The peasants are revolting!


Same planet, different worlds (my emphasis):

Wall St. protesters shut down Brooklyn Bridge

A horde of Wall Street demonstrators shut down the Brooklyn Bridge for 2 1/2 hours this afternoon, halting traffic and clashing as cops arrested as many as 700 on the famed span’s roadway.

About 100 cars were left stranded as the loud, angry crowd covered the crossing from end to end in an inflamed day of demonstrations against high unemployment, bank bailouts and financial pain for the masses.

One irate driver, a Ground Zero construction worker, blasted the pedestrians.

“I work my ass off all day, and these goddamned hippies close down the Brooklyn Bridge so I can’t get home?” he said. “This ain’t right!”


MsExPat at Corrente:

I’m wet, it’s late, but I wanted to at least get the photos up tonight. As you’ve read already, Occupy Wall Street walked across the Brooklyn Bridge this afternoon. I didn’t know where we would be going when I showed up with my friends for the march at 3pm–the destination was “secret”. But when 3000 of us passed City Hall and kept going, it became obvious–we were going to Brooklyn!

Marches are all about optics. I know this from all the demonstrations I join in Hong Kong. You march for PR–to get your profile out there. So the choice of the Brooklyn Bridge, on a busy Saturday afternoon, with plenty of bike riders, casual strollers, tourists, and motorists on the way was a genius move.


As I said before, “Goals determine strategy, Strategy determines tactics.

What was the goal here?

Who made the decision to march across the bridge? Was blocking the bridge the plan or an accident? If they weren’t planning to block the bridge, then what was the plan?

I don’t live anywhere near New York and I don’t know any of the people involved. I haven’t watched any television coverage of the protests. Everything I know about these events I have learned online.

But I don’t confine myself to the left side of the blogosphere in my search for news and information.

What I am seeing is a group of clueless people who are overly impressed with themselves.

YMMV


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64 Responses to The peasants are revolting!

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Ann Althouse:

    If a continuing protest declines — and it will ultimately have to decline, unless the authorities break it up — then during the period of decline, the people left in the protest are, more and more, the extremists, the deranged, and the emotionally needy. Few onlookers identify with these people.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    Charlie Rangel tries to make a statement in support of OWS:

  3. timothy2010 says:

    This(these) protests are just like flim flam man. hard to disagree with the nebulous chants of corporate greed and spiraling debt but there is nothing specific. So easy to relate to the anger and frustration.

    • Mimi says:

      Why aren’t they chanting “We want jobs, we want to work!”? Everyone could relate to them then and would stop calling them lazy privileged kids. Then yell at the police “you have a job, we don’t so arrest us to hide us away”. Because the message is so garbled and seemingly whiny I am afraid this is a diversionary tactic of some sort.

      • Jadzia says:

        THAT is brilliant. THAT is a protest I would join.

        • Mimi says:

          This is the core problem. Everyone understands this. How, why, and who did this criminal looting of our economy is complex but the result is obvious. Make it simple. Appeal to almost everyone and it will grow.

  4. votermom says:

    My tin foil hat is twitching. Some in the Obama coterie have been mentioning an “American Autumn” (as in “Arab spring”).

    (Hot air citing Van Jones, frex http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/30/van-jones-its-time-for-an-american-autumn-in-the-spirit-of-the-arab-spring/)

    I am wondering if the WH is actively instigating and manipulating these guys without them knowing it.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Shhhh – that’s my next post

    • Mimi says:

      Me too. And basically from the start. It looks like payback to Wall St for abandoning the One on the campaign contribution sector not paying enough tribute, Alinsky style disorder to hector and threaten, and divert the poor young radicals and the press from the growing crush of scandals (corporate theft of course). It seems like an fairly convoluted episode of the Sopranos. They are using the young white ninnies as shock troops and holding the union thugs and black radicals back for the rough stuff.

    • Mary says:

      Hot Air (Gateway Pundit link) reporting that SEIU has decided to bus in more protesters so the demonstrations won’t look so “lame.” Teacher’s unions also planning on support.

      Van Jones, Unions, etc–doesn’t sound so “tin-foily” now, does it?

      • Mary says:

        Update: Gateway Pundit’s info re SEIU and teacher union support actually came from NPR.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Don’t SEIU employees suck at the corporate teat? So their message would be…….? Not sure the teachers’ union message would be any clearer.

        Well, looks like the dog and pony show will be heading to DC in a couple of weeks, where it belongs and where the “evil police force” will have them for breakfast. Good luck with that kids!

