So as you probably already know the festivities at Zuccotti Squatters’ Park were postponed. But something here ain’t right.
Supposedly the park owners (Brookfield Properties) had a change of heart and last night canceled their request for police assistance in cleaning the park.
So why did the police wait until the last minute to announce it?
Why did the police announce the clean-up so far in advance?
Why was it scheduled for 6am on a Friday?
If the police really planned on clearing the park the best time would be late in the evening with very little notice. A Sunday night would be ideal. There would be less traffic and short notice would prevent crowds from gathering. They could close the surrounding streets to prevent more protesters from entering.
And for the cynical police-haters: Doing it after dark would make it easier to get away with violence.
I don’t think they ever really intended to clear the park this morning. This was all a feint. I can think of a couple explanations for why they did it.
The forced the OWS leaders to emerge and commit themselves. Once this was announced OWS began scrambling to prepare. Lawyers were brought in and instructions given to the protesters. If you were building a case for criminal conspiracy this would give you incriminating evidence.
The police want to wear the OWS out rather than have a direct confrontation. How many times can they call out the reserves before their supporters get tired of missing work and traveling all the way to Manhattan for a false alarm.
Let’s not forget – after the boy cried wolf a few times nobody came to his rescue and the wolf ate him.
The city and the property owners don’t really need to take action, all they need to do is wait. The days are getting shorter and the nights longer. Winter is on the way.
OTOH the usual suspects are deliriously happy and think they won a big victory. But they haven’t won anything yet.
This is a great victory for One Way Society. Your denialist theory was obviously beamed into your cortex by Glenn Beck.
Down Twinkles!
But they haven’t won anything yet.
What is it they’re trying to *win?*
Permanent squatting rights?
The lack of restrooms gives a double meaning to “squatting in the park”
Apparently the fun isn’t over yet.
The protesters have decided to hold a spontaneous celebration/protest march. At least 8 arrests so far are reported.
TIn foil here: NY City drew their true attitudes out by doing this. Gave em every chance to comply with the law, after having given them 3 weeks of not complying (permits, park rules, etc). Established with the public that flexibility was shown, but the hipsters were unwilling to cooperate.
Publicly, this is negative for the occupiers. When they’re finally removed, the public will not be so eager to blame the cops.
That’s my theory. We can see who is playing chess, and who is playing checkers.
And they got them to clean up some of their own mess. Reminds me of threatening to ground a kid because they room is toxic resulting in furious cleaning.
This!
LOL So true!
I read that they marched down to Wall Street, jumped the barricades, began throwing bottles and bags of trash at the police, resulting in cops/marchers physically engaging. Several arrested.
Haven’t seen/found any videos yet, though. More to come.
It seems Mary believes everything she reads!
CBS, darlin. NOT a wingnut channel.
Time for you to grow up, Red.
Here ya go. Yep, jumped the barricades, and tried to en masse block the police scooters who were trying to clear the street. Knocked one over.
Video:
http://publish.vx.roo.com/nypost/viral/2010?vxSiteId=b0debab1-419e-413a-bc36-ecb11d2ff4f8&vxChannel=NY%20Post&vxClipId=1458_1325943&vxBitrate=300
Justin Idiot:
I wonder if Jeralyn is there?
Bet a lot of the professional instigators are feeling less than victorious– they were probably hoping for the optics of the children being fitted into plastic cuffs. Add a little spark to the staged events tomorrow, looking to CAPITALIZE on the anger of the misguided tools. There would have been violence.
Just wish I had a clue as to how this all fits together.
Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/occupy-boston-protesters-spit-on-coast-guard-member-20111013#ixzz1alL1wW2i
This whole “movement” reeks of dude boy entitlement. That’s my personal reason for remaining skeptical. Spitting on a woman in a Coast Guard uniform?? I mean, it’s the Coast Guard for crying out loud. All they do is rescue people. Assholes.
It’s all dudes over there. Almost all white dudes in fact.
Read on FB about several incidents of sexual assault at OWS. Not surprised.
“The movement’s white male bent has prompted some female activists to opt not to participate in Occupy Wall Street at all. Over at In These Times , Sady Doyle isn’t so sure that OWS cares about women, noting that the same men who had poked fun at her activism before OWS were now imploring her to join them in protest. She resents the movement’s ostentatious goals and overestimation of its importance. Further, they didn’t support her and other women involved in Slutwalk, so why would she support them?”
http://jezebel.com/ows/
That’s a really good point. This is a very male dominated protest. In Seattle it’s the same thing, at least 75% white dudes, not many women at all.
My faith in womanity is restored.
HONK!!! 🙂
my youngest granddaughter is applying to the Coast Guard Academy and if she can not get in will go into the Coast Guard for 4 years to help pay for college.
These so-called protesters should be thanking God for the Coast Guard and the other military service members without them these entitled brats would not be able to “protest” Maybe they are upset because the Coast Guard stops so many drug runs
Maybe they are upset because the Coast Guard stops so many drug runs
Heh.
FYI- Congess is holding a hearing right now on Solyndra. Just a coincidence that the cops are cracking down all over the country right?
