Seeing Fascists Under Her Bed


From The Confluence:

Two depressing videos

The first I found at NakedCapitalism. It’s a post election summary on Real News Network about what is going to happen in the next four years. That we’re going in the direction of favelas is no surprise to me. But what most interested me was the bit in the last 10 minutes or so about what might happen in the vast sea of red in the middle of the country (and parts of Pennsylvania). We are talking about nationalism. I think the little diatribe that Rush Limbaugh went on today, as described by Matt Taibbi, suggests the germ of that is already out there. There’s a bitter resentment about how Latinos, women, the LBGT community and african americans have exerted their “special privileges”. As the economy falls deeper into recession due to ill-conceived austerity measures, we might see what seems like the sudden emergence of a true brown shirt movement. Liberals will be the ones who stabbed the good citizens in the back when they elected Obama (not me! I voted for Anderson and I have the iphone pic to prove it). Anyway, just watch it. It makes me think that the right wing conservative who watched Schindler’s List can not make the connection because liberal Democrats are not Jews.


So Barack Obama just won (or stole) a second term. The election results caused no violent reactions anywhere in the country (other than someone leaving a dead pig in front of one Romney campaign office).

Republicans are weeping, wailing and gnashing their teeth at the prospect of a demographic realignment that would leave the Democrats in charge for many years to come. The GOP discussions mostly center on where they went wrong this time and how to win over Hispanics and independents to their side in future elections.

So what is Riverdaughter worried about? She’s got her knickers twisted that the occupants of Flyover Country (aka “the vast sea of red in the middle of the country”) are gonna start goosestepping and throwing liberals into death camps.

Unfortunately, hers is not an isolated case.

big·ot
noun \ˈbi-gət\
1: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed \-gə-təd\ adjective



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157 Responses to Seeing Fascists Under Her Bed

  1. Oswald says:

    Roseanne Barr got more votes than Rocky Anderson.

  2. Lulu says:

    I am hoping that they throw us out of the union. We are so dangerous we should be expelled don’t you think. Then they can be safe in utopia like Long Island and Staten Island and New Jersey. Or something. Whatever. They won the election and now THEY are paranoid.

  3. myiq2xu says:

    BTW – Riverdaughter is a coward who refuses to post my comments at TC, forcing me to post them here instead.

  4. myiq2xu says:

    Has anybody checked the spam pit today?

  5. votermom says:

  6. nerdle says:

    Obamacrats are fascists, plain and simple. Remember the video with people pledging their allegiance to Obama? To them, everything is racism. If not racism, you’re a Republican. Or you’re a low information voter and don’t “understand” the issues or what the Dems/Obama is trying to accomplish. There is no reasoning or debate with them.

    As far as I’m concerned, the Dem party can celebrate as much as it wants. The people who voted for Obama voted for him, not the Dem party. They cannot hold on to the WH in the future. The people that they’ve driven away, will not come back.

    Also, I don’t think for a second that the media can continue to perpetuate this feel-good message that the USA is on the track to becoming sunshine and lollipops. I give it until January, and that’s being generous. Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming up and people are going to feel like shit because they can’t afford jack.

    • AniEm says:

      Agree. If anything, the last four years have demonstrated that the far left is just as batshit and diabolic as the far right.

    • Pips says:

      “The people who voted for Obama voted for him, not the Dem party.”

      Exactly! And that so few realize this – that it’s a cult worship of one – is mind boggling.

  7. swanspirit says:

    I had a feeling about this administration . It will be so weighed down with scandal and ignominy that it might be possible to hobble Obama and not be steamrolled under and rolled over by his terrible misdirection . But we have to resist , engage and loudly contend with him at every turn.

    As for RD , I can speak confluently .
    To RD
    Any time , dear daughter of the water , you dream of large numbers of people under your bed, you are engaging what Jung called the collective subconscious . This bespeaks a very early level of development , lacking sophisticaion , refinement , discernment . and selectivity . You are lacking in individuation , and out of touch with your animus and your shadow . Your yearning for relationship and intercourse with others is at a primitive level , and expresses itself in visions of large nebulous and amorphous groups , rather than distinct individuals . Recognition of this level of your development is essential to any continued progress you might hope to make .

