That didn’t work out so well

NBC Washington:

Protesters Force Closing of Air and Space Museum

For most of this week, the growing crowds of the “Occupy D.C.” movement have carried out their demonstrations peacefully. But matters threatened to spin out of control on Saturday afternoon when a group of protesters tried to enter the Air and Space Museum.

The protest was organized by October2011 with participation from members of Occupy DC.

According to Smithsonian spokesperson Linda St. Thomas, a crowd of “about 100 to 200 people” tried to enter through the museum’s Mall entrance.

“They were carrying signs and a lot of protest materials,” St. Thomas said in a statement. “You cannot bring that stuff into the museum under any circumstances.”

According to St. Thomas, the crowd tried to shove its way into the museum after being denied entry by security.

“One security guard was grabbed and pinned against the wall. He could not extract himself,” the spokesperson said. “Another security guard came over to help him and ended up pepper-spraying one person.”

Videos quickly circulated online showing Smithsonian security telling protesters to “get back” while protesters and bystanders covered their faces to shield themselves from the pepper spray. At least one person was seen writhing on the ground in apparent agony.

The museum was closed at 3:00 p.m. and one woman was taken into custody by police.

I was expecting at least one incident today. There have been incidents the past two weekends, and Saturday is a better day because then it makes the Sunday morning news shows. I predict that OWS isn’t just going to engage in peaceful protests, they are going to keep trying to provoke confrontations.

After all, you can’t stay in the news if you’re not making news, right?

BTW – Once again we have videos showing the aftermath but none of them show what led up to it.

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46 Responses to That didn’t work out so well

  1. crawdad says:

    Once again we have videos showing the aftermath but none of them show what led up to it.

    Funny how that works.

  2. WMCB says:

    Instapundit’s comment of the day – a commenter from Althouse:


    The Obama administration has become a house of mirrors.

    Wall Street is the wicked enemy.

    Geithner is Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs is everywhere in the Obama admin.

    Rise up against the evil bankers!

    Pay off the evil bankers!

    The evil bankers must direct our economy policy or we are doomed!

    Like I said yesterday: If you’re not protesting against President Goldman Sachs, you’re not protesting against “Wall Street.” You’re just a hack. Sorry.

  3. crawdad says:

  4. The Penguin says:

    NBC is a progressive news network, right?

    I wouldn’t want to get my pure essence contaminated by wingnuts.

  5. DeniseVB says:

    a·gent pro·vo·ca·teur (-zhä prô-vôkä-tr)
    n. pl. a·gents pro·vo·ca·teurs (-zhä prô-vôkä-tr)
    A person employed to associate with suspected individuals or groups with the purpose of inciting them to commit acts that will make them liable to punishment.

  6. Rocky Hussein Squirrel says:

    • yttik says:

      Holy crap, that repeating back every sentence is disturbing.

      It’s actually hopeful that there was some resistance to having him speak. Maybe some of these people are aware of how they’re being co-opted.

      • WMCB says:

        In fairness, it is supposedly being done so those at the back can hear what the speaker is saying. But I have my doubts that’s the only reason. It’s a very effective psychological tool. Ask the cults. Ask some Gulag “psychologists” and “educators”. And many of the groups nationwide are following this precise same method, just, like, spontaneously and shit.

        Notice that they say that “no individual is more important than any other individual”. Okay, true. But isn’t the whole gist here that the speech of the individual in question, John Lewis, only has value if the collective decides it has value? They make a show of carefully honoring the “individuality” and “right to speak” of those who have assented to be part of the hive, but no such honor is bestowed on those outside the hive.

        Sorry, but this whole thing to me just smacks of a zombie collectivism dressed up in “individual rights” language. It creeps me the fuck out.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      The whole thing is pissing off David Atkins on twitter. His last was “Oh fuck off” to someone else’s tweet on the subject.

      On a separate but related topic: They are trying to coordinate a focus @ OWS on money in politics and they’re promoting some book by Lawrence Lessig called Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress–and a Plan to Stop It.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        Harvard connections: check
        Chicago connections: check
        Highly suspicious: check

        • Three Wickets says:

          Cult leaders and impressionable youth. a marriage made in heaven. They actively seek each other out.

      • WMCB says:

        This tinfoil hat-ish stuff is fun, Lola! Here ya go:

        In 2010, Lessig began to organize for a national constitutional convention.[10] He co-founded Fix Congress First! with Joe Trippi.[11]
        Lessig, along with Mark McKinnon[12]

        I think we all know who Trippi is. I personally think he was the one who
        kept Edwards in to knock out Hillary, and was the contact between Obama and the campaign.

