Saturday Afternoon Open Thread

Posted on October 22, 2011 by Myiq2xu - BA, JD, FJB

The peace was nice, but I miss the prosperity the most.

(via Legal Insurrection)

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35 Responses to Saturday Afternoon Open Thread

  1. WMCB says:
    October 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Ha! Love it!

  2. myiq2xu says:
    October 22, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    The peace was nice, but I miss the prosperity the most.

    There’s a double entendre in there somewhere.

  3. 1539days says:
    October 22, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    It turns out this Iraq troop withdrawal was a result of Iraq. They wanted US soldiers to essentially be subject to Iraqi courts. The prospect of an American on trial in another country is pretty disturbing to me, considering recent history. It turns out to be a win-win for Obama, though. He can claim a kept promise of withdrawing troops. When the country goes to hell, he can just blame George Bush, again.

    • dorkle says:
      October 22, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      My memory is so fraking bad, but didn’t Bush set the withdrawal date?

      I don’t really care what Obama says anymore. He pretty much failed miserably and didn’t even meet my expectations, which weren’t much to begin with–just don’t fuck up.

      I have the sinking suspicion that he’s going to commit troops somewhere else and it will go unnoticed. He just sent some troops to Africa, right?

      • WMCB says:
        October 22, 2011 at 12:24 pm

        Yes. The entire withdrawal timetable was set and signed by Bush before he left office. And Obama is following it to a tee. BUSH signed the 2008 agreement that mandated all troops out by Dec 31st 2011.

        He’s not doing anything out of the ordinary – he’s still following Bush’s plan.

        • 1539days says:
          October 22, 2011 at 12:36 pm

          There’s a reason why. The Bush administration was able to negotiate the 3 year plan where American troops weren’t under Iraqi law, such as it is. Obama’s team apparently is not as good as Bush.

    • Lola-at-Large says:
      October 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm

      Haha! The never had to drag people who urinated in public and went batsh!t crazy out of a Tea Party rally. All I’m saying…

  5. WMCB says:
    October 22, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Oh, BTW – I wonder if anyone will do a front page post now on how religious people need to STFU and not involve religion in OWS? Because, you know, the “shut up about God” rule was such an attraction.

    CAIR is going to hold Friday prayers at OWS, and say they want to

    “expand the role of New York Muslims in the Occupy movement.” A “sermon on social justice in Islam” is slated to be delivered my Imam Aiyub Abdul Baki

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/cair-to-hold-friday-prayers-at-obama-endorsed-ows/

  6. swanspirit says:
    October 22, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Obama wants to take credit for anything he can , it is part of his history ; as far back as Chicago and his Illinois state record, when he took credit for bills he never wrote .
    So now he wants credit for withdrawal from Iraq , no matter how poorly executed , or that the facts are, the arrangements were entirely made prior to his administration .
    He was “afraid” to begin in Libya , Hillary Clinton , Susan Rice and Samantha Powers dragged him in kicking and screaming . It took him three critical weeks or more to begin because he asked everyone else in the world except our congress to join in and give him permission , and now that this Libyan action is over he wants “credit” .

    He is one of those people who won’t do something, or put their name to a project with risk , ( unless he is guaranteed kickbacks from cronies ) because they are afraid it will fail , goes ahead reluctantly behind other people , but when success is achieved, steps out in front of everyone and says ” I did it!!! “

  7. timothy2010 says:
    October 22, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Everything with kids this time of year is admission plus two cans of food. Thanksgiving is a stone’s throw away. I have witnessed women showing up in crisis centers with a plastic bag. They get put up but because there is an anonymity less money is available. All kinds of basics can be bought for very little. Takes a phone call to a crisis center. You can’t deliver as they need protection but for 25 bucks we can make things a little easier- razors, socks, tampons, toothpate on and on. Also I used to think dropping off clothes meant something. Be careful where you do. I have no problem dropping off and having a jacket sold for 25 but when I drop off kids clothes I’d rather they go to the kids. Gonna get cold and more women will be showing up needing help than there is money to accommodate. Think nuns in the USA protect more people than witness protection. So keep in mind when and if you donate women’s crisis centers.

