Flashback – The Denver Group

Back in July 2008 The Denver Group (Heidi Li Feldman and Marc Rubin) ran this ad:


Would Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi have kept his name off the ballot?

Franklin Roosevelt went into the 1932 Democratic Convention 90 delegates short of the 2/3 majority needed to win the nomination. He finally won on the 4th ballot in a contentious convention. The Democratic Party survived.

Senator Obama and Senator Clinton both go to the convention without the necessary majority needed to secure the nomination. Yet there is talk that Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and some elements of the DNC want to subvert the democratic process by keeping Senator Clinton’s name from being placed in nomination.

Senator Clinton is still a candidate. She is the popular vote winner who won more votes than any Democratic primary candidate in history. Democratic processes demand that Senator Clinton’s name be officially placed in nomination. There must be an open convention with an honest roll call vote so super delegates who will decide this nomination can vote according to their judgment and conscience for either candidate as Democratic party rules provide. And if some in the DNC are afraid that a democratic process could produce a result different from a preconceived set of expectations, as someone once said, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Keep the Democratic Party democratic. Paid for by The Denver Group http://www.thedenvergroup.blogspot.com and not authorized by any candidate, candidate’s committee or any political party.


Hillary Clinton won more primary votes than any Democrat ever – including second place finisher Barack Obama. She finished the primaries in a virtual tie with Obama for pledged delegates. Yet if the Democratic party would have had it’s way she would not have even been on the nominating ballot at the DNC convention!

Which reminds me:

Brazile: I’ll Quit DNC Position Over Superdelegates

Democratic strategist Donna Brazile — who managed Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign and is herself a superdelegate — says she will quit her position within the Democratic Party if her superdelegate colleagues decide the party’s nomination.

“Let’s wait for some of these other states to help sort this out,” Brazile, a News & Notes contributor, told Farai Chideya.

As Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama continue to run neck-and-neck in amassing the total delegates needed to win the nomination, some have suggested that the party’s superdelegates — comprising party activists and high-ranking officials — could make the deciding vote.

But Brazile says the superdelegate vote “should reflect the will of the people.”

Has she quit yet?


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19 Responses to Flashback – The Denver Group

  1. 1539days says:

    Oops. Posted this in the wrrong thread. Anyway,

    In 1968, Ronald Reagan came to the RNC with more primary votes than Richard Nixon. Nixon had the connections in the party to win the nomination. That worked out really well for the GOP in the following 12 years.

  2. DeniseVB says:

    There’s the bloody battle in 1980 between Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter right to the convention floor. Carter was renominated but Reagan won that election. It seriously divided the Dems, so maybe that’s how they convinced Hillary to bug out ?

    Will we ever know? Wish she would have fought like it was 1980 !

    • 1539days says:

      I’ve heard different theories. There’s the one where a race war was going to be declared if she got the nomination over Obama. The superdelagates may have threatened a revolt where they would use their super powers to hand the nomination over.

      I tend to think that Hillary was told in no uncertain terms that she (and Bill) would be blackballed from the Democratic party if they fought this in the media (which is the only place that would hear her) she wouldn’t hold another position in government again, the Clinton Global Initiative would be investigated for spite and Obama would be the nominee anyway. If that were the case, however, I would hope Hillary would have crossed the street and become McCain’s VP.

      • ralphb says:

        She might have if crossing the street to become McCain’s VP had not meant the same consequences or maybe worse for her, Bill, and the CGI.

      • DeniseVB says:

        That’s the headscratcher, the Clintons are bigger than the Dem party, IMHO. All I could think of was blackmail in such a serious proportion, it would have bankrupted them and added an asterisk to Bill’s name in the history books, like a baseball player on steroids.

        And right now, I can’t think of anything worse the Clintons could have done than the past 2+ years of the Obama administration.

      • yttik says:

        I think both Bill and Hillary have that “servant’s heart” that Palin talks about. They didn’t really need to be blackmailed, they believe in the good of their party, in the will of the people. They saw how things were coming down the pike and the only options were to tear the Dem party apart or adapt to the misguided will of the Obama-mob and try to get in a position were you have the ability to do the most good. If Hillary had stood firm, it would have fractured the Dem party. I don’t think they could have predicted how badly Obama himself was going to fracture the party. I mean, they may have believed he was a real Democrat and would at least try to consult with more experienced people and attempt to do a good job. Once the economy is better, people will get over it. Obama will eventually win people over, once the “change” starts happening. The more we get to know him, the more we’ll like him, but it didn’t quite work out that way.

        • djmm says:

          That was my interpretation, too, Yttk. I do not think she ever dreamed he’d try to tear down SS and Medicare.

          djmm

        • DandyTiger says:

          I do not think she ever dreamed he’d try to tear down SS and Medicare
          In the primary debates he said SS would have to be privatized. He made it pretty clear to anyone listening that he would be following the Republican playbook for his wall street/bank friends when it came to “entitlements”.

  3. Seeing this ad again brought tears to my eyes. And reminded me of why I can NEVER vote for Barack Obama.

    The Democratic party with it’s “superdelegates” and backroom dealing have visited a grave injustice upon the American People.

    • DeniseVB says:

      And the biggest failing by our media for not reporting or investigating what the rest of us were concerned about: Obama was not fit to lead our country.

  4. Dario says:

    The Democratic leadership believed it was THEIR PARTY and they could select the nominee. Whatever. No Democrat running for congress or the presidency will get my vote until they are all gone, especially Pelosi, Reid, 2×4 Schumer, Clyburn, Hoyer, Boxer, Feinstein, etc.

    • Jeffhas says:

      I’m with you Dario – except for maybe Feinstein – she supported Hillary all along the way right to the bitter end, it was no coincidence she loaned Hillary her home for the Bamboozler meeting, Dianne has been on the outside of this administration ever since – and she doesn’t give a sh*t.

      But any Dem that supported Obama (before or after the election) will get nothing but scorn from me for at least the 25 years I put into Das Party…. Dianne will be one of my only exceptions.

    • ralphb says:

      They turned out to be right, it was THEIR PARTY. Fuck ’em, welcome to it.

    • djmm says:

      Here is what I cannot understand: after the 2010 election debacle for the Democrats, how is it that Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Reid still have their current positions of power?

      Is it something they know? Or is the Party deliberately keeping its leadership weak?

      djmm

      • DeniseVB says:

        There was a group of blue dog dems who voted against Pelosi and Reid and they were later waterboarded at Gitmo 😛

        I was surprised too.

        • 1539days says:

          What’s scary is that Rep. Giffords voted against making Pelosi Minority leader the week before the shooting. If you look into it, there were a lot of threats against her in the prog blogs, not just vague target maps.

        • votermom says:

          My idle fantasy is that Giffords will primary Obama. Just imagining the exploding koolaided brains.

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