  8. carol haka says:

    Being of Jewish descent, that is just fucking insulting. We would not allow her ilk in the death camps with us! :evil: My American Indian heritage in flyover country in that sea of red is insulted also – but in this case, it’s blood.

    • swanspirit says:

      RD is a forking idiot , who somehow learned words .

      • Mary says:

        Yes. A bigoted idiot with a big vocabulary who can’t even see herself honestly, let alone others.

        If she thinks she’s going to get another job with her attitudes in an Obama economy, she’s more delusional than we think.

      • carol haka says:

        She is a brilliant writer. She just sucked down some crazy pills over the last few years. :evil:

        • leslie says:

          I agree about her writing skills. I am jealous. Srsly.

        • leslie says:

          I am also stuck on a commuter train and that means I missed the movie I was going to see after work tonight. It doesn’t look any too promising either as they just announced that passengers can get off the train to stretch if we want. That’s bad news.

        • carol haka says:

          If you have cable, go to primetime on demand and watch the Elementary series. I like it. I am now going to watch last night’s episode. :smile:

        • leslie says:

          Never heard of Elementary. I’ll try it. Thnx.

        • carol haka says:

          It is a modern day take on Sherlock Holmes. Lucy Lu is in it. I really like her. Start from the first episode so you will know the relationship. :smile:

        • a says:

          I disagree. Good ideas, but desperately in need of an editor. She knows many words, but “concise” is not one of them.

  9. Oswald says:

    Matt Taibbi:

    Hey, Rush Limbaugh: ‘Starting an Abortion Industry’ Won’t Win You Female Voters

    There’s been a lot of hand-wringing among conservatives of the Rush/Hannity school in the last few days, a lot of concern about this outreach question, and honestly, the tone of the discussion is beginning to sound like the last days of a failed 1950s marriage. The husband who’s gone all day at work comes home and throws his hands up in the air in mock frustration: what do you want from me, another Cadillac? Another fur coat? I just got you new shoes last week!

    And the wife, who’s loved this man for 20 years despite his abject stupidity, just sighs. All she wants her husband to do is listen to her, or take a day off work sometime and take her for a drive in the country, or make some spontaneous show of affection, maybe popping home for lunch like in the old days – just some evidence that he’s even faintly aware of what’s going on in her head. But when they try to talk it out, things just get worse, because in his very manner of asking her what’s wrong, all hubby does is reveal that he thinks of his wife entirely as a nagging, financial parasite who’s always on his ass about something.

    The only way I would take Matt Taibbi’s advice on women would be if Bill Maher and Tbogg weren’t available.

    • carol haka says:

      …. or Peterson or the other Peterson or OJ or …. :evil:

    • leslie says:

      ROFLOL

    • Constance says:

      There are some really stupid Republican men. Sadly they can’t learn what would attract women by sitting around talking to themselves and the two women who are in their boys club because they act like imitation men.

      We are going to have Obamacare because the Republicans don’t have the power to stop it. The only reason most young women go to the Dr is for birth control checkups and prescriptions. So basically in Republican men’s minds young women are supposed to be content to pay huge premiums for expensive Obamacare and then have the only reason they see a Dr exempt from coverage due to the moral outrage of a bunch of old farts who think birth control is a “women issue” (we all have met this sort of oaf and we all despise them) but these Republicans are not concerned about the moral implications of Obamacare covering ED drugs for unmarried men. And they seriously can’t understand the problem?! Well they better learn to enjoy playing the powerless victim because women are 54% of the population.

      • ME says:

        What insurance covers ED drugs? I used to work at a pharmacy and I have never seen it happen.

        • Supposedly it was for diabetic men and those others who needed a big dose of V, we were told by PP, NOW, etc. I bought this argument, until I actually talked with a diabetic man who couldn’t get a prescription for it. He had to buy it OTC like the rest of his insulin stuff.

