OWS responds – It’s on like Donkey Kong!

OccupyWallStreet

EMERGENCY CALL TO ACTION: Prevent the forcible closure of Occupy Wall Street!

Tell Bloomberg: Don’t Foreclose the Occupation.
Join us at 6AM FRIDAY for non-violent eviction defense.

Please take a minute to read this, and please take action and spread the word far and wide.

Occupy Wall Street is gaining momentum, with occupation actions now happening in cities across the world.

But last night Mayor Bloomberg and the NYPD notified Occupy Wall Street participants about plans to “clean the park”—the site of the Wall Street protests—tomorrow starting at 7am. “Cleaning” was used as a pretext to shut down “Bloombergville” a few months back, and to shut down peaceful occupations elsewhere.

Bloomberg says that the park will be open for public usage following the cleaning, but with a notable caveat: Occupy Wall Street participants must follow the “rules”. These rules include, “no tarps or sleeping bags” and “no lying down.”

So, seems likely that this is their attempt to shut down #OWS for good.

PLEASE TAKE ACTION:

1) Call 311 and tell Bloomberg to support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS. If you are calling from outside NY use this number 212-NEW-YORK.

2) Come to #OWS on FRIDAY AT 6AM to defend the occupation from eviction.

Occupy Wall Street is committed to keeping the park clean and safe — we even have a Sanitation Working Group whose purpose this is. We are organizing major cleaning operations today and will do so regularly.

If Bloomberg truly cares about sanitation here he should support the installation of portopans and dumpsters. #OWS allies have been working to secure these things to support our efforts.

We know where the real dirt is: on Wall Street. Billionaire Bloomberg is beholden to bankers.

We won’t allow Bloomberg and the NYPD to foreclose our occupation. This is an occupation, not a permitted picnic.


I wish I could sell tickets.

BTW – This:

This is an occupation, not a permitted picnic.

Demonstrates the intent to wrongfully interfere with the right of ownership and possession. That’s called “trespassing.”


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157 Responses to OWS responds – It’s on like Donkey Kong!

  1. yttik says:

    Well so much for consensus! Last night the Seattle Occupy people voted overwhelmingly, 83%, to move to city hall plaza where the mayor has invited them to camp and protest.

    They’ve also marched over to the Grand Hyatt to protest Mitt Romney who is having a fundraiser there.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      That just shows how much you know, yttik. Ten percent opposition is all it takes to kill a motion. That’s the definition of consensus at OWS. More fuzzy math.

    • yttik says:

      Uh oh, somebody has just asked (regarding the Mitt Romney protest) why didn’t we protest President Obama when he was here? What do you think he was doing here? Having dinner with the poverty stricken 15% of america?? No, having a campaign fundraiser just like Mitt.

      That smart assed occupier is going to be consensually assigned to permanent bathroom cleaning duty.

    • sandress says:

      Meh. This is Seattle. If the new guy thought he could get away with it, he’d join the protesters outside with his REI camping equipment. He’d win more votes that way. This city is fucked up with double-think.

  2. Rocky Hussein Squirrel says:

    Bloomberg says that the park will be open for public usage following the cleaning, but with a notable caveat: Occupy Wall Street participants must follow the “rules”. These rules include, “no tarps or sleeping bags” and “no lying down.”

    Oh, the humanity!

  3. WMCB says:

    support our right to assemble

    No one is blocking your right to assemble. A property owner is asking you to leave his property.

    Ya know, I’d really love to have the home address of some of these folks, so I could show up and plop my ass down on their couch and start having pizza delivered and trashing their bathroom and playing drums at 3am..

    And boy, the stink I’d make about how they were OPPRESSSSSIIIINNNGGGMEEEEEE!!!!!!! when they called the cops to haul me off.

    • myiq2xu says:

      You mean when their parents called.

      • WMCB says:

        Betcha those union leaders passing out signs have a house. With a lawn. Maybe I’ll pitch a tent on it.

    • HELENK says:

      they live with mommie and daddy. The parents are most likely glad to have them out of the house.

