When Did The Tea Party Admit They Were Racist?


Daily Caller:

Former NAACP head: Tea party ‘admittedly racist,’ ‘Taliban wing of American politics’

On Tuesday’s broadcast of Thomas Robert’s 11 a.m. MSNBC program, NAACP President Emeritus Julian Bond defended the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of tea party groups, which he described as “admittedly racist.”

“I think it’s entirely legitimate to look at the tea party,” said Bond, whose group was audited by the IRS during the Bush administration. “I mean, here are a group of people who are admittedly racist, who are overtly political, who’ve tried as best they can to harm President Obama in every way they can. I don’t think there are correct parallels between these incidents. It was wrong for the IRS to behave in this heavy-handed manner. They didn’t explain it well before or now what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. But there are no parallels between these two.”

Roberts asked Bond if he thought these revelations might revive the tea party, which has seen its influence decline since the 2010 midterm elections.

“I hope not,” he replied. “I hope they don’t get any more air. You know, they are the Taliban wing of American politics and we all ought to be a little worried about them.”

Roberts asked if comparing the tea party to the Taliban was “a little harsh,” but Bond declined to back off his remarks.

“Not at all — the truth may hurt, but it’s the truth,” Bond said.


Maybe I was drunk that day, but I don’t recall the Tea Party admitting they were racist. Anybody got a link on that?

This story is really disappointing. When a prominent civil rights leader endorses denying someone their civil rights it is very disturbing. Freedom of speech and freedom of association are both civil rights. So is the right to equal protection under the law.

I don’t believe that the Tea Party is racist, even if some of their members probably are. Put together a large group of people and you’ll find a few nutjobs in the mix. Even if they were, racism is odious but it’s not illegal.

The government cannot discriminate based on ideology or viewpoint. As long as they break no laws we have to tolerate people and groups whose beliefs we find disgusting. When they break the law we punish those specific offenses and no more.

I am really sick of the notion that freedom and civil rights are only for people we agree with. I hope Bond’s comments do not represent a new, “non-defensive” use of the race card.


Occupy Tea Party?


Sean Hannity is not happy with Dingy Harry:

Outrageous! Harry Reid blames Tea Party

In a debate over sequestration cuts on the Senate floor yesterday, Democrat Harry Reid felt the need to blame the tea party. He actually compared the tea party to anarchists, saying that they were different in that they are not violent but they don’t believe in government at any level. Harry Reid notes that the tea party doesn’t say it is against government, but then he goes on to say that this is basically what it amounts to.

But that’s not all! Harry Reid then went on to say the following: “They’re not doing physically destructive things to buildings and people, directly, but they are doing everything they can to throw a monkey-wrench into every form of government … that’s what it’s all about.” Reid continues, “Government is not inherently bad; Government is inherently good. That’s why we have a Constitution and that’s what we direct the activities of this government based upon.”

Government is inherently good? Tea partiers are like anarchists, they don’t believe in government? While tea partiers don’t do physical destruction “directly,” they are trying to destroy our government and its proper process? This is the level of rhetoric we are getting from Democrats nowadays.


Let’s see, since the inception of the Tea Party we have seen an enormous growth in government spending, including the Stimulus and Obamacare. So exactly what are they doing to destroy government?

Voting?

I have news for Dingy Harry – our Founding Fathers considered government a necessary evil. Evil is the opposite of good. That’s why they wrote the Constitution – a guarantee of limited government. Which is what the Tea Partiers want.

What I find really amusing is the idea that Tea Partiers are like anarchists. Anarchists founded the Occupy Wall Street movement. So far no Tea Partiers have been arrested for trying to blow shit up, the cops haven’t had to bust up any Tea Party rallies and they don’t have rape tents at Tea Parties.

Meanwhile, Joe the Talking Ass has done it again:

Biden calls Boston bombing suspects ‘knock-off jihadis’

Obama administration officials waded into the Boston Marathon bombing attacks, forcing others in the administration to beat a hasty retreat Wednesday.

Speaking at a memorial service for slain MIT officer Sean Collier, Vice President Joe Biden issued some harsh words for the suspects of the terrorist attack, calling them “two twisted, perverted, cowardly, knock-off jihadis.”

The Obama administration quickly moved away from that assessment, with White House Press Secretary Jay Carney refusing to speculate on jihadi motivations for the attack.

“There’s an investigation under way. We know some things. There’s a lot more to learn, and that’s why the investigation is taking place,” Carney said in response to a reporter’s questions on Biden’s comments.


While it is generally bad form for top government officials to make such comments about on-going criminal cases, what I want to know is what is so fake about real bombs, real bullets and real dead bodies?


