Cuz it’s better to get raped than use a gun


You can’t make this shit up. Dana Loesch:

Colorado Democrat: Women Don’t Need Guns If They ‘Feel Like They’re Going To Be Raped’

Chill, women, says Colorado Democrat Rep. Joe Salazar. While arguing for the disarmament of college students, Salazar says that even if women feel like they’re going to be raped, they may not, so who needs a firearm for protection?

[...]

Said Salazar:

“It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.”

This is the real “war on women” I’ve talked about: the progressive insistence that women disarm. Women, according to Rep. Salazar, are hysterical things which shoot indiscriminately at any and everything.


The Feminist Fauxrage League immediately erupted in outraged silence and demanded nothing.

No, seriously – not one peep from the left, although Salazar later non-apology apologized “if (he) offended anyone”.

But wait! There’s more!

*UPDATE #2: via Erickson and Jesse Byrnes, this is advice the University of Colorado gives to women to repel attackers. If an attacker isn’t grossed out enough over the prospect of raping/beating/murdering a woman, it’s doubtful that any of this will do the trick:

Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.
Don’t take time to look back; just get away.
If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.
Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.
Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.
Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!
Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm.
Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.


Notice that aggressive self defense is not encouraged. By “aggressive self defense” I am referring to techniques like “Pepper spray to the eyes followed by a knee to the testicles”, “stab him repeatedly with a knife until he bleeds out on the floor” and my personal favorite “keep shooting him until he stops moving”.

Which brings me to another point. A gun is not a magic wand. Do not wave one around or think it makes you all-powerful. If you choose to arm yourself with a gun (even just to keep one at home) please follow the following advice:

1. Learn how to use it. Find somebody who knows guns and have them teach you. Take a gun safety course. Go to a range and practice. Learn how to load it, unload it, reload it, remove the safety (if applicable) and how to shoot it. Make sure you keep it clean and oiled.

2. Store it in a safe but easily accessible place. You want to keep it away from kids but at the same time if you ever need it you’ll probably need it in a hurry.

3. Do not pull it unless you are in fear of your life or the lives of your family. Don’t brag about having a gun. Let it be a surprise.

4. If you pull it, use it. Don’t expect one bullet to do the trick. You may have to shoot him several times. Keep shooting until the bad guy a)runs way, b) gives up and begs for mercy or c) ceases all life functions. In the case of option (b) be ready to start shooting again. It ain’t over till it’s over.

5. Last but not least – DO NOT GREET THE POLICE WITH IT STILL IN YOUR HAND! When cops respond to a “shots fired” call their adrenaline tends to run a little high. Until they sort things out be careful and cooperative.


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100 Responses to Cuz it’s better to get raped than use a gun

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Personal note:

    I am feeling a lot better but that cold took a lot out of me so I have been sleeping a lot. Thanks to all of you who were worried and concerned. It is really is nice to know someone cares.

    I appreciate all the advice (even if I don’t take it).

  2. glad you’re bouncing back!!! Being sick didn’t affect your excellent writing in the least. Keep drinking lots of fluids (preferably chicken soup) and get your rest.

  3. Funny on the disease menstruating part. They left out the part where the rapist then attempts oral rape and the woman bites it off.

  4. angienc (D) says:

    Also, I’ve been seeing the following NRA standard rules on guns on Twitter/blogs yesterday in response to that idiot David Frum asking “Why doesnt every gun automatically indicate whether there’s a bullet in the chamber?”

    1. Assume all guns are always loaded.

    2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.

    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

    4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

    • That’s how I learned it, and what I taught my daughter.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Yep, #4 is called taking a responsible shot. Same with hunting and target practice. Always have in mind the long line the bullet will take whether you miss or it goes through the target.

      Don’t forget the general rule for self defense: I’d rather be alive and have legal issues about defending myself than the alternative.

      • 49erDweet (D) says:

        And then there’s it being cheaper on taxpayers to summon the mortuary call wagon than the hospital ambulance factor.

  5. gxm17 says:

    I agree with his main point (we shouldn’t settle confrontations with excessive force) but I also agree that it was sexist to only single women out. There are too many cases where a gun was the last thing needed in a confrontation, like this one: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94811&page=1

    I have used my cell phone twice to scare away aggressive drivers. All I had to do was hold it up so they could see it and start dialing.

