Herman Cain is pro-choice?

Herman Cain Tells Piers Morgan That He Is Anti-Abortion, Yet Pro-Choice?

Tonight, Herman Cain sat down with CNN’s Piers Morgan to discuss his stance on a variety of issues. And it would appear that, where abortion is concerned, Cain is “anti-abortion in all cases,” yet “pro-choice.” Interesting, yes?

Let’s delve into the nuts and bolts of his beliefs:

First, Morgan asked Cain about his thoughts concerning homosexuality. Cain explained that, because of his religious beliefs, he believes that homosexuality is a sin in addition to considering it a choice. Morgan seemed not to buy the sincerity of Cain’s belief in the latter, but Cain held his ground, adding that neither Morgan nor anyone else has been able to offer him sound scientific evidence to convince him that a person is born homosexual rather than choosing to become gay at some point in one’s life. That said, he believes gay Americans have a right to make that choice, and “you don’t see me bashing them for it.” Furthermore, “I respect their right to make that choice,” even though “I don’t have to agree with it.”

Later, Cain conceded that Morgan “might be right” about homosexuality being something inherent and not chosen, and maintained that homosexuality as choice is “his opinion.”

Morgan, moving on to the next point of discussion, then asked Cain about his thoughts on contraception and abortion. Cain believes, evidently, that life begins at conception and is personally against abortion, no matter the circumstances surrounding that choice (including, say, a child conceived through rape and/or incest). There followed some hugger-mugger over whether Cain would still be against abortion if his daughter or granddaughter happened to be raped — which is silly, of course. If you’re against something as a matter of principle, it means you’re firm enough in your conviction to have it hold in all cases. To do otherwise, to make special allowances for one’s kin or close friends, would be hypocritical, and hypocrisy is something no candidate is going to readily admit to, ever.


And yet, interestingly, here’s what Cain said to Morgan concerning abortion for people who are not his family members:

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.

Morgan then said that Cain cannot hide behind the “mask of the pizza guy,” and that, as a person who may potentially become president, his views on issues like abortion become “a directive to the nation.” Cain’s response?

No, they don’t. I can have an opinion on an issue without it being a directive on the nation. The government shouldn’t be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to a social decision that they need to make.

So, there you have it: Herman Cain is against abortion, personally, but is firmly pro-choice, as he believes the government should not intervene in social decisions. And that extends to same-sex marriage, by the way. As you may recall, Cain said recently, during an appearance on Meet The Press, that “I wouldn’t seek a constitutional ban for same-sex marriage, but I am pro-traditional marriage.”

I know some people will say that Cain is being inconsistent, but I see no inconsistency. He’s saying “Here’s my opinion, but I don’t think my opinion should be the law for everyone.”

Imagine if the official government policy on social issues was “Mind your own business.”

If you think abortion is wrong – don’t have one. If you are opposed to gay marriage – don’t get one.

Works for me.

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17 Responses to Herman Cain is pro-choice?

  1. Common sense has broken out! Please god it spreads!

  2. dm says:

    I’m sick of social issues driving politics…these things should not be dictated by the government, especially the feds.

    While my opinion my differ slightly from Cain’s, I completely agree that his feelings and opinions should not dictate social policy for the country.

  3. catarina says:

    The Herminator speaks!

    Suck it, Mittens!

  4. DeniseVB says:

    Cain’s views will resonate with a lot of people tired of the wedge issues debates.

  5. Mary says:

    Makes sense to me, too.

    It is a private decision to be made privately. Period. Nobody else’s business.

    Verrry impressive, Mr. Cain!

  6. HELENK says:

    Mr Cain has a brain and knows how to use it

    People sometimes have to make decisions that are heartbreaking but personal and it is no one else’s business. They are not walking in their shoes.
    The government would screw up a one car funeral, why should it be able to make personal decisions for you

  7. Jeffhas says:

    This guy gets better and better – the problem is he speaks too much common sense, and the jurnopolitburo will not have any of that…. I am also curious to see how the real right wing handles these comments, because up ’til now he’s been able to keep the conservatives – maybe he keeps the Tea Party (which is much more focused on fiscal issues)?