Is Riverdaughter A Closeted Tea Partier?


No, seriously.

Check out her latest:

Then there was a new Poll Tax that was used to raise revenue for new wars. Ahhh, the military industrial complex of the middle ages. Some things never change. The tax was harsher on some peasants than others. Women were especially hard hit for some reason, regardless of their employment status or hardships. The King’s ministers probably just eliminated some deductions and futzed with the cost of living adjustments or something. They probably had their own Bowles-Simpson commission.

So, the peasants revolted.

[...]

Oh, look! Tim Geithner is telling us that we’re going to get nailed again. Isn’t it swell that those of us who have given up a good portion of our skins are now going to be completely flayed? Remind me to review how much in income taxes and social security taxes I’ve paid in the past 10 years. I think we all need to pull out our tax returns and report on this. Why should my kid be penalized by these spending cuts after the decades of taxes I have paid into my social insurance policies and all of the other things I expected from my hard earned money?

How come we paid so much money and have so little control over how it gets spent? Why can’t we decide to spend that money on *ourselves* and not some stupid war or a giant border fence or Alabama? Why am I, a New Jerseyan, spending so much money per year on states in the south who insist on electing selfish, aristocratic hardasses to Congress? Why am I forced to participate in my own oppression? Will someone answer me that?


That sure sounds a lot like Tea Party rhetoric to me. She is also big on populism. Is there secretly a Tea Partier hidden inside of Riverdaughter, yearning to breathe free? That sure would explain her over-the-top hatred of that group. After all, the worst homophobes are gays in denial of their sexuality.

Go for it Kim, let your Gadsden Flag fly!


Say what?

Via Althouse, here’s a snippet from a letter by Jim Messina, Campaign Manager for Obama for America re Iowa:

The extremist Tea Party agenda won a clear victory. No matter who the Republicans nominate, we’ll be running against someone who has embraced that agenda in order to win — vowing to let Wall Street write its own rules, end Medicare as we know it, roll back gay rights, leave the troops in Iraq indefinitely, restrict a woman’s right to choose, and gut Social Security to pay for more tax cuts for millionaires and corporations.


I’ve been paying attention to the Tea Party since it first emerged from the astroturf laboratory of Dick Armey. Even before it turned into a grassroots coalition and ran amok, it has never been about abortion, gay rights or Iraq.

I got this from the Tea Party Express website:

The Tea Party Express is proud to stand for six simple principles

No more bailouts
Reduce the size and intrusiveness of government
Stop raising our taxes
Repeal Obamacare
Cease out-of-control spending
Bring back American prosperity


Tea Party Patriots:

Tea Party Patriots does not have a foreign policy. We have three core principles: fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government, and free market solutions.


That’s two of the largest Tea Party organizations. There are several major groups and lots more little ones. Nobody speaks for all of them, but the common thread among them all is the idea of smaller government and lower taxes.

The Tea Partiers don’t like Wall Street, and they want government to keep its hands off of Social Security and Medicare. The Tea Party members are mostly conservative Republicans and independents, which means they tend to support conservative positions on issues like abortion and gay rights. But those are not Tea Party issues.

I’m not a Tea Partier. I’ve never had any interest in joining up or participating with any or the TP groups. That’s because I disagree with them on almost every issue.

On the other hand, I respect their right to assemble and petition for redress of grievances, and I admire their effectiveness. I don’t think Tea Partiers are evil, bad, stupid, ignorant or racist. They are generally good people who have DIFFERENT beliefs, and they have just as much right to them as we do to ours.

Here’s what so many people fail to grasp:

In a democratic system, when bad laws are passed (or good laws repealed) IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD!

Let’s say the Republicans managed to end Social Security. What would happen?

Within a very short time they would either reinstate it or replace it with something similar. If they didn’t they would be replaced in the next election by people who would.

Our history shows that sooner or later the party in power will be out of power and vice versa. In my lifetime there have been eleven different presidents and control of the White House has changed hands between the parties six times. In 1992 the Democrats had the White House and both houses of Congress. In 2002 the Republicans held full control. In 2008 the Democrats were in charge again. For most of my life the parties have shared power with one holding the White House and the other holding Congress.

Somehow we’ve managed to survive.



So close, yet so far


Jefferson Morley at Salon:

In his new book, “Pity the Billionaire,” Tom Frank turns his mordant eye on the unlikeliest political development of the Obama presidency: how the crash of 2008 served to strengthen the political right. The deregulation of Wall Street, championed for 30 years by right-wing leaders, had led to an economic catastrophe so frightening that the country elected a liberal Democrat to the presidency. Yet two years later, the most conservative faction of the Republican Party, the Tea Party, had taken effective control of the House of Representatives, the regulation of Wall Street had stalled, and the champions of economic deregulation in Washington had emerged stronger than ever.