        And McKinnon? McKinnon is a best best buddy of Bush, who worked on McCain’s campaign, left as soon as Obama was nominated, and refused to endorse McCain and said lovely lovely things about the soooo *swoon* “transformative” Obama.

        The little frat boy fuckers are up to their manipulative games again, IMO.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          I learned me lesson with Bush. You have to find out as much as you can what is on the map they won’t show you; with whom and how the connections are made, and to what duplicitous end.

  7. yttik says:

    It’s kind of interesting, one of the many problems with consensus is that it can cause groupthink. Collectivism will eventually break down individual will and people will stop truthfully communicating with each other. It’s like when you agree to go out to dinner with your spouse because you think that’s what he wants. He doesn’t want to go to dinner at all, he just thinks you do. Pretty soon you’re both out having dinner and neither one of you really wants to be there.

    Applied to these protesters, they could actually start astroturfing their own selves. Hopefully somebody will pass around a bong before it gets that bad, because I’ve seen experiments and it’s really creepy.

    There’s a reason we don’t use consensus much anymore, especially in large groups.

    • 1539days says:

      It’s kind of funny how the TP was criticized for being stuck in the 1800s with their view of the Founding Fathers. Loos at OWS, this collectivist consensus crap goes back to the freakin French Revolution. They had a ruling council who tried to make everyone else equal. Ironically, they became equal because most of the leaders of the Revolution were eventually executed by their own new government.

    • Three Wickets says:

      Somebody on my feed just put up a poster (found at TC) that says Fuck Off to MoveOn, signed the Occupation. Lol, very nice sentiment. Wonder if that includes telling Van Jones to Fuck Off. I’m not buying. Why would the Occupation (love that signature) feel compelled to tell MoveOn to Fuck Off in the first place. Given the Progger record of the past four years, the Occupation = MoveOn as far as I’m concerned. Will need to see more than a poster to convince me otherwise. The usual Progger suspects are behaving just like themselves during this Occupation (lol!) so far.

  8. The Penguin says:

    Marc Dion:

    You can’t just occupy America. You’ve got to sell even the dumbest, most slogan-happy, nearly illiterate American on the idea that you’re doing the right thing.

    So, the first thing you need to do is watch your wardrobe.

    People who go to left-wing demonstrations are prone to wearing T-shirts that say stuff like “Imagine World Peace.”


    When you plan your next occupation, check everybody’s T-shirts for slogans pertaining to peace, gayness or weird food ideas like an all-kale diet.

    Pass out the NASCAR shirts. Pass out the National Rifle Association T-shirts. Make sure somebody’s wearing an Ultimate Fighting T-shirt. Get a couple of Dallas Cowboys hats out there.

    You want to make sure your demonstrations don’t look like a pottery class at some snobbed-up East Coast university. Make sure they look like the Friday night crowd at a Walmart in Nebraska.

    What we’re looking for here is a way to connect ordinary Americans with the idea that guys in suits are raping them out of everything worth having.

    Look at the tea party. Very successful movement. The people who show up at their rallies don’t look like they bought their clothes at a campus shop that sells bongs and witty, ironic T-shirts. They look like they bought their clothes at Sears.

    Here are a few more tips.

    If you’re going to go up against rich people, you’re going to need a lot of patriotism.

    Talk about “the will of the Founders,” talk about “this great country,” talk about “self reliance.”

    Talk about “the Greatest Generation.”

    “Is this what the Greatest Generation fought for?” you can say.

    “Did those brave men who stormed Omaha Beach die for bond-traders and bankers who bribe Congress? That’s not what the Founders wanted. They wanted a free, strong America, not an America that is owned by the banks.”

    Sing. Sing “God Bless America.” Sing “America the Beautiful.” Don’t sing anything that doesn’t have the word “America” right up there in the title.

    If you get union members to march with you, make sure they’re NOT members of public-sector unions. No one gives a crap about unionized librarians in Delaware. Get some pipefitters out there. Get some longhaired, big-bellied, biker-looking ironworkers out there. Have ’em sing “God Bless America.”

    Simple words. Call bankers “thieves.” Never call them anything else. Repetition becomes truth.

    “These thieves are stealing America,” you should say. “They’re stealing people’s houses and pensions. They’re stealing America from our children.”

    “Heroes” — talk about “heroes.”

    “Our heroes in Iraq are going to come home to an America the Founders wouldn’t recognize,” you should say. “They’re coming home to an America where thieves who hate America steal people’s homes and pensions. They’re stealing America.”

    Heroes. Homes. America. Hit it hard.

