Who Da Man?

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The counter-culture fantasy

In response to It’s Enough Already:

One reason for the popularity of a creature like Chris Dorner among the Left is that those who control the culture in modern America still love to think of themselves as the counter-culture. Nothing pumps up this fantasy like a heroic “rebel” myth, starring someone who actively went to war against The Man. Some of the less energetic liberals will create a modest buffer of separation, as in the case of Marc Lamont Hill: “Oh, of course I don’t actually condone Dorner’s murders, but I can sympathize with the people who do, and he was such an interesting man with such a thoughtful manifesto, and shouldn’t we pay more attention to the issues he was concerned with…”

It’s really not all that different from an earlier generation mooning over violent Sixties radicals, like Obama pal Bill Ayers. You wouldn’t have to push the average liberal very hard to get them to admit that either (a) they’ve studiously avoided finding out anything about Bill Ayers’ nefarious activities, because they can’t process the idea that the Lightworker would be tight with a domestic terrorist, or (b) they think his domestic terrorism was either no big deal, or actually kinda cool.

Rush Limbaugh’s been on a tear lately about how Obama worshipers don’t hold him accountable for the results of his policies because they love dwelling in a fantasyland where huge, powerful, shadowy, and sinister forces are holding Obama back. They gobble up the speeches where he slams his class-war targets because they actually see the current President of the United States as a plucky underdog in the battle against those targets; his years of failure are “evidence” of the villains’ power and tenacity. Dorner fandom is an outgrowth of that same deep-seated need for liberals to see themselves as rebels speaking Truth to Power; they’re no closer to accepting that the are the Power, and have been for a long time.


I would like to point out the following facts:

1. The Mayor of Los Angeles is Antonio Villaraigosa, a liberal Democrat who is Hispanic-American. In 2009 he selected Charlie Beck, the current chief of the LAPD. The previous chief was selected by Mayor James Hahn, another liberal Democrat.

2. The Governor of California is Jerry Brown, a liberal Democrat.

3. The Attorney General of California is Kamala Harris, a liberal Democrat who is biracial (African-American/Indian-American).

4. The President of the United States is Barack Obama, ostensibly a liberal Democrat. He is also biracial (White/African-American).

5. The Attorney General of the United States is Eric Holder, a liberal Democrat who is also African-American.

But wait! There’s more!

Protesters show support for Christopher Dorner

Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Los Angeles Police Department headquarters downtown Saturday afternoon, holding signs of support for Christopher Dorner, the fired police officer suspected of killing four people.

Those gathered said they were protesting police corruption and the way the massive manhunt for Dorner was conducted. Authorities said Dorner appears to have died from a self-inflected gunshot wound after a shootout with police in Big Bear on Tuesday, ending a deadly rampage that stretched across Southern California.

Protesters said they believed Dorner’s claims that he was unfairly fired from the department in 2009 – grievances described in a lengthy online manifesto that has been attributed to him. Dorner also claimed that he was the victim of racism.

Protesters also said they were appalled by police mistakenly shooting at passengers in two separate trucks in Torrance, wrongly believing Dorner might be in the vehicles. One woman was shot in the back and is still recovering.


I would like to point out the following facts:

6. None of the people killed by Dorner worked for LAPD.

7. The cabin where Dorner died is located in the unincorporated area of San Bernardino County.

8. The City of Los Angeles is located in Los Angeles County.

If you have any remaining doubts about Dorner’s sanity and/or credibility, read this.


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84 Responses to Who Da Man?

  1. yttik says:

    That’s a good article.

    The left, liberals, progressives, whatever you call them, have always been attracted to violent revolutionaries. Even as a lefty, I was aware of that fact. Everyone from Charles Manson to Chairman Mao, from Bill Ayers to Che Guevara, have been viewed as political heroes.

  2. DandyTiger says:

    New Dems and facts don’t mix.

  3. HELENK says:

    will they ever wake up enough to really understand that the people they consider ” rebels” consider them as collateral damage and would kill them in the blink of an eye?
    there “hero” christopher dorner ambushed a unarmed and unsuspecting couple just to hurt the girl’s father. the father had represented in his hearing for lying against a fellow officer.
    The policeman he killed was stopped at red light when their “hero” drove and shot him.

