Fight Like A Girl: Lessons learned from Hillary to Sarah

Never Say Never

What have we learned from the journeys of Hillary & Sarah? What knowledge have they bought us with their valiant struggles against media immolation and backdoor power shenanigans?

Two women, equally impressive in record and accomplishment, of opposing politics, of different generations, both beloved by the voters of their party’s base, share a remarkably parallel journey that has done more to reveal the truth about our rotten political system in 4 years than most of us could ever imagine.

One: A strong woman leader, one who is determined to lead, will be ostracized, attacked, and backstabbed by her own party establishment. Their own party’s establishment will break any rule, move any date, do everything, to prevent the base from voting for them.  A strong woman’s greatest obstacle to cracking the ultimate glass ceiling is her own party.

Two: The media will lie shamelessly, repeatedly and filthily, to convince us that a strong woman leader is unacceptable. They will invite us to rhetorically stone her and goad us to commit atrocities against her. The media is the propaganda arm of the establishment’s backers.

Three: That a strong woman leader will nevertheless endure and thrive and do what she does best – lead. Whether it’s Hillary Clinton in the State Department keeping the USA safe despite the President’s booberies, or Sarah Palin in Wasilla as the lone voice in politics with the guts to point out the Crony Capitalism is what is killing the USA — you just can’t get these women to shut up and sit down.

Four: That we, the people, deserve better than this rotten DonkyPhant of a political party. A party that presents a liberal face to the left, and a conservative face to the right, but really is in place only to ensure the continued looting of the country for the benefit of the most powerful. One of the greatest things we can do for our children’s future will be to destroy the DonkyPhant party and the permanent political class for ever. This is not democracy. This is plutocracy. This is the slow death of everything our country was founded on. Don’t consent to it. Resist. Reform. Restore.

Whether you count yourself a PUMA, a Tea-Partier, or a 99%er, we all share one goal – to restore democracy to America.

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72 Responses to Fight Like A Girl: Lessons learned from Hillary to Sarah

  1. votermom says:

    Hillary & Sarah continue to inspire me. I will try hard to emulate their unrelenting optimism.

  2. soupcity says:

    HONK! Great post and I so agree about their unrelenting optimism in spite of all they’ve had to endure. Thank You, votermom!

  3. I guess there is a part of me that is relieved. I don’t have to bleed my soul into yet another race toward parity. And female representation.

    Sorry. But that’s about all the optimism I can muster today.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Breaking News email from CNN for Zippy’s speech:

    President Obama today will push Congress to act on his jobs plan and credit Senate Democrats for taking action on jobs, according to a senior administration official.

    The president is also likely to endorse a “millionaire’s surtax” — a rate increase on those earning $1 million or more.

    Obama will speak live at 11 a.m. ET. Join CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Suzanne Malveaux and Gloria Borger on CNN TV and CNN.com/Live for full coverage.

    Watch live coverage now on http://CNN.com/Live

    • votermom says:

      Words words words

    • Mary says:

      Obama’s sh*t outta luck.

      Reid , Durbin, and Schumer have already admitted they don’t have the Democratic votes to pass the bill as is. Read that again: Obama can’t even get full support from his own Democrats for this piece of crap.

      Reid suggested a 5% tax on millionaires instead. Read that as Reid et al DO NOT support the tax increases on the $200,000 and $250,000 categories.

      Obama knows all this , but keeps playing demagogue.

      • votermom says:

        Now that cheers me up. 🙂

      • Three Wickets says:

        Estimated revenue gain from the millionaire tax would be $50 billion a year or $500 billion over 10 years which for comparison would only be about 13% of the total cost (direct revenue loss) of extending all the Bush tax cuts for 10 years. For another comparison, the $500 billion in new revenue over 10 years from the millionaire tax would pay for the approx $500 billion cost of the Jobs Act which would be frontloaded over 10 years.

        • WMCB says:

          And that is assuming that a) the majority of millionaires do not find ways to offshore or reduce that income, and b) the cost of the jobs bill does not run over (and it always does).

          I know one thing. If I was making 1.1 million at my business, I’d reduce my profits down to 999,000. If I had to lay off Sally and Bob to do it, oh well.

    • I am watching the press conference- and I am confused. Did I miss the House passing this bill? He keeps going on about any Senator that votes against needs to answer why.

      • DeniseVB says:

        He’s not taking many questions …. nor is he making any sense in his long winded responses. I now pronouce this a faux presser hidden in a campaign speech.

        Occupy Wall Street question …. are you following ? He saw it on TV!

