Scrub-a-dub-dub, you’re still leaving, bub!


Protesters Sweep Up Before Being Swept Out

As protest organizers and attorneys discussed whether to resist attempts to clear and clean the park they’ve occupied for nearly a month, participants in the Occupy Wall Street demonstration armed themselves with mops Thursday morning and started cleaning the area.

“We’re willing to help clean. We want what’s best for us and the community, that’s why we’re going to remain here,” said Faith Laugier, 33 years old. The East Harlem resident describes herself as a “full-time revolutionary.”

Brookfield Properties, the landlord of the privately owned Zuccotti Park, has notified protesters that crews will arrive at the park at 7 a.m. Friday for a planned cleanup. The company has said protesters will have to move for the cleanup, but that it would allow people back into certain areas of the park, provided they follow the rules, which prohibit lying on the ground, among other things.

Brookfield’s notice was read aloud at an emergency morning meeting, after which various members addressed the group. Some advocated for the cleaning efforts, while others said they should scout other privately-owned, public spaces to occupy. One protester announced “We need to take more parks,” and proposed a 24-hour occupation of Tompkins Square Park, located in the East Village as a trial run to test police reaction.

“We’re waiting on legal [advisers] to see what the ramifications are if we stay,” said Lily Gist, 24, and a student at School of Visual Arts. She said volunteers from the National Lawyers Guild would attend another emergency meeting at noon.

Emptying the park, which has formed the base of operations for protesters since mid-September, will take a good deal of work. In addition to temporary structures, the space has grown crowded with generators, storage bins, tables and computer supplies.


Operation #wallstcleanup

On Wednesday/Thursday, all campers/supporters should reach out to friends/family/anyone to donate or purchase brooms, mops, squeegees, dust pans, garbage bags, power washers and any other cleaning supplies to be collected at sanitation. The sanitation committee should move full-speed ahead on purchase of bins allocated by consensus at GA.

After General Assembly on Thursday, we’ll have a full-camp cleanup session. Sanitation can coordinate, and anyone who is available will help with the massive community effort!

Then, Friday morning, we’ll awake and position ourselves with our brooms and mops in a human chain around the park, linked at the arms. If NYPD attempts to enter, we’ll peacefully/non-violently stand our ground and those who are willing will get arrested.

Afterwards, at 9am, we’ll march with brooms and mops to Wall Street to do a massive #wallstcleanup march, where the real mess is!


Prediction:

It won’t matter how much they clean, the owner’s representatives will still show up tomorrow and demand everyone leave. If the protesters don’t leave willingly the cops will arrest and/or evict everyone. Then they’ll bring in garbage trucks and haul everything away.

The only way to stop them is to get an injunction. I doubt that any judge will grant an injunction to squatters on private property when the owner asks them to leave temporarily so the place can be cleaned and inspected for routine maintenance.

Once they are out the city will keep a bunch of cops there to prevent the protestors from re-establishing their tent city. They’ll be allowed to come there every day to protest but they won’t be allowed to stay overnight. Other reasonable rules may be imposed as well.

If I was Chief Kelly I would blockade the park starting at 7 am to keep anyone from entering. Rather than move in right away I would see how long they can hold out without food or restrooms. Anyone who leaves won’t be allowed back in until the park is reopened.

Let them form a human chain and keep the cops there to see how long the protestors can maintain it. Then I’d wait until 5 pm to move in.

Nobody’s free speech rights will be interfered with, because they don’t have a right to occupy private property.

Tomorrow we’ll see if I’m right. I hope it’s televised so we can live-blog it.

(Glenn Beck had no input on this post)



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53 Responses to Scrub-a-dub-dub, you’re still leaving, bub!

  1. myiq2xu says:

    BTW: We’re about to log our 35,000th comment.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I’m sure 17k comments are mine 😀

      Speaking of Beckistan, subscribe to the newsletter, sometimes out there, but always stuff that makes you go hmmmmm? Nor will you find it on Obama, Valerie or Van Jones’ FB and twitter BFF’s.

      http://www.theblaze.com/

      Yes, I attended his 8.28 rally, it was non-political, just 3 hours of celebrating what’s great about America. Inspiring stuff,with Sarah, troops, MLK’s daughter… not preachy, and yes, I did #OccupyL’EnfantHotel. Fun fact for the left who thinks they drove him off Fox to a silly little internet channel. Fox salary=9 million, GBTV(owner) salary=20 million. Total paying “viewers” on his channel have blown the Oprah network ratings out of the water. Good for him. Another college drop out success story (one semester Yale).

      • myiq2xu says:

        I once watched less than 5 minutes of Glenn Beck’s show. I don’t need to see more.

        That’s why we keep joking about Beck – *someone* thinks we’re all Beckistanis but we’re not.

      • WMCB says:

        Meh. I think Beck is neither the Devil nor the Source of Truth. I think he’s a political showman. He’s the right’s version of Michael Moore. Which means he often digs up pertinent stories that no one else will touch (good-thanks for the info), then he goes off the deep end with it (bad- stop hyperventilating, and that limb you’re on is looking shaky.)

