Women Always Pay

I hate to link to HuffPoo, but…

CBS Reporter Lara Logan was brutally sexually assaulted while covering the unrest in Egypt. The family wants their privacy respected, so I was hesitant to even post this. But it needs to be said. We don’t know what faction is responsible for this. We don’t know what happened. We may never know, and that’s fine, too. But what is currently making me ill is that it is ALWAYS the women that pay. In this case, it was a white foreign journalist. In many cases it isn’t. But it’s almost always a woman. A big rowdy crowd celebrating? A Woman Pays. A big rowdy crowd protesting? A Woman Pays. A Senior Prom? A Woman Pays. Big Fun Party? A Woman Pays. Civil War? A Woman Pays. Religious zealotry? A Woman Pays. Turned in for your crimes? A Woman Pays.

Am I the only one sick and fucking tired of this particular pattern?

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82 Responses to Women Always Pay

  1. 1539days says:

    It’s also sad that Anderson Cooper or Greg Palcott can go on TV and talk about their harrowing expereince being beaten or detained by the police in Egypt. I understand if Logan doesn’t want to talk about it, but it underscores that there is still something wrong or uncomfortable with talking about it.

  2. imustprotest says:

    Where is the outrage? The sound of crickets is deafening. This is why we needed Hillary as POTUS. This was her time. I doubt I will see a woman president in my lifetime. This sucks beyond belief.

    • ainnj says:

      Actually it was all over the media in the northeast last night and lots of stories online.

      • imustprotest says:

        I have seen more stories in the past day or so, but at least in the reports I’ve seen, outrage is not expressed. Most stories have a hushed tone, and a sadness. They often say what a great reporter she is and how they hope she recovers soon. One report spoke about what happened to her in the larger context of the attacks on the journalists, except that the male journalists were not raped. There should be outrage IMO.

        • “One report spoke about what happened to her in the larger context of the attacks on the journalists, except that the male journalists were not raped. ”

          Do you have a link for that one? I don’t want to read the badly done stories.

        • imustprotest says:

          No I don’t, sorry. It was a tv news report, a local cbs affiliate.

  3. ralphb says:

    I read that earlier and was infuriated by it. There is absolutely no defense for animal behavior.

  4. ralphb says:

    Ah those Progressives, they don’t disappoint, the bastards!

    Nir Rosen trashes Lara Logan, dismisses her sexual assault

    Left-wing journalist Nir Rosen joked today about the sexual assault of CBS News’ chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan. Logan was assaulted on Friday during celebrations in Cairo that followed Hosni Mubarak’s resignation.

    The initial tweet by Rosen stated, “Lara Logan had to outdo Anderson. Where was her buddy McCrystal.” From this tweet he went further, writing that he would have been amused if Anderson Cooper had also been sexually assaulted.

  5. A nut in Tucson shoots — a woman.
    Who is blamed? — a woman.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      Speaking of which, it’s already Sarah Palin’s fault, according to Suzi Parker. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-assault-for-female-reporters-the-added-peril-of-tur/

      Started out a good enough article, and then *WHAM* SP fault. Also Ann Coulter. Idiot.

      • DeniseVB says:

        I think “journalists” earn air miles for including a Palin slam in an article.

        • trixta says:

          Unbelievable! The article is smearing Palin and Coulter by association, as if their comments about the msm/journalists have anything to do with — or are even comparable to — rape by Muslim men.

        • votermom says:

          palinpalooza air miles

        • okasha skatsi says:

          How do you know the men were Muslim? If you kow the identity of the rapists, please share it with law enforcement.

          Meantime, how does a Muslim rapist differ from a Presbyterian one? Or an atheist or a Hindu or a Buddhist one? Why is the religion of the perpetrator(s) important? We don’t classify, say, burglars or drug dealers by faith. Why should we do so here?

        • okasha skatsi, on February 16, 2011 at 7:57 pm
          Good point! A crowd of 200 surrounding the whole news team sounds like political motives, perhaps the same as the motives for attacks on other news teams.

      • okasha skatsi says:

        Nowhere does the article blame either Ann Coulter or Sarah Palin for the attack on Logan. It does blame Coulter for calling for the imprisonment of journalists–liberal ones, of course–and Palin for broad-brushing all reporters as “lame-stream.” While it passes belief that the men who attacked Logan are supporters of either Coulter or Palin, some of their lame-brained right-wing sexist counterparts have blamed Logan herself for the attack.

        • sandress says:

          Maybe I’m overthinking, but I suspect that the article has deliberately tried to tie two right wing women to a story that is viscerally repugnant. It looks crassly contrived to me. Because there is Literally No Other Reason to include those women in a story that is totally unrelated. It doesn’t accuse them of anything, but it’s clearly trying to make an association by mentioning them in close proximity. That’s not as bad as Lara Logan victim-blaming, but who cares? It’s still reprehensible.