    Also, they should amend their advice, don’t just scream, scream “fire.” It’s more likely bystanders will do something. At the very least, they’ll call the Fire Department. Here’s an especially sad case of someone crying for help and being ignored: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-11-04/opinions/35282620_1_apple-store-employees-surveillance-video-brutal-murder

    • angienc (D) says:

      First of all, it is already illegal, in every.single.jurisidction. in all 50 states to use “excessive” force.

      Second of all this:

      There are too many cases where a gun was the last thing needed in a confrontation, like this one: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94811&page=1

      is a bullshit example (as usual) to argue for gun control — the woman got out of her car — where she was in NO DANGER — walked over to the other car & shot the other woman. She didn’t panic, grab a gun laying around and accidentally killed someone or herself — she was deliberate, showed NO REMORSE at the trial (she insisted her actions were justified) and she got too light of a sentence with her ridiculous “road rage” excuse. If she hadn’t had a gun, she would have used a knife or a tire iron because that woman was crazy. (Google road rage and tire iron — there’s a ton of those).

      You can’t stop crazy and people need to start taking personal responsibility instead of blaming tools or we’ll have to ban tire irons and knives next — those are the “last things needed in a confrontation” too.

      • votermom says:

        I vaguely remember hearing about this back when it happened. 13 years is way to lenient. She sounds like a sociopath, imo.

        FWIW, I drive very defensively & politely precisely because I never know who might be carrying and be wacko.
        “An armed society is a polite society.”

        On tire irons, back in my old country, where there is gun control, one of the women executives (slim, always dressed fashionable in heels, very feminine) came into work one day talking about how this aggressive driver picked a fight with her and she got out of the car holding her big-ass steering wheel lock that used to be popular. He drove away. LOL.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        Baseball Bats too. :)

      • gxm17 says:

        I understand your point but I’m of the opinion that it makes more sense to dial it back, not amp it up. What are we going to do when everyone’s armed and how you fare in a confrontation depends on how fast you can draw and how well you can hit your target? It seems like a huge step backwards to me.

        • wmcb says:

          An armed society is a polite society. There is too much evidence that most areas with high rates of gun ownership have much lower rates of many kinds of crime.

          More guns = more violence makes zero sense, unless you believe that the majority of people are violent creatures, only restrained from doing violence by inability to get their hands on a weapon. Gun control laws have no effect on criminals bent on violence. And access to guns has no effect on people not inclined to violence. Gun control disarms the non-violent, leaving guns only in the hands of those who could care less about the law.

          If we lived in a magical world where ALL guns could be made to *poof* disappear, it might make sense. But we don’t. The only question is WHO are you disarming? Which group? The violent or the responsible?

        • angienc (D) says:

          What are we going to do when everyone’s armed and how you fare in a confrontation depends on how fast you can draw and how well you can hit your target?

          We’ll separate the wheat from the chafe.

          In all seriousness, what we have here is a failure to communicate — you point to a story, claiming it is an example (as in, there are “too many stories like this”) of something that is common and imply that people somewhere are arguing IN FAVOR of using “excessive force;” I explain to you it is a bullshit example & state the plain fact that the use of excessive force is ALREADY ILLEGAL so you are starting from a false premise; and you then claim you are only arguing we need to dial it back — (as if, btw, anyone is saying we need to amp it up — same false premise as your “excessive force” one) based on that same bullshit example.

          So no — you don’t understand my point. Maybe now you will. I kind of doubt it, but I’ll try once more: there is a neutral, agreed upon document that sets out free people’s rights to keep and bear arms because they — not the government — have the basic responsibility and right to protect & provide for themselves, their families and their property. If you think in your wisdom it should be changed then get cracking passing an Amendment to that document, but don’t fool yourself — you are arguing in favor of giving the government more power to control your life and yourself less power. You think guns are “scary” things (despite the fact that FBI stats show that gun related violence has been trending down in the USA in the last few years AND that bats & knifes are used in far more homicides per year than guns — but you don’t like information that might actually INFORM your opinion) so you’re OK with that. But don’t cry to me when the next government/progressive cause célèbre “for the great good” is for women is for us to wear burkhas and not leave their homes without a male relative as an escort. You think the government cares about you — good luck with that.