Frank, author of the bestselling book “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” provides a pithy and nuanced explanation of what he calls the “hard-times swindle.” He spoke with Salon from his father’s home in Kansas City, Mo.


As you can see, the whole article goes off track early with “the country elected a liberal Democrat to the presidency.” You might expect that whatever follows that is probably not gonna be accurate.

Early in the book, you describe the moment in the spring of 2009 when free-market economics had been so thoroughly discredited that Newsweek could run a cover story proclaiming, “We’re all socialists now.” What happened? Why did that moment dissipate?

I saw that cover so many times [at Tea Party events]. For these people, that rang the alarm bell. I think the AIG moment [when the bailed-out insurance behemoth used taxpayer relief to dole out huge bonuses to its executives] was in some ways the high point of the crisis, when [the politics] could have gone either way. There was this amazing public outrage, and that for me was the turning point. Newsweek had another cover, “Thinking Man’s Guide to Populism,” and I remember this feeling around the country, that people were just furious. Somehow the right captured the sense of anger. They completely captured it. You could say they had no right to it, but they did. And one of the reasons they were able to do it was because the liberals were not interested in that anger.

I’m speaking here of the liberal culture in Washington, D.C. There was no Occupy Wall Street movement [at that time] and there was only people like me on the fringes talking about it. The liberals had their leader in Barack Obama … they had their various people in Congress. But these people are completely unfamiliar with populist anger. It’s an alien thing to them. They don’t trust it, and they have trouble speaking to it. I like Barack Obama, but at the end of the day he’s a very professorial kind of guy. The liberals totally missed the opportunity, and the right was able to grab it.


Obama and the Democrats had the opportunity to catch a wave. We never believed his Hopenchange™ horseshit, but many people did. If he had done the right things he might have even persuaded some of us. All he had to do was channel the popular anger at the targets that deserved it.

They didn’t even use the bailout as leverage to break-up the TBTF banks and force them to accept new financial regulations. They just gave it away, no strings attached.

Looking back on it, I feel like people like myself were part of the problem. We sort of assumed with the Democrats in power, the system would correct itself.

One of the problems with liberalism in this country is that it’s headquartered in Washington and its leaders are a very comfortable class of people. Washington is one of the richest cities in the country, maybe the richest. It’s not a place that feels the crisis, that feels the economic downturn. By and large, the real estate market stayed OK. The city continued to boom. The contracts continued to flow. What we’re talking about here is the failure of modern liberalism. At one time it was a movement of working-class people. The idea that liberals wouldn’t feel economic pain was ridiculous. That’s who liberals were. No more.


“Comfortable” is not the word I would use. I would use “corrupt.”

That’s why Obama and the Democrats failed. They are corrupt.

A bail-out with no strings. A stimulus that rewarded contributors but failed to stimulate. Financial regulations that don’t regulate. Healthcare reform that created a windfall for health insurance companies but didn’t reform health care. Crony capitalism.

The problem in this country isn’t the Tea Party. It isn’t the Occupiers either. They are both a reaction to the problem.

The Tea Party was created as an astroturf organization to channel right-wing anger at Obama and the Democrats. It turned on its creators and attacked the Republicans.

OWS was created as an astroturf organization to channel left-wing anger away from Obama and the Democrats. It succeeded.

Neither the Tea Party nor OWS has done much to change any minds. The red states are still red and the blue states are still blue. They are never gonna agree on most issues. But they both agree on a couple key things.

Both the Tea Party and the majority of OWS want responsive government. They want their elected representatives in Congress to keep their campaign promises. Sure, they voted for different candidates and different promises, but the principle is the same.

Both the Tea Party and the majority of OWS want to end crony capitalism. They might say it differently, but they both want the same thing. They are tired of seeing their tax dollars going to campaign contributors. Neither side likes Wall Street. They want their votes to count.

You would think some smart people would use those facts to make a change.

But now the Tea Party is busy trying to select a candidate to defeat Obama. When the Occupiers start up again in the spring they will be busy trying to defeat the Republicans. Meanwhile the crony capitalists will be laughing all the way to their banks.


Infidels and heretics


GOP senator says Tea Party challenges ‘killed off’ efforts at Republican majority

Sen. Dick Lugar (Ind.) facing a primary contest from the right in his reelection bid said past Tea Party-backed challenges had “killed off” Republican efforts to take the Senate in the past and could undermine a GOP majority again in 2012.