  6. Three Wickets says:

    There were few MSM reporters as smart, courageous and deeply embedded in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Middle East as Lara. This is horrible horrible. Am irrationally pissed off now at people like Taibbi and Greenwald who criticized her reporting from afar. When were they ever over there. She was always the one on the ground, in the firing line. I wish her the best in her recovery.

  7. dm says:

    It’s like that old song says…”women are the n*ggers of the world”…unfortunately, still too true today.

  8. votermom says:

    Thanks for posting about this, sandress. I heard about the attack Logan yesterday and it is so horrible, and yet I didn’t pick up on the pattern. You are right, there’s always a woman who ends up paying, one way or the other. Its like being a subspecies.

  9. ainnj says:

    from some of the blogs and stories I have been reading online, apparently and unfortunately ,according to some of these stories, this was not that an uncommon occurance in the streets of Cairo, regardless of whether there are protests or not. I had been wondering why, Egypt being so much more secular a country tha Iran, that we saw so many fewer women in the streets of Egypt protesting in the broadcasts and videos.

  10. OldCoastie says:

    I read about this yesterday and have had that sick feeling about it ever since…

    Lara will be blamed eventually – she shouldn’t have been there, she shouldn’t have been wearing western clothes, etc., etc….

    Lara is very brave (my thoughts and prayers are with her) – I hope she speaks up when she is able to.

  11. WMCB says:

    Denninger looks at the new PPP figures today, and they are really bad. Look for businesses failing and even more layoffs, as profit margins collapse. You can’t stay in business with the cost of goods inflating at this rate. You can jack your prices to the moon, but then no one (or at least far fewer) comes to buy. Clothes, restaurants, retail, etc – they are all in big trouble. No one has money to buy at those prices, so businesses go under, which means fewer jobs, which shrinks the “buying” pool even more, so more businesses go under…. etc.

    This is what happens when helicopter Ben quantitative eases (prints money) out the wazoo, and monetizes the debt. Commodities and crude goods inflate, and margins for businesses get slammed. He’s propping up the dollar and propping up the fucking housing bubble and the sham “investments” of the big banks, at the expense of all the rest of us and every actually PRODUCTIVE business in the country.

    This ain’t good:

    The Producer Price Index for finished goods rose 0.8 percent in January, seasonally adjusted, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. This advance followed increases of 0.9 percent in December and 0.7 percent in November and marks the seventh straight rise in finished goods
    prices. At the earlier stages of processing, prices received by manufacturers of intermediate goods moved up 1.1 percent, and the crude goods index rose 3.3 percent. On an unadjusted basis, prices for finished goods advanced 3.6 percent for the 12 months ended January 2011. (See table A.)

    Yuck. This isn’t just bad, it’s horrifying. Let’s look at the table inside because it’s there that you have to be paying attention to cost-push problems:

    There’s no possible good way to look at this.

    At the finished goods level we have a three month run-rate of about 0.8% monthly. Annualized this is a 10% increase. That’s freaking monstrous.

    Worse however is in the intermediate goods; there we find a roughly 20% annualized inflation rate.

    And in crude goods? Hold on to your hat: Annualized on an average basis over the last four months it’s roughly sixty percent.

    For the math wonks: ((1.047 + 1.013 + 1.065 + 1.033) / 4) ^ 12

    Margin collapse? You better believe it.

    Either that, massive destruction of the consumer’s standard of living or both.

    I’ve been hollering about this since August of last year. Folks, the data is not getting better.

    It’s getting much worse.


    • votermom says:

      Small businesses are drowning. One of the few USA yarn companies left is closing. Walmart stopped carrying them – switched to a Canadian look-alike brand.


    • ralphb says:

      And, as totally obvious as this is, you can’t fucking argue with most academic economists that QE2 is a bad thing. Can’t get their head out of their ass long enough to look at the real world instead of someone’s mathematical proof of a dumbass theory. But I’m not bitter, Oh, No…

      Generally speaking, economists couldn’t organize a fall off a bar stool.

      • indigogrrl says:

        speaking of falling off bar stools…where is the clown and the crustacean?

      • Three Wickets says:

        QE2 is a handout to banks and corporations that we’ll pay for in higher food and energy prices and ballooning debt interest. There is no real pick up in hiring, and there probably won’t be until something happens to the big accounting hole in the ground that is housing and bad assets. Meanwhile the rich get richer.

      • WMCB says:

        Yup. Because they have a beautiful theory of how it is supposed to work, and the equations are impeccably sound. Everyone who is anyone agrees with them that there are no gaps or flaws, their theory is a work of economic artistry, and they can run the models repeatedly to prove it.

        What’s that? Reality is intruding? The results don’t match our models? Bar the door! How dare the reality of negative consequences impinge on the flawless reasoning of our beautiful minds.

        Maybe if we could just stop those dirty little people from making self-interested human decisions that inconvenience the working of our seamless theory, all would be paradise. Human beings are so….. untidy, really.