  5. yttik says:

    If we really want to restore democracy the most effective way to do it is to make sure the will of the people becomes such a powerful voice that politicians fear us. At the top there are three branches of government, the guy that plays golf and reads words off a teleprompter, congress, and the supreme court. But in reality they all serve at the consent of the governed and the biggest force in this country is We the People. We could try to elect one person with integrity into the presidency and hope they wage a single handed war against crony capitalism and corruption, but they would be only one person with a whole lot of cheerleaders in the background. One person against 435 congresscritters, wall street, lobbyists, big money, the media, the courts. One thing Obama was right about, change comes from the bottom up. If we want to change the way we do business in this country, we need to bring it on.

  6. jjmtacoma says:

    I agree.

    Women should be freaking out considering how far we haven’t come. We can come close, but somehow we aren’t allowed to collect any good prizes.

  7. ralphb says:

    Thanks votermom! Very powerful post. I feel a little better now, even if my optimism may be tattered,

  8. yttik says:

    I think we have to be philosophical about it all. Politics isn’t all about winning. It really is about how you play the game. Victories can be as empty and meaningless as a Nobel peace prize.

    Obama “won” the last election and has now done more to lift up the Republican party then Karl Rove could ever have imagined. So who really “won” in the last election?

    We also need to stop letting the media define success. Both Hillary and Palin have had their political obits written so many times I’ve lost count. They’ve both been called “quitters” and “losers.” And yet these two “quitters” have become even more powerful, gained even higher approval ratings, become even more influential.

    • ralphb says:

      Politics isn’t all about winning

      It’s not only to the loser. Politics is war by other means. Who really won the last presidential election? Obama won the election and his donors/funders have collected the spoils to prove it. Whoever wins the next election will also have donors/funders to collect the spoils of victory.

      This is not about Democrat or Republican anymore. It’s about the donor class against the rest of us. It’s class warfare which has been going full blast for the last 30 years and “we” are losing big.

      As for influence via popularity, who cares? You can have approval ratings as high as the sky but, without the office to change anything, it’s worth squat. Influence is only important when there is power behind it. The Dalai Lama is popular but Tibet is still not free.

      • yttik says:

        Well, Tibet is a victim of communist China. Communism is not a user friendly system to try to make change in. That’s apples an oranges.

        If you truly believe that we are engaged in class warfare, then they only way to change the system would be from outside of it. If the donor class really rules the country, then the president serves at the will of the donor class. If that’s the case, then the system can’t be changed from the inside, it’s got to come from the bottom up. Palin (or anybody) can’t run on a platform of stopping crony capitalism, while also trying to get crony capitalists to fund her campaign and support her presidency.

        • ralphb says:

          That’s pretty much right. I think that’s the origin of the shackles verbage.

        • ralphb says:

          By the way, can you deny that the donor class pretty much controls politics and policy in this country at the federal level?

        • yttik says:

          “By the way, can you deny that the donor class pretty much controls politics and policy in this country at the federal level?”

          I think so, because even the donor class serves at the will of the people. Wall street and the media didn’t elect Obama, a bunch of misguided people fell for his BS.

          Rather then being victims of wealth and power, I think we’re victims of our own stupidity. That’s not any more comforting then believing a secret powerful coup rules our country, but I think it gives us a place to start.

        • ralphb says:

          There’s nothing secret about it. Have the will of the people remove George Soros money why don’t you? Report back when he’s poor.

        • Three Wickets says:

          Maybe a step closer.. 🙂

          The European Court of Human Rights ruled Thursday that France did not violate George Soros’ rights when convicting him of insider trading, defeating a years-long effort by the billionaire financier to clear his name.

        • ralphb says:

          🙂

      • votermom says:

        I think for Sarah she did want to run but something made her decide that she would not win this time.
        She’s saying she will concentrate on the down-ticket races. SOunds like her plan B.

        • She’s young (and so are her children).

        • votermom says:

          Yes, she’s young enough to run later when her kids are older.
          Assume we get a RINO pres in 2012, he’ll probably be a one-termer.
          If Hillary runs in 2016* – gets 2 terms, Sarah has a good shot at 2024 and she’ll only be 60.

          Or if Hillary decides not to run in 2016 (for whatever reason), and we get a Dino in 2016, Sarah could run in 2020 and she’l be 56.

          *(Hillary will only be 69 in 2016)

      • Michael Teuber says:

        With respect, ‘winning’ is a verb whose value is determined by its object.

        Marie Barone: “To you I’m just a ‘Trophy Wife’!”
        Frank Barone: “‘Trophy Wife’? What contest in Hell did I win?”

        Mr. ‘Bi-Winning’ won Ashton Kutcher a job.