        • Glennmcgahee says:

          Ed drugs are not covered – I know.

    • t says:

      …or Obama

  10. leslie says:

    It isn’t fair. I have a job and RD doesn’t and she has the iPhone. But then I don’t have those bad dreams that she has.

  11. carol haka says:

    I still like Petraeus. I feel bad for him and his family. Being gone all the time and married to your job doesn’t leave its mark. To lose a brilliant career is ridiculous. :cry:

    • DM says:

      He’ll be fine. He’ll go to work as a lobbyist for Lockheed or some weapons manufacturer. He’ll make more money, and the wife never saw him anyway. I wouldn’t worry too much about his future.

    • Constance says:

      You know I am now wondering if Petraeus resigned because Obama and co. was trying to use the affair to blackmail him to lie to Congress about Benghazi.

  12. DandyTiger says:

    Time to recirculate this from Bush 2 days:

    To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II:

    In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up ‘revocation’ in the Oxford English Dictionary.)

    Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not fancy).

    Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.

    Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated sometime next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

    To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

    1. The letter ‘U’ will be reinstated in words such as ‘colour,’ ‘favour,’ ‘labour’ and ‘neighbour.’ Likewise, you will learn to spell ‘doughnut’ without skipping half the letters, and the suffix ‘-ize’ will be replaced by the suffix ‘-ise.’Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up ‘vocabulary’).

    2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ”like’ and ‘you know’ is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter ‘u’ and the elimination of ‘-ize.’

    3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.

    4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you’re not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can’t sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you’re not ready to shoot grouse.

    5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

    6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

    7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.)

    8.You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.

    9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. New Zealand beer is also acceptable, as New Zealand is pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth – see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat’s Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

    God Save the Queen.

  13. leslie says:

    So, they just strayed the train up again. Yeah!!! I’m going home.

  14. carol haka says:

    So funny listening to laura and huck discussing Tea Party and who might rise from the ashes of the movement and how to fix the republican party. As if there will be a republican party in 2016. And if they want to know who is the Tea Party, go to http://www.conservatives4palin.com. There are multiple pictures of her. :evil:

  15. leslie says:

    This is likely to be wat OT. But I was reading Twitchy and saw that Katherine Herridge of FOX News – the one who’s been breaking stories also resigned. Is this the payback Val JarJar was talking about? Isn’t this a bit lcommunist-like or Nazi-ish thinking?

    • carol haka says:

      What the fuck? I bet she got caught on the email list. This means Patreaus was the leak! OMG!

    • lyn5 says:

      Did she have the affair with Patreaus?

    • leslie says:

      Believe it or not. . . . I finally got home. And I’m watching the autocorrect more closely. Catherine Herridge is on Greta reporting on Petraeus. So is Trey Gowdy, Pat Buchanan, Rudy Giuliani . . . All now in the target of JarJar’s vengeance. So perhaps the Ingraham tweet on Twitchy was wrong? I don’t know.

      • carol haka says:

        It was the way she wrote the tweet. She was giving credit to Catherine for reporting Patraeus ….

    • Erica says:

      She reported on Benghazi. What the heck is going on? Now on Fox they’re reporting that Valerie Jarret has been in private negotiations with Iran (where she was born).

  16. DM says:

    • Oswald says:

      What sources?

      Tarot cards, horoscope and Magic 8-Ball?

    • angienc says:

      That settles it then.

    • DM says:

      John Miller CBS reporter

      • DM says:

        John Miller is an American journalist and a former government official.
        He is the former Associate Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Analytic Transformation and Technology.[1] Prior to this, he was an Assistant Director of Public Affairs for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), where he was the bureau’s national spokesman.
        Miller is also a former ABC News reporter and anchorman, perhaps best known for conducting a May 1998 interview with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.[2]
        Miller has been named a Senior Correspondent for CBS News. Miller will have a major role in the mornings on CBS News. He will report for all CBS News platforms and broadcasts, including occasionally for 60 Minutes. He was hired on November 1, 2011.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Miller_(journalist)

  17. driguana says:

    It’s such an odd feeling right now….it’s like everything is the reverse or opposite of what it appears to be….right is wrong, idiots are geniuses, the truth is a lie. The biggest problem at the moment is that the blinders have gone on and most people around us refuse to see reality….sad, sad, sad….