    I often wonder if any student of bomber billy ayers has ever asked him what he thinks of collateral damage and would he consider his students as such.

    I am so sick of idiots who make heroes out of stone cold killers

  4. jeffhas says:

    OK – silent shame:

    Am I the only one who read Dorner’s manifesto and thought he might’ve gotten a raw deal?

    … now, killing people to get attention to your plight is just f’d up in the head… but much of what he says about the LAPD (as someone who lives in the L.A. area and has dealt with them – meaning, NEVER put yourself in a situation where you have to deal with them) seems possible/probable.

    like I said – killing people is f’d up in the head… so I guess everything else he writes needs to be filtered through that f’d up prism… and your points up top are duly noted.

    What we could’ve used were some real journalists – you know, the types that might’ve picked up Dorner’s charges and investigated whether or not they had any merit… BEFORE he went on a killing spree.

    I must still be a bleeding heart liberal.

    • wmcb says:

      LAPD has issues. I think a shooter loses the privilege of having his (perhaps legit) issues addressed when he turns violent.

      I think that the IRS is abusive. However, I will NOT discuss that in the context of the sicko who flew a plane into the IRS building. I think the federal govt is out of control. However, I will not discuss that in the context of Timothy McVeigh.

      I don’t do that because even though those may be real grievances, to use a murderous rampage as the venue to discuss them can’t help but confer some kind of legitimacy on the killer, even if you disavow intent to do so.

      It’s the same reason I don’t discuss women’s safety, and the foolishness of leaving a club at 2 am drunk with a total stranger, in the context of a woman who just got brutally raped. There is simply no way to do that without it being excuse-making for a criminal. You can certainly discuss it at other times, in other contexts. It’s a valid point.

      But right then? No. This is a sick abusive animal. Period. End of discussion.

      • OldCoastie says:

        I agree and you make a very cogent argument.

      • swanspirit says:

        Absolutely . And postal workers and air traffic controllers have issues that need addressed and stressors , as well .Every job comes with their own particular set of problems , but shooting innocents is not the solution , it is a crime .i think the people who encourage these crazy people have lost the boundary between reality and fantasy . .

      • jeffhas says:

        He crossed over into cuckoo-ville… but his ‘manifesto’ (if you want to call it that) strikes me as 80% probable and 20% Cuckoo… the specifics are too many to ignore.

        It’s just a shame that this is the way things have to be – that (cuckoo) people feel they have no other alternative…. (and how did the LAPD not screen out the Cuckoo?)

        Me, I would just move on… I probably would not even be bitter after about 2 days… and the BEST revenge is living well, or better than those that have done you wrong.

    • HELENK says:

      where did the saying ” two wrongs do not make a right” come from?

      the minute he picked up a gun to kill for revenge he was wrong

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      Yes, he probably had real grievances. But he also gave as good as he got in that department. The “n” word episode in the van mentioned in his filing was a perfect example of overkill. Not even getting into the whole “whites can never, ever use the ‘n’ word even though we use it all the time” thing, His reaction at hearing fellow officers using the word was to become aggressively physical. That’s not reasonable.
      He may have been shafted by LAPD, Nothing new about that. Lots and lots of departments are made up mostly of officers shafted by LAPD. His certifications were from the state, not the city, and in full effect anywhere else. That he chose to see it otherwise reflects on his mental state and corroborates LAPD’s premise he was a bad apple.

  5. DandyTiger says:

    What do you call an Obama bill that is actually implemented:

  6. wmcb says:
  7. angienc (D) says:

    “White Hispanic” George Zimmerman is a racist murder and anyone who gives him the benefit of the doubt and/or wants the case to be tried by a court of law following the rules of evidence, especially the presumption of “innocent until proven guilty” is a racist too.

    Mad as a hatter but black Christopher Dorner who allegedly killed 4 people in “revenge” for being fired from the LAPD is a folk hero and anyone who doubts that is a racist.

