What if they told Iowa to f**k off?

The shoe is on the other horse:

First on CNN: Florida will likely hold Jan. primary, threatening presidential calendar

Florida is now expected to hold its presidential primary on the last day in January 2012, a move likely to throw the carefully arranged Republican nominating calendar into disarray and jumpstart the nominating process a month earlier than party leaders had hoped.

Florida House Speaker Dean Cannon told CNN on Tuesday that a state commission exploring potential primary dates is likely to choose January 31 to hold the nominating contest.

If that happens, it would almost certainly force the traditional early states of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada to leapfrog Florida and move their primaries and caucuses into early- to mid-January.


Florida’s move would directly violate RNC rules that forbid any state other than the first four “carve-out” states — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina — from holding a primary before March 6.

States that ignore the RNC rules are subject to losing half of their delegates — party representatives who ultimately choose the nominee — to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida, next August.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus and other GOP officials have been aggressively lobbying Florida Gov. Rick Scott and state legislative leaders to move the primary back to February 21 in a last-ditch effort to protect the integrity of the nominating calendar, sources told CNN.

Even under the February 21 scenario, Florida would still lose half of its delegates.

But the proposal would allow Florida to go fifth on the calendar — a coveted position that the state held in 2008 and hopes to hold again in 2012.

A February 21 contest for Florida would also protect the first four states from having to move their contests to January.

But members of the Florida commission remain wary of states like Colorado, Georgia and Missouri, which are threatening to hold primaries or caucuses before February 21.

Florida’s likely decision is expected to trigger a flood of calendar moves as other states look to shore up their relevance in the presidential nominating process.

Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina are almost certain to move up in order to defend their cherished early voting status.

“If Florida decides to go in January, they blow the RNC planned calendar wide open and we’ll be back to campaigning over the holidays as Iowa and New Hampshire hold their presidential caucus and primary in early January,” said Michigan National Committee member Saul Anuzis, who is on the RNC’s presidential nominating schedule committee.

Michigan is holding its primary on February 28, which is after the first four states but still in violation of RNC rules.

Iowa has vowed to go before any other state in the process, meaning that the caucuses could be held in the early days of January, ensuring that the Republican candidates and their campaigns would likely be spending part of the holiday season in the hotel rooms of Des Moines.

What’s the hurry? Election day won’t be until the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. The party conventions won’t be until the end of summer.

They are going to front-load everything so that there is a good chance everything will be decided by the first week of March. Most of the action will be crammed between the Iowa caucuses and Super Duper Tuesday.

As for Iowa, they haven’t been doing a very good job. Even when they pick winners they end up being losers half the time.

Both parties need to get their shit together and work out a permanent primary schedule. Here’s what they should do:

1. Get rid of all caucuses and replace them with secret-ballot primaries.

2. Break up the states into four or five regions.

3. Assign each region a primary election day one month apart from each other beginning in March of each general election year.

4. Rotate the order every four years so that each region gets to be first once every sixteen-twenty years.

My plan is simple, efficient and doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of every becoming law.

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23 Responses to What if they told Iowa to f**k off?

  1. Dario says:

    1. Get rid of all caucuses and replace them with secret-ballot primaries.

    IA can have all its retail campaigning it wants, but then people should go into a booth and vote in a primary. No more buying votes and busing busloads of voters to be used with the pretense that the candidate who wins is somehow special.

  2. honora says:


    Why can we not have a democratic way to pick the party’s nominees? I for one will not vote in nominating primaries because they do nothing more than raise my blood pressure. I can do that by eating bad food and drinking too much— way more fun

    • myiq2xu says:

      I should have added:

      5. Delegates won in each primary shall be required to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged on the first ballot.

      6. No “superdelegates” shall be allowed

      7. The nominee for each party shall be picked by a simple majority vote of the pledged delegates.

      8. The number of delegates from each state shall be in proportion to that state’s electoral votes.

      • honora says:

        Nominating you for president is as far as I will go— I’m not easy!!

      • Dario says:

        5. Delegates won in each primary shall be required to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged on the first ballot.

        I understand that California pledged delegates have to vote for their candidate on the first ballot. And didn’t the obots work around that little law by skipping the order of voting so that California delegates pledged to Hillary would vote for The One?