  18. DandyTiger says:

    Oh, and if RD thinks the Repubs are the Fascists instead of the current Obamacrats, she’s crazy. Or maybe she’s just trying to stay off Obama’s kill list and not have a drone come after her.

    • Erica says:

      Drones are a bummer, that’s for sure….

    • djmm says:

      RD is a great writer and I still like some of her posts. I miss the old days of the Confluence. (I did not know she had banned comments from myiq, which, among other things, shows a complete lack of taste.)
      She says she did not vote for the President, which I can respect. But she should take note of Oliver Stone, who is coming off the kool-aid (after it is too late to do any good):

      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83640.html

      djmm

  19. votermom says:

    bwahahahaha

  20. Oswald says:

    myiq2xu, on November 9, 2012 at 12:23 am said:

    Still seeing fascists under your bed, huh?

    Paranoia will destroy ya.
    Reply

    RD, on November 9, 2012 at 9:13 pm said:

    I guess you haven’t been keeping up with the rise of nationalism in Europe in the countries facing the harshest austerity measures. Think of the money that must be paid to the bankers as reparations your country is scheduled to pay and can’t get out of.
    History repeats because the same circumstances occur over and over again.

    When was the last time we were $16 trillion in debt?

    • DandyTiger says:

      But what does that have to do with R’s vs. (O)D’s? Sounded like she was talking about the red fly over country area and them rising up. Sounds a lot more like what the OD’s are doing now if we’re keeping up with nationalism. All hail Obama.

    • carol haka says:

      Huh?

    • votermom says:

      Republicans are zombies out to eat her yummy educated brains.

    • Pips says:

      But … while it’s true that nationalism is rising in Europe, and in an alarming fashion too, so is boundless – and here I thought it couldn’t get any stronger! – admiration for Obama. All hail to Obama for how he has turned America into a truly accepting multi ethnic society while making the old, white, conservative ‘forces’ superfluous!

      I don’t see or hear anyone ‘important’ worry about the fact, that if the free people of free western democracies could’ve voted for Obama they would have done so by numbers in the 80-90% range.

      How does free people voting in the numbers caractheristic of dictatorships compute!?

      I blame the media, but still … there must be more to it than that, I just don’t know what.

    • soupcity says:

      She wonders why she’s still unemployed. Some prospective employers do like to use the google and if you sound like a complete nut…well.

      (Just my undereducated plebian opinion)

  21. votermom says:

  22. carol haka says:

    FBI didn’t follow protocal to investigate. Hillary not available to testify. Impeachment.

  23. angienc says:

    OT — the righwing blogosphere is going full idiot pointing fingers & concentrating on distractions the MSM has thrown to them about how Romney really didn’t ever have momentum, the first debate didn’t change anything & how some tech fail suppressed Romney’s voters on election day so they will not ask the *real* questions about what happened between election eve & election day.

    I full expect to see the following revisionist history in the MSM by Monday:

    Remember all those liberal newspapers who flipped their endorsements from Obama in 2008 to Romney in 2012? Totally a sign that Romney was tanking.

    Oh and those pathetic Obama crowds & those huge ones for Romney with thousands waiting in the cold and rain to see him (that Obama only matched when Katy Perry or Jay-Z opened for him)? That was deliberate strategy on Obama’s part to lull the right into a false sense of momentum.

    Finally, Obama in Iowa election eve slumped over the podium, rambling about this being his last race with tears streaming down his face while at the same time Romney in NH with a crowd of 12,000+ cheering so loudly when he came on stage that he couldn’t start his speech for 10 minutes? Never happened.

