The New-New Civility


Pro-Democrat Media Mouthpieces:

Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for “sanctioning violence against fellow Americans” by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn’t calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa’s comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here’s got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let’s take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

It is not uncommon for news media (and bloggers) to edit down “soundbytes” to avoid TLDR situations. A statement would be considered “doctored” if words were intentionally changed or it the meaning of the statement was altered by the editing.

Here is an unedited transcript of the portion of Hoffa’s speech that is at issue:

“We like a good fight. And you know what, they got a war and they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner and it’s going to be the workers of Michigan and America. We’re going to win that war. All the way. But it starts with your involvement. It starts with next November. We got a bunch of people there that don’t want the president to succeed. And they’re called the tea party. The people that don’t want him to do anything right and he’s working hard for us. And president Obama is frustrated by what’s going on. Well guess what. We got the vote. And the answer what we say is, ‘we remember in November.’ We will beat the tea party and give this country back to workers and America. We can do it together. And we also gotta talk about jobs. I get so tired of these people who sit on these big corporations that send our jobs to Mexico. They send our jobs to China. And they have the audacity to say ‘where are the jobs?’ Well I got news for you It’s time to bring those jobs back to America and put America back to work. That’s what we’ve got to do.”

“We’re going to hear from President Obama in a few minutes. And I’m so glad he’s come to Michigan because this is where he sees the real America. He looks out on this army of people and you know what I say, ‘President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.’ And, President Obama we want one thing – jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs… That’s what we’re going to tell him. When he sees what we’re doing here he’s going to be inspired. But he needs help. And, you know what. Everybody here’s gotta vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize – Let’s take these sons a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong. Thank you very much.”


It doesn’t seem to me that FOX changed the meaning of what Hoffa said. Unless you’re referring to a date, the phrase “Take (someone) out” connotes violence or murder. It seems to me the main reason that conservatives are jumping on the statement has to do with the way Obots and the media (but I repeat myself) tried to blame Sarah Palin after Gabrielle Giffords was shot by a nutball.

The ironic part is nobody is talking about Obama’s speech yesterday, they are talking about his warm-up act.


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25 Responses to The New-New Civility

  1. votermom says:

    Yeah, Hoffa was inviting the tea party out to date. To watch a war movie! That’s it! 😀

  2. crawdad says:

    Facebook:

    Welcome, Union Brothers and Sisters
    by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 2:50am

    In my speech on Saturday in Iowa, I said: “Between bailouts for Wall Street cronies and stimulus projects for union bosses’ security and ‘green energy’ giveaways, [Barack Obama] took care of his friends. And now they’re on course to raise a billion dollars for his re-election bid so that they can do it all over again.” This was shamefully on display yesterday at President Obama’s taxpayer-funded campaign rally in Detroit. In introducing the President, Teamsters President James Hoffa represented precisely what I was talking about as he declared war on concerned independent Americans and on the freshman members we sent to Congress last November by saying, “Let’s take these son-of-a-bitches out!”

    What I say now, I say as a proud former union member and the wife, daughter, and sister of union members. So, as a former card-carrying IBEW sister married to a proud former Laborers, IBEW, and later USW member, please hear me out. What I have to say is for the hard working, patriotic, selfless union brothers and sisters in Michigan and throughout our country: Please don’t be taken in by union bosses’ thuggery like Jim Hoffa represented yesterday. Union bosses like this do not have your best interests at heart. What they care about is their own power and re-electing their friend Barack Obama so he will take care of them to the detriment of everyone else.

    To the same degree Americans are concerned about irresponsible, greedy corporate execs who got cushy bonuses from taxpayer-funded bailouts, we should also be concerned about greedy union bosses who are willing to tank our economy just to protect their own power. As union history shows, power and greed corrupt. Just because you claim to represent union members doesn’t mean you are on the side of the angels. The greed of too many of these union bosses has all but destroyed the labor movement in this country, helped chase away our jobs, and is killing the American dream.