        I honestly understand neither the haters of nor the champions of Beck. But then I never understood the obsession with Moore as either the devil or Knight Triumphant, either.

        • DandyTiger says:

          My view as well. Snake oil salesman making lots of noise. Nothing to see there. Nothing to obsess over either.

    • foxyladi14 says:

      gotta comment more. 🙂

  2. Three Wickets says:

    Looks like they have a plan to stay, or a blueprint or something. Protesters’ Long-Term Plans for Occupying Zuccotti Park

    • myiq2xu says:

      This is actually evidence that would work against the protestors.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Oh good, I hope they’re still there next month. I will definitely visit and wish them well or something 😛 Free lunch is on me for RD and NYS, rsvp a DM to @blogho if you *like* McDonalds 😀 Or we can belly up to the FREE corporate bar at Ground Occupy? Up to you. Nov 15-18.

      This is fun 😉

  3. crawdad says:

    If I was Chief Kelly I would let the cops stand around eating donuts and drinking coffee in front of the protestors.

    If protestor urinates in public the cops could move in and arrest them, along with anyone who interferes.

  4. angienc says:

    We’re willing to help clean

    Let’s make this clear: you are willing to help clean the mess you made. What do you want, a medal? Did it not occur to you that perhaps you should have been cleaning up after yourselves to begin with?

    Of course not. Mom probably still does your laundry for you.

    • angienc says:

      SOS! Someone please fix my tags.

      TY in advance.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Yeah, but they put them in the hamper for her, cuz they’re willing to help.

    • WMCB says:

      Well, how fucking noble of you to “pitch in” and take some of the load off of the magical trash-fairies whose responsibility it truly is to clean up your mess.

      Also, if you’ll let me know if you wipe your own ass and blow your own nose at least 50-80% of the time, I’ll call the Pope and get that canonization underway. Because you, cupcake, are an inspiration to us all.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      My husband’s grandfather still does laundry for my 61-year-old mother-in-law. She’s never done a load of laundry in her life. Some people never grow up, especially boomers and their progeny.

      • angienc says:

        That is so sad. What kind of self-respecting person allows her (I’m guessing at least) 80 year old father do her laundry?

        I was lucky — my mom went back to school to get her PhD right before I started high school and we all had to start *really* pitching in around the house. I’ve been doing my own laundry since I was 12.

        • WMCB says:

          I was sat in front of the sink on a barstool when I was 5, to learn to wash dishes. By 8, it would never have occurred to me to ask my mom to make me a sandwich – if I wanted one, I made one, and cleaned it up. I did all my own laundry, and a good part of the rest of the housework, by the time I was 10. By 12 I was the one cooking dinner 2 or 3 nights a week. By 14, if the house wasn’t clean on Saturday, my sisters and I couldn’t go out. Not our room. The house.

        • angienc says:

          Ha, ha! We had a footstool for us to do the dishes! We started a little later than you (doing dishes were probably 10, but our own rooms, probably around 8), but same basic concept.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          He’s 87 this year. We had to finally convince the parental-in-laws to actually carry the laundry downstairs to the basement for him instead of making him do it himself because he is wobbly at this advanced age. That was an ordeal that eventually led to a major breakdown between me and hubby and his folks, which is still not repaired after all this time and will never be now as far as I’m concerned. They can suck it up forever. I took their son and they are not getting him back. He hates them more than he ever did now. And he hated them when I met him. He told me on the first date he was raised by wolves. I thought he was joking. Turns out, he wasn’t.

          Anyway, sorry for the off-topic rant, but I really, really hate my mother-in-law. My father-in-law is just her stupid dupe. I hate him too, but at least I can pity him since she enshrined his balls in glass some 40 years ago.

        • WMCB- You sound like you grew up in the same house I did. Yup Saturday was clean – the HOUSE.” and not just in our house either- the whole neighborhood was the same. We started setting and clearing the table when we were about 4 or 5- older sisters taught us how to do dishes starting when we were 7 or so. And after the dishes were done each night- we wiped down the stove and countertops and swept the floor.

    • DeniseVB says:

      What’s with the sponge mop in the photo op? I’m sure the park is 350cc power washer worthy by now. Like my kitchen floor 😛

  5. HELENK says:

    Occupy Wall Street protesters plan to form a human chain around Zuccotti Park tomorrow morning http://t.co/vtqngUEb

  6. HELENK says:

    Police Commission Raymond Kelly has confirmed #OWS camping gear won’t be allowed back in Zuccotti Park after power washing.

  7. HELENK says:

    Zuccotti #OWS protesters voted to spend $3,000 from $150,000 fund of donations on power washers, gardening supplies, pro sanitation workers.

  8. WMCB says:

    I agree with the siege idea. Cordon it off and wait them out. When no trendy pizza and organic carrots get delivered, they will start leaving.

    Oh, and I can’t wait for the pictures of what’s left behind. Because it’s going to look like a dump, left by a bunch of inconsiderate assholes. And it will be a big contrast to the photos of the spotlessness after the teaparties left.