        • ralphb says:

          It’s downright bizarre how people can talk about rising prices for food, energy, all commodities yet in the same breath echo Bernanke and say there is no inflation. Almost self delusional behavior.

          Maybe there is no inflation in the price of 2nd or 3rd vacation homes but most of us aren’t concerned about those.

  12. Lola-at-Large says:

    I’m trying to wrap my head around this too, Sandra. What I was drawn to, and what I wrote about, is the rhetorical divide between the way men and women are discussing it. There’s some notable distinctions. http://almostverbiage.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/how-were-talking-about-lara-logan-by-gender/

    • votermom says:

      I think you are on to something there. Interesting differences. It’s like the story doesn’t even have to do about r.a.p.e when men discuss it.

      • OldCoastie says:

        very interesting and an excellent insight by you, VM.

      • jjmtacoma says:

        That is interesting and I’m not sure what to make of it either.

        I have been thinking about the attacks on journalists.

        But then I think about the WTO protests in Seattle and how “anarchists” disrupted the peaceful protest by joining the protest then instigated a melee within the protesting group and also with the police.

        Go back to the protests in Egypt, I suspect the rape of Lara Logan and Anderson Cooper getting smacked around are the tip of the iceberg. Any other victims in that crowd don’t have the means to tell their stories. I have a feeling it was very ugly and dangerous, I hope they achieve something worth while out of it.

        I hope Lara Logan is OK.

        • After the first, peaceful,protests in Egypt, there were reports of violence by alleged Mubarak supporters, and of some of Mubarak’s police in plain clothes pretending to be on the protestors’ side but doing damage, to give the protestors a bad image.

          Ie they did violence toward the protestors and also toward other targets.

          So what happened to these pro-Mub people when Mub resigned? Maybe they were still around, and not happy with the result. CBS said a group of 200 were “whipped into a frenzy.” That sounds more like anger at the outcome, than like celebrating.

          Wasn’t it the pro-Mub forces that attacked the journalists earlier in the month?

          I wonder why the other members of the CBS crew aren’t saying more about the attack on the crew overall (hopefully not focusing on Logan).

  13. foxyladi14 says:

    more security for reporters….

  14. Good for you. In case I miss your post, pls also post it at pumapac.org (or email it to the mods or something). They’re good on such campaigns.

    And/or email it to me and I’ll post it at pumapac.org and hillaryis44.org.

  15. trixta says:

    Another thing, Rosen’s comment about Anderson Cooper (AC) — suggesting that “it would be funny if he had been attacked too” — were also offensive. Of all the male journalists in Egypt last week, why did he single out Anderson Cooper? Could it be that AC is gay? Rosen is a misogynist and homophobe, IMO.

    I hope AC uses his CNN show to call out Rosen and his disgusting views.

  16. Some good links and good commetary, nothing offensive, at this moderated site:


  17. Finally here’s a report with some perspective.


    It tells about other journalists attacked in Egypt, and quotes some of the pro-democracy activists saying the culprits here were probably pro-Mubarak.

  18. Uppity Woman says:

    If you find out any information on that freak Rosen, please let me know and I will gladly cross-post. That Missing Link deserves to be unemployed for the rest of his life–or until he moves to the Middle East, which seems to be his heartthrob.

    • Fine, but let’s not forget the WOMAN at LA Weekly who wrote an awful story about Logan.

      • ralphb says:

        After seeing the picture that ran with the story, I didn’t read it. It was plain sick and feeds into the worst sort of animal instincts.

        The description of LA Weekly story in your link above was more than enough to convince me the author and Rosen share a sexist streak.

        • I’m thinking about how to protest that LA WEekly thing. Comments/letters to the author are just trophies for her to show her editor. Feedback to the LA Weekly management is probably the same.

          What some people did on a different magazine, was go around to the convenience stores etc that sell the magazine and complain to their managers. Ask them to take the magazine off the racks. Apparently THAT had some effect.

          They also would print out flyers about the article and put them in front of the magazine on the rack, inside its pages, etc, telling readers where and how to complain to LA Weekly management, distributors, etc.

  19. Three Wickets says:

    It’s like we’re on a ship without the Captain and his XO. 😯

  20. Pips says:

    My “missing link”s (heh!) were to prove that there were many women participating in the protests in Egypt, as it seems US media has tried to … edit them out?

    Women of the Egyptian Revolution.

  21. Pips says:

    That stuck! So I’ll try another one:

    Imperial Feminism, Islamophobia, and the Egyptian Revolution.

    And thanks for trying (albeit in vain) to Rescue meee… 😉

  22. votermom says:

    We need Al Jazeera in Wisconsin. Schools are being closed as teachers and parents protest in Madison against Governor Walker’s union-busting.
    Strangely you won’t even know this is haooening if you rely on headline news.


  23. votermom says:

    I am going to put up a short post about Wisconsin protests.

  24. Swannie says:

    Why is there no discussion in the media regarding the fact that the mob was screaming JEW JEW at Lara Logan? Is it because this then becomes a cultural issue?

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