    To see where this leads, look at what’s happening to the working class in our industrialized cities. These cities are going to hell in a hand basket thanks to corruption, crony capitalism, and the union bosses’ greed. The union bosses derive their power from your union dues and their promise to deliver your votes to whichever politician they’re in bed with. They get their power from you, and yet their actions ultimately hurt you. They’re chasing American industry offshore by making outrageous, economically illogical demands that they know will never work. And now that they’ve chased jobs out of union states, they’re trying to chase them out of right-to-work states like South Carolina, so eventually the jobs will leave America altogether. But these union bosses will still figure out a way to keep their gig, and so will their politically aligned corporate friends. As long as these big corporations have a good crony capitalist in the White House, they can rely on DC to bail them out until the whole system goes bankrupt, which, I am afraid, is not very far off. When big government, big business, and big union bosses collude together, they get government to maximize their own interests against those of the rest of the country.

    There’s more at the link

    • votermom says:

      Before Hoffa started cussing while introducing POTUS, Palin told the Tea Party to stay classy:

      Friends, you are better than that. Our country is better than that. We’ve got to unite. We’ve got to stand together. We can confront the problem and we can achieve lasting reform. And I can tell you from hard-earned experience with bumps and bruises along the way, that the road ahead is not easy. You will be demonized. They’ll mock you. They’ll make things up. They’ll tell you to “go to hell.” But we’ll bite our tongue, we’ll keep it classy, and we won’t respond—as tempting as it is—to anyone who just has such disdain for our free market economy and for individual initiative and responsibility. We won’t say, “No, you go to hell.” No, we won’t say that. You know why we don’t have to say that? Because when we have time-tested truth and logic on our side, we win. And when we refuse to retreat because we know that our children’s future is at stake, we win.

      -(Sarah Palin, Sept 3, 2011)

      • Erica says:

        She’s rocking it in these statements. She’s outclassing Pennsylvania Avenue. I’ve gotta say, I hope she runs. I’m starting to think she’ll elevate the conversation more than 0 ever did (the hypocrite), because she is REAL and a speak-truth-to-power kind of person.

    • Dario says:

      Palin knows unions. Can Obama claim that? I don’t think so.

  3. yttik says:

    That really wasn’t an appropriate union speech and it wasn’t an appropriate presidential appearance. A union is supposed to represent the workers, not the Dem party in it’s battle with Republicans. What about workers who aren’t Dems? What about workers who support the Tea Party?

    And the President, he’s supposed to be the President of America, of all the people, not just members of his party. It’s also kind of foolish to be so hostile and partisan right before you go in front of congress to ask for a jobs plan. “Let’s take these sons of bitches out….” is not a good way to win over hearts and minds for a jobs bill.

    • Dario says:

      A union is supposed to represent the workers, not the Dem party in it’s battle with Republicans.

      And that’s why the labor movement has not worked for the workers as it’s supposed to. Unions should be above politics and support and push for policies that protect the worker. Instead, labor leaders want to cozy up with the politicians and live off the union memberships. I support unions, but I can’t say unions have done a good job. Unions need reform too.

  4. Reminds me of another “historical” speech where some GOP rep shouted “you lie” and that overshadowed the “historicity” of the bestest speech evah (at the time)

  5. ralphb says:

    Saddest part is the taxpayers footed the bill for that horseshit campaign stop. Sure that was an official WH trip, with Aretha Franklin as the warm up act for the Hoffa act.

  6. votermom says:

    Btw, remember how Trumka was talking about distancing the AFL-CIO the Dems?
    Looks like he’s been Air Force Oned (just like Kucinich)

    Some labor leaders have been critical of Obama, including AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, who recently demanded that the president be bolder in his job proposals even in the face of GOP opposition.

    Trumka, along with Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, flew to Detroit with Obama on Air Force One. Speaking to the crowd before Obama took the stage, Trumka had praise for the president.

    “He’s the man who worked with autoworkers to save America’s auto industry,” Trumka said. “That’s the kind of bold, courageous action we need right now.”

    http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2011/09/06/obama-calls-on-gop-foes-to-help-him-create-jobs/

  7. bluestate says:

    so the obama strategy is class warfare now? does this mean playing the race card isn’t working for him anymore? will there be a country left to govern by the time he’s done tearing us apart? he is so much like bush in so many ways.

  8. HELENK says:

    a game where tea partiers are murdered.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/new-tone-liberals-create-new-online-game-where-tea-partiers-are-murdered/

    what the hell happened to my country?

    war is declared on her citizens and the president says he is proud of the speaker.
    Games where the object is to kill American citizens with a different point of view.

    unemployment needs to state in DC asap

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