    I applaud those protesters who do want to make the effort to clean up. But I am betting they are in the minority. From what I’ve seen, most won’t care – common courtesy is beneath them and so bourgeois.

    • angienc says:

      I’m slightly OCD/germaphobe (not enough to interfere with my everyday life like having to wash my hands 100x etc but enough that every 3rd Saturday you will find me on my hands & knees scrubbing my baseboards) so whatever sympathy I may have had for these people went out the window the minute I saw pics of the squalor they were “living” in. I don’t care how good your cause is, if you allow that filth to accumulate around you, you’ve lost me.

  9. HELENK says:

    they really do not get it do they? It is private property. Gardening supplies??????

    What was a nice park for the neighborhood has been turned into a dump.
    Considering the price of real estate in NY , I would build an office building on it so these loads could never come back

  10. Lola-at-Large says:

    It’s amazing to me how many of these folks don’t have the technological skills to put the lock down on their Facebook pages. https://www.facebook.com/lilygist

    • elliesmom says:

      The world really wants to know that she went shopping for a bridesmaid’s dress with her mother. lol But her lack of skills doesn’t surprise me. My students are permanently attached to their electronic equipment, but they don’t really know much beyond the basics about how to use it, and they are really insulted when a gray-haired old lady tries to teach them. I’m supposed to be “computer illiterate”. Doesn’t matter that we old folks designed the internet – under Al Gore’s supervision, of course.

  11. timothy2010 says:

    Someone from NYPD should just tweet that RadioHead is playing on one of the oudoor am morning shows.

  12. Mimi says:

    Cleaning up after yourself is one of those better late than never things. But I am not so sure they know what they are doing. They are asking “donate or purchase brooms, mops, squeegees, dust pans, garbage bags, power washers and any other cleaning supplies to be collected at sanitation”. I thought this was a park like with dirt and trees and stuff. You do not mop a park and pressure washers can damage most paving and especially stonework. What is there to clean up but garbage? If it is really bad a front end loader is used. The rest is raked up and put in bio-waste bags.

    • Mimi says:

      Can you resign a bankruptcy? I know you can’t plead the fifth in one.

      • angienc says:

        No one is resigning a bankruptcy & he, personally, isn’t the one in bankruptcy (from what I’ve seen) — it is only the company that is in bankruptcy. But he does need the trustee/court’s approval to make any big chances in the company’s officers like that, which is why the resignation was filed. I don’t know if there are any issues that would cause the court to NOT allow his resignation.

  13. yttik says:

    The Occupy Seattle people are still refusing to move even though they have an invite from the mayor to set up at City Hall plaza, complete with camping and free coffee. It’s only a couple of blocks away from their current location. They, just like the NY Occupiers, have apparently come to a completely open minded, consensual, and non astro-turfed decision to suddenly start cleaning up the park they are in.

    I guess, completely on their own and based on nothing but the will of the people who are there, they have also decided that, “Friday morning, we’ll awake and position ourselves with our brooms and mops in a human chain around the park, linked at the arms.” The psychic abilities of this grass roots protest to channel the exact same wording coming from NY Occupy, is pretty remarkable.

  14. HELENK says:

    don’t tell OWS
    backtrack bundler billionaire investor in soylyndra paid ZERO taxes for years

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/solyndra-funder-kaiser-paid-zero-taxes-years

  15. WMCB says:

    Too funny. Someone went to the OWS assembly meeting and kept minutes and was tweeting them:

    Ace’s response on AoS:

    Yes, please! Will you stop doing productive and necessary work, work that offers people heat and electricity, so that we might fuck about undisturbed with our new LARP we call Committee of the Whole?

  16. Three Wickets says:

    Wait, now the right hates General Electric?

    So it was jarring to read in the Wall Street Journal this week that GE is now a punching bag for the political right. Sarah Palin has charged on her Facebook page that GE has become “the poster child of corporate welfare and crony capitalism.” When Newt Gingrich attacked GE for paying no taxes during the Tea Party-sponsored presidential debate last month, the audience applauded—twice.

    What is going on here? How did a venerable left-wing target become an apparently convenient right-wing target?

    Crony capitalism, which both parties practice, can also take more formal shape as state sponsored capitalism with industrial policies a la China, Russia, Japan, Indonesia, Russia, etc. The crony favoritism aspect is difficult to avoid but not necessarily synonymous with state capitalism. In any case, state capitalism would be antithetical to classic conservative economic philosophy. So it makes sense that Palin would call it out, even if most of her Republican colleagues don’t always. What is interesting though is that the OWS protesters are also calling for “separation of state and business” which makes them natural allies with Palin. But movement progressives put visceral Palin hatred ahead of any discussion/debate on actual issues. So again, they come out sounding like hypocrites. It’s not 99% of the country, it’s 99% of their tribe.

  17. 1539days says:

    So, who’s gonna clean the excrement from that police car?

  18. Sorry for your disappointment. The unwashed powerless won one!

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