      • yttik says:

        That’s a really good point, Helenk, LOL! We should probably stand in solidarity with other parents and support this group’s right to keep sleeping in the park.

        I hadn’t thought about all those parents who are probably really enjoying their holiday right now : )

  4. myiq2xu says:

    How precious:

    “There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

    “This is a protest; it’s not a camping area. People aren’t camping here, they’re protesting and we have the right to have sleeping bags. Where are they gonna sleep? How are they gonna protest? Without sleeping bags, they can’t protest,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks

    • angienc says:

      Jesus fucking Christ — having a Port-A-Potty is now a “basic human right?”

      This is what happens when you send your kids to schools that don’t give actual grades.

      Somehow, though, I don’t think these “Twinkles up; Twinkles down” asshats are going to be a match for the NYPD.

      • crawdad says:

        On the bright side, the cops can beat them on the head and not have to worry about causing brain damage.

      • timothy2010 says:

        So are cell phones,. In PA individuals on public assistance can get free phones with 250 minutes per month. Guess I can see the rationale, as its pretty hard to find a job without a phone but from the article I read the cost is actually not to the state but to the carriers who then pass it on to the paying customers. Doesn’t really bother me but I did hear a woman griping loudly on hers at the bus stop that it was UNFAIR that she didn’t get free nights and weekends.

      • Erica says:

        And a sleeping bag, angie, don’t forget their sleeping bags!

    • yttik says:

      I guess Seattle is more liberal then NY City, but speaking of “precious,” the mayor has provided permits, sanicans, free coffee, and unlimited use of city hall plaza and these morons won’t take him up on the offer! They want to stay in the park with no permits, no bathrooms, and no hot coffee.

      I’m not terribly fond of the mayor, but he’s a liberal dream come true and these protesters are really taking a dump on him. To thank him for his offer, they simply sent him an additional list of demands, including free tents and sleeping bags.

      • Three Wickets says:

        Wonder if the Starbuck’s CEO will provide the free coffee.

        He then officially launched his campaign in August with full-page ads and his website, Upwardspiral2011.org, calling upon people to boycott any further political contributions until the national deficit is reduced, as first reported by the New York Times. Schultz held a teleconference Tuesday night, where he said 130,000 people participated in a discussion about issues with the economy.

      • sandress says:

        I dig the new guy. Seattleites on the other hand, continue to drive me fucking bonkers with their sanctimonious bullshit.

      • WMCB says:

        To thank him for his offer, they simply sent him an additional list of demands, including free tents and sleeping bags.

        Classy, ain’t they?

    • WMCB says:

      So that’s how it works, now? Anything you decide you want is a basic human right just because you say so? Porta potties are a right. Sleeping on someone’s property is a right. Sleeping bags are a right.

      Good Lord. You have it. I want/need it. Therefore I have a right to it.

      Fuck you.

      • angienc says:

        Don’t forget — pay for my school loans!

        Yep, that’s not greedy at all, like those greedy corporations.

        I often dream I had been born an heiress & didn’t have to work to pay my bills, but then I wake up (about 6:30 a.m. when my alarm clock goes off so I can get up & go the fuck to work).

        Someone needs to wake these kids the fuck up. Like yesterday.

  5. angienc says:

    The fact is, Bloomberg is doing them a favor (although like those kids in Seattle who are turning down a great offer from their Mayor, are too stupid to see it — demanding free — ie, paid for by the city — tents & sleeping bags is not a way to win over the rest of the 99%, just saying).

    Bloomberg should let them stay there, stinking up the park & causing problems until the WORKING people who actually PAY TAXES in the neighborhood storm the place. Trust me, the rest of us in the 99% are going to be way, way more sympathetic to them than to the “occupiers.”

    Ending it before that happens helps the occupiers retain whatever sympathy from the rest of the 99% they have at this moment, which will disappear with more demands like “the basic human right of Port-A-Pottys.”

