I knew I smelled astroturf

New York Times:

On Wall Street, a Protest Matures

“I think a good deal of the bankers should be in jail.”

That is what Andrew Cole, an unemployed 24-year-old graduate of Bucknell University, told me Monday morning in Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Mr. Cole, an articulate young man dressed in jeans, a sweatshirt and with a blue wool beanie on his head, had just arrived by bus from Madison, Wis., where he recently lost his job.

Oh, poor baby!

Oh, wait! Professor Jacobson:

The New York Times does not tell us where Cole was working prior to being laid off. Must be construction, or perhaps one of those state workers brutalized by the evil Gov. Scott Walker and the Koch Brothers. Or perhaps some heartless business which puts profits over people.

No, a simple Google search reveals that Cole is a professional progressive operative, having worked — according to his LinkedIn profile – for the past three years for the Progressive Patriots Fund, which he still lists at his employer:

September 2008 – Present (3 years 2 months)

Trained and dispatched by Senator Russ Feingold’s PAC to work in the field for Eric Massa’s congressional campaign in New York’s 29th district. Responsibilities included volunteer recruitment, voter contact, and coordinating the GOTV push for a campaign satellite office in Canandaigua, NY.

There’s more, but you gotta go over to Legal Insurrection to read it.

Now you might say that proves nothing. Maybe.

But I know someone who gave a measly $500 to a Republican candidate once, and eight years later that fact was offered as proof that the entire PUMA movement was a GOP ratfucking operation.

She wasn’t a professional political operative. Andrew Cole is.

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65 Responses to I knew I smelled astroturf

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Weren’t the Wall Street kids demanding the end of debt collectors and credit reporting agencies? Maybe this will make some Obama signs pop-up 😀


  2. WMCB says:

    Sorry, but I can’t get behind a movement that has lots of shades of Communist Agitprop, and professional agitators lying their asses off about being just another poor unemployed student.

    I am not a fucking revolutionary or communist, and I do not hate capitalism. Statism is abhorrent to me. And if that is what the Left in this country now thinks that being “Liberal” means, and if that is who wants to take over the Democratic Party, then they can kiss my ass – I will fight these bastards to my dying breath.

    Flame away, but if these agitators think that even long-time Liberals in this country are all primed and ready for the glorious worker’s paradise, they have another think coming.

    • Dario says:

      You sound so 1950s

      • WMCB says:

        No, they sound so 1930’s. And quite frankly, I’m sick of the spectre of McCarthyism being used to shut down any mention at all that real communism really did exist, and still does, and would like nothing better than to destroy this country as we know it.

        Just because I have been, and still AM, very pissed off at a lot of the cronyism that has corrupted our system does not mean think that is a reason to fundamentally change our Democratic Republic into something else entirely.

        I am not a Statist. Period. Liberal does not = Statist who hates capitalism.

      • teresainpa says:

        if you want to know what is wrong with communism ask anyone who has actually had to live with it. Ask the Cubans or Ukrainians….. Communist dilettante American youth still living off of mommy or daddy should go live in North Korea and then tell us all how wonderful communism is.
        However the Obots working the crowd at OWS are more fascist youth. They support Obama who has done more to wed government to business than even Bush 2.

    • gxm17 says:

      I dunno, WMCB. Something tells me that anti-capitalist commie revolutionaries would pick a different flag to fly.

      • ralphb says:

        No shit. Equating these kids to commie revolutionaries is a lot like calling the tea partiers fascist. It may feel good but it’s wrong.

        • WMCB says:

          I didn’t say all those kids are. I said that there is a lot of radical left agitprop going on in the midst of these rallies, and I don’t like it.

      • WMCB says:

        Have you listened to Van Jones? Or many (not all) of the others in the progressive movement? What flag they fly is not at issue.

        Sorry, but outright class warfare and and demonization of profit in itself is classic revolutionary pablum, as is demanding crap like a perpetual guaranteed living wage regardless of whether one is employed or not.

        I don’t want Wall Street to go away. nor the banks, nor the rich, nor capitalism, nor corporations. I want them out of bed with my govt, and my govt out of bed with them. I want CEO’s punished for <ithe laws they have broken. I want our social safety nets to be fixed, and remain just that – safety nets. That is not the same thing as “capitalism and horrible colonialist Amerika is responsible for all the world’s ills”. And yeah, I am seeing with my own eyes a lot of that kind of utter bullshit at these protests.

        • ralphb says:

          I agree with that but don’t think most of the people at these whateve they ares know who Van Jones is or what he thinks. Lots of this bullshit is just confused, angry kids who don’t have anyplace where they have faith they can make a difference.

        • votermom says:

          Lots of this bullshit is just confused, angry kids who don’t have anyplace where they have faith they can make a difference.

          I agree. Real anger, confused goals, misplaced targets. They should march on the WH.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Communism and libertarianism both work a lot better in theory than in practice.

          I believe in regulated free market capitalism with social safety nets.

        • Dario says:

          I think that provocateurs (fascists and communists) will use any organic demonstration to take advantage of the movement, like thieves after a disaster, but the majority of people who get into demonstrations are lodging their discontent.

          Also, I think that the difference between fascism in Europe and communism as instituted in the U.S.S.R. is small because the repression of the individual is the same.

        • WMCB says:

          Ralph, I completely agree with you that most of them are confused angry kids. That’s not my point. My point is that there is a lot of professional stuff going on to push those kids in a particular direction.

          The teapartiers from what I could see actively resisted getting co-opted, and that may have partly been a function of a lot of them being older. I don’t see that these kids have that kind of protection of political and life experience. I am watching them get fed and regurgitate a lot of bullshit – without having the wisdom and maturity to recognize it as such.