“A Republican majority in the Senate is very important, and Republicans who are running for reelection ought to be supported by people who want to see that majority,” Lugar said in an interview which aired Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union.

“I think the majority of Tea Party people understand that too,” he added.

Lugar who is facing a tough primary challenge from Tea Party-backed Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock (R) said he was the best GOP option to win the seat and that past attempts by grassroots groups to install candidates they found more conservative had backfired.

“If I was not the nominee it might be lost,” he said of his seat. “Republicans lost the seats before in Nevada and New Jersey and Colorado where there were people who were claiming they wanted somebody who was more of their Tea Party aspect but they killed off the Republican majority.”

“This is one of the reasons why we have a minority in the Senate right now,” he claimed.


This is one of those zombie lies that keeps popping back up. During the last election cycle (the only one affected by the Tea Party so far) The Republican party gained six seats in the Senate. They needed four more to take control. Not one GOP incumbent lost their seat. (Lisa Murkowski of Alaska won reelection despite losing the primary to a Tea Party candidate.)

The claim that the Tea Party “lost” the Senate is based on the assumption that the GOP would have won four more seats had the establishment candidates won the primaries. But there is little proof that is the case – mostly some pre-primary polls. They might have won one or two – or maybe not.

It could just as easily be argued that without the support and enthusiasm of the Tea Party the Republicans would have won fewer seats and might not have taken control of the House either.

The Tea Party is a conservative movement and I’m a liberal, so why does this matter? Because the establishments of both parties have a vested interest in maintaining power, and neither establishment represents their party’s rank-and-file voters.

The Tea Party originated as an astroturf organization intended to gin-up opposition to Barack Obama. But it quickly morphed into a genuine grass-roots organization as the monster turned on its creators with primary challengers. Suddenly the GOP establishment joined with Democrats in portraying Tea Partiers as lunatics.

Some people think that the Occupiers are the Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party. This is not true. OWS has no interest in challenging the Democratic establishment by fielding primary candidates. But if they did they could expect similar treatment.


We don’t serve tea or Koolaid in here


riverdaughter, on November 19, 2011 at 9:05 pm said:

There is a certain segment of the Tea Party who I think will be very susceptible to the OWS movement. They’re the ones the DNC blew off for Obama. Right now, they’re the ones who hang out at places like the Crawdad Hole.
And as long as OWS stays away from politics, they have a good shot of winning them back.


I am a blue collar liberal. I’ve been one most of my life. But I am no longer a partisan.

Pick a policy issue and I lean towards the left. I am pro-choice and I support LGBT rights and single payer health care, I oppose the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. I support civil liberties and oppose the Patriot Act, domestic spying, torture and assassination. I support reasonable restrictions on gun ownership (like banning assault weapons) and want to see marijuana legalized and most other drugs decriminalized. I want to see the big banks and financial corporations broken up and regulated, our environment preserved and our social safety nets protected.

I believe that crony capitalism is one of the major problems facing our nation. In order to fight it I think we need genuine campaign finance reform that reigns in the power of money on politics. We also need tax and spending reforms that eliminate the ability of the government to reward campaign contributors.

Occupy Wall Street is an organization, not an ideology. “Occupying” is a tactic. I support neither one. But just because I don’t support OWS does not mean I support the bankers or that I am a Glenn Beck fan. (I swear that man lives rent-free in some people’s heads.)

For most of my adult life I was a partisan Democrat. While I lost faith in my political church a few years ago I still have my religion. Some people have trouble telling the two apart.

I can admire the strategy, tactics and dedication of the Tea Party members without supporting their goals. I can support the professed goals of some OWS members without supporting their strategy, tactics or unsavory associates. I can disagree with the ideology of conservatives without believing they are stupid and/or evil. More importantly, I can support their right to hold different opinions from me.

I don’t believe Barack Obama is a socialist. He is a conservative. As far as I am concerned the only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans in Washington is which way we are facing when they stab us.

Although I no longer consider myself a Democrat I am still registered as one and during the last general election I voted for Democrats in every partisan office except one, and in that one I wrote in the name of Ronald McDonald. I voted for Jerry Brown, Barbara Boxer, Gavin Newsom, and Kamala Harris. I did not vote for Dennis Cardoza.

I will not support or vote for Barack Obama. Nobama, no way. There is no candidate in either party that I support. It is my hope that the GOP will nominate someone I can hold my nose and vote for. Then we can start looking towards the 2016 Democratic primaries. If Obama is reelected we can’t start rebuilding until 2020.