    • Mary says:

      Why aren’t these ding-a-lings demanding that the “organizers, ” with all the $$$ donations they claim they’re getting, provide the Port-A-Pottys??

      Why should tax payers pick up that cost?

      • angienc says:

        Because they WANT IT AND THE WANT IT NOW!!

        A generation of Veruca Salts. Thanks you asshat helicopter parents.

  6. HELENK says:

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/weird/Greens-Want-Port-a-Potties-on-Top-of-Mount-Everest-131803278.html

    if we put port-a-potties at the top of Mount Everest, will the ows bunch go there?

  7. HELENK says:

    since the ows crowd thinks everyone should get what they want, when they want it,
    I want this and it is up to the rest of the world to pay for it for me

  8. If it’s an occupation why are they surprised at a counter-attack?

  9. Lola-at-Large says:

    I shared the 99% tumblr link yesterday. Today it’s the 53% tumblr. Good stuff at both. http://the53.tumblr.com/

    • Mary says:

      “….there will be a move to repress us….”

      Good Lord. She’s completely lost it.

      • WMCB says:

        Not that she’s actually going down there herself or anything. I did notice that.

        • angienc says:

          She has a 15 year old to take care of, duh!

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          Well, let’s not pick on her smart parental decisions. There’s so much real stuff to pick on with that one.

        • angienc says:

          Lola — I’m not picking on her parental decisions — that is the verbatim reason she’s giving for NOT actually being there (like, she would if she could).

    • Oh jeebus.

      OK, I’ll bite, repress what? What are the goals? What are the policy issues the group wants to push? What’s actually being protested? What’s the point?

    • gumsnapper says:

      Hasn’t her website experience a number of waves of defections since its start-up? I can’t make heads or tails out of her contradictory stances. And there’s a lot of hypocrisy going on there as well. She accuses others of violent incitement and imagery but she has no problem name-calling and applauding violent imagery herself. (Beck’s head on a pike.)

      Anyone who disagrees with her is a “rightwinger” or a Beck devotee. Next she’ll be calling people racist. Wouldn’t surprise me.

      I’ve stopped commenting there because it’s like walking on eggshells. Her authoritarianism is a turn-off.

      (I’m not known ’round these pro-Hillary sites because I’m usually a lurker and only a very infrequent commenter.) In any case, I’m not posting any more comments at TC. I think she really has gone off the deep end.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Things have changed over there.

        For the first time ever my comments are now moderated at TC

        • angienc says:

          I always felt her rage against the Obots was that she wasn’t included in the inner circle. If she’d been offered spa treatments with Arrianna in Denver she’d have gone the way of Jeralyn.

        • Perhaps this is her chance since she’s in at “the ground floor” with this OFA wave.

        • Mary says:

          That’s astounding. Really.

          It’s because feels threatened by you—which is delusional, of course—but she felt same about me. It started with “moderation,” and went from there. I chose to leave.

          Srsly, she has issues. I keep wondering if she treated her co-workers the same way. Splains a lot, if so.

        • WMCB says:

          RD kinda liked being a mavericky dissenting voice on the edges of the tribe. But I think she’s flat out terrified to be excluded from the tribe altogether.

          Since no one saw the light and came crawling back to her to admit they were wrong, and fete her for her prescient brilliance like she thought and hoped they eventually would (and really, a lot of posts were chock full of longing expectation that they do just that), seems she’s gotta change course here. The banishment never bothered me in the slightest, but I could tell that it wore on her.

          That’s my take, anyway. I could be wrong. I readily admit that. YMMV.

      • Next she’ll be calling people racist. Wouldn’t surprise me.

        Everyone from the South is a “Confederate” according to her.

      • votermom says:

        it’s like walking on eggshells

        Yes, it does remind me of that. Not worth it.

    • angienc says:

      I’m not the least bit surprised.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Why do they care about not being able to sleep there, etc? Why can’t they protest every day, without sleeping on private property? Why can’t they have marches every day, sit downs every day, etc? Just wondering.

    • 1539days says:

      I don’t know. I found the shilling for donations for lambert kind of sharky.

