Rising Cain candidacy flips old narratives on politics and race
Herman Cain doesn’t fit snugly into the usual narrative about race and American politics.
It is not merely that the African-American businessman is coming on so strongly in the battle for the Republican presidential nomination.
It is that the bedrock of Cain’s support comes from demographic and ideological groups that are sometimes accused — falsely, they would say — of harboring racist tendencies.
Polls in recent weeks have indicated that Cain has conspicuously strong backing among Republicans in the states of the old Confederacy. He has been a Tea Party darling virtually since the movement’s inception. And, as recently as Friday, he was cheered to the rafters by the deeply conservative, and almost uniformly white, attendees of the Values Voter Summit in Washington.
Has Cain achieved this measure of support by sidestepping issues of race? Hardly.
In his speech announcing his candidacy, back in May, he invoked Martin Luther King Jr. Were he to become president, he said, “we will finally be able to say, ‘Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, America is free at last.’”
The line deftly combined a nod to King’s legacy with the suggestion that true freedom for African-Americans would involve shaking off their resilient attachment to the Democratic Party.
Cain made that point more explicitly, and more controversially, when he told CNN late last month that black voters had “been brainwashed into…not even considering a conservative point of view.” A furor ensued.
At Friday’s Values Voter Summit, one of the lines in his speech that attracted wild applause came when he related how a reporter had asked him whether he was “angry” about America, given the historic injustices meted out to African-Americans.
“I said, ‘Sir, you don’t get it,’” Cain told the crowd. “‘I have achieved all of my American dreams and then some because of the greatest nation, the United States of America.’”
It is no surprise that Cain’s candidacy is seen in fundamentally different ways, even within the ranks of black political commentators.
According to radio host and Tea Party activist David Webb, Cain’s candidacy has already made it easier for African-Americans to see the appeal of conservative ideas. Webb asserted that people like Cain and himself “help open up the discussion and bring down the stereotype” of unstinting allegiance to the Dems.
Earl Ofari Hutchinson, the author of several books on the African-American experience, has a very different interpretation.
“The GOP has over a long period of time developed a very articulate handful of black conservatives – to, firstly, pound not just civil rights leaders but liberal Democrats generally; and, secondly, to create the illusion that there is a huge capacity among African-Americans to embrace the tenets of conservatism,” he said.
If Cain were to go on and win the GOP nomination this could be very interesting. Obama and the Democrats will have difficulty playing the race card (even though they’ll still try) and if Cain breaks the Democratic stranglehold on black voters then Donna Brazile’s dream of a new coalition will go up in smoke.
I’m not endorsing Herman Cain. He’s a conservative and I’m not. I don’t like any of the current candidates in either party. There are only two people I would actively support but neither of them is running.
So unless something changes one cf the current candidates is going to be POTUS for the next four year term. Since they are all far more conservative than me (including Obama) I am looking past their ideology and judging them on character and competence.
Based on what I have seen so far I think I could hold my nose and vote for Cain. And an Obama vs. Cain match-up will be far more entertaining than Obama vs. Romney.
this is off topic but should be seen and heard.
You asked about who started occupy wall st. Look who and what is teaching false flags
Hello move-on and George Soros
The other 49% didn’t want the first one.
a 2012 comeback for this song???????
“….to create the illusion that there is a huge capacity among African-Americans to embrace the tenets of conservatism,” he said
Actually, there already is a huge capacity among African Americans to embrace the tenets of conservatism. There are a lot of religious influences and not a lot of support for things like gay marriage. This idea that all black folks are liberals really is brainwashing. They may tend to be Democrats, but most aren’t from the liberal end of the party.
Yes, if it were just on social issues, no doubt the black community in large would be far more instep with conservative values. But Republicans don’t need black votes to win, so no reason to court them. And since the Dems are all but guaranteed to receive those votes, by just saying well “they” don’t want you, so where else you gonna go? No reason to actually earn those votes by delivering any real improvements, just keep saying the other side won’t even give you the meaningless promises at least we are.
NYTimes promoting a wikileaks type thing for OWS.
This CNN article reads like an Obama ad. How Obama’s data-crunching prowess may get him re-elected
I’ve been following several black republicans, libertarians, or conservatives on blogs and Twitter for some time now, and they are noting that they are seeing more and more black republicans “coming out”, as it were.
In the past few months, I’ve seen an increase on their Twitter feeds of other blacks arguing with them, but also conceding they have a point in some areas. I’m also seeing a certain boldness and outspokenness increasing in the R black community.