      • HELENK says:

        here is a letter from a public employee union for the protest in Dallas.

        http://biggovernment.com/lstranahan/2011/10/02/whos-behind-the-occupy-everywhere-faux-tests/

        During the 60s the protesters , whether or not you agreed with them thought they were protesting to make the country better. They wanted us out of a war.
        These kids have no idea what they are protesting, and are being used.

        unemployment needs to start in DC asap

    • timothy2010 says:

      The Arab Spring sent my tin foil hat off. Didn’t buy it then that it was a pure orchestrated grassroots movement and I don’t buy it now. Chris Hughes(Facebook) and his myobama shite. Always thought the Bilderberg conspiracy theories were way out there but then when he was invited and attended their last soiree I had to think control the medium control the message.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Red State:

        By the way, does anyone else find it ironic that these people are using Facebook, which had a first half revenue of $1.6 billion in 2011? Why aren’t they protesting at the Facebook HQ (a monument to greed if I ever saw one)?

        • WMCB says:

          It truly is hilarious. I mean, if you are protesting the criminality by the banks and Wall Street, and demanding prosecutions, while carrying a cellphone and wearing Urban Outfitter and blogging on a computer, then that makes sense.

          But saying “Death to Capitalism” while doing all of the above makes you a fucking idiot.

        • WMCB says:

          Damn. Only criminality was supposed to be italicized.

        • Three Wickets says:

          Yes, and in relative terms Google is much bigger. Annual Facebook revenues $3 billion, annual Google revenues $30 billion.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    Have they stopped corporate greed yet ? 😉

    • Mary says:

      You mean, the same corporate greed, non-accountability that the Obama administration enabled and bailed out?

      That corporate greed? 🙂

    • WMCB says:

      You are never, ever, ever going to stop corporate greed i.e. the profit motive. They are conflating that with criminality.

      My biggest question is where are the signs and photos showing or mentioning Obama or Congress? I don’t recall any anti-war protests completely overlooking that GWB was in charge. That’s fishy.

      This, to me, is like protesting at the robber’s house, while completely ignoring the “security service” that disarmed your alarm, opened the door for him and drove the getaway car, as well as the judge who said: “No crime here! *wink wink*

      • Mary says:

        That was kinda my point…although I said it poorly.

        No signs against Obama or Congress. THAT’s fishy.

        • Mimi says:

          That’s what all we cynics have been wondering for days.

        • WMCB says:

          It has become a pattern

          Republicans in office = rage against those in charge of the system, demand Dems get put in charge

          Democrats in office = rage against the system, no mention of who’s in charge

          Oh, and the wars or civil liberties became off-limits subjects for protest the day Obama took office.

      • ralphb says:

        You don’t protest at the robber’s house. The robber usually gets arrested for being a criminal and breaking the law. Just because they can do it, doesn’t free them of the responsibility for their actions.

        It’s not a good thing to conflate the profit motive with criminality.

        • WMCB says:

          It’s not a good thing to conflate the profit motive with criminality.

          Well, not unless you actually are a communist. But we all know that those are just figments of the imagination of the right, and no dangerous extreme radicals even exist as part of the left in America. How laughable!

        • ralphb says:

          It’s also laughable that the thief is not to blame for their crimes but it’s only the enablers who bear any guilt.

        • WMCB says:

          I agree, ralph. But the answer to criminals is perp walks, not destroying all of Wall Street because “capitalism is bad”.

        • Mary says:

          Of course there’s a clear THIEF.

          Without prosecution of same through the SEC or DOJ, those supposedly “watch-keepers, law-enforcers” BECOME enablers.

          Real simple.

  6. Ms. Marple says:

    The King is a Fink.

  7. Three Wickets says:

    @sppeoples: Perry says he’s now working with Steve Forbes to develop economic policies.

    This should be good for rich people.

    • ralphb says:

      Perry also said in New Hampshire that he’s open to American military intervention in Mexico. Woohoo.

      • WMCB says:

        Good Lord. I could see troops along our border, were the border wars to get bad enough (and they almost are in some areas).

        But INTO Mexico? That’s insane.

      • WMCB says:

        Okay, I went and read the quotes, and he was saying “in concert with the Mexican govt”. That makes it a bit less bad. I mean, if things were bad enough that our southern neighbor was in imminent risk of becoming a failed state, we’d kind of have to help if asked.

        But I still don’t think that’s an idea that needs to be just blithely thrown around without stating VERY clearly what the conditions and cautions are.

  8. ralphb says:

    Now this could lead to some protests on a whole different scale.