  10. soupcity says:

    It’s kinda sad, actually, the refuge TC was is dead. This OWS thing is beyond her somehow, not one of her posts on this “movement” has made any sense. Like a dog with a bone at this point. I can’t believe she’s moderating you myiq2xu. So glad crawdad is here. Thanks, all!

  11. HELENK says:

    I felt very unwelcome at TC. I try look at things as an American citizen first and then for a long time as a democrat, since 2008 as an independent.
    But always as an American citizen first and I was accused of being a republican when I did not go along with everything that was written.

  12. votermom says:

    OT. I guess Rubio may not be as Tea Party as he seems
    http://theothermccain.com/2011/10/13/top-rubio-staffer-reportedly-pushed-for-early-florida-primary-to-help-romney/

    GOP sources in Washington and Florida say that Rubio’s senatorial chief of staff, Cesar Conda, has been a major force in persuading Florida Republicans to move their primary to January.
    “Cesar used to be with Romney’s campaign,” one informed source explained to me in an interview today, adding: “Conda used his contacts to push the primary to the 31st because they want Romney in.”

    • DandyTiger says:

      He’s a party machine man all the way. Surprise, surprise. He and Romney can get into office and do the same as Bush III now and Bush II before him. More of the same.

      Good thing progressives are working really hard and channeling all their energies with protest to make sure Obama is primaried. Wait, oh, that’s right, they’re busy doing something else. How amazingly convent for the Obama/Romney Party machines.

    • WMCB says:

      They’ve been planning a Rubio VP slot for ages. Both Perry and Romney have courted him, but a lot of his staff are old Romney people.

  13. yttik says:

    I’m really liking this Occupy Your Brain site.

    http://www.occupyyourbrain.com/

    One suggestion on the site:

    “5. Start a business. Yes, I said it. Become a part of the greatly demonized corporate machine. Offer a new product or service of higher quality or lower cost than what currently exists on the available market. Engage in fair marketplace competition by not accepting collective handouts from coercive wealth redistributors. Give consumers a voluntary choice to select your business over others at their own individual discretion. Create jobs for skilled and ethical workers by increasing production in the economy. Everyone wins in an ethical business: employers, employees, sellers, buyers, and everything in between.”

  14. timothy2010 says:

    Spent a couple of minutes watching the live feed from the protesters outside of Ciprianni’s attempting/expecting to give Bloomberg their petition. Going on and on about how they have kept up their end of the bargain(cleaned up their room) and now Bloomie needs to keep his part and let them stay in THEIR park. Don’t think most who commented to the camera man grasped the fact that it is private property.

    • angienc says:

      It is their park because they *want* it. That’s how this generation thinks life works.

      I want to be a 5’10 Supermodel. Maybe I should join them.

  15. Three Wickets says:

    The rumor that won’t die. Hillary Clinton will not replace Joe Biden as VP. Don’t know why Joan’s even making this an issue. Hillary’s said publicly at least twice this week that she’s returning to private life after this term.

  16. Never watched live blogging of total stupidity before. This is fun. Where’s my popcorn. I poked into those live streams occasionally, but the stupidity is very painful. Anyone else care to give a listen.

  17. Lola-at-Large says:

    Centralized feeds now: http://www.occupyfeeds.com/

  18. LOL, elliesmom tried to say something to RD just now. Cracks me up. Hey, how come you’re not moderated? Lucky I guess.

    • angienc says:

      Bwahahahaha! RD just gave, as justification for drinking the OWS kool aid, that “it’s spreading like wildfire.” Oh, OK, if EVERYBODY is doing it, then of course, it’s good. {rolls eyes}

    • elliesmom says:

      It’s my “teacher voice”, I guess.

      • LOL. I liked the part where she says “a new polls says that 54% of Americans agree with the occupation’s sentiments. And another 23% aren’t quite sure.” Um, what sentiments? How can you poll the opinions of a group when they have no agreed upon opinions?