Here’s an example. I do not agree with all the guy in the video says, but it’s interesting to note the degree of pushback to lockstep black political opinion that is building out there:
I thought the democratic party had lost their minds in 2008 when they basically told anyone who was not for backtrack to get lost.
Now I know they have lost it. To come out in favor of these manufactured protests is just crazy.
They must think those computerized voting machines are going to work wonders for them
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-seek-occupy-wall-street-movement/story?id=14701337
They are trying to create an astroturf version of a Democratic Tea Party.
A lot of people who should know better are falling for it.
Who could have seen this coming.
Nancy, I hate to break it to you, but YOU are the establishment. From 2006 to 2010 YOU were 3rd in line to the presidency, YOU were in charge of the House, YOU had the power to push through any legislation you really wanted, and WHAT DID YOU DO?
People are angry AT YOU.
Surprise! Not. Occupy Seattle has just endorsed Obama’s Jobs bill:
Monday, October 10 at 5pm – Rally for Good Jobs Now
“President Obama has proposed creating jobs with $50 billion to repair our bridges, roads and transit systems. He’ll pay it for it with a tax on millionaires. But Congress keeps saying NO. Are you angry about the lack of good jobs in our communities? Then join us to stand up together. Let’s tell Congress to create jobs and rebuild the Middle Class”
Fools.
yep!!!!!!!!! 🙂
I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.
I saw this suggestion for a theme song for the occupy wall st bunch
where are we going I don’t know
Juan Williams on Cain:
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/06/cain-vs-obama-in-2012-its-not-just-fantasy/#ixzz1aOABfaPL
Myself, I believe that our country would be healthier politically if black Americans felt the same freedom to have the same wide range of political views that white Americans do, without being racially shamed and attacked on a racial basis.
One of the main reasons I will cheer on Herman Cain is not political/policy reasons, but to support him in his effort to say that black americans can be conservatives if they want to. Equality means freedom to be whatever you want, without race being held up as the reason you can’t. You can be what you want to be. Even a conservative, and even wrong.
Oops. The bit after the link is me, not Mr. Williams.
Fixed.
Cain edges out Obama in new nationwide poll. That’s pretty good, since Cain’s name-recognition among non-political-junkies is still lower than anyone in the field. Interesting internals:
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/279647/new-poll-puts-cain-ahead-obama
do you think someone should tell the occupy wall st bunch that backtrack has taken more money from wall st then any politician is the last 20 years?
http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/obama-attacks-banks-while-raking-in-wall-street-dough/?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=TheDC+Morning&utm_campaign=The+DC+Morning+&utm_term=1__29+Obama+bites+the+banks+that+
OT LOL
What I like about Cain is, unlike Obama, Romney, and Perry, he’s not from the Political Class. That alone is worth attention.
DL Hughly on Herman Cain.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/30/wheres-the-outrage-over-d-l-hughleys-racist-attack-on-herman-cain/
Class all the way.
You know I did catch Cain in passing on some news show last week and made the comment to my Mom that he sounded like a preacher. She agreed, and then I said, well at least when he does it, it sounds authentic unlike when The One gets up there.
I’m not a church goer myself, and am not so interested in how he says something but what he’s saying, however, I can see how his style might resonate with a lot of people. Though I think he’d have to be careful about going overboard with it.
He probably sounds like a preacher, because he is one 😀 I think part time though, the same church he’s attended since childhood.
His politics is not my cup of tea. But then neither is that of the One. They’re both conservative, I’m not. Either way we lose IMO. But I’d like Obama to lose just because of the anti-democracy crap in the last primaries. And well, because he’s an ass. 🙂 Also I want a teachable popcorn moment. 🙂
all this about Herman Cain not having political experience is just so much bull.
When I was training people on a job, I told them that everybody,even the general manager started out new.
With his experience in running companies, he had to have some political know how. Politics is getting people to do what you want.
He had to have the ability to understand and fix problems or he would be broke.
just my opinion
Cain also worked every position in those companies he was involved with….janitorial, flipping burgers, taking orders. Sounds like what a good CEO should be doing. He was a jobs creator too and who better to understand how that works in the private jobs market.
would you work for goldman sachs if they paid you in weed?
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I’d need to do some research on their product first.
😀
QAQC
@rortybomb: My friend Andrew Bossie is doing an intro lecture on banking/money/Fed at @OccupyWallStNYC at 3 pm today; I’ll be joining him. Stop by!
Lol, well good for him I guess. Rortybomb’s put together some interesting OWS data.