    • carol haka says:

      You summed up Romney as an abject failure nicely! :smile: Someone needs to head to CLeveland in search of 1 lone Republican that voted for Romney and blow the lid off of this voter fraud! :evil:

    • Pips says:

      “That was deliberate strategy on Obama’s part to lull the right into a false sense of momentum.”

      [Snort. Lol-sob.]

  24. t says:

    I knew the klown would be back soon.

  25. t says:

    Petraeus’ affair was with his biographer. The book title? “All In”. Seriously. You can’t make this sh*t up.

  26. mcnorman says:

    Anyone seen this one in the NY Times?

    My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me? NAME WITHHELD

    Don’t expose the affair in any high-profile way. It would be different if this man’s project was promoting some (contextually hypocritical) family-values platform, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. The only motive for exposing the relationship would be to humiliate him and your wife, and that’s never a good reason for doing anything. This is between you and your spouse. You should tell her you want to separate, just as you would if she were sleeping with the mailman. The idea of “suffering in silence” for the good of the project is illogical. How would the quiet divorce of this man’s mistress hurt an international leadership initiative? He’d probably be relieved.

    The fact that you’re willing to accept your wife’s infidelity for some greater political good is beyond honorable. In fact, it’s so over-the-top honorable that I’m not sure I believe your motives are real. Part of me wonders why you’re even posing this question, particularly in a column that is printed in The New York Times.

    Your dilemma is intriguing, but I don’t see how it’s ambiguous. Your wife is having an affair with a person you happen to respect. Why would that last detail change the way you respond to her cheating? Do you admire this man so much that you haven’t asked your wife why she keeps having sex with him? I halfway suspect you’re writing this letter because you want specific people to read this column and deduce who is involved and what’s really going on behind closed doors (without actually addressing the conflict in person). That’s not ethical, either.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/a-message-from-beyond.html?_r=0

  27. kk says:

    ahhhh myiq is back….,all is well in my little corner of the world :)

  28. angienc says:

    OT (this really belongs in votermom’s thread, but I’m putting it up here).

    Blatantly stolen from a poster named TarheelBen at another site but it sums up a lot of what I’ve been trying to say:

    Okay, I realize that Mitt had some problems with the base. In the last two months, it appeared he ran a campaign that was pretty much focused on the 5-6% undecideds in the middle, and I understand some conservatives considered him to be too much of a RINO. I also understand that his ORCA turnout program turned out to be a big bust. However:

    1. Just about every poll I looked at showed the GOP leading in enthusiasm, usually by double-digits.
    2. Every EV report I saw had the GOP out-performing its 2008 numbers.
    3. The Gallup and Rasmussen party affiliation polls both showed the GOP ahead, and Rasmussen has a great track record.
    4. The Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls all had Mitt leading for most of the last month.
    5. Mitt was drawing huge, enthusiastic crowds, and it seemed to build as Nov. 6 approached.
    6. And then on election day, Mitt’s numbers tanked, falling short of 2008 turnout by 11%. As you can see, turnout had been increasing every four years when you add in population growth – until 2012.
    7. I’ve heard that Team Romney’s internal polls were similar to Gallup/Rasmussen.

    2000 7% increase over 1996
    2004 19% increase over 2000
    2008 7% increase over 2004
    2012 11% decrease over 2008!

    All of this has been bothering me a lot, and it just doesn’t make any sense. At the moment, I’m close to concluding that this election was stolen from us. If you think about it, it wouldn’t be that difficult. They could focus on a few selected counties in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida.

    1. I’ve looked at reports from Philadelphia and Cleveland where Obama got numbers that couldn’t be true, such as 100% turnout and 99% of the vote.
    2. I’ve discovered that not ONE SINGLE MILITARY ABSENTEE BALLOT was counted. This was outrageous. I’ve read reports about the government dragging its feet to get ballots mailed out – and then the ballots were received the day after. And the absentee ballots that were sent to our troops in Afghanistan burned up in a plane crash. I don’t know how many total ballots were not counted, but I know Mitt would have gotten around 65-70%.
    3. There are three different kinds of software that was used to tabulate votes on these machines – and I’m looking into whether this software could be hacked or not.

