End of Round One

Posted on January 23, 2013 by myiq2xu

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Okay, Round One is over. Round Two starts in a couple hours. The last thread was a live blog. This is a reaction thread.

So far my impression is that Hillary Clinton was at the top of her game. The GOP landed a few blows but there were no knock-outs. She accepted responsibility without accepting (or assigning) any blame.

I expect the media (who never really covered this scandal anyway) to announce that everything is settle and resolved.

What do you think?

Hillary’s opening statement:

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62 Responses

  1. votermom, on January 23, 2013 at 8:58 am said:

    Yup. This was more about 2016 than Benghazi.
    The Dems all bowed and pledged their support, the GOP previewed their opposition.

    • Mary, on January 23, 2013 at 9:04 am said:

      Ayup. All politics, all the time. And Hillary played her part.

      • myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:08 am said:

        Hillary is a career politician. She is one of the best, but she is still a politician.

        Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. – Psalm 146:3

    • Constance, on January 23, 2013 at 10:16 am said:

      I really don’t see Hillary running in 2016. The Dems don’t give a rats ass about helping women run for elected office. The Obots only care about preserving their power. Right now there are two factions in the Democrat party, the Clinton faction and the Obot faction. If the Clinton faction gets another President then they will be the most powerful Democrat faction. The Obots will want to play King maker and will pick someone else to run in 2016. Realize in 2008 there was the Kennedy faction and the Clinton faction of Democrats and Kennedy pushed Bronco to keep the Clinton faction from gaining power.

      • gxm17, on January 23, 2013 at 10:44 am said:

        Constance, neither do I. Just don’t see it happening. And if she does decide to run, it will be even more hateful than 2008. And I really don’t want to have to go through that again. IMO, we probably won’t see a real woman contender again in my lifetime. Hillary is special, she’s a brilliant thinker and skilled politician and, frankly, you don’t find many who are up to her level of either gender.

  4. Mary, on January 23, 2013 at 9:00 am said:

    I need to apologize to Swanspirit. I did, indeed, misunderstand her post re CNN & Dana Bash.

    Sorry, Swan. Heat of the moment, and all that. :)

  5. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:06 am said:

    While we are busy watching the Hillary Show:

  6. cj, on January 23, 2013 at 9:07 am said:

    Right out of the gate, CNN started with the tears, then followed with the fireworks. Low info voters saw a hero with a heart battling the nasty republican in Congress who won’t give up a dime to help her. That’s how the media’s going to play it, unless something changes in the next hearing.

  7. leslie, on January 23, 2013 at 9:10 am said:

    I’m at work and just had time to read the last thread. Tried to make a brief comment without knowing the comments were closed.
    I won’t have a chance to see/listen to the hearing and after reading the last post, I’m glad I won’t have to sit through it and be as disappointed as I am now.
    Thank you for covering this.

  8. HELENK, on January 23, 2013 at 9:10 am said:

    while the GOP was being blamed by Hilary this morning for lack of funding, remember this story. where the state dept spend the budget money

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/11/rep-questions-state-department-green-energy-spending-amid-security-concerns/

  9. DeniseVB, on January 23, 2013 at 9:12 am said:

    Benghazi happened over 4 months ago. It’s all political now. We’re in Obama World afterall ;)

    Had Hillary opened with “DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT’S LIKE TO WORK WITH A CHICAGO COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, WITH NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS, CRENDENTIALED BUT NO SKILLS?” I would have felt better. Afterall, she was right about him in 2008, why is she so wrong about him in 2013 ?

  10. votermom, on January 23, 2013 at 9:16 am said:

    OT

  11. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:16 am said:

    My Twitter icon appears to have changed itself.

  12. elliesmom, on January 23, 2013 at 9:19 am said:

    If this is a pep rally for 2016, I think Hillary may be in for some trouble. I don’t think her base is as strong as it once was. While I don’t think Obots would vote Republican, I don’t think they’re going to expend a lot of energy to get her the nomination, and if she’s nominated, elected. While I might still vote for her depending upon who her competition is, I’m not going to expend much energy either. Judging from the reaction here, where I would guess she had a lot of support in 2008, I think a lot of her most ardent supporters have become as lukewarm as I have. I’ve been lukewarm since she took a position in Obama’s cabinet so today is just an affirmation she sold out for her own glory.

    • myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:23 am said:

      Never fall in love with a politician.

    • votermom, on January 23, 2013 at 9:23 am said:

      A big part of her appeal was her competence. So …

    • cj, on January 23, 2013 at 9:28 am said:

      Plus 4 years is a long time to be out of the spotlight. She’s got to do something to stay relevant, but what? I just don’t see how working for The Clinton Foundation would bring that kind of exposure.

    • gram cracker, on January 23, 2013 at 9:43 am said:

      I think the “old guard’s”, Clinton & Biden, time has passed. The younger & darker Dem base won’t support old white boomers in the primaries in 2016. Don’t know who the younger Dems are yet, but by 2016 the oldsters are likely to be iced.

      Since 1992 our Presidents have been no older than 55 when elected.

      1992 Clinton, age 46
      2000 Bush the younger, age 55
      2008 Obama, age 47

    • gxm17, on January 23, 2013 at 10:51 am said:

      ITA. It would be 2000 all over again. ObamaNation won’t vote Republican but suddenly Michael Moore and his band of obot droogs will be telling us that SCOTUS seats don’t count, Roe v. Wade will never be overturned, and we all need to vote 3rd Party (but only for third party candidate who has a penis).