        • elliesmom says:

          I don’t know how old Riverdaughter is, but I suspect she missed out on Chicago ’68 and Woodstock by a few years, but that she’s old enough to have romanticized them. I “kept clean for Gene” in 1968, and while I was too busy working in the summer of ’69 to go to Woodstock, I had friends who went. While many people “sympathized” with our ant-war protests, the end result was two terms for Richard Nixon, one of them a landslide. Not sure that was better than giving LBJ another term. I’m also not sure that we really ended the war any sooner. I know that most people sided with the National Guard at Kent State. “Sympathy” doesn’t necessarily turn into votes, and even if it does this time, where do those voters go? This is not a movement that is working toward a new party. Or toward primarying Obama. What does RD think she’s rooting for?

        • soupcity says:

          Romanticized is exactly right, elliesmom. I don’t think RD has any clue what she’s rooting for. At least the Tea Partiers made their protests translate into votes, candidates (good or bad) and something that affected change and policy. Sadly, I don’t think OWS has that power and it seems sometimes they don’t even want it. What’s the freaking point?

  19. gxm17 says:

    Well, I suppose, one person’s trespassing is another person’s civil disobedience. But you know that.

    • DandyTiger says:

      You can protest and do civil disobedience in public parks and lands and streets, then you’re not punishing someone who has nothing to do with what you’re protesting.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      I did think it was highly ironic that the mayor of Boston of all places was quoted saying the city “would not stand for civil disobedience.” Boston? Really? I’m pretty skeptical of these protests, but that just basically said it all as to why so many people think it’s necessary. This country was BUILT on civil disobedience, for cryin’ out loud, and Boston is where is started!

      • elliesmom says:

        But a lot of the “civil disobedience” in Boston’s history is over-hyped. The tide was out when the patriots threw the tea overboard, and the crates of tea landed in the mud. Thoreau’s relatives paid his taxes for him because they were embarrassed by his being in jail. Walden was not out in the wilderness. It was and remains a pleasant walk from downtown Concord, where his mother did his laundry.

      • angienc says:

        No, this country was built by bloody combat. That’s different from civil disobedience.

    • timothy2010 says:

      Shouldn’t they then be exercising their civil disobedience in one of the public parks?

    • angienc says:

      Yeah, and you can get arrested for both. That’s the chance you take. But you know that.

      Whining about sleeping bags isn’t helping your cause. I understand the OWS thinks Ghandi is a cancer, but I don’t think those Indians who lined up to get beaten by the British were whining about not getting to have sleeping bags.

    • yttik says:

      Civil disobedience is about protesting unfair laws. It’s kind of hard to call “no camping in a public park” an unfair law, especially when you are offered other places to camp.

      • Estoy Occupado says:

        It’s horribly unfair that we can only protest from 6am to midnight!!

      • gxm17 says:

        Civil disobedience is breaking the law, not merely protesting it. And trespassing is a common form of civil disobedience. It is probably a safe bet that if the OWSers could move from the park to Wall Street, they’d do so.

        I’m really not understanding the need to denigrate the OWSers. It’s reminiscent of the need, expressed elsewhere, to denigrate the TPers. Sorry, I just don’t get it. I love seeing people shake off their complacency; it makes me think our country may still have a pulse.

        • myiq2xu says:

          What should happen when you break the law?

        • angienc says:

          Yes, as I said, civil disobedience is breaking the law. I don’t agree with those saying it has to be done in public areas (the Woolworth’s counters in the 60s wasn’t public property), but guess what? Part of civil disobedience is BEING ARRESTED. These people want to have their cake & eat it too — practice “civil disobedience” WITHOUT being arrested. And that is EXACTLY why they should be derided. They claim to be practicing civil disobedience & complain & whine when they are arrested showing me that they don’t even understand how the fuck civil disobedience works.

          TWINKLES DOWN!

        • gxm17 says:

          Anyone who engages in civil disobedience should know they can be arrested. However, there is a distinction between trespassing for criminal purposes and trespassing to engage in civil disobedience. And the OWSers, whether you agree with them or not, are trespassing for the purpose of civil disobedience.