    • WMCB says:

      So he’s basically saying LIE. Put on shirts that you would never ordinarily wear. Make yourselves look like something you aren’t. Reference NASCAR. *wink wink, nudge nudge*

      “Get your asses out there and DECEIVE the public, you morons! Geez, you think you are going to get anywhere by dressing like yourself and being honest about who you are? Stuff those public sector unions in a closet, dammit! You don’t want anyone to catch on that they are still there until it’s too late.

      You need to CON this country into doing what you want! It’s okay, really it is, because those illiterate rednecks don’t even know what’s best for them. Just make very sure you don’t tell them what it is until they’ve already agreed. It’s for their own good.”

      • The Penguin says:

        So he’s basically saying LIE. Put on shirts that you would never ordinarily wear. Make yourselves look like something you aren’t.

        Just like a first date.

        • crawdad says:

          I was gonna say “job interview” but it’s kinda the same thing.

        • WMCB says:

          Yeah, but he’s not just saying, “Hey, clean up and look not so scruffy, okay?” I could agree with that.

          He’s telling them to cynically ape an entire culture as a means of deliberate deception.

          You’ve got to sell even the dumbest, most slogan-happy, nearly illiterate American on the idea that you’re doing the right thing.

          That doesn’t say convince them you are doing the right thing. That doesn’t say engage with them, find common ground, win them over. It drips with scorn and condescension toward the look and language he is advising them to adopt. The stupid fly-overs won’t know any better.

        • yttik says:

          I think he’s telling them to follow Sarah Palin, LOL. She’s got nearly the same message they do, she just has actual solutions, too.

        • Three Wickets says:

          Think it makes big difference whether scorn or respect was intended. Fall River MA is what you might call serious New England blue collar, so I was giving writer benefit of the doubt with the piece. Hope I wasn’t wrong. You read enough bullshit snark from the Gawker world of proggers everyday, and trust is hard to come by when it relates to the concerns of ordinary Americans. Because proggers fundamentally don’t give a shit about ordinary Americans.

      • 1539days says:

        Remember the immigration reform debate about four years ago? There were a number of rallies by pro (illegal) immigration groups. People like Lou Dobbs talked about the number of Mexican flags, so organizers started telling people to carry American flags. Those flags, of course, were usually found strewn on the ground afterward like so much garbage.

    • 1539days says:

      This is the hallmark of OWS. Young or old, unemployed or employed, educated or not, there is one constant. Every one of them is so damn condescending. That’s what tends to make RD and her blog so polarizing. It’s not the politics, it’s the attitude.

      Again, that’s where the Tea Party is superior. They shook off the mockery and stuck with the ideas. They didn’t eschew political support, they just demanded it be sincere. They didn’t rule by consensus, they had a consensus because the people who joined believed what they did. They certainly didn’t think they were better than everyone else. And if they did, they sure as hell didn’t tell them constantly.

      • Mary says:

        Honkity honk honk honk!!

        She DRIPS with condescension and arrogance. “Just sit still, I—in all my wonderfulness—will tell you what to think.”

        And if ya don’t play along, she resorts to adolescent put-downs.


  9. r u reddy says:

    Well, when the kids discover that few-to-no-one has any sympathy for the protesters who got pepper sprayed for invading the Air and Space Museum, they will learn the difference between political target places and secular sacred spaces. Learning through living.

    Anyway, protest seems different from the ongoing assembly which
    the OWSers are holding in New York.

    • 1539days says:

      Occupations are stupid. It’s like the people who sit in trees to keep them from being cut down. The news cycle only cares about it for a day. People start to wonder why this occupier doesn’t have a job or school or any other obligation. That breeds contempt.

      Tea Party rallies last a few hours. They’re held in parks and open spaces. People don’t usually have to go around them to work. It’s a good news event. They people are legitimately working during he day and showing up for the rallies on weekends.

      I think it’s more about empathy than sympathy. A popular movement needs empathy.

  10. Three Wickets says:

    The number one thing New Yorkers think about, talk about, worry about is their apartment and where they live, their neighborhood brand. It is next to impossible to afford living in Manhattan these days south of 125th street unless you are earning at the 95th percentile or higher. This makes even downtown neighborhoods around Washington Sq and Tompkins Sq and Greenwich Village in general difficult to afford for young people who for generations have given life to these hoods. Unless your parents are paying your NYU Obot Training tuition. Anyway, I think one genuine aspect of OWS is Occupying Manhattan, because bankers and other assorted creative class professionals have taken the borough away from everyone else.

  11. HELENK says:

    I do not know too much about this “anonymous” group but this article scares me. Combining them with the occupy group could get violent

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