    Fuck what the left has become.

  8. HELENK says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/17/DNC-Vice-Chair-Brazile-Tolerates-Maher-s-Antisemitic-Rant

    donna brazile on maher’s show toloerates antisemtic rant.

    I remember when the left considered Israel a friend of America

  9. HELENK says:

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/eeoc-federal-crime-convicts/2013/02/15/id/490605?promo_code=12791-1&s=al#ixzz2L1AlPDMD

    now if you do not hire ex cons you are racist and the feds will sue you.

    i do not know if I would open any business in this country right now. the government is becoming the businessman’s biggest enemy

  10. wmcb says:
  11. HELENK says:

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/02/11/president-obama-would-you-send-a-drone-to-cuba-to-kill-the-weathermen/?singlepage=true

    maybe this is why there are so many uninformed thinking that people like dornen are heroes. Look what is teaching them.
    bomber billy ayers and bernie dorn

  12. HELENK says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/02/17/LA-Times-Questions-LAPD-Over-Burning-House

    LA Times questions LAPD over burning house. Maybe they would have like a longer hail of bullets with more cops getting killed.

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      Somewhere, somehow, I thought the house that burned during a tear gas raid in Los Angeles where Dorner died, mentioned by the LAT, was a cabin high up in the mountains of rural San Bernardino County where the local sheriff’s office was conducting the operation, and at the time the nearest LA police officer in charge of anything was about 60 miles away, but I must be wrong because a real, professional newspaper wouldn’t have their facts wrong, would they?

      • HELENK says:

        it is a lot of fun when this rag tries to sell me a subscription. When I explain that paying for stenography instead of real reporting, upsets them a tad

      • 49erDweet (D) says:

        OK, gotta backtrack on this one. While reading the comments on Breitbart discovered LAT did not specifically mention LAPD for criticism on this. That “assumption” apparently is on Brietbart and/or their author, William Bigelow. Gotta ding ‘em on it. Crow this time of day tastes pooey@#!.

  13. HELENK says:

    http://terrellaftermath.com/

    my first vote was for JFK. the democrats have really gone down hill since then

  14. wmcb says:

    Talking with a friend on facebook about Monsanto and seed patents. He’s of the opinion that patents on seeds and plants should be illegal.

    I think that this really isn’t all that difficult to solve.

    I don’t have a problem with shorter term patents. I do understand that if you put a ton of time, money, and research into developing, say, a plant resistant to a disease, then you *should* get rewarded for that.

    OTOH, what would have happened in the history of the human race if the person who invented the wheel, or electricity, been able to have sole patent to it forever? That’s dumb. Give them a short-term patent to recoup the investment. That’s fair. Then let scientific advances be public domain. We do this with drugs, why not seeds?

    • DandyTiger says:

      Agree. It would also be nice if the patent office could actually tell the difference between something novel and something 50 years old. Currently they don’t have a clue. What they approve is arbitrary at best, and so everything is settled with expensive litigation. Which means the little guy hasn’t a chance in hell.

      • wmcb says:

        The reason why we have limited patents for drugs is so that something necessary for the human race doesn’t become the sole property of one person/company forever and ever. I think our food supply falls into that category as well. No solution is going to be perfect or without its attendant problems. And no, I have zero problem with agribusiness making shitloads of money from their research and products. We just need a middle ground, here.

    • Well, there’s another caveat here, and that’s an exceptions for seeds doing what seeds will do, which is spread by wind. Why should some farmer who is not using the seeds be penalized because no one can control wind-spreading? Yet that’s what happens. Monsanto and other companies will sue a farmer for having one plant from their seed, or a half-row on the edge of the field. That is effed up.