        • myiq2xu says:

          The law makes no such distinction.

          If it did it wouldn’t be “viewpoint neutral” and that would make it unconstitutional.

          Would you feel the same way if these were a bunch of neo-Nazi skinheads?

        • WMCB says:

          They are? What is their purpose? Civil disobedience needs a goal. What is it?

        • gxm17 says:

          angienc, I agree with most of your point. I think it’s a shame that OWS doesn’t (seem to) have someone who actually knows the civil disobedience ropes or, if they do, they haven’t been able to properly inform, or train, the protesters. I’m not on the ground so I can’t make any assessment on the group dynamics but I do find that baffling. However, I do think that protestation about being arrested is a huge part of civil disobedience. IMO, it kinda goes hand in hand. That’s the point, getting arrested and then shouting “look! they’re arresting me!”

        • gxm17 says:

          myiq, the only folks I don’t defend, and actively criticize, are The Westboro Baptist Church because I believe their protests cross the line to hate speech. But SCOTUS disagrees with me so that’s that.

          When the KKK marched in DC, many years back now, I defended their right to do so and told anyone who disagreed “just let the dozen or so guys walk down the street in peace.” They were so vastly outnumbered by hecklers one almost felt bad for them. Almost.

        • myiq2xu says:

          But what if the KKK was occupying a privately owned park and refused to leave?

          What would you think should be done?

        • angienc says:

          The KKK had a permit.

          These asshats do not. So it can’t be “freedom of association/assembly/speech” they’re protesting. It must be the law forbidding camping in public parks OR a citizens God-given right to Port-A-Potty access.

        • catarina says:

          Shake off their complacency?

          Their failure to address the root of the problem proves their complacency!

          Just as soon as OWS denounces Obama I’ll stop denigrating them and jump right in.

          I’ll chant, make twinkles, block bridges, yell at the cops, sleep on the ground, play human microphone games-whatever I have to do.

          But it’s not going to happen.

          This movement will morph into Obama ’12.

        • gxm17 says:

          myiq, if the KKK had that large of a gathering then it would be worrisome to say the least. They are known for violence and murder, not sit-ins or camping out to make their presence known.

          angienc, yes, they had a permit. My point was that I was the only one defending them, in my circle at least, and telling everyone else to chill out at the time.

          catarina, I included the Tea Party in the paragraph. If OWS morphs into OFA I’ll be completely disgusted. That’s why I have yet to jump on the bandwagon, I’m skeptical by nature and not a joiner, but will defend them as I defended the Tea Party. I see clearly that the Dems are trying to glom onto OWS. I can’t see how they’ll succeed as they’re all bought and paid for but it’s still a worry. When I got that email with the Dems trying to sell me a phone to tweet the revolution it certainly gave me pause.

    • WMCB says:

      But they are not approaching it as civil disobedience. I.e. I am going to deliberately break the law knowing full well that I’m breaking it, and to what end..

      All the quotes and announcements I’ve seen are spouting crap like Portapotties (that someone else pays for) are a basic human right, as are sleeping bags, and being run off private property is a violation of freedom of assembly. Which is bullshit.

      The biggest “point” and “cause” to all this at the moment seems to be a contest to see who can be the biggest victim of The Man. If they ever get a point and get a plan, I might support them. But I’m seeing everything from Down With the Dirty Jooos, to Eat the Rich, to Pay My Loans, to Destroy Capitalism, to Close All Nuclear Plants, to Confiscate It All And Who Gives a Fuck What Happens After That, to Dude! Free Pizza! One lone sane person talking reasonably about restoring Glass Steagall as a start is utterly lost in the bongos and the madness and the cacophony.

      Which is EXACTLY what many of us predicted 3 weeks ago would happen if someone with a brain and some organization didn’t narrow down what the protest actually wanted in a concrete way, and stick to it. And we were told that we were too fuddy duddy and hierarchal to see the beauty of the new way, the organic consensus method of doing things, where no one really knowing what the fuck is going on is a good thing, and will result in……..goodness!