          *shrug* If anyone wants to paint that concern as my seeing communists under every bush, feel free. I know I’m not. I’m not hysterical, I’m suspicious. Anyone else is free to disagree.

        • gxm17 says:

          Pretty much any political or social ideology that includes homo sapiens is going to work better in theory than in practice.

  3. Mimi says:

    So Obama for Obama.org is sending in agent provocateurs. Who could have guessed?

  4. Dario says:

    had just arrived by bus from Madison, Wis., where he recently lost his job.

    Madison, Wis., Madison, Wis., That name sounds familiar. It must have been in the news lately. Oh yeah, union people were occupying the capitol building. Maybe he lost that job. He must be constantly on the move from one demonstration to another.

  5. yttik says:

    Not only can you smell astroturf, I think you can see it, too. There’s a whole lot of clean kids with expensive clothes and all sorts of electronic gadgets.

  6. ralphb says:

    It wasn’t so long ago that I remember most of us not being fond of the Tea Party being thought of as just astroturf when Dick Armey and that crowd of fucking losers began taking over parts of it.

    Unless we just want to bitch about these folks, why not see where it goes and how well the professional progressives succeed in completely co-opting these people. From their lists of demands etc, I doubt those came from professionals.

    As far as being stupid goes, there’s not a lot of room between some young dipshit who wants education to be free and an older dipshit carrying a sign to keep the government’s hands off their Medicare.

    • votermom says:

      I hope you will frontpage if you go to the Austin one, ralph! I’d love to hear an on the ground report from someone I know isn’t koolaided.

      • ralphb says:

        I’m going to try and get my daughter the shrink to go down with me and get some idea of what’s happening locally. She’s the most level headed, fully centered person I know and between us maybe we can learn something.

  7. WMCB says:

    The female CBS reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, who broke the Fast and Furious scandal went on Laura Ingraham’s show, and talked about the WH yelling at her, and trying to shut her down:

    From the transcript:
    1:31 – In between the yelling that I received from Justice Department yesterday, the spokeswoman–who would not put anything in writing, I was asking for her explanation so there would be clarity and no confusion later over what had been said, she wouldn’t put anything in writing–so we talked on the phone and she said things such as the question Holder answered was different than the one he asked. But he phrased it, he said very explicitly, ‘I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.’

    6:05 – Laura: So they were literally screaming at you?

    Attkisson: Yes. Well the DOJ woman was just yelling at me. The guy from the White House on Friday night literally screamed at me and cussed at me. [Laura: Who was the person? Who was the person at Justice screaming?] Eric Schultz. Oh, the person screaming was [DOJ spokeswoman] Tracy Schmaler, she was yelling not screaming. And the person who screamed at me was Eric Schultz at the White House.”

    7:33 – Laura: Do we know the exact number [of guns] that went over to Mexico?
    Attkisson: We know more than 2,000 in Fast and Furious and I will soon be reporting on the fact that that is not the only case. 2,000 for that operation according to the agents involved.

    8:28 – …Is it sort of a drip, drip. And I’m certainly not the one to make the case for DOJ and White House about what I’m doing wrong. They will tell you that I’m the only reporter–as they told me–that is not reasonable. They say the Washington Post is reasonable, the LA Times is reasonable, the New York Times is reasonable, I’m the only one who thinks this is a story, and they think I’m unfair and biased by pursuing it.


    The WH is scared shitless of this whole Fast and Furious thing.

  8. murphy says:

    “But I know someone who gave a measly $500 to a Republican candidate once, and eight years later that fact was offered as proof that the entire PUMA movement was a GOP ratfucking operation.
    She wasn’t a professional political operative. Andrew Cole is.”



  9. ralphb says:

    OT but looks like Dick didn’t like the term “Durbin Fee”.

    “Durbin: Hey, who’s up for a bank run on BofA?”


    • WMCB says:

      Good Lord. Yeah, a senator publicly calling for a bank run on a specific bank is not, like, completely fucking irresponsible or anything.

  10. ralphb says:

    statement I pulled off the occupyaustin site.

    Be warned, fellow 99ers: efforts are already in place to tie our movement to leftist organizations such as MoveOn.org and the re-election campaign for President Obama. The Drudge Report, InfoWars (Alex Jones), and anonymous commentators on mainstream news sites are beginning en masse to try to link our movement to various established leftist organizations, with absolutely no evidence to back up their claims (although in the case of InfoWars, this is nothing new).

    This is a lie. The Occupy Movement is neither Republican nor Democrat, and does not call for the re-election of Obama or for the election of any other politician. Furthermore, we are definitely not affiliated with MoveOn.org, who are bankrolled by the very people we oppose: Wall Street bankers and billionaires such as George Soros.

  11. WMCB says:

    Those terrorist obstructionist Democrats who want to see the president fail just blocked any vote on his jobs bill.

  12. Uppity Woman says:

    I see the Community Organizer In Chief’s fingerprints all over this thing. A little smoke. A diversion. A blame shift. You know, the regular Axerod stuff. Then there’s the web page with the Everything List of Gimmee and Gimmee Now demands. With the pumping fist graphic. Only those of the pumping fist would imagine that a salary for doing nothing is a great idea. So there’s some help there from The Community Organizer’s friends there in that fringe party. It’s not as if Americans weren’t warned about what a “Community Organizer” in Chicago does best. Over the heads of all these OFA demonstrators is Obama gave wall street all that money to keep on keeping on. If these useful idiots were sincere, they would be standing in front of the White House right now, not Wall Street. But then, OFA would never let that happen.

  13. bandit08 says:

    This is a lie. The Occupy Movement is neither Republican nor Democrat, and does not call for the re-election of Obama or for the election of any other politician.

    It’s just liberal arts majors who found out you couldn’t live on minimum wage in NYC.

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