Do liberals have a problem with black conservatives?


“Liberals have a problem with black conservatives… You don’t fit in the box. You are jumping out of the pen.”

I’m a liberal and I don’t have a problem with black conservatives. I don’t have a problem with conservatives of any color. Not generally, anyway. (I do have problems with some specific conservatives.)

I have my beliefs, conservatives have theirs. Democracy is all about the marketplace of ideas. I think liberals have a better product but we haven’t done a good job of selling it.

On the other hand I think progressives have a huge problem with black conservatives. That’s because modern progressivism is just a tribal thing without any true ideology.

What do you think?


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6 Responses to Do liberals have a problem with black conservatives?

  1. ralphb says:

    Progressives are largely just cult members who happen to be worshipping at the altar of Obama for now. Frankly, they’re nothing but piffle.

  2. I agree. The (esp. this new) progressive tribe not only has a big problem with conservative blacks, they have a big problem with conservative women.

    I think the 2008 election tribal war dance showed us all that it was first and foremost a tribal, cult, or maybe high school clique type formation. And the battle from the Obot side was all venom and hate towards anyone who opposed. Perhaps mostly because there was really nothing they could actually defend, so they had to oppose. And it turned out with both the primary and then the general, their main hate was towards women. The interesting thing about tribal/cult things like this, is those sorts of dominant threads usually come from the top down. Obama hates women, ergo, the Obot tribe hates women. On top of that, the Dem party even abandoned democracy itself to go along with their new tribe or coalition.

    So what to do. It’s not too late for liberals to shake off their fauxgressive bigoted, or just easily lead astray brethren. They’re destroying the Dem brand, if it isn’t destroyed already. Scratch that, it’s destroyed. What to do is for real liberals to form their own party. A working class party as a last stand against the final onslaught of the Repub/Dem party elite machine.

  3. ralphb says:

    Call me crazy but I’ve believed all along, and still do, that there is room for Liberal views in the Tea Party. Liberals never tried to moderate it, so it went pretty far right when I don’t think that had to be the case.

    It may be a long term proposition but there are probably enough disaffected liberals now to make a difference in the Tea party positions.

    • sandress says:

      I totally agree. I’m a super hard-left big government tax and spend liberal, so I probably wouldn’t fit in there, but damn, I really do think there are a LOT of fiscally conservative social liberals. And I think if we could all get past our ridiculous in-group/out-group mentality that the tea party could have been bipartisan and constructive and had real legs.

      • WMCB says:

        I agree. One area of common ground is a true and genuine distaste for CRONY capitalism. Most teapartiers I know are as sick and tired of that crap as we are. A Separation of Corp and State would be a good start, and solve a lot of ills. I could certainly hold hands with some people over that, despite disagreements on other stuff.

      • Three Wickets says:

        Back in 2009, there was supposed to be a rally in NYC where Progressives and Tea Partiers got together and marched down to Wall Street together. I showed up to a massive gathering of around two dozen people. We stood around for a while, confused, then we all went home.

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