  13. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:27 am said:

    RAND PAUL: One of the things that disappointed me most about the original 9/11 was no one was fired. We spent trillions of dollars, but there were a lot of human errors, these are judgment errors, and the people who make judgment errors need to be replaced/fired no longer in charge of making these judgment calls. So we have a review board. The review board finds 64 different things we can change, a lot of them are commonsense and should be done, but the question is it’s a failure of leadership that they were not done in advance and four lives were [lost] because of this. I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately with your leaving you accept responsibility for the worst culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11. And I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I found that you did not read the cables from Benghazi, you did read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post. I think it’s inexcusable. The thing is that, we can understand that you’re not reading every cable. I can understand that maybe you’re not aware of the cable from the ambassador in Vienna that asked for $100,000 for an electrical charging station. I can understand that maybe you’re not aware that your department spent $100,000 on three comedians who went to India on a promotional tour called “Make Chi Not War,” but I think you might be able to understand and might be aware of the $80 million spent on a consulate in Mazar-i-Sharif that will never be built. I think it’s inexcusable that you did not know about this and did not read these cables.

    Rand Paul has a lot in common with his dad. He goes along making sense and then occasionally takes a hard right turn into Wingnuttia.

  14. Somebody, on January 23, 2013 at 9:29 am said:

    Keep the comments going so we have some idea of what is going on.

    Thanks to those that are watching intently and keeping the rest of us informed about this. We’re doing home school so I can only pop in and out of my bedroom to catch bits here and there. Unfortunately the parts I’ve caught sucked, like Barbara Boxer, barf!

  15. HELENK, on January 23, 2013 at 9:31 am said:

    Hilary looked in to the eyes of the families of the Benghazi dead and lied to them. That should never be forgotten
    That action made me realize that I could never vote for her again. The taking of the job as SOS for backtrack disappointed me, but I could understand how she would want to keep her name viable for 2016.
    the lying is unforgivable

  16. driguana, on January 23, 2013 at 9:37 am said:

    from myiq earlier…
    “Hillary is a career politician. She is one of the best, but she is still a politician.”
    And that’s the problem….because if Obama is good at any one thing, it is politics. But our future is not about politics, it is about leadership.
    None of these people exhibit real leadership qualities….they are all politicians.
    So this afternoon’s session will be more bluster from more gasbags and this whole event will be forgotten because of “political maneuvers” to make it something that it was not! Unbelievable…and you can bet we are in the minority of Americans who even followed this today and the rest of ‘em will get “the facts” later today from Rachel Madcow…and the glamorous Andrea Bitchall….facts about how abusive the repugnant Republicans were to the ever-so stately Hillary Clinton! What a bizarre bazaar we are all trapped in!
    And some news guy named Moran had the audacity this morning to question Rand Paul’s foreign policy credentials???!!! Wonder if he has the guts to question Obama’s!!
    Well, I’ve got the bumper sticker for Hillary’s 2016 presidential run…
    “I Want Hillary on Top”!!!

    • myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:44 am said:

      because if Obama is good at any one thing, it is politics.

      Actually, he’s not very good at that either. He’s good at self-promotion, which is a skill needed in politics. But he’s a lousy leader.

  17. votermom, on January 23, 2013 at 9:44 am said:
  18. HELENK, on January 23, 2013 at 9:51 am said:

    were the questions for Hillary agreed upon earlier? did she know what they would be? did she have written notes in front of her with the answers?

  19. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 9:52 am said:

    Here’s how I see it:

    Hillary would like to be president. I think she would make a good president. But she has no interest in losing another election. She will not run unless she thinks she can win both the nomination and the general election. So right now she is keeping her options open.

    At this point I cannot say for sure if I would support her or not. It really depends on what happens during the next four years and who else is running.

  22. swanspirit, on January 23, 2013 at 9:58 am said:

    I personally love the way Susan Rice worked so hard with Hillary to get us into Libya , and then went to the United Nations and completely forgot about it by the time she had to go on TV . And then didn’t know anything but what she was told ( we still don’t know by whom specifically )

  23. HELENK, on January 23, 2013 at 9:59 am said:

    GregGutfeld ‏@greggutfeld

    Hearing Summary: Thank you so much for coming; Wow, this is a big problem. Good day.

  24. catarina, on January 23, 2013 at 10:02 am said:

    Catherine Herridge, benghazi story breaker is on w Megan Kelly

  25. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 10:05 am said:

    I added Hillary’s opening statement to the original post.

  26. HELENK, on January 23, 2013 at 10:08 am said:

    http://freebeacon.com/royce-why-were-security-requests-from-benghazi-denied/

    why were security requests from benghazi denied?? The cost would not have been charged to the state dept, they would have been on the DOD

  27. votermom, on January 23, 2013 at 10:14 am said:
  28. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 10:29 am said:
  29. HELENK, on January 23, 2013 at 10:39 am said:

    http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/political/house-votes-to-avert-debt-crisis-allow-government-borrowing-through-may-18-senate-to-ok

    while we were busy with the Benghazi hearing, the house kicked the can down the road allowing the government borrowing through May 18th. senate to ok

  30. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 10:48 am said:

    Salon:

    So what if abortion ends life?

    [...]

    Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.

  31. myiq2xu, on January 23, 2013 at 10:57 am said:

    Round Two posted

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