        There will be those who will argue that we must support the eventual Democratic or Republican nominee so that ‘we’ can win. Perhaps some, none here I assume, will sit at home on election night waving their little Elephant or Donkey pennant and indulge in schadenfreude at the downcast countenance of Wolf Blitzer or Sean Hannity. Like fans of professional sports franchises they will feel elevated self-esteem for 24-72hrs. The only tangible rewards will go to the ‘Permanent Political Class’ in the form of undeserved corporate contracts, bailouts, loans, and subsidies, patronage jobs, and political appointments.

        We win when the ‘Permanent Political Class’ loses.

  9. votermom says:

    Someone on c4p said Sarah was on the Bob & Mark radio show explaining her decision. 2 of the kids didn’t want her to run. (Sarah implied Piper was ok with her running)

    here’s the interview
    http://barbaricthoughts.com/2011/10/video-palin-on-her-decision-not-to-run-on-the-bob-and-mark-show/

    • votermom says:

      around the 8:30 mark:

      “I came very close to saying yes. I certainly did not want to string people along….No, it was in these last few days that some strong confirmations and some final discussions with family where I decided no…”

      horse’s head in one of the kid’s beds?

    • votermom says:

      At the end the radio hosts realized that Piper was there and asked to speak to her.
      “Piper, do you wish your mom was running for President?”
      Piper: “Yeah.”

    • ralphb says:

      That was interesting. Honestly I can’t blame her for not wanting to crawl around in the political sewer with the other rats.

  10. Three Wickets says:

    Great post vm. I also think Obot Progressives have bashed both Hillary and Sarah a lot more brutally than any Republicans or others on the right, as least since 2007.

  11. Three Wickets says:

    In the Grio. Is black America sitting out ‘Occupy Wall Street’?

    He spent 12 hours in a cell before being released and he started to notice something else that was bothering him — the lack of African-Americans involved and doing the ‘occupying’.

    “I could probably count on one hand the number of black people that are here, and I probably know them all,” Henry said from Occupy Wall Street ‘headquarters’ at Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan. “It’s not that blacks are rejecting the movement, they just don’t believe in it yet.”

    • Dario says:

      The ows is a demonstration against Wall Street, but indirectly is a demonstration against the government in Washington. I think the blacks understand that and are not ready to demonstrate against Obama.

      The funny thing is that Obama is speaking as if the discontent with Wall Street is not about him too.

  12. Lola-at-Large says:

    I so wish people would take your advice in your last full paragraph. There are lots of overlapping interests between so many otherwise disparate political groups, it’s a shame we can’t all get alone well enough to accomplish this one thing–the elimination of the political class. This cooties game we play with each other is so wrought with peril. And it’s a game designed to make sure we stay fractured. Isn’t it a pity?

    • votermom says:

      Yes. I’ve been trying to tell people for a while, and they nod and say yes, then the next day they start screaming about how evil those guys over there are.

      The tribal wars keep the permanent political class in power.

      • ralphb says:

        In talking with my daughter about the occupy things, she said it would probably be a mistake to even try and generate a coherent message from it. Their biggest challenge would be that there is no realistic way to keep “the usual suspects” from trying to co-opt it for their pet causes. It seems to her, and to me, that people are just upset about the direction of the country but don’t have a good way to change it.

        She had the same thing to say about the tea party groups and the assorted, more organized groups which have sprung from it. She has a point as people who watch the competing tea party nation, tea party express and so on compete for attention.

        I think she is correct that if the ordinary occupier and ordinary tea partier ever spoke, they would find a lot in common but any leaders never will..

  13. DeniseVB says:

    Good article on the Sarah-Says-No aftermath….not too kind to certain conservative bloggers either….nice shout out to Jacobson though.

    http://spectator.org/archives/2011/10/06/sarah-says-no

    The 2012 campaign will now go on without the Republican Party’s biggest political star, who as recently as Labor Day drew hundreds to hear her speak in Manchester, N.H., where the crowd chanted, “Run, Sarah, run!” Like her enemies — now deprived of their pet scapegoat — Palin’s supporters will have to look elsewhere for inspiration. In Iowa, where Palin’s disappointed volunteers gathered in a bar to share their sorrow, Michelle McCormick said she wasn’t planning to join any other campaign, but would return to Texas. “I’m anxious to get back to work and get my paycheck,” she laughed, and pondered a worst-case scenario for next fall’s election. “Truth be told, if it comes down to RomneyCare vs. ObamaCare in 2012 — good God, that’s gonna be rough.”

    • ralphb says:

      They are not through piling on yet either. David Frum and a few others are spewing like mad now. Kind of an extended hate fest.

      • votermom says:

        Are they trying to create conservative pumas on purpose?

        • ralphb says:

          Beats me but it seems that way. Guess they learned from Obiteme 2008. You also see trolling, just like in ’08, of the “You didn’t really support Sarah if you don’t vote for the nominee” variety.

