Finney, Neblett and the scary black love machine

MSNBC’s Karen Finney: Will GOP Rally Around Cain Despite Accuser Being White?

MSNBC commentator Karen Finney waded into the muddied waters of sexual politics and miscegenation on Monday’s Martin Bashir. “It’s going to be fascinating to see how this story unfolds over the next several days and particularly interesting to see how our friends on the right handle the accusations from these women in conjunction with how they handled Anita Hill.” “What do you mean, Karen?” Bashir pressed. “Look, I think it will be interesting to see if these guys rally around Herman Cain with as much voracity as they have these last couple of weeks now that it’s clear that a whole other layer of black sexuality has been infused into this,” Finney explained. “Also remember these women were ten years younger than we’re seeing them now. So that whole power dynamic. This is an older man, this younger women. White women, Black man.”

“It’s very jarring for the GOP, for anybody, I think, to see a black man be sexually aggressive in an unwanted way toward a blonde, white — especially a blonde, white woman,” added Touré. “One thing you have to keep in mind here is that this is not a real campaign. He is not really competing for the presidency! He’s competing for branding, television jobs, speaking jobs, book jobs. Just stay on the stage as long as possible, doesn’t matter how many arrows are in you, just stay on the stage, that’s all that matters for him.”

Just when you think they can’t sink any lower . . .

Here’s my opinion on Herman Cain and the sexual harassment allegations against him:

I don’t know and I don’t really care. The “facts” are virtually non-existent and pretty much irrelevant at this point. People who want to believe he is innocent will believe he is innocent. People who want to believe he’s guilty will believe he’s guilty. The rest of us will never be sure one way or the other.

I’m not planning on wasting any more time discussing it. Either his candidacy will survive or it won’t.

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55 Responses to Finney, Neblett and the scary black love machine

  1. votermom says:

    My opinion is that all candidates not surnamed Obama should expect to have their past dug into and skeletons (real or manufactured) unearthed.
    They should see it as an opportunity to show how they can defeat the msm smear machine.
    Cain is going through it right now and unfortunately he is not handling it well at all, imo.
    Defeating Obama means running against the msm. That’s the unfair reality.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Well, we now know more about Allred’s client than Barack Obama. Didn’t we see this coming?,0,4035523.story

      I think it was Huckabee who said Cain should have done a better job of vetting himself before he ran. Then you’re prepared for the skeletons in your closet. Of course, there’s always the chance that Cain’s been blindsided with trumped up allegations.

      Bill Clinton survived far worse, especially being frisky with Monica IN the Oval Office.

    • In this crazy climate, no candidate for president is going to survive the LSM who still are humping Obama’s leg. All male politicians need to keep their Obamas zipped in. If I were Cain, I would attack the media and their love affair with Obama. Someone has to hit this straight on, and it has to be a black man.

      • Susan says:

        Really? I wasn’t aware that the problem was that this was being reported on. I thought the problem was that Cain has been accused of sexually harassing three women and sexually assaulting another.

  2. yttik says:

    LOL at “scary black love machine.” That’s pretty funny.

    I think there is an element of racism in all this, as in Cain is being singled out and his detractors are trying to lead the country into the “scary black love machine” meme. Even if these allegations are true, he’s not guilty of a criminal offense. Like it or not, sexual harassment is a civil matter.

    What he is alleged to have done is like kindergarten compared to molesting congressional pages, visiting prostitutes and wearing diapers, having an affair while your wife is in chemo, or supporting a mistress with campaign funds. The media hysteria/outrage over the Cain allegations have a racist element to them. The Kennedy’s, Clinton, and numerous Republicans too, made a career out of exploiting women. I don’t like the status quo, I think we need to change the way we view women and stop treating them like sexual prey, but that’s our culture. Even if these allegations are true, Cain is guilty of what the vast majority of other male politicians are guilty of. What makes it feel kind of racist to me, is packaging it up like he’s a scary black sexual predator.

    • Karma says:

      it is interesting to see these ‘progressive’ talking heads attack Cain on the same racial lines they would flip out over if applied to Obama.

      At this point there are no allegations that rise to level of being credible so the only show is the MSM attacking him. While they pretend every candidate has been through the microscope there is that Obama-sized elephant floating in the back ground with every justification they spew.

      Still don’t know who I will protest vote for but Cain reveals the MSM hypocrisy better than any other candidate.

      • Susan says:

        There are four credible allegations. Shame on you for denigrating the women who have had the courage to complain about a powerful man behaving sexually inappropriately with them.

        That Cain Kool-Aid is powerful stuff.

        It’s no wonder women can’t get to the top.

    • Susan says:

      The race card, yttik? That’s the best you can do? Would you like a list of white politicians who’ve lost their political positions for acting out sexually or would that data disturb you?

      While lots of men are sexual harassers, I don’t believe that any of the other Republican candidates have been accused and I see no reason to even allow a sexual predator to participate in the process.

      Additionally, when Cain put his hand on the fourth accusers head and pulled it toward his penis, he committed an assault. That is a crime.

  3. votermom says:

    OT Malkin is watching the Holder testimony while tweeting. Much snark
    This retweet is my favorite.

