I don’t care if he’s batshit crazy


I’m voting for Ron Paul:

“If your spiritual life, which is a serious responsibility, and your intellectual life is a serious responsibility, why is it that if we assume you can have free decisions there, why shouldn’t you have free decisions on what you eat, drink, smoke and put into your own body?”


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22 Responses to I don’t care if he’s batshit crazy

  1. myiq2xu says:

    He’ll be going along, making sense, then suddenly . . . BATSHIT!

    • Dario says:

      I’ll take Paul’s batshit anytime because it’s so out there, that it will never be policy. Whereas his sane stuff just might. I normally wouldn’t, but since he’d be running against Obama, I’ll take Paul.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      It’s certainly true that Paul & Cain are the only candidates “thinking outside the box,” by which I mean they are offering solutions that the elite won’t propose or support. For that reason they are interesting to consider. I don’t always end up agreeing, but at least I know I gave marginalized ideas a fair hearing.

    • WMCB says:

      Paul is great til he goes too far. For instance, I like his non-interventionist foreign policy, but then he takes it to an isolationist “see no evil hear no evil” extreme that is naive IMO. Same thing with the economy and banking. He sees a lot of the problems clearly, and the non-accountable corruption inherent in the federal reserve….. then he goes off rambling about silver dimes and the gold standard. He also tolerates a fuckload of anti-semitism among his supporters, and never clarifies or calls it out, which bothers me, and makes me wonder about him.

      The thing about Paul, though, is he would indeed shake things up. It would be fun to see. 😀

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        I think sometimes we have our eyes so focused on the prize of winning that we overlook the importance of participation and shaping the dialogue. It’s a good thing Paul can run and it’s a good thing he can’t win, and in that way, the system is working. A certain level of intellectual checking is still occurring in the political sensibilities of our nation. But some of his saner discourse does have the opportunity to get heard and influence those who might go onto win.

        • WMCB says:

          Yes, good point. I like having a variety of voices abound in politics – from strong libertarian to socialist. I don’t want either extreme in total power, but I think their existence in the mix keeps the conversation more honest.

          And I also think it’s shameful the way the media has always marginalized Ron Paul. I don’t want him as president, and I don’t like many of his supporters, but he has a significant chunk of support nationwide and ought to be treated and covered as such. That’s FAIRNESS – it has nothing to do with whether you like or agree with him or not.

  2. votermom says:

    I think I’m voting for Iowa Hawk.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      Hear, hear! Love that guy. We need that kind of sense of humor in the White House. His serious ideas are often spot too.

    • WMCB says:

      His new platform is pretty decent. There’s a ton of things on it I could get behind. 😀

      One thing is to end pensions for federal elected officials ( not lifetime civil servant employees). Iowahawk says that elected office is supposed to be a citizen civic duty/honor, not a goddamned career. LOL! It makes sense. Why are we offering pensions as if encouraging the attitude that being a politician is a lifetime career choice???

  3. Melissa says:

    I think a lot of people are taking him seriously this time around. He’s polling around 10% if I recall correctly, so he’s not exactly a front runner, but he’s resonating with enough people to stay in the game.

    He’s getting up there age-wise, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him running as an independent or other third party candidate. Of course, that could ensure another Obama term, which would be bad, but maybe it’s what needs to happen if a third party is ever seen as a real possibility in this country. (Sorry for the disjointed response, I work on a help desk and get interrupted constantly)

  4. Honora says:

    Of course, Ron Paul does not believe that a pregnant woman should have the right to control her own body. I know, I know abortion is a tool used by the DNC to keep women on the plantation…..but there is no liberty of women if they are forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. That is my view and I am sticking with it.

  5. HELENK says:

    between Paul and Cain they are making the other candidates come up with plans and that is a good thing
    All of a sudden Romney and Perry are talking about economic plans.
    I do not care about their religion, I want to know just what they would do the fix the many problems of this country now

  6. DandyTiger says:

    Ron is sort of like the peace activists during WWII. Great idea, not always the best timing. Sometimes there are things you need to do in the world outside of your country, and you can’t just stick your head in a hole. Similarly you can’t be completely libertarian to the anarchy extreme because “free market” corrosions and fixes take time, and lots of people can die in the mean time. Regulation saves lives. And protecting the small from the big saves lives.

    But dammit I want to grow and smoke my pot in peace. Wait, did I say that out loud.

    • WMCB says:

      Maybe we need some combination Libertarian/Old School Episcopalians in office. 😀

      Ya know, that whole “mind your own business and all things in moderation” crowd. The govt should mind it’s own business and leave people alone (libertarianism), BUT govt is the most effective tool to regulate the worst abuses and periodic failures of the free market. So USE govt in moderation to take the rougher edges off. Sane regulation and safety nets. God save me from ideological purists on a mission of perfection, right or left. Moderation. Logic. Reasonable (and sometimes imperfect) safeguards, not seeking utopia of either brand.

  7. yttik says:

    I think Ron Paul is great, I just wouldn’t put him anywhere near power.

    One thing about him that strikes me as bizarre, he’s very libertarian about what you eat, drink, smoke, put in your body, but not when it comes to women’s reproductive rights. He is firmly against abortion. Get your laws off my body….except for women. Women apparently still need the state to monitor and regulate them so we don’t make any immoral choices.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      It’d be one thing if he just believed what he said. But he’s offered some very damning legislation in his tenure.

      • yttik says:

        I know and he just went and made an ad about it.

        I actually don’t care about people’s “beliefs” on abortion anymore, I’m more concerned about their respect for the limitations on a president’s executive authority. If you think becoming president gives you the right to force your believes on the entire country, you’re already off to a bad start.

  8. 1539days says:

    This will lose him some votes

    • yttik says:

      Yes, there he goes again! Completely setting aside the whole abortion issue, I’m more concerned about a candidate who thinks this is what he should focus on right now. It means he’s either pandering to one issue voters or he’s got skewed priorities. We’re dealing with unemployment, financial collapse, a couple of wars.

  9. DeniseVB says:

    Yes, I’ll vote for Bat Guano over Obama. 😀

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