During the past few months I have discussed the GOP presidential candidates without utilizing the filter of partisanship. I have discussed their qualifications, policies and character as well as the attacks being made against them.

I don’t agree with everyone who comments and posts at this blog. Most or all of the people here are former Democrats like myself. This is not a Tea Party blog, but Tea Partiers are welcome to drop by. So are Occupiers, Paultards, smelly hippies and wingnuts.

No trolls or Obots allowed.

This is supposed to be a place where people can agreeably disagree, but it’s not a hothouse for delicate flowers. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but anything you say can and will be mocked, jeered and/or disputed. But just because we ridicule what you say doesn’t mean we don’t like you.

If we have one common trait around here it’s cynicism with a big dose of stubbornness. We don’t believe in magical unity ponies or miracle cures. We’ve proven that we are pretty much immune to peer pressure too. We aren’t susceptible to anything but facts backed up with logic and reason.

If you want to change our minds you need to elevate your game above junior high name-calling and insults.

BTDTGTTSAWIO



Occupy Rape


Via Verum Serum:

Police investigate Occupy Philly sexual assault

A man is under arrest, and police are processing him for sexually assaulting a woman at the Occupy Philly camp near City Hall Saturday night. His identity is not being released.

The victim was taken to a local hospital for medical treatment.

Police cleared Dilworth Plaza where the alleged assault took place while the Crime Scene Unit and Police Special Victims Unit investigated.

Police say the victim is a 23 year old woman from Atlantic City, and the alleged rapist is a 50 year old man with a Michigan address.

Police say the rape occurred around 7:45pm Saturday night, and that the woman walked to a nearby pay phone and called 911.

They picked up the man within 20 minutes in the general vicinity of the camp.

I don’t recall any reports of rape at any Tea Party rallies.

Last winter a certified nutjob with no known connection to Sarah Palin or the Tea Party went on a killing spree. Some people insisted it was the fault of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

The Occupy movement has been directly linked to numerous deaths, sexual assaults as well as lots of other acts of violence and destruction. The same people that blamed Sarah and the Tea Partiers keep insisting that the Occupy movement has nothing to do with any of it.



If Not Now, When?

For a quarter century, the Congress has been under rules imposing a balanced budget. They have been changed and rewritten for years. You can still deficit spend, but you have to call the spending an emergency. So, the government considers virtually every budget item an emergency. There’s always a reason to spend more money. There’s rarely a compelling reason to spend less.

I understand why people think now is a bad time to reduce government spending. Federal money has an effect on the economy. People and businesses use their credit (cards) to pay for things they can’t afford immediately. I used a student loan to buy my first car. That car got me to a job that pays the bills. The problem is that the government rarely uses debt to buy assets, but to meet obligations the current revenue can’t match. That’s the worst kind of debt.

So we fall into this kind of Keynesian spiral. Deficit spending is stimulative, but taking it away can be disruptive. In forty years, we have only had four budgets with surpluses. If we can only average a positive balance one out of every 10 years, we are in serious trouble.

In some ways, I think the push to bring down deficits is psychological. People and businesses in the private sector see their access to credit diminishing. Many are taking it upon themselves to wean off credit whenever possible. They would welcome real stimulus toward them by the government. Instead, they see a trillion dollars go to the banks and a trillion dollars in stimulus go effectively nowhere. This stimulus effect preceded 7% unemployment and concluded with 10% unemployment. If this were the definition of government working for people, it would be fired.

If Gramm-Rudman of 1985 is any indication, the desire for deficit reduction comes once a generation, when government spending it at its height. If the current plan is a bad idea, we need alternatives, not spending without limits. We could tie austerity to GDP, unemployment or corporate profits, if necessary. Right now, the only time something happens is by the will of the people. Even if Keynesians don’t like it, the will of the people is for fiscal accountability.

It takes a balloon head to know one


Matthews Yells At Tea Party Leader: Why Is ‘Balloon-Head’ Bachmann Speaking For You

Chris Matthews was nearly apoplectic in his questioning of Tea Party Express co-founder Sal Russo on the topic of Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and her controversial re-imagining of history where the founding fathers found a way to end slavery in their lifetime. Repeatedly calling Bachmann a “balloon head,” Matthews demanded to know why Russo and the Tea Party wanted Bachmann to give a response to the State of the Union address or, more generally, why they ever wanted her to open her mouth in the first place?

Funny, but Tweety doesn’t seem to get as upset about stupid guy politicians. I wonder why that is?

I’m no fan of Bachmann or the Tea Party, but do we really want the media deciding who should represent people? If the The Partiers want Bachmann speaking for them that’s none of Tweety’s damn business.


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