  6. votermom says:

    Tweeted this post with the (trending) hashtag #LiberalTips2AvoidRape

    The extreme left has always believed that a woman is property, and as such, belongs to the party. She is public property. Spread your legs and think of the common good, comrade walking-vagina!

  7. votermom says:

    Gas prices are at a record high for this time of year.

  8. myiq2xu says:
  9. wmcb says:

    The “feminist” left is insane. I actually had several tell me last night that demanding that women who WANT to have a gun to defend themselves should be allowed to do so is……

    Wait for it….

    Victim blaming. I am not kidding. This is the sick shit they are saying.

    See, if we allow women who want to choose to defend themselves to do that, then women who don’t like guns but get raped will feel guilty that they weren’t armed, like it was their fault. That’s the twisted logic they use.

    Seriously. All women must lie back and allow themselves to get raped out of solidarity with other rape victims. It’s just not fair if some women (who are capable and wish to do so) fight back with a gun.

    WAAAAAHHH!! Your desire to defend yourself is harshing the mellow of my victimhood! We must all be victims together, ladies! How DARE you not be a victim, and thus cast aspersions on my victimhoom! So come be a Julia and join the Sisterhood of the Victim Cult, you evil misogynist RWNJ you.

    It’s dsgusting. These women quite literally cannot conceive of any existence outside of a hive mind collective. Individual independent action, even in the act of defending yourself from rape, must be crushed at all costs, because it frightens and disturbs them that a woman might be powerful all by her little self, outside the collective.

  10. yttik says:

    ” …And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.”

    There has always been a very sexist idea that women may not know their own minds. This is true when it comes to abortion, rape, or the right to carry a gun. You must be closely supervised and regulated because you might, you know, have a hormonal swing or something, and make an irrational decision. This moron said, “you might FEEL like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be.” Always, always, there is this concern that women may just be confused about rape, confused about when they are in danger, confused about terminating a pregnancy. We sort of have the right to defend ourselves, but society is terrified we might go from defense to offense on some whim.

    • votermom says:

      I’ve been discussing this same point with some very outraged conservative women on twitter.
      Salazar is an old-fashioned sexist pig.

    • wmcb says:

      Just the other day I got that rapey feeling in Target when some dude looked at me funny, and I went pop pop pop and took out three cashiers. Because we women do that.

      We really can’t be trusted to get gun training and be capable of recognizing a real threat. Hormones, you know. Hysteria. Who knows what or who I’ll shoot when those random “feeling like I might get raped” feelings strike?

    • Yup. “Wear heels and ignore your instincts.” What women have been taught for centuries now, though at times the “heels” may have been foot bindings or long, layered skirts. Whatever it is that prevents women from running or otherwise protecting themselves.

      • Can’t I stab him with the heels? In the eye?
        Of course, that is after I give him a swift kick in the nuts with the same heels, causing him to fall to the ground.
        See, then I can run over his face, with the heels, puncturing his brain.

        Must have been my hysteria made me do it!

    • votermom says:

      Btw, I’m willing to bet that Salazar is one of those dudes who nag and guilt and harass women into providing sex. That’s why he’s so defensive about “feeling you’re gonna be raped”.
      Pig.

  11. HELENK says:

    Sen. McConnell: ‘President Obama still prefers campaign events to common sense, bipartisan action’ – @NBCNews

  12. HELENK says:

    fools like that are one reason many rapes are not reported. If you defend your self you are wrong, If you do not defend your self you asked for it. Since he does not women to defend themselves with a gun, would he be alright with Lorenna Bobbit classes and ginsue circumcision knives for all women?

  13. wmcb says:

    One of the most subtle and insidious effects of teaching women that their only empowerment lies in the collective, in the unified chorus of whining about nonsense such the use of the word “panties”, is this:

    When you are face to face, all alone, with a real live woman hater, you cease being able to function. I’m not talking only about rapists – I’m talking about the sneering guy in the copy room who is nasty to you in the corridor when no one is around.