      No, I don’t think the lunatics and stoned hipsters and Joo-haters and anarchists and selfish brats are the whole movement. But I do think that the rest of them are to blame for putting touchy feely “inclusiveness” over having a goddamned brain, plan, or coherent message.

      If you have adamantly refused the use of a rudder, then don’t complain when you start breaking up on the damn rocks.

      • Three Wickets says:

        Letting an openly anti-semitic group Adbusters and Anonymous for that matter drive these protests from the onset was a non-starter for me and a mistake by the bigger organizers behind the scenes. As for the banks and Wall Street, two big things happened this week. Raj Rajaratnam was sentenced to 11 years no parole in maximum security today. And the SEC and Fed introduced the final Volcker Rule which the banks have been pushing back on hard. The biggest banks are threatening to dissolve their holding company status in order to avoid the rule. That would be like going back to a partial Glass-Steagall which may or may not make sense. Not sure the OWS organizers are even aware. They aren’t focused on specific goals where they could make a difference. Blowing off steam is fine, the cities will probably accommodate that to a degree. But if that’s all they do, they will have accomplished less than they could have. If for example they said to Bloomberg, we will not move from this spot unless government commits to deliberate on these specific demands as they relate to banks or even to general economic policy, they might be taken more seriously.

      • gxm17 says:

        WMCB, yes, I’m wondering if their is a method to their madness, or a madness to their method. I’d like to see some good come out of the OWS protests and I’m hoping that movement gains momentum as well as direction. I’d love to see a third party emerge but as I’ve said before: if wishes were bankers…

        • WMCB says:

          I’ve been looking at all the data points from the beginning, gxm, and they have not been adding up to anything good. I speak of the movement as a whole, not every individual.

          If a group on the left who wants to get serious about cronyism and lawbreaking etc were to coalesce out of this mess, and start a real protest with actual goals that threaten the Dem establishment like the teapartiers threaten the GOP establishment, then no one will be happier than I. But so far, this ain’t it.

  20. myiq2xu says:

    Since she won’t publish it, here is my moderated comment at TC:

    myiq2xu, on October 13, 2011 at 6:58 pm said: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    You do realize that Zuccotti Park is private property, don’t you?

    Don’t you think the owners have rights too?
    Reply

  21. bandit says:

    the mayor of Boston of all places was quoted saying the city “would not stand for civil disobedience.” Boston? Really?

    Really. The thing is the city let them go in without pulling a permit. I have to pull a permit for f’ng soccer practice. Then they blocked rush hour traffic one day and then moved to a different area of the Greenway because the part by Summer Street was trashed. Today was a downpour and I guess they let them go to a hospital cafeteria. Menino wants them to go back to Cambridge.

    • elliesmom says:

      It’s a short subway ride. No reason not to go home at night and come back in the morning. Rain again tomorrow, sunny weekend, and then more rain next week.

      • angienc says:

        The fact is, the authorities are bending over backwards to accommodate these people (not requiring permits, allowing them to break laws like no camping in public parks without consequence, etc.) and yet it isn’t good enough for these brats, because like the sociopathic takers they were raised to be, they will ALWAYS demand more, more, more.

  22. myiq2xu says:

    RD, on October 13, 2011 at 7:31 pm said:

    cops are filming the action. The occupier with the camera says that ususally means the police are up to no good.
    Reply

    Yes, the cops always want a recording of when they are up to no good.

  23. stan chaz says:

    While our .00001 percenter Mayor Bloomberg gets ready to go to sleep tonight….on his sumptuous silk sheets, in his million dollar mansion…he is trying to kill off the Occupy Wall Street protests by denying them the use of sleeping bags…..while claiming that he is the number one defender of free speech. WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!!! Instead of cleaning up the park, he should help clean up the economic and social mess created by his Wall Street brethren. His city is suffering. The Emperor has no clothes. The Emperor has NO SHAME!

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