    Greece due to unveil plan to sack state workers

    (Reuters) – Greece was expected to unveil its plan on Sunday to begin laying off state workers, the most contentious part of a reform package demanded by the EU and IMF to free up loans and stave off bankruptcy.

    Without the release of an 8 billion euro ($10.7 billion)tranche of an EU bailout, massively indebted Greece could run out of money to pay state wage bills within weeks.

  9. WMCB says:

    This Marine is such a class act. He refused to have a special exception to the rules made just for him. Would that there were more “silly and pointless standing by one’s principles” in this jaded country.

    NEW YORK — A former Marine who was awarded the Medal of Honor bowed out of his quest Tuesday to join the New York City Fire Department after a federal judge denied his request to extend the application deadline for all aspiring firefighters — not just him.

    The judge had been willing to grant a 24-hour application extension for Sgt. Dakota Meyer, who saved the lives of 36 people during an ambush in Afghanistan two years ago. Meyer missed the FDNY’s application deadline because he was busy with official Medal of Honor commitments and ceremonies, said Keith Sullivan, his attorney.

    But when the city offered to reopen the application process to the public, Brooklyn Judge Nicholas Garaufis refused, saying a brief extension would create a risk of “adverse impact” on minority groups who are under-represented in the ranks of the FDNY. Instead, the judge agreed to grant Meyer a one-day exception because he is “one exceptional individual.”

    That didn’t seem fair to Meyer, who charged five times in a Humvee into heavy gunfire in the darkness of an Afghanistan valley to rescue comrades under attack from Taliban insurgents.

    “Dakota refuses to compromise his values,” Sullivan said Tuesday. “He said he would like to thank the city of New York and the people who have shown him so much support, but he couldn’t in good conscience take a one-person exception. He will apply for the exam when it’s given again in four years.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/APc3e02c19743f491abeaef463d26cacac.html

  10. yttik says:

    I don’t think these are “peasants.” I think these are more entitled and privileged people who are actually starting to piss off the peasants. It’s kind of hard to empathize with people saying “they took our jobs and our homes” when the people chanting don’t look like they’ve ever had a job or owned a home.

  11. Three Wickets says:

    Paul Ryan reviews Jeffrey Sachs in the WSJ. Would have expected more fireworks.

  12. Most at pumapac.org are supporting the protests.

    It’s morning on the West Coast. Here are some links to NYC coverage I found last night (and posted at h44 at hillaryis44.org/2011/09/28/chris-christie-or-willard-mitt-romney-the-michael-vick-of-dog-transportation/ ). Some of them may be clickable at h44.


    We are getting kicked out of our homes. We are forced to choose between groceries and rent. We are denied quality medical care. We are suffering from environmental pollution. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we’re working at all. We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything.
    wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

    Good coverage at these PUMA blogs:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2011/09/30/occupywallstreet-respect-yourself/

    susiemadrak.com/?p=25770

    blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/10/01/bloomberg-contemplates-shutting-occupywallstreet-defend-wall-street-73561/

    Not PUMA?

    crooksandliars.com/ian-murphy/hot-presses-occupied-wall-street-journa
    Some bashing of Obama here, no one defending him.

    crooksandliars.com/ian-murphy/hot-presses-occupied-wall-street-journa#comment-1937675
    Links to similar events in other countries.

    occupywallst.org/
    when approached as individuals, members of the NYPD have expressed solidarity with our cause. It has been inspiring to receive this support. Over these thirteen days, we have learned that no one supports corporations’ disproportionate influence in the political sphere. We have learned that no one is in favor of evicting struggling families to the street while banks continue to profit. No one, that is, except the corporations and banks. We urge members of the NYPD to remain in solidarity with our cause. These men and women could lose their pensions and benefits during the next round of budget cuts. We ask that members of the NYPD treat all peaceful human beings with respect and care. This will be a great step towards reclaiming power for the working class. Those who profit off the suffering of others will held accountable. We are the 99%, and we are too big to fail.

    More coverage:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/by-the-time-we-got-to-wall-street-we-were-half-a-million-strong/

    correntewire.com/occupy_the_brooklyn_bridge#more
    [Conversation with a cop:]
    Then he let loose and let it all come out. He sympathised with the marchers. He had kids, he was worried about their education. About genetically modified food. About the way America was going.

    [ And Guardian and Al Jazeera ]

    • yttik says:

      This is a protest to re-elect Obama. Those protesters are being used. Donna Brazille told us if we didn’t elect Obama there would be riots. At least a dozen liberal pundits have recently repeated that meme.

