Tinfoil Tuesday: OWS leading to mass violence or mass vileness?


Via a not-so anonymous hot tip, Tinfoil Tuesday has this Conspiracy Theory to dine on today:

Within the last 24 hours significant, credible information has been received by this reporter indicating that the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement may be a mere prelude to mass violence in the streets of the U.S. One source, a political operative with connections in both Parties who spoke on condition of anonymity, stated that he fears widespread civil unrest associated with the movement–unrest that could potentially lead to dire consequences regarding the 2012 Presidential election.

That sounds ominous. Tell us more!

Those fears are becoming increasingly common as shown by the number of persons calling into radio talk shows expressing their concern about the ‘Occupy’ movement and its potentially subversive aims. Rumors concerning the spread of violence and civil unrest prior to the 2012 Presidential election have been running rampant on social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook.

Um, people calling into AM talk shows about rumors on Twitter & Facebook — that’s your next paragraph? Seriously? 🙄

The rest of it is a merry mix of fact and suspicion and fear-mongering, certainly worth dissecting.

The thing is, the vagueness of OWS in stating its goals, and its lack of transparency in its leadership, in its self-regulation,  as well as the way so many of the protestors themselves seem determined to live up to the worst stereotypes of “The Left”  — all this is perfect for inviting The Right to project it’s worst fears on them.

If OWS does have the goal of  stoking The Right’s worst fears, it’s certainly doing a good job. If that is not their goal, they should do something about more clearly defining what they want and what methods they will and will not use to get them. Either clean up their act, get rid of the vile elements of sexism, anti-semtism, anarchy and violence, or expect more of the public to start listening the to what The Right is saying about them.

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50 Responses to Tinfoil Tuesday: OWS leading to mass violence or mass vileness?

  1. votermom says:

    Bringing this up from the last thread…

    OT:
    Someone emailed me a request for votes here for Richardson Park Elementary School, Wilmington DE. (Her sister teaches there)
    The school gets 10K if they win.
    You can also vote for a Middle School & a High School. It will ask for an email address.
    http://henkelhelps.com/vote-now.aspx

  2. myiq2xu says:

    Occupy Wall Street protesters are flocking to nearby health clinics for STD and HIV testing after getting their freak on in ’60s-style hookups with crusty strangers, sources told The Post yesterday.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/occupy_ball_street_aIoZXVqZ3hU8Zm9oX5aGWM#ixzz1cSlvioHL

    • votermom says:

      How unexpected./

      Edit.

      Volunteers at the medical tent hand out cash, usually $15 or $20, so the randy radicals can visit clinics that cater to a low-income clientele, the source said.

      Oh, that’s sick.
      Handing out prophylactics is one thing. Handing out cash so an OWSer can visit a clinic AFTER they tried to infect themselves is just encouraging unsafe and idiotic behavior.

  3. yttik says:

    I’m not so sure this is a conspiracy theory. The discussions I’ve been reading on OWS websites really do involve debates about the use of violence. Quite a few rational and sane people want peaceful protest, but there are numerous others trying to stir things up.

    As far as impacting the 2012 election, Brazille and half a dozen others have threatened over and over again that there will be violence in the street if Obama wasn’t elected the first time. It’s not the right projecting their fears, this is flat out coming from pundits on the left.

    I’m really hoping that the OWS protesters hold tight to their non violent intentions and don’t allow themselves to be co-opted. That’s going to be very difficult to do because there allegedly aren’t any leaders to lead them down a better path.

    • votermom says:

      Until they define themselves and their goals, they are wild cards. They could secretly be violent revolutionaries for all we, or they, know.

      • myiq2xu says:

        OWS is no danger to society.

        They are only a danger to women who attend their events.

        • yttik says:

          Well, I guess they’re also a danger to kids since somebody got busted trying to pimp out a teenager. Also, a deaf guy allegedly was just sexually assaulted.

          I’m not too worried about “society,” but if the OWSers do decide to go to war with the cops, quite a few people are going to get hurt.

    • WMCB says:

      It is also amusing that the hero was such a flash in the pan. Seems the media dropped him like a hot potato once some of his background and history started coming out.

      His flickr page is full of pot plants and keg stands and poses with liquor bottles. (not wrong per se, but there’s a LOT of that to the exclusion of “normal” pics.) He ran an “I hate the marines” website, evidently lost rank while in the corps, and was suspected of cocaine abuse while there.