    Back to me: Another thing that bothers me is how everyone in the MSM was very quick to jump on the “The results match those swing-state polls! There you go: polls were right! Now lets talk about how much Romney fucked everything up.”

    The most laughable part, of course, is that these people are pointing the “accuracy” of the DailyKos/SEIU swing state polls done by PPP to justify how everything you list about enthusiasm/crowd size/Gallup & Ras having Romney ahead etc for Romney the last month did not mean what it meant.

    For fucks sake — *of course* the actual results of the election match the RCP averages — that’s how election fixing works, you create exactly that kind of “believable” result, you don’t give your guy a 20 point lead when the polls had him tied. Plus, the fraud via polls was in the works for a long time –at first it was to demoralize us thinking that they would win without having to do wide-scale voting fraud, but then that first debate happened & Romney started gathering momentum because people were getting excited to vote FOR him, not just AGAINST Obama. That is when TeamObama started panicking & they needed some kind of last minute “Black Swan” to reset the story by taking the focus off of the campaign (especially after the jobs reports that were supposed to be ATOMIC BOMBS! didn’t work). The flailing & vulgarity we saw directly from Obama himself, not just his campaign & surrogates, after October 3rd was due to the stress of figuring out what the “Black Swan” was going to be — if they hadn’t “lucked out” (I’m being sarcastic here) with Sandy hitting when it did, they would have been bombing Libya in relation for Benghazi a week before the election.

  29. Constance says:

    So did anyone else think that Petreaus might have resigned because the White house was using the affair to blackmail him into lying about Benghazi to Congress?

    • t says:

      Interesting idea, but one would think he would say so. Maybe he fears retribution by unmanned drones? (kidding about that part).

      • Constance says:

        I am sure he fears retribution. From the White house, from CIA people, even from ex military people for hanging the SEALs out to dry. The least retribution he probably fears is his wife, they have been married so long and separated through much of their marriage that she probably doesn’t give a rats ass what he does and they probably have some convenient friendship arrangement.

    • Erica says:

      Obama used to smear opponents to get into office, so why not smear someone to stay in office?

      • DM says:

        Obama “used” to smear? He still does. Obama smeared Bill Clinton with racism to stop him from campaigning for Hillary. Then he used the race card and other smear tactics against HIllary. And we just saw Obama do his Chicago politics on Romney, one of the most clean individuals to run for office. Bain Capital became a dirty word with insinuations of crime and other unlawful acts.

    • DM says:

      Maybe I think the most reasonable scenarios. From what I’ve read, the FBI investigated that Petraeus’s computer had been compromised. That’s how they found affair, and the woman was being investigated for having tried to read files in the computer. Petraeus is not under investigation, but clearly the affair put the security of his “shit” (Movie, Burn After Reading) at risk. That’s why he had to resign. It wasn’t so much that he had the affair, but that he was careless with the security of his “shit”.

    • DM says:

      I also think that the blackmail by the WH is not unreasonable if the WH wants to make sure that Petraeus is not a viable candidate to compete against the Democrats in 2016. The FBI can say anything to Petraeus regarding the computer, and investigate, knowing full well that there’s nothing to find. The investigation is enough cause to make him resign and destroy any political career he might have.

  30. Clover says:

    Growing up, Riverdaughter was traumatized by Christianist fundies. The experience left her susceptible to numerous misconceptions, such as confusing pole-dance feminism with the real thing and mistaking Richard Dawkins for a brilliant thinker.

    • DM says:

      Most kids are traumatized for one thing or another. I wouldn’t make too much of the religion she grew up with.

      • Clover says:

        I don’t. RD is the one forever going on and on and on about it.

      • gxm17 says:

        Oh good grief. Then I suppose children who were traumatized by incest or sexual assault shouldn’t make too much of it either. Cuz, you know, most kids are traumatized by one thing or another.