  13. They’re revolting against Obama, anyway.

    Drudge forgot to say the DNA test results aren’t in.

    His headline claims OWS is supporting Obama’s tax plan. The OWS article he links to is very sceptical of Obama (though saying there is some common ground in O’s claims for his tax plan and urging a letterwriting campaign TO Obama). This is stuff that many H44 and Crawdad posters have been supporting for a long time: ending loopholes etc.

    The article comments are full of negative statements about Obama. I haven’t seen any positives.

    I’m going to post this much before my keyboard eats it.

    https://occupywallst.org/forum/president-obama-and-the-occupy-wall-st-protesters-/

    This is NOT about SUPPORTING Obama> This is about USING an opportunity and a common goal to achieve forward movement> IE> Bring corporations down to size,, MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE Make THEM STOP KILLING PEOPLE
    I Really gotta love the length of some of the responses trying to “teach” me about crooked govt. and corporations> Yes I am ALL too AWARE> Want to discuss GM Foods? Chemtrailing? etc…WRITE IT TO OBAMA WRITE ABOUT IT TO OBAMA> WRITE AN ARTICLE AND SPREAD IT ON THE INTERNET> We all KNOW many of the Conspiracy theorist (myself included) are right SNTCA02> I have files and files of info from decades of tracking crookedness Whether we LIKE the President or NOT is NOT the POINT> HOW would you think “Not hearing from Obama is No Big Deal”? Of course it would be. We have a lot of clean up to do and in the process will have to deal through many existing crooked levels of govt. to do it, this means communicating> 6 Corporations RUN THE WORLD< INCLUDING Our PRESIDENT
    [….]
    I mentioned posting on Obama's Facebook page to tell him that he has proven to NOT be for the people by not responding/helping with this protest.
    [….]
    Obama's tax-talk is just talk. Just trying to look like the 'lesser evil' but the two-party system is a false paradigm. Ignore the talk, watch what they do, very carefully. I do. Obama appointed about 40 CEO's/lobbyists to top gov positions, including JP Morgan's man as his Chief of Staff, Monsanto man to head up USDA, another Monsanto man to head up Food Safety at USDA and despite the fact GE shipped out 200,000 US jobs, Obama appointed GE's CEO for JobCzar. Obama appointed Feinberg to handle claims for the victims of the Gulf oil disaster but Feinberg's usual clients include EXXON, DOW, DuPont, Raytheon, Citibank and dozens of other corporations, all just a greedy. It's no wonder some fishermen have not seen a penny; now they're broke and sick from the poisonous dispersant.
    Obama did not speak up for, or walk, with the workers in Wisconsin like he promised he would, because he doesn't stand up for regular People at all. Obama went out of his way to protect BP when he told the world the Gulf is safe. IT IS NOT as millions of gallons of POISON were sprayed on it (oil is still leaking so poison is spraying still). Corexit, the dispersant has one 'Environmental Precaution: Do not contaminate surface water" and the main ingredient of Corexit 9527A, is classified as "POISONOUS MATERIAL" by the gov… this is about so much more than taxes! Third party is the only way to go; we should only support TRUTH. MSM is a tool owned by the oligarchs (6 corps own it all). TPTB use MSM to tell the People what TPTB want the People to hear. They hide the shifty Executive orders, truth about wars, drones in Pakistan, Yemen, Syria and humanitarian bombing in Libya (shhh, it's a coup). The hide the fact oil is still leaking from BP's well and they hide this movement.
    Just remember the corporate appointments by this 'Let them eat poison' POTUS and I hope you realize it's best not to waste a minute counting on Obama, or 99% of federal lawmakers! Save the stamp or better yet, send a letter to a soldier and tell him/her you're doing what you can to bring them home. Everyone knows the GOP are owned by the Corporation, but look around, Dems are too. Less evil is just a more effective evil… they play that good cop-o-bad cop routine and too many people have fallen for it. We deserve better but anyone from Uniparty Inc is not the solution. Do not expect change from the ones who brought us here!
    [….]
    What you fail to realize is Obama is a front man for Wall Street despite his rhetoric. Do your research and you will find that they were the largest contributors to his campaign. Bill Daley, the President's Chief of Staff, was a Wall Street minion before joining the White House. He was either employed by JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.
    Obama's administration is full of Wall Street figures.
    WALL STREET OWNS OBAMA. HE'S COMPROMISED.
    [….]

    • PS. At OWS’s website forum, I found only two headers mentioning Obama. Both those articles were negative.

      The longest one, I quoted from above. The short one just makes fun of some Obama fundraising and says OWS should picket their fundraising event.

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