      What, they don’t want to talk about Olsen anymore? I wish the man no ill, and am sorry he got hurt. But it’s still funny how the major media suddenly shut up about him and his service after trumpeting that a !!Marine!! got hurt.

    • votermom says:

      😆

      Turns out he was unresponsive because he was texting./

      • myiq2xu says:

        He’s “unable to speak” which explains why he can’t do interviews.

        Not one picture of him in the hospital has been released even though he gets visitors.

        • DeniseVB says:

          …..and we certainly know his visitors have camera phones 😉 To be fair, I don’t think you’re allowed to have your cell phone on in a hospital.

    • WMCB says:

      In all fairness, it is entirely possible that he was alert at the scene and unresponsive at the hospital. That’s how skull fractures and brain swelling works. It takes time for the brain to swell enough to impair function.

  4. votermom says:

    Not so OT, news like this is one of the many things that make the public suspicious of the wave of mass movements.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8861608/Libya-Al-Qaeda-flag-flown-above-Benghazi-courthouse.html
    Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse
    The black flag of Al Qaeda has been spotted flying over a public building in Libya, raising concerns that the country could lurch towards Muslim extremism.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      The handicapped are so often the target of sexual abuse. What’s outrageous is that this case wasn’t reported.

      That said, if they are reporting assaults and rapes and the police aren’t responding, that’s equally outrageous.

  5. WMCB says:

    Secrecy breeds suspicion. And there is a lot of secrecy around the Occubots and their movement-about-whatever. It’s the same with Obama’s college years, birth certificate, etc. When you hide shit, tinfoil theories (and perhaps some true ones mixed in) abound.

    I’m more interested in his records from his State Legislature days than in his birth certificate. They simply told the media: “There really aren’t any papers or calendars or documents or anything”, and the media said “okay”. Either he spent the entire time doing nothing (entirely possible), or he is lying and hiding something.

  6. Anthony says:

    OT -(sorry)

    Just heard Dorothy Rodham passed away.

    Condolences to Hillary…

  7. DeniseVB says:

    Conspiracy of the Week……from a Russian expert and what the US is headed for.

    http://rt.com/politics/panarin-usa-collapse-economy-905/

    The US might collapse into six pieces, according to a theory proposed by Russian political scientist Igor Panarin. And the current economic crisis in the country, amplified by mass protests, might be the beginning.

    According to the map, I’ll be living in the European Union.

  8. yttik says:

    ZOMG! Off topic, but apparently psychotic clown gangs are a real thing in the world. Or at least juvenile wannabee clown psychos. I am currently awaiting my helpful parent handout explaining how to tell if your child is in a psychotic clown posse.

  9. WMCB says:

    OT – So the Senate is voting on transportation funding. Paul Ryan had added an amendment to get rid of the 10% “beautification” mandate in the bill. His amendment did not change the total dollars – he just thought that the money was better spent on actual roads and bridges rather than on transportation museums, and landscaping and pretty signs. All nice things, but can we afford to spend 10% of our transportation dollars on them right now?

    The Senate just voted his amendment down 38-60. I mean, geez, how can we have a nice slush fund to funnel pork to our states to buy votes if we can’t set aside a mandated 10% of all transportation dollars for vague and convenient “beautification” projects?

    • yttik says:

      I live in a town that has spent lots of stimulus dollars on beautification projects. Unfortunately we nearly had to shut the town down to build all these planting strips. Now we have a really beautiful ghost town with an actual unemployment rate of somewhere around 28 percent.

  10. HELENK says:

    assault and theft at Baltimore ows.
    Happened Friday, reported to police on Monday

    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/11/city_police_investigating_assa.html

    • votermom says:

      No offense to Baltimore, but that city scares me. The last time we went (couple years ago) to visit the aquarium, someone broke the window of our car while it was parked in a pay lot. Geeze.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        Baltimore is terrible. I learned that much working the Amber Cole case. The police still haven’t arrested those boys, even though they know exactly who they are.

      • HELENK says:

        the city that I felt most uncomfortable in was Seattle. No matter where you went there were young people asking for money. It was like it was organized, the story was always the same I am looking for money to get home.
        I took one person to the train station and bought him a ticket to get home and since I worked for the railroad the ticket agent held the ticket until train time. The kid came back and tried to get them money for the ticket, but that was not happening. The ticket agent sent the money to me for the unused ticket.

  11. HELENK says:

    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31993

    this occupy thing is not working out for some people. they took over his tent.
    changes in people

  12. HELENK says:

    off topic

    backtrack is threatening to sing

    http://pacoenterprises.blogspot.com/

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