  8. kk says:
    October 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    in Melbourne Australia, they had about 100 people occupy our city square. They had been there for a week and had agreed to leave. Trade on the square had dropped 70%, and I understand some public events had to be cancelled. The formal eviction papers were delivered at 7am. The occupiers decided not to leave. The police force was brought in, and they were removed using minimal force necessary. There were no injuries requiring hospitalization as far as I understand. The occupyers were carted away, but not charged provided they stay away for 48 hours. Their tents and the like were taken down and moved out… Tne remaining protesters marched to the Trades Hall building (union hq). they have decided to set up somewhere else. now lawyers for the group are talking about suing the police for damaging their property! journos are referring to the protests as ‘anti greed’ demonstrations…..most of the comments in the paper arent so generous in the descriptions. Only a relatively few people follow American politics and I doubt whether they are even aware of OWS. Sorry, I would paste a link bit cant seem to do it on the ipad.

    PS not a puppy in sight

    • Pips says:
      October 23, 2011 at 5:00 am

      … and in Copenhagen Denmark, about a thousand gathered at the city square for a “solidarity protest”, consisting mostly of “professional activists, part time street performers, selfmade craftsmen and small time left leaning revolutionary survivors” in the words of the biggest center-left newspaper. 😀

      On tv they showed one of the latter, an older 68er (boomer) digging out his red flag, thrilled that he was given yet another chance to go wave it, lol.

      Later, a handful of the younger crowd, the professional troublema… I mean activists (called “the autonomous” here) refused to leave the square and had to be helped by the police. While they were chanting “The whole World is watching”, heh, 4 policemen for each protester carefully, respectfully (really!) carried them to the waiting van, while the insulted youth screamed at the camera: “Look! Look how they ar treating us!” lol. Wouldn’t be surprised though, to learn that lawyers for the group will be suing the police.

      Haven’t heard about the protest since. And no … no puppies here either. 😆

      • Pips says:
        October 23, 2011 at 5:17 am

        Please note: I’m laughing at the “solidarity”, “down with capitalism” crowd, not the ows crowd as I have yet to find out what they are actually all about.

        (I mean who exactly is this “Wall Street” they are protesting? The street itself? The stock exchange building? Everyone working there? Money makers? Money earners? What, where, why, who …? And why is it that I need to attend an occupation to find that out?)

  9. Catfish says:
    October 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Our future under the 9-9-9 plan:

  10. Lola-at-Large says:
    October 22, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    They’re forming a women’s group for OWS. Code Pink is helping: http://twitter.com/#!/WomenOWS

    • DeniseVB says:
      October 22, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      Something tells me women are not being treated as equals in New World Orderland ? hmmm, hmmm, hmmm

      • dorkle says:
        October 22, 2011 at 3:45 pm

        The fact that women even have to form their own splinter group to have their voices heard is ridiculous. Especially in a movement that is supposed to be representative of the 99%. This isn’t the time of Charlemagne, it’s 2011–give women a real seat at the roundtable and oversight into social, political, and economic matters already.

        This revelation isn’t so surprising to me, though. Look at what happened in Iran during the revolutions in the 60s and 70s. The movement was built on the backs of women and when the wave of change happened, they were completely cut out of the process. The same thing happened in Egypt, recently. In the US, it took place during the Civil Rights movement; white women lead the charge for REAL equality, but were sidelined and had their issues put on the back burner where it’s still simmering.

        This is a trend that will likely continue until they day I die, which is pretty pathetic.

        • murphy says:
          October 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm

          And when you consider that the 1% is almost 100% dudes, there are definitely waaay more women at the lowest socio-economic levels. Most poor people in this country are women. Income inequality is first and foremost a women’s issue.

          I’m glad they’re doing this, even if only to draw a line in the sand and bring attention to the issue. Will be interesting to see if the women get as much mindshare over there as the Drummers.

  11. HELENK says:
    October 22, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    obama movie will not be released until after the election.
    Seal Team 6 was supposed to be released during the election next year.

    Bummer Backtrack

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/10/22/hollywoods-obama-kicks-ass-film-pushed-back-to-after-2012-election/

  12. 1539days says:
    October 22, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    It can’t say anything good about Al Gore when his cable channel Current TV is showing “Primary Colors” tonight.

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