The long game

From the comments here at the Hole:

Is the consensus here to vote for whoever the Republican candidate is in 2012, or are there some Republican candidates that would make you vote for Obama or stay home?

Commenter Gayle over at TGW answers that question:

Honestly I think its time or Progressives and liberals (whatever you prefer) to seriously consider whether we can afford another 4 years of Obama, followed by a Republican President (because that will surely be the aftermath) or if we should cut our loses now and prepare for 2016.

So the choice is 4 more years of Republican lite followed by an actual Republican or an actual Republican followed by a Democrat.

Good chess players always think several moves ahead. Unless you honestly believe the Obama will suddenly turn into the Magical Unity Pony we were promised three years ago, there are really only two possibilities:

A) Obama wins in 2012, the Republicans gain control of the Senate and keep control of Congress in 2014. In 2016 the voters pick a GOPer for POTUS. By 2020 the economy has finally improved and the GOPer gets reelected. The Democrats first real opportunity to retake the White House is in 2024.


B) Obama loses in 2012. The Republicans win the White House and both houses of Congress. As in 2001-2008 their policies soon prove enormously unpopular. Democrats gain seats in Congress in 2014 and retake the House of Representatives and the White House in 2016.

Option B makes more sense to me, especially when you consider that it gives us the chance to get rid of the current crop of corrupt DINOcrats.

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22 Responses to The long game

  1. votermom says:

    Option B makes more sense to me, especially when you consider that it gives us the chance to get rid of the current crop of corrupt DINOcrats.

    Ding ding ding!!!!!
    We must get rid of Obama AND his corrupt enablers!
    2012 will be a massacre for the Dems even in the downticket races. 2014 will be a chance to elect some honest, old-fashioned, lunch-bucket liberals. No more “progressives”.

  2. Dario says:

    The koolaid drinkers are still looking for the pony in the manure.

    The Nation: Obama Better Give One Hell of a Speech

    • votermom says:

      First of all, kudos to investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson for her work on this story.
      Secondly, anyone else get the surreal ridiculousness of a Chicago politician & his Chicago coterie getting into the White House and then literally finding a way to provide guns to Mexican drug lords?
      If this were a movie script it would be derided as too hackneyed and cliched to get a green light.

    • angienc says:

      IF the WH didn’t know, then they are even MORE incompetent than I thought. Of course, Obama has claimed incompetence for the last 4 years (my staff did it; I didn’t hear Rev. Wright say those things, etc) and people buy it, so WTF do I know.

  3. angienc says:

    Not being able to see past their own over-blown egos for the good of this country and for REAL Dem ideals is how we got this fraud in the first place. If they had been able to see the “next move” we would have Hillary as POTUS for 8 years with Obama as VP & then Obama as POTUS in 2016 when, after Hillary did the heavy lifting to SAVE our country’s economy, a status quo POTUS like Obama would have been fine. 16 years of having Dem. POTUS, country back on track, etc, wasn’t even considered by this spoiled brat generation who wanted what they wanted NOW!!!!!!!!

    This 11th dimensional chess they all keep bragging about is the OPPOSITE of regular chess.

    But yeah, looking ahead, it is better to dump this fraud Obama NOW & suffer through 4 *more* years of a GOP POTUS because at least that way the left can attempt to get its act back together instead of applauding all the right wing bullshit Obama keeps doing.

  4. yttik says:

    After four years of Bush, the country was really starting to lean Dem. After 8 years of him, the country was so Dem, you could have run an inexperienced guy with no job history and a shady past and he would have won. Wait..we did.

    We haven’t even had four years of Obama yet, and this country hasn’t just moved right, they’re leaping in that direction as fast as they can. Seriously, I believe if we elect Obama to a second term, my grandchildren won’t see another Dem president in their life time.

  5. Karma says:

    After voting for McCain it was clear that would not be the only Republican vote cast. The Obots who supported such a thing would need to be thrown out of office and it was going to take several cycles to accomplish.

    A large portion of Dem party engaged in the subversion of democracy….to look away is not an option. I am not a Republican but will probably be registering as one this year for the primary. It is my plan to vote for the Republican who has the best chance of beating Obama and isn’t Bush IV.

    Previously, I wanted the Dem party to see any Rep protest votes cast so I stayed registered. Without a viable primary challenger….that vote would be wasted staying with the Dems.

    But it is all part of the same strategy that started on May 08. That was the final straw. I mourned the party then….the rest is my civic duty.

  6. Carolyn Kay says:

    Remember our washing machine analogy – churn, churn, churn, throwing out dirt with each shift of the rotor.

    Carolyn Kay

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