Still have to finish the whole thing, so I’m probably going to chomp on my foot somehow. But doesn’t it seem like the ages most represented are those who’ve just finished their degree/masters?
Which makes this quote interesting. They wanted the big bucks – so they took on the big debt. Now they don’t like the contract they signed on their future.
Sarah Palin said she is one of Cain’s biggest fans. It could get interesting for the political establishment if she endorsed him. He’s already picking up steam, I imagine that coveted Palin endorsement just might send him so far beyond Romney, he could become the candidate.
That would certainly be called flippin the script on the political establishment.
Of course the usual political class idiot pundits would claim they love it. But they’d be sweating bullets while they said it.
Think Perry must be using Pawlenty’s ad people.
He is. He got TPaw’s ad guys. I don’t like Perry, but that’s a very effective ad.
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Owie!
Btw, this is the biggest criticism I have heard about Cain so far — that he hasn’t attacked Romney.
This is making some of the voters think he is running for Mitt’s VP.
Cain is in it to win it.
I’ve heard him attack Romney. But Cain knows that the votes he needs are the ones Perry has. Right now Perry and Cain are splitting the grassroots base vote. Cain has to take Perry out to have a shot at Romney.
Check this out:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279612/romney-and-cain-its-complicated-katrina-trinko
occupy wall st vs teaparty
http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/occupy-d-c-protesters-speak-out-clash-with-tea-party-video/
http://yfrog.com/kkd4yofj
This weekend I donated to Herman Cain. The only candidate I’ve donated to since Hillary.
Here’s my reasoning:
He’s the only candidate that strikes me as ‘human’ (somewhat like what WMCB said).
The color of his skin seems completely unimportant to him or his policies.
While I disagree with his politics, I will not support a Dem Presidential Candidate until Pelosi/Reid/Schumer/Brazille et al are punished (Dean has already been punished somewhat – but I’m still waiting for the apology). NOT ONLY will I not support a Dem Pres Candidate, I have also made the added choice (ymmv) that I will vote for the Republican Candidate as my personal protest so the Dems have to make up two votes for the one I cast for the opposing party. I believe voting third party does not cut it – as those candidates have little chance to win, only the Repub candidate will be a threat – so to make them have to find two votes, I must vote for the Republican. THIS IS A PROTEST VOTE, I do not support the Republicans, but I don’t see everyone through the prism of my tribal sunglasses anymore…. and I don’t begrudge anyone else who wants to vote Dem or third party – it’s your vote, and I respect what you decide.
Cain’s Campaign is going to need money. He is now the strongest candidate after Romney. If the ‘Brainwashing’ statement didn’t derail him (or the slight misstatements about foreign policy) then he will get stronger and stronger with each misstep – this could make him teflon before too long… but he doesn’t have Mitt’s 5 years of planning and infrastructure in place – HIS CAMPAIGN WILL NEED MONEY to compete with that machine.
Cain as the nominee is the most effective and sure way of purging the Dem Party of the people who ruined it. If he takes even 20% of the African American Vote away – there is no chance in hell Obama can win, and it has the possibility of changing the Dem political landscape for generations – there will be hell to pay for those who stuck us with a loser.
I am all aboard the Cain Train – until or unless it derails – then I’ll hold my nose and still vote against Obama as a protest – they will never get me back until they admit what they’ve done or suffer some consequences.
Cain’s my choice too because this time I’d rather have an experienced “blank slate” than 4 more years of “it’s my way or the highway” rule of the Boy King and his loyal subjects.
I’m not quite ready to get my heart broken again, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed for Cain.
Be careful of jumping on the “Herman Cain is only a successful businessman” train.
Cain was on the Board of Directors of the Kansas City Federal Reserve for 4 years and played a large role in defeating the Clinton health care initiative in the early 90s.
He’s an insider, just like Obama was/is an insider.
I’m on the ‘how-do-I-get-my-party-back-and-punish-those-who-stole-it’ train.
… I don’t agree with Cain or have any other adoration for him – I do he think he seems ‘most human’, but I trust no one in politics…. but I do think he’ll cause the most damage to the current Dem leadership – and to me, that is what is needed.
HONK
Unless there’s an economic miracle, it’s going to be an anyone-but-Obama election. Good grief but Obama has been even more of a disaster than I could have ever imagined. And I knew he was gonna suck.
Right now, Cain is the only Republican contender I can stomach so I am thrilled that he is gaining momentum.
Now if we can just have a liberal miracle come along and give me someone to vote for, and feel good about my vote. Ahhh, if wishes were bankers…