        Laws are made to be broken.

  3. HELENK says:

    your plan makes too much sense for either party to do it. Just think with your plan people in every state in the union will have a chance to be the first to pick a nominee. We can’t have those pesky people actually doing something they want.
    Also the legal residents of DC should have a chance to vote.

    unemployment needs to start in DC asap

  4. ralphb says:

    The RNC this year has already screwed with their own nomination process in that states before Super Tuesday are no longer winner take all. Delegates are apportioned according to the percentage of the vote each candidate gets. That solves some of the front loading but also looks to me like it may give the RNC a little more room than usual to backroom things.

    • Monster from the Id says:

      The Reptilian Establishment saw how well it worked for the Dinocratic Establishment in stifling that pesky will of the majority. The RE hopes this will give them a way to shoehorn Romney into the nomination if Palin runs, just like the DE shoehorned Obummer in.

  5. Mary says:

    Are we allowed to tell Iowa to F off? 🙂

  6. DeniseVB says:

    ^5 myiq …. Every state should have a popular vote primary in Feb. Top 3 go to a final June all state primary and the winner takes all to the party’s convention. This keeps every state in play !

  7. insanelysane says:

    myiq and Denise,
    Your ideas for election reform are too simple and straightforward.
    It will never fly. Too understandable and logical and fair.

    Democrazy is complicated.

    • DeniseVB says:

      That’s what they say about the Fair Tax too. Simple, uncomplicated and truly fair to all income levels.

      Maybe we’re on too something? 😉

    • Dario says:

      Simple rules won’t work because those in charge have to have the flexibility to fix the elections, even if they have to go to the Supreme Court.

    • WMCB says:

      Democracy is actually not that complicated. Government requires a degree of complication, but not really overly much.

      But machinations, hiding of favors, payback, and jockeying for power and influence all require large amounts of complication, as camouflage to hide it all in.

      Hence all our complicated things, from our tax code to our penal codes to regulations to our monetary policies to the party systems to our nominating process to the rules of our bureaucracies. All those nooks and crannies are fertile hidey-holes for all sorts of malfeasance.

      I’m not an uber-small-govt conservative. But even I can see a need to simplify, and make transparent. And doing that is the one thing that NEITHER party really wants.

  8. imustprotest says:

    I’m tired of Iowa being the boss of us.

  9. Love the idea of four regional primaries- rotating every election cycle.
    Never could see why Iowa gets to go first.
    And caucuses definitely need to go the way of the dinosaurs.

  10. Karma says:

    Weird tidbit about that ‘Herding Cats’ Super Bowl classic. That is Ross Perot’s company.

    When being interviewed by headhunters the info to IT contractors was if they had any desire to attempt achieving full time employment with EDS. That the contractor shouldn’t mention any girlfriends or mistresses, if they were so inclined, and only talk about your wife in glowing terms. If EDS found out that you cheated on your wife, they would terminate your contract, or flat out fire you. The execs were on that list too.

    Perot felt if you were the type to cheat on your wife he didn’t want you in the building. Eventually, the headhunters would only forward married men because EDS felt they needed the jobs more and would reject the rest.

  11. 1539days says:

    Remember, the primary / caucus system is a combination of state laws and party rules. Now, the Republican Party could send a letter to every registered member and give them a PIN number. That PIN could be used on a phone or on line on one day to vote nationally. A caucus is similar. The party has a process involving people who want to spend all night doing multiple ballots to pick a winner.

    If you want a primary, you have to abide by the state laws. The states spend money on primaries as part of their election costs. Whatever they say basically goes. More states are seeing early primaries as a source of revenue and try to move them up to gain attention.

    The cheapest solution would be to randomly assign delegates from all registered members of a party. Each of them sends in a ballot before the convention, as not to be bullied/influenced early. When they show up for the convention, they only have a second ballot if a candidate does not get a majority of delegates.

  12. Lola-at-Large says:

    I’m beginning to suspect that there’s an attempt by a coalition of states to beseige the Iowa/New Hampshire tradition until it’s been conquered. I also suspect the parties are leveraging this unrelated action to keep women out of the top office. This has to be part of Palin’s deliberations.

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