        The thing that traumatizes a child is central to the trauma. When they don’t “make too much of it,” the trauma festers. RD has every freakin’ right to express her feelings about her childhood. More power to her.

        • Clover says:

          Actually, I didn’t say anything about RD’s right to express her feelings about her childhood. My comment to DM was a response to his/her suggestion that I am “making too much” of RD’s early religious trauma. But it’s RD herself who quite frequently connects the dots between that trauma and her (in my view) muddled thinking about feminism and atheism. For recent examples, see RD’s series of 2011 posts on Anthony Weiner, and her series of posts on religion from several months ago.

  31. votermom says:

    Same thing with the huge “cards cast” number as Boston

    • Lulu says:

      Democrats are now the party of rigged elections not just nominations. All of this talk about Hillary in 2016 is bullshit. They will pick a nominee just like they did in 2008. Why bother with primaries or caucuses? And this hand wringing over not having a deep political bench to draw future nominees from is also more garbage. They will just pick some thug who is an apparatchik from the same machine, make up some accomplishments with marketing and install him/her/it.

      The only solution to my way of thinking is a complete revamp of the voting system. The feds are not going to do it so the states will have to do so. Voter ID, high tech matching and interface with who shows up at the polls to registration, and low tech paper ballots to keep it anonymous on how each individual votes. Any state officials who oppose reform should be harassed out of office as election cheats and that also goes for fucking judges who enable them.

      • Lulu says:

        And any election fraud has a mandatory prison sentence that is LOOONG.

      • Constance says:

        You are right that Hillary won’t run in 2016. The Obots own the party now and the only other group with similar power is the Clintons. No way are they going to let Clinton more power than they have and anyway Hillary doesn’t fit their young brand.

        • I’m afraid I agree. And we all know that the new rising star in the Obamacrat Party is one Julian Castro. The twin who used his other twin to stand in for him during official event. The reasoning we’ll be told is they’ll have to maintain the Latino vote.

  32. Good Morning Votermom. Looks like we are the only ones up this early lol. I am working on the syllabus for Poverty 101. lol

  33. SCOTUS taking up the Voting Rights Act

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court will consider eliminating the government’s most potent weapon against racial discrimination at polling places since the 1960s. The court acted three days after a diverse coalition of voters propelled President Barack Obama to a second term in the White House.

    http://news.yahoo.com/high-court-look-voting-rights-law-201947650.html

    VOTER ID Damnit!

    • I believe that this is the one issue we should all be working for henceforth. That and getting rid of voting machines. Wisconsin has the easiest system ever: you fill in a blank arrow with a pencil, then its read by scantron. Paper ballots and scantron read — even a high schooler could do it.

  34. alice says:

    Oh fer gawd’s sake. Fascism? As in, mid-twentieth century European fascism? Please. What childish, grandiose self-indulgence. What ludicrous and pretentious nonsense. It really irks me that the right in this country is told to purge its scary people (and well it should) but the so-called left doubles down and rewards its scary people with mainstream pundit columns. That crew needs the grandiose persecution fantasy to justify the increasingly closed ideological bubble they inhabit — ironically, precisely what they accuse their “nazi opponents” of, too. Projection? Who knows.

    Those who peddle this kind of grotesque fantasy aren’t merely bigots. Frankly, I consider them fanatics. They’re so invested in their apocalyptic struggle with their evil villains, they’ve become unhinged. I posted at Confluence for a while, and I’m sorry Riverdaughter lost her job, but that’s not a pass to throw your lot in with fanatics. I think there are more than a few people like me, who are convinced that the “left” and “right” in this country are increasingly comprised of completely insane whack jobs. The problem is, the “left” fanatics are the establishment now, despite their melodramatic fantasies as righteous heroes of WWII and the Civil War rolled into one, and they are able to frame their insanity as normalcy.

    Wow, this one made me mad. Bringing up Schindler’s List, Riverdaughter? Really? Pathetic, surreal, and ugly.

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