LOL!
Interesting reading. via Twitter.
Breitbart has gotten hold of an email archive of OWS planning:
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/10/14/crowdsource-this-social-list-emails-expose-occupywallstreet-conspiracy-to-destablize-global-markets-governments/
Interesting. One of the prominent names in those emails is Lisa Fithian, who has a long history of organizing violent protests, as in global WTO. She says “I have no issue with property destruction,” if it achieves goals.
Apparently she led a Journolist-type group long before Sept 17, including labor, anarchists, etc, planning violence at Occupy meetings. They have the emails, they say.
Wow. Can’t wait to read more.
NYPD has blocked off Wall St. at Broadway. No one can get in without showing their work ID.
I’m seeing reports on CBS of protestors throwing bags of garbage and bottles at the police.
#OWS Non-Violence UR Doing Wrong.
Look at this, folks:
Latest Gallup: Generic Republican 46
Obama 38
The longer this Occupy stuff goes on, the lower he goes.
Breitbart has released the emails. Evidently there are over 1000 pages of them. Here’s how he got them. Enjoy.
http://biggovernment.com/thomasryan/2011/10/14/the-email-archive-of-the-occupywallstreet-movement-anarchists-socialists-jihadists-unions-democrats/
They are crowdsourcing the emails.
what’s sauce for the grizzly is sauce for the chihuahas
Ha!
Yep. I’m sure some on the right will hyperventilate over some unimportant stuff, but it appears to me that there is ample material there to show a lot of not-so-savory characters organizing OWS from the beginning.
I’m sure people are digging through the PDF’s as we speak.
{{digs}}
Word is, the demonstrators want to change their group name to “Organization United for Global Change.”
Somebody tell RD. 🙂
I smell a klown-told-ya-so post hatching.
But of course they do, Mary. Did you ever see much mention of the constitution, or the rule of law, at these protests from the beginning? I didn’t. Did you ever see any attempt to bring the conversation around to sane regulation administered by the form of govt we have? Or enforcing laws that the banks have broken? Or a call to preserve our civil liberties as outlined in our Bill of Rights?.
Nope. All the talk of “rights” was based on feeling. “Rights” are whatever the mob wants them to be, with no connection to underlying reason or our form of govt. All the rage at the banks was deliberately generalized (with some Jew hate thrown in), not attached to concrete transgressions that the law should and can address without tearing down the whole system.
Generalized, non-specific rage at shadowy boogiemen has almost ALWAYS been the tool of bad actors. If these idiots had ever read a history book that didn’t laud Che and Stalin, they’d know that. (Or if they had lived long enough to watch it happen time and again.)
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/14/vile-wall-street-occupiers-desecrate-american-flag/
has anyone told this bunch there are now flights from Key West to Cuba. The could probably get a group rate. Che’s followers are sure to be welcome
O.U.G.C. Would that be pronounced Ugh-Cee ? Ooo-gah-cee ?
😀
LOL I haven’t a clue. But I just went to see Confluence—she still thinks these people are the only ones who can save the country.
Oh—-and cops are mean bastards. All of them.
I think she’s stuck in emotional adolescence.
Oh…and she’s drooooling in admiration of the crowd marching down a wide street to the restaurant where Bloomberg is “having lunch” with a bunch of rich establishment people.
What the hell—I saw that scene in Dr. Zhivago. (snort)
*shrug* I really don’t care what RD is doing or writing. Not something I spend a lot of time thinking about. Not worth the attention.
Agree completely. Really.
Just thought the board would find it funny. I did.
Not ragging on you for posting it Mary. Not at all. 😀
Not a prob, WMCB. You know we love ya. 🙂
I think you’ve nailed it.
It really feels more & more like a cult. Pretty sad to see people who have withstood the Obama cult fall for this.
Of course it’s also a good way to get blog hits.
Dear God……
As my Mom would say- “Holy Mary Mother of God”
Have they lost their minds? Do they realize that Kent State was real and people REALLY DIED?
It’s not a video game damnit!
Holy Sh*t. New civility?
no, its the new stupidity!
I just saw you retweet that.
Unflippingbelievable.
Here is the video- MSNBC
Family Night ! Sounds more like human shields to me. Cops won’t mace babies. Hope they have child protection services on site.
http://occupywallst.org/article/parents-bring-children-ows-tonight/
Good updates on the site and the comments are most interesting.
You have got to be kidding me. Using fucking CHILDREN as a tool to avoid getting maced?
That’s disgusting.
Note at the bottom of that link says “This event has been cancelled.” Well, no shit. LOL
Good. Glad its cancelled. Disturbed that it was suggested.
And BTW, I have no problem with taking kids to genuinely peaceful protests or rallies.
But taking them into civil disobedience situations that are already tense with ongoing clashes with police is just stupid and irresponsible.
R/S for Oct 21, 4pm-11am
http://www.parentsforoccupywallst.com/
Jaysus. Any sane parent will stay home. Good grief.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/14/us-italy-goldman-protests-idUSTRE79D3ZM20111014?
do they know that the cops in Italy can not take a joke? They frown upon breaking and entering