        • WMCB says:

          It’s eerily like 2008. There are still sane voices saying “C’mon, guys! Don’t mock – don;t you want them on the side of whoever the evntual nominee is?” Actually there are more non-Palin supporters defending her, than there were non-Hillary supporters defending in 2008. But the asshats are definitely out today.

  14. gxm17 says:

    I hate to admit it but a part of me is relieved that we won’t have to go through another misogyny mudfest. But then there’s the other part of me that’s deeply sad for our country.

    And, finally, there’s the part of me that is still angry. Angry at TPTB who purchased the presidency and angry at the fools who steamrolled the Big Zero into office. Last night the Dems called me asking for money. I gave the guy on the phone an earful telling him that I will not give them my money or my vote until they start fielding liberals who will fight for liberal policies. So then he goes into the “but the big bad GOP” defense, at which point I got mad and started yelling: Do you think I’m stupid? Do you think I don’t know that Obama had a Democratic majority for two years… and all he could walk away with was Romneycare? Hell, I might as well vote for Mittens himself!

    So, on the bright side, at least we’ll just be getting beat down with the “scary GOP menz” nightstick and not the “dumb bimbo c**t” cudgel.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      Not me. I want to have it out to the very end, even if it means standing strong while being called a cunt, a bitch, a slut, a witch, a raycist, or whatever. I want a woman there every time calling attention to our sorry state as a nation and the lies we tell ourselves about women’s progress. I want a misogyny-fest every time until the stupid men in our political class are completely discredited by their own actions. I want to storm the damn gates until we gt to 51%, screw a bunch of 30% nonsense. More Janes, less Dicks!

      • ralphb says:

        HONK!

      • votermom says:

        You make me optimistic. Way to go, Lola!

      • gxm17 says:

        LaL, I admire your fighting spirit. Still, I find it disheartening that talented, competent, and smart women keep getting relegated to the back of the bus—if not thrown under it. I’m ready for a timeout. Now if another female player enters the field I will be off the fence in a heartbeat.

  15. Dario says:

    …a strong woman leader will nevertheless endure and thrive and do what she does best – lead.

    Honk! So let’s remember that. Palin has been active and influential. She will continue to be who she is.

  16. Betty says:

    Thank you for this post it doesn’t make me feel better but at least it documents in a small way what these two women faced and from whom they face it.

    “Two women, equally impressive in record and accomplishment, of opposing politics, of different generations, both beloved by the voters of their party’s base, share a remarkably parallel journey that has done more to reveal the truth about our rotten political system in 4 years than most of us could ever imagine.” say it over and over again.

  17. foxyladi14 says:

    she will liven up the election cycle as only she can. 🙂

  18. Betty says:

    There is one more thing I would like to say. Four years ago I probably wouldn’t have noticed that there was no American Flag in view during Obama’s press conference this morning. Four years ago if someone else had noticed and pointed it out to me I would have thought they are right wingers looking for some got-ya crap.

    I was offended today by that press conference, Obama is not Pharaoh no matter how much gold he stands in front of. And did anyone else notice how he likes to include himself in the millionaire bracket? G** he stinks.

  19. Dario says:

    Palin will have to repair her relationship with her supporters. She took too long to make up her mind. That’s too bad. I’m not saying that it’s irreparable, but it’s definitely damaged.

  20. yttik says:

    Here is “Palin’s Restoring America Together” video:

  21. votermom says:

    Sarah’s brother posted this on a c4p thread:
    http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/10/sarah-palin-talks-about-not-running-on-the-bob-and-mark-show.html#comment-328175532

    chuckjr 2 hours ago
    I would like to personally thank all of you who have worked so hard and really thrown your hearts into supporting Sarah. I, like many of you, was really disappointed in her decision but I completely understand it. I don’t think there are many people out there who could begin to understand the scrutiny her family has been under. As for you who think that Sarah strung you along; as late as last week, right after I interviewed with Steve Bannon, I talked with Sarah and she was still pushing hard and contemplating a run. After a lot of prayers, and finally, through respect for her own family’s wishes, she chose to wait this one out.

    Be assured that Sarah’s not done. She will continue to be a force in the political world and I’m sure she’ll be holding whoever’s elected in any important upcoming elections accountable for their actions. In my opinion, I believe she’ll arise again even stronger than before.

    Please try to respect her decision, and once again, thank you so much for the support you’ve shown her.

    Sincerely,
    Chuck Heath, Jr.
    Sarah’s brother

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  23. Jadzia says:

    A little late to the party here (bronchitis, ugh), but Votermom, this was a beautiful post. All of you who stayed there in the fight are my heroines and heroes.

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