    I can pull the lever for this guy, no problem…. and with all the added benefits (protest vote-x2, AA’s having to make a Solomon’s choice, leftheads exploding) I’m actually getting excited about this.

  8. elliesmom says:

    This has been my position on abortion since I was old enough to have an opinion. What is sad is that women who are pro-choice have often yelled at me for not being pro-choice enough. When I have suggested that there is a place for women to meet in the middle on the issue of abortion, and this is it, they have insisted that you are either for abortion or against it. If you personally would not choose to abort your own child, then you must be a right-winger who will taint the group. I stopped supporting groups working for abortion rights because I got sick of not being pure enough for them, but I would never work against them either. It’s just not on my radar anymore. I’m glad to see Cain putting this position in the mix.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I washed my hands with the feminist movement in the 70’s when I “chose” to be a stay-at-home-mom. At the time, it meant you were weak and submissive to, horrors, a MANbeast. I was worthless to their vision of what society should be.

  9. WMCB says:

    He pretty much took that view on homosexuality as well. His faith teaches it’s wrong, so that’s what he’s gonna believe. But it’s not his business.

    This kind of thing reminds me of my catholic aunt. She firmly believes that divorce for any reason other than adultery is wrong. When I left my husband, she never lectured or berated me, was very supportive, and loved the heck out of me. BUT, if I had insisted on backing her against a wall and demanding an answer, she’d have maintained that yes, she believed it was sin.

    Does that make her a horrible bad person? Not in my book. She’s a wonderful loving person with whom I disagree. She didn’t berate me for my “sin”, and I’m not going to berate her for a belief she holds, by backing her against a wall and demanding she justify or recant it.

    It’s about how we treat each other, and don’t try to control one another. I did something she thought was wrong. She holds a view I think is wrong. Didn’t matter a hill of beans to either of us in our daily life.

  10. WMCB says:

    My views on abortion are nuanced. I do believe that at some point yes, you are taking a human life. I just think that the liberty of the mother re: her own body can’t be totally overridden, not even for life. So we cannot criminalize it, it needs to remain a legal option

    OTOH, I have no problem whatsoever with pro-life women seeking to persuade, calling it a moral wrong, or pointing out things about fetal development and the preciousness of human life. If they are offering support services etc so more women can choose not to abort (and many of them do offer that), then more power to ’em.

    My line is THE LAW, because of the inherent conflict between Life of the fetus and Liberty of the mother. That makes me pro-choice. I am not, however, pro-abortion. I view it as a sometimes necessary evil that is frankly overused. But I don’t trust the govt to decide “necessary”, so the law has to remain, despite some abuses.

  11. trist says:

    Wow, I’m actually surprised to hear him state his stance, and have it not be so right leaning. Now can he, or will he hold to it once the right starts hammering him about it. That will at least show what kind of conviction he has. I mean say what you will about baby bush, and there’s PLENTY to say, he was always consistent in his believes. No matter how wrong we may think they are, he believed in something. To me that’s very important in a potential leader. So when both sides are telling Cain he’s wrong, will he stick to his guns or follow the latest polling? Guess we’ll see…

  12. 1539days says:

    Just for clarity.

    I was listening to Hannity (horrors!) in the car when he was talking to Herman Cain. He said that he is against abortion and that he will do what he can as president to support that belief. He wants to appoint conservative judges and will not sign off on any additional abortion funding. He walked most of it back, instead saying that in the long run, he can’t do much as a president to stop it.

    • fif says:

      I don’t get the impression that he really knows how this whole thing (ie: running for president, the government as a complex institution) works, and he gets caught in these situations, because he just speaks, and then gets confronted with the political consequences of what he has said. I like his authenticity, but I’ve seen the damage of someone who is too inexperienced to be president and has to learn on the job–I’m not interested in experimenting again.

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