This is for Red Dragon

Yesterday I reported this:

NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly had some strong words for “Occupy Wall Street” protesters Thursday, blaming participants for starting skirmishes which led to more than 20 arrests on Wednesday.

“What they did is they counted. They actually had a countdown — 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 — they grouped together, they joined arms and they charged the police. They attacked the police. They wanted to get into Wall Street, they wanted to occupy Wall Street,” Kelly told reporters.

Red Dragon replied:

Can you show me one (video) where the protestors were counting down and the police didn’t charge into the crowd swinging their batons?

There you go, brother.

BTW – Why was the edited version (the first 20 seconds are missing) of the incident the only one originally released?

(via Jawa Report) (h/t Lurker)

Original edited footage:

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29 Responses to This is for Red Dragon

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Who’s bright idea was it to provoke the police? They’re lucky they weren’t gassed as they would be in another country.

    Bloomberg’s weighing in now ….

    I have to agree with him. 3 Weeks is long enough.

  2. yttik says:

    A few days ago there were several arrests in Seattle. The mayor, the cops, numerous people visited the protestors and explained that they couldn’t have tents set up and that other people had reserved the park for their protests and gotten permits, so they had to make room for others. They bent over backwards to accommodate the Occupy protesters, they said they were allowed to have one food tent and one first aid station and they gave them 24 hours to remove the other tents. When the cops did show up the next day to remove the tents, a handful of protesters locked arms and charged them and got arrested. I got dozens of emails and videos claiming police brutality. It was kind of ridiculous. No where in America are you allowed to charge towards cops with the intent of mowing them down. That’s not included in your free speech rights.

    • WMCB says:

      No where in America are you allowed to charge towards cops with the intent of mowing them down. That’s not included in your free speech rights.

      No where in America are you allowed to charge towards cops with the intent of mowing them down. That’s not included in your free speech rights.

  3. Mary says:

    Wow. They edited the damm tape to manipulate the public & the media.

    Thanks for finding this, myiq!

  4. Mary says:

    More info re the management company that runs Zucotti Park (found at Ace of Spades, on HotAir):

    “New Hampshire’s largest wind farm, the Granite Reliable Power project under costruction in Coos County, is jointly owned by BAIF Granite Holdings, LLC and Freshnet Wind Energy ,LLC. BAIF owns 75 percent of Granite Relible. BAIF Granite Holdings was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, which is a subsidiary of BROOKFIELD ASSET MANAGEMENT OF NEW YORK (manage the park).

    That company, which runs clean energy operations around the world (ie, it’s a huge international conglomerate) has deep pockets. It reported net income of $454 million in 2009 and $3.2 billion in 2010. Brookfield Renewable Power financed the creation of BAIF Granite Holdings from its Brookfield Americas Infrastructure fund, which was reported in February to have $2.7 billion in assets.

    With that kind of backing, it is curious that the US Dept of Energy announced it would guarantee up to 80% of a $168.9 million loan for the Granite Reliable wind farm project last week.

    Why would a company created by a $3.2 billion company and backed by a $2.7 billion private fund need federal loan guarantees?

    Granite Reliable’s wind farm is not proven, and Granite Reliable is a limited liability company, which provides broad investor protection if the company goes down.

    If the wind farm flops, and investors cut their losses, the taxpayers stand to lose $135 million.”

    There’s more:

    Brookfield Asset Management of NY opened Zucotti Park in mid September.
    They received the stimulus funds from the DOE Sept. 30.

    And guess who lobbied the DOE on their behalf? The lobbyist firm of Oldaker, Biden, and Belair, founded by Joe Biden’s son.

    Well well well.

  5. WMCB says:

    When you behave like an unruly, selfish mob devoid of any coherent message, do not get offended that the public begins to view you like an unruly, selfish mob devoid of any coherent message.

    My question again for those who object to batons and mace and barriers: What action is appropriate for the police to take when they need to lawfully prevent that mob from overrunning sidewalks and bridges and thoroughfares? What would you have them do?

    No one ever wants to answer that question.

    • The Penguin says:

      Then when they see a mob running wild they ask “Why don’t the police do something?”

  6. Red Dragon says:

    I hear the counting. I already acknowledged that I believe it was a bone head move on the part of “some” of the protestors to attempt to cross a barricade but my point has and will always be that the response was a tad heavy handed Myiq.

    so…touche brother Clown but I think this was something that was welcomed by the NYPD. Some in their ranks were salivating at the prospect of their little “Sticks” having a workout.

