pm said:

    Completely OT, but I must.

  25. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 6:31 pm said:

    There is no way this can turn out well for Obama . and no way this will decrease interest , or talk , exactly the opposite . There seems to be no way to spin this to his advantage
    Why is this little rhyme dancing in my head
    O what a tangled web we weave , when first we practice to deceive

  26. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 6:33 pm said:
    • cj, on October 15, 2012 at 6:56 pm said:

      It really does stink & I think that’s exactly what the average voter, who doesn’t want to get mired down in the details will think. 4 Americans dead & all we get is spin and no responsibility from POTUS, and now this.

  27. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 6:34 pm said:

    Hannity isn’t buying it either

  28. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 6:39 pm said:
  29. yttik, on October 15, 2012 at 6:40 pm said:

    Hillary taking responsibility is really bad for Obama. Bad optics. It makes him look not presidential. Also, Obama is far too arrogant to say, no, it was my fault, I take full responsibility. I’m the President.

    I don’t think that was Hillary plan, to make the President look incompetent and uninvolved, but that’s what it’s going to wind up looking like.

  30. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 6:49 pm said:

    Now we have the spectacle of Barack Obama cowering in the White House, praying that Hillary takes the heat and that he gets off the hook. But Obama is delusional. Just because Hillary proved that she has bigger balls than Obama does not mean Obama gets a pass on this disaster. Where does the Buck stop Barack?

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/73501/obama-hides-behind-hillarys-skirt/

  31. carol haka, on October 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm said:

    Drudge reporting prison break in Libya. Can I have George W BACK PLEASE?

  32. HELENK, on October 15, 2012 at 7:00 pm said:

    am seeing stories that backtrack has military on standby to go to Libya and get the attackers.
    It has been over 30 days and what makes anyone think they would stay in the same place??
    If the CIA was blinded by the attack and no one secured the scene so we are not sure how much intelligence was compromised, what kind of military attack would work??

    No one has ever said just who mrs lamb contacted while she was watching the attack in real time. Did she notify the proper people? Since she and her two immediate superiors refused the request for security, does anyone know if the requests ever went higher??

    Hilary is right to take the responsibility for the state department failure. The timing is a little weird.
    I have had a General Manger lose his job because of an engineer who caused a major wreck.

    Who will take responsibility for the lies and trying to cover-up and the lack of just being interested by the executive branch??

  33. yttik, on October 15, 2012 at 7:05 pm said:

    This is kind of like saying, “Sir, I take full responsibility for my Commander in Chief, he’s incompetent and uninvolved.”

    He’s also scary dangerous, as in his ego is big enough he just may think going to war will make him look more grown up. I don’t like what I’m hearing about drones waiting to go over Libya.

  34. Simofish, on October 15, 2012 at 7:26 pm said:

    Loving the SF Giants tonight !

  35. “Now look, It’s all HER fault”, on October 15, 2012 at 7:26 pm said:

    [...] 3am phone calls to the White House are forwarded to Hillary’s cell. I don’t think hiding behind Hillary’s skirt is going to help the jackass out of this one. The tweets are pretty funny: Arguendo: Hillary doing [...]

  37. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 8:20 pm said:

    GIANTS WIN!!!

  38. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 8:24 pm said:

    Sens. Lindsay Graham, Kelly Ayotte and John McCain released a statement tonight reacting to Clinton’s remarks:

    “We have just learned that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has claimed full responsibility for any failure to secure our people and our Consulate in Benghazi prior to the attack of September 11, 2012. This is a laudable gesture, especially when the White House is trying to avoid any responsibility whatsoever.

    “However, we must remember that the events of September 11 were preceded by an escalating pattern of attacks this year in Benghazi, including a bomb that was thrown into our Consulate in April, another explosive device that was detonated outside of our Consulate in June, and an assassination attempt on the British Ambassador. If the President was truly not aware of this rising threat level in Benghazi, then we have lost confidence in his national security team, whose responsibility it is to keep the President informed. But if the President was aware of these earlier attacks in Benghazi prior to the events of September 11, 2012, then he bears full responsibility for any security failures that occurred. The security of Americans serving our nation everywhere in the world is ultimately the job of the Commander-in-Chief. The buck stops there.
    “Furthermore, there is the separate issue of the insistence by members of the Administration, including the President himself, that the attack in Benghazi was the result of a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video, long after it had become clear that the real cause was a terrorist attack. The President also bears responsibility for this portrayal of the attack, and we continue to believe that the American people deserve to know why the Administration acted as it did.”

    • darraghcmurphy, on October 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm said:

      they really do love her. And by “love” I mean trust, respect, and admire. They are closing ranks around Hillary. Amazing.

    • DM, on October 15, 2012 at 8:41 pm said:

      I’m glad the Republicans are not accepting the b.s. Yes, Hillary is responsible for the security of her people, but that’s not where the buck stops. See my comment below.