  15. HELENK says:

    http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/gas/

    since gas is going up again thought I would post this site again

  16. yttik says:

    I’ve always been against violence and peace loving, but when I was a liberal and a Dem, I could over look the worship of these psychos. It always set my teeth on edge, but I could understand how they had a good manifesto and a good cause. Later when I realized that we really do live in a democracy and have no moral right to force our ideas and opinions on others, I grew less tolerant. The price we pay for genuine freedom, for a government of the people, for the people, is that often morons wind up in charge. We get bureaucracy and asinine policies, not because we’re victims of oppression or fascism, but because we truly do have a representative government. The problem of course, is that a true democracy gives a voice to lowest common denominator and that’s what we’re going to get about half the time. (Or maybe two thirds of the time. I think our best and brightest have been too busy to vote lately.)

    Anyway, I have no desire to change the world anymore. I think somebody discovered that back in the 60′s and wrote a song about it, but darned if I can remember. Something about how we need to stop trying to fix the world because it isn’t broken.

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      For those of us living in humongous states like California it’s a finer point, but I’ve always understood that we are supposed to be living in a Democratic Republic, not a Democracy. Except that some folk much smarter than the rest of us haven’t liked that idea and instead have been pushing the “Democracy” meme.
      That’s an attractive idea. What’s not to love about “democracy”? Except for the minor wrinkle that a benevolent democracy can take from those that work and give to those who don’t, what else could possibly go wrong?
      The fact is we currently have a national government that doesn’t work. We haven’t had a budget for over four years, and none of us believe our deficit (debt) can be eliminated during the lifetimes of our current voters. Maybe the Democratic Republic idea wasn’t that bad, after all. I’d have no objections if Illinois, for instance, wanted Obambam as their head guy. It’s just the way it is now the other 49 states are being held hostage, too.

    • 49erDweet (D) says:

      I could agree with the one commentator who thought it reprehensible to “allow” a rude citizen to be attend the SOTU address. Except it’s only if the rude person is conservative, of course. Otherwise it’s OK when our betters do it. That whole bunch had their panties in a twist.

  17. 49erDweet (D) says:

    …shedding tears for our poor, beleaguered, downtrodden, put-upon hyper-professional national press corps – who really only wanted to see some golfer named Woods, but that’s not important.

  18. 49erDweet (D) says:

    Breitbart headline: “MCCAIN HAMMERS NBC’s GREGORY: ‘DO YOU CARE? SHOULDN’T People BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DEATHS OF FOUR AMERICANS?’” Apparently progs feel the similar toward both Benghazi and Southern California.

  19. SHV says:

    Don’t know who this person is but:

    “HEBER SPRINGS, Ark. (KTHV) – Several sources are reporting country singer Mindy McCready was found dead Sunday from an apparent suicide.

    She was 37. ”

    yesterday her boyfriend/partner died

    “HEBER SPRINGS, Ark. (CNN/KTHV) – Songwriter and producer, David Wilson, died Sunday night. He was the partner of country singer Mindy McCready and the father of one of her children.

    Details of his death are not known at this time, however a worker at the Cleburne County Sheriff’s Office confirmed its agency is working the case. McCready has a home in Heber Springs.”

    Sounds like sequential suicides.

  20. mothy67 says:

    Sunday Crossword clue– Pastime for BO at Camp David
    Answer– Skeet
    pathetic

  21. wmcb says:

    I am PISSED OFF at Downton Abbey.

    • yttik says:

      LOL! A while back I had to stop watching it. It was just too silly, hubby would ask me what was wrong three days later and I’d have to tell him, “I’m just pissed off about Downton Abby!”

    • swanspirit says:

      Me too ..REALLY PISSED NO NEED!!!!!!Dammit

      • wmcb says:

        I seriously doubt I’ll bother with season 4. Losing both those characters in one season gutted the show, IMO. Not because they were my favorites, but because so much of the ongoing storyline linked to them. I could give a crap about this new Rose. I doubt I’ll watch anymore.

        • swanspirit says:

          My thought exactly , Rose is totally uninteresting

        • nerdle says:

          If you’re interested, you should check out Call the Midwife. It’s a British mini-series set during the late 50s. The cast is very strong and is basically about the girls who work as midwives and the nuns of the convent, and how they deal with with the poor medical conditions in East London.

          I lost interest with the show with how they handled Edith. What they did to her character was just so simple; it was artistically empty.

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