    I have been on the receiving end (I I was 24 )of a beating by 6 cops for asking why I was stopped and questioned. I supposed didn’t use my left turn signal. My wife and three children were witness to watching their father handcuffed and beaten simply for demanding to know why my car was being tossed, why my shirt was torn off my back and telling a cop he was out of line when he called my children…RED NIGGERS!!!!! All while I was handcuffed behind my back.

    I was let go with a ticket and 22 stitches and when I tried to file a complaint…was told…PROVE IT was the police that did it!

    So forgive me brother Clown if I am apt to mistrust a cop at his word!

    • Three Wickets says:

      The video doesn’t look like a spontaneous boneheaded move by some of the protestors. It looks planned to me, to provoke a reaction from the police, with camera phones standing by to capture the reaction (for later editing).

  7. tommetzger says:

    If you think you can change this system by non violent means your nuts. Gandhi did not change India because of his so called non violent activity. The Brits figured out ,why finance a standing army when all they had to do was put their boy in charge of the Indian treasury.

    MLK didn’t hurt the real elites. It was all a diversion to milk the white middle class and pay off a few black leaders. All the rest the Elites kept.
    Roosevelt’s new deal was a capitalist diversion to ward off the threat of a communist movement in the states.

    • WMCB says:

      Thank you for you clueless input. Now fuck off with your violence promoting revolutionary bullshit. Not gonna happen in the United States of America.

      Betcha those citizens opposed to your insane delusions have more guns in this country than you and your pissy little agitprop comrades do. Betcha. I have three.

    • Three Wickets says:

      So you’re saying communism is the answer. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people. Mao killed 40-50 million of his own people. Pol Pot killed 2-3 million Cambodians. The only remaining pure communist state in the world today is North Korea. That is your model. Idiot.

      • WMCB says:

        But it works so well on paper! (And in his imagination.) I can forgive people in the 20’s and 30’s for believing that communism might solve the world’s ills. After all, it had never been tried. Anyone thinking that now is just dumb.

        And no, don’t hand me that crap that communism has “never really been done right, either”. Baloney. It failed because it cannot ever be “done right”, because it assumes things about human nature that are simply not true, and therefore fails to predict the reactions of real human beings. . Reactions that are going to always prevent it from working. That’s the thing that frustrates marxists, and inevitably drives them to become more and more brutally authoritarian, in their efforts to stop those stupid human beings from fucking up our beautiful theory.

      • LiVo says:

        I don’t hear about anyone fighting their way into North Korea or risking their lives on a dinghy to Cuba, which is exactly what anyone who thinks communism is so wonderful should be doing. Nope, they want all the bells and whistles of the first world like ipads and 4G phones while sporting their Che t-shirts, etc.

  8. gxm17 says:

    I, for one, am glad people are getting angry. The anger and frustration are well founded. I didn’t object to the Tea Party protests, and I don’t object to the Occupy protests. The corruption of the political process by the Donkephant party and its owners is destroying our democracy. It’s understandable that people are lashing out.

    • dorkle says:

      I think it’s about time that people vented their frustration. It’s great.

      What I have a problem with is the hypocrisy.

      When the Tea Parties began, there was evidence that it was movement that was funded and pushed by Republican groups wishing to craft a power machine. Since then, the Tea Parties have broken free and become a monster all on its own, which is awesome. The initial reaction from most people was “Republicans, Bad!” and people still criticize it to this day. People still swagger around using the term “teabagger”.

      Now, we have OWS. It was supposedly dreamed up in the superfluous nebula, where it was discovered in an empty bottle on a beach, and now picked up by “regular” people hoping to change the world and give everyone a Coke. There has been evidence surfacing lately that it is a huge Democrat job, for whatever reason (soon to be revealed). They’re hiring players to attend the events, bringing in minorities to make them not look so white-bread, and money has been passed thru busy hands. What’s the reaction? Most people accepting it; not even questioning it. They ignore the evidence brought forth and defend it viscerally.

      I just think the dichotomy is stunning.

      • Three Wickets says:

        I hear different views on the Tea Party origins and development. Some say the movement was more grassroots in the beginning and then became appropriated by groups. Others say it began with the Koch Brothers and Dick Armey type groups and broke away as it became bigger.

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