    • Erica, on October 15, 2012 at 8:46 pm said:

      They’re not buying it, and he is not off the hook. I think that by calling her statement “a laudable gesture,” they are acknowledging her taking of responsibility for the security of the site and the State staff there, but also saying she cannot shield him from ultimate responsibility of understanding the threat level of the entire region and taking appropriate action to protect our assets there. His national security team has failed if they are in greater service to his so-called legacy or immediate political needs than they are to the safety and preservation of American interests.

      • Erica, on October 15, 2012 at 8:53 pm said:

        I am glad she made the statement, it was the right thing to do, and while I would have liked her to do so sooner, I’m not going to second guess it at this point. Am also glad they are not going to let him slide. The debate should be very interesting. I predict Obama will try to look up and face Romney, but in about 5 minutes when Romney utters the word Benghazi, he will fold and go back to staring either at the podium or the moderator.

    • Constance, on October 15, 2012 at 10:41 pm said:

      This is really impressive! The Obots made this a political issue when they lied to the American people about the terrorist attack.

    • kanaughty, on October 16, 2012 at 2:10 am said:

      Well, i have seen this in the past that mccain has been friends with hillary so this is nice to see him standing up for her. I think we now know with real proof who the real working across the aisle president would have been, that’s hillary. She has loyal allies on that side unlike ob.

    • britgirls, on October 16, 2012 at 6:04 am said:

      I really appreciate that statement from McCain. BO does NOT get a pass this time.

  39. DM, on October 15, 2012 at 8:39 pm said:

    So Hillary takes responsibility for what happened in Benghazi. It was overdue, and I’m not particularly happy with Hillary or Obama. In my world, where people don’t run away from responsibilities, this is what I would expect:

    September 12, 2012, President Obama: “My fellow Americans, there’s been a terror attack in the consulate in Benghazi. Four Americans are dead, a, b., c, d, my heart goes to their families. The failed security will be revamped, and to that end I have asked for an investigation. Secretary Hillary Clinton has submitted her resignation, but I have rejected her resignation. The buck stops at my desk. I appreciate the work Secretary Clinton has done, and the review will determine how we go forward. My administration will seek those responsible for the attack and my promise to you is that they will be brought to justice.”

    Did the secretary of state under Bill Clinton, Albright, take responsibility for the failed security of the embassies in Africa when they were attacked by al-Q. while Bill pretended that nothing happened? Did the secretary of the navy take responsibility for the bombing of the Cole? WTF.

  40. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm said:

    Don’t forget to vote for Bristol!!

  41. leslie, on October 15, 2012 at 8:44 pm said:

    Somewhat OT:
    I returned from the Denver –> Chicago drive with my daughter a few hours ago. I saw NO signs or stickers for Obama – nor did my daughter. We did see some yard signs (some very large) and a couple of R/R stickers and one anti-Obama sticker. We were on I-80 and I-88. To be fair, we saw very few political stickers or signs, but R/R outnumbered the BHO signs. This was in CO, across mid-IA, up the northwestern part of IL and into Chgo. Daughter drove from AZ -> NM -> CO. She saw/noticed no stickers of any kind. This is very interesting compared to 2008 when we saw bumper stickers, lapel pins, buttons, etc. everywhere.

    • DM, on October 15, 2012 at 8:52 pm said:

      The Obama campaign is not happy with Gallup:

      The Obama campaign today blasted the latest battleground state polling that finds Mitt Romney with a five point lead among likely voters, saying the Gallup/USA Today poll has “deep flaws.”
      “Gallup’s data is once again far out of line with other public pollsters,” Obama’s pollster Joel Benenson wrote in a memo.

      http://news.yahoo.com/obama-campaign-slams-swing-state-poll-225139078–abc-news-politics.html

      • Erica, on October 15, 2012 at 8:55 pm said:

        Waaahhhh, leave Barack alone!!!!! Everything they say sounds like whining or delirium….

      • Lola-at-Large, on October 15, 2012 at 9:03 pm said:

        Interesting. From what I’m seeing, there’s a battle raging inside Gallup on how to deal with the lawsuit. Sometimes their methodology is abnormal, sometimes it’s normal, ever since the Justice Department brought that suit. I speculated earlier today that we would see which faction was winning based on what happens tomorrow night, since Gallup will choose the voters and their questions. But maybe we’re seeing it today. Or maybe it’s just another normal methodology poll.

      • kanaughty, on October 16, 2012 at 2:16 am said:

        Now that is too funny. I mean how funny do they look fighting polls?

    • myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 8:57 pm said:

      I saw an Obama sticker the other day. Then I looked closer and realized it was an old one.

  42. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 9:01 pm said:
  43. wmcb, on October 15, 2012 at 9:03 pm said:
  44. wmcb, on October 15, 2012 at 9:04 pm said:
  45. swanspirit, on October 15, 2012 at 9:07 pm said:
  46. myiq2xu, on October 15, 2012 at 9:16 pm said:

    I started a fresh thread if anyone is interested

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