    Yes, there is safety in numbers. And it’s not that that doesn’t have its place. But not to the exclusion of individual empowerment. Otherwise, women will forever be the gazelles in a world of lions.

    I’d prefer women be taught to run with the herd when prudent, but not be afraid to also be lions in our own right when there is nary another gazelle in sight.

    • yttik says:

      I really do believe that women tend to be TOO collective. I don’t know if it’s nurture or nature or the culture at large, but one of our downfalls is the inability to focus on individual empowerment. Of course there are variations, but if men discover their pants are too tight, the tend to buy bigger pants. Women have to have this conversation with themselves that involves 75 other people, “I’m growing my mother’s thighs,” “what will people think of me now that I’ve gained a few pounds,” etc etc, all the way back to middle school and all the things you heard about the proper size you should be. Now days we’ve got the First Lady’s opinion in there, too. It’s now a matter of national security and you need to take the good of the country into consideration, too.

  14. HELENK says:

    after reading this again, got the feeling this guy is scared of women. Ever notice these men always tell the women not to act and hurt the guy.

  15. votermom says:

    via Uppity, from 2008, 911 call of woman who shot a stalker who invaded her home

    • yttik says:

      You know, if men like him are scared of trigger happy armed women, they’re welcome to stay off the streets at night, avoid women, be careful how they dress and act, always travel in groups, try not to look vulnerable, keep their cell phones close, carry a whistle, be aware of their surroundings at all times, never stray far from a call box, try to wet their pants or vomit on themselves to discourage an attack, etc, etc….

  16. HELENK says:

    off topic

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/outrageous-tsa-assaults-and-harasses-crippled-three-year-old-girl-in-wheelchair-video/

    why are we allowing this in our country. since when should a parent have to stand down and watch their kid be molested and abused by some government worker pervert. no child should have to go through this and no parent should have to allow it

    • HELENK says:

      this little girl just learned that someone can touch you and your parents or you can do nothing to stop them.
      future rape victim?????

  17. One more reason not to watch NBC or MSNBC. It’s official- Axelrove will now be drawing a paycheck from them. Going to be much easier for him to control the talking points directly instead of from gangster town.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/axelrod-nbc-analyst-161519029–election.html#

  18. votermom says:

    he he he Pat Dollard goes there

  19. votermom says:

    This is the funniest argument I’ve seen on twitter in some time

  20. wmcb says:

    According to CNN, the Sandy Hook predator deliberately picked himself a nice fat pen of staked goats, aka “gun free zone”. Who could have forseen that?

    According to the sources, the 20-year-old Lanza wanted to top Breivik’s death toll and went to the Connecticut school on December 14 because it was the “easiest target” and had the “largest cluster of people.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/19/justice/connecticut-newtown-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

  21. votermom says:
    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m loving this thread and the great tweets! Two things that popped in my mind that I haven’t seen addressed.

      1. Many rape victims are also murdered.
      2. Kill the rapist or kill his (possibly resulting) baby ?

      Salazar didn’t think this through. Idiot.

  22. HELENK says:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/total_destruction_of_the_us_an_interview_with_larry_grathwohl_part_1.html

    I have believed this for a long time.

    what bomber billy ayers could not do with a bomb, he is doing with obama

  23. HELENK says:

    http://www.theblaze.com/storie

    a giant WTF you have to be kidding

    Mexico wants a registry of all US gun owners in states near their border

  24. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/19/obama-federal-prosecutors-will-let-criminals-go-if-sequester-cuts-go-through/

    today’s backtrack threat if sequester cuts go through.

    yesterday it was lead paint

    today criminals go free.

    should we start keeping a running list of all the horrible things backtrack says will happen due to HIS sequester???

  25. HELENK says:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/all_downhill_for_obama_gals_9LrvaG628avMBcpShdZ80K

    while everyone was talking about backtrack’s golf vacation, meeeeschele did not do so bad on the spending and inconveniencing everone in Aspen

  26. foxyladi14 says:

    Obama will oblige them too., watch!!! :roll:

  27. angienc (D) says:

    So I told my mom about the idiotic “urinate and vomit on yourself” suggestions to protect yourself from rape and she said “What’s next? State issued chastity belts?”

  28. angienc (D) says:

    Even better:

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