  4. votermom says:

    OT: What do you think of Sarkozy & Obama trash-talking Netanyahu?
    It’s all over the news; here’s how ynetnews is reporting it:,7340,L-4145266,00.html

    Here’s what I find interesting:

    The surprising lack of coverage may be explained by a report alleging that journalists present at the event were requested to sign an agreement to keep mum on the embarrassing comments. A Reuters reporter was among the journalists present and can confirm the veracity of the comments.

    A member of the media confirmed Monday that “there were discussions between journalists and they agreed not to publish the comments due to the sensitivity of the issue.”

    • Karma says:

      I saw that too and was hoping our lovely Jadzia would tell us the French side of the story.

      Apparently, embarrassing Bush….I mean Obama isn’t cool anymore.

      Wonder how this will play out with the pro-Israel voters? It is a stunning lack of professionalism to be caught on mic slamming another world leader. But Bibi brings out the idiot in Obama….lol.

      • votermom says:

        Isn’t Jadzia just about due? I remember betting she’d have her baby today.

        • Jadzia says:

          OK, my husband HAS been watching the news here (more faithfully than I have), and he says that the French media (broadcast, at least) hasn’t covered it, but that it has been covered by Le Nouvelle Observateur (a more lefty paper–in other words, happy to run something that makes Sarkozy look kinda dumb). No real editorializing, just a translation (I think the original exchange was in English?) and an extreeeme closeup of S&O that makes Sarko look about a foot and a half tall.

        • Jadzia says:

          Le Nouvel Observateur, I mean. Clearly that French class didn’t make me much smarter.

        • Pips says:

          Shhh! Don’t you know it’s supposed to be the best kept French State Secret that Sarkozy is short?

        • myiq2xu says:

          He married well though.

  5. crawdad says:

    Touré Neblett sounds like a cheap frog wine.

  6. WMCB says:

    They’re simply setting up the narrative for either scenario. The Republican support for Cain falls off? Racists creeped out by the idea of a black man coming on to a black woman! Their support for him does not falter? Scum who support a serial lecher!

    The media is trying to set up a “heads we win, tails you lose” for both Cain and the Republicans. The primary voters are going to be racist whether they dump him or stick by him.

    • Susan says:

      Anyone who finds racism in this situation graduated from the Clarence Thomas school of “I’ll use it when it helps me but I’ll disparage any other black who claims that it impacted him or her.”

    • parentofed says:

      I also saw that the farmers markets were hurt because the occupiers had squatted in the market place.

  7. 1539days says:

    MSNBC keeps calling time of death while Cain’s out in front. On Morning Bore, they claimed that Romney finally broke 25% and made it all the way to 30%. Great. He’s been running for 4 years and 1/3 of half the voters are gung-ho for him.

    I think the story has now inverted. Every new accusation is less credible more shady on the part of the accuser. Someone suggested yesterday that Cain comes out and says that anyone can say anything and there is no proof, there will be no proof and if the media and Politico won’t offer proof, they have no journalistic integrity.

    He would be effectively waging war on the media. If he’s Gary Hart, it’s over. If he’s clean enough, every conservative will get behind him.

    • Susan says:

      I know that conservatives, like liberals, tend not to respect women but surely there are some conservatives who’ve not drunk the Cain Kool-Aid and who understand that when accusations of sexual harassment and assault pile up, it makes them more, not less credible.

  8. HELENK says:

    funny how all these stories come out and are all over the news just when we should be talking about

    fast and furious trying to gut the 2nd amendment

    solyandra and the other flim flams on green jobs

    general fired for telling the truth about Afghanistan

    Israel and Iran and the war drums start to beat

    the economy

    backtrack’s failures

    the failure of the msm to do their job and report facts

    smoke and mirrors,, hey look over there not here

  9. votermom says:

    Anyone following the Penn State Child Sex Abuse scandal?

  10. lurker says:

    OT: Wrote this for the “Where did the money go” thread. But posting here.
    Moderators, delete if needed.
    My THEORY is that it would have been better to let TBTF to fail.

    – people with upto 100k in the bank would be safe. (the majority).
    – the 1% would be impacted more. But they had the resources to make better choices.
    – bank would have had to liquidate at pennies on the dollar.
    – bank assets(loans/houses) would have gone to the gov.(FDIC) or to private investors
    – private investors/other banks who paid maybe 50% for an asset(house/loans) would be willing to negotiate with home owners/short sale
    – if gov owned it, they could adjust the principal/interest on the loan.
    – Not sure how home equity loans would have been handled(any experts here?)

    the drawbacks:
    – Home prices would have fallen. But,
    1. home owners(owner occupied): Can continue to stay in the home. Maybe principal write-down from the note holder.
    2. home owners(investors): All investments have risk. upto the investor to mitigate.
    3. home sellers: Impacted, but lessened by willingness from banks to accept short sale.
    4. home buyers: see more affordable options.

    – Economy would have ground to a halt. But,
    1. Really? the crops will still grow.
    2. prices/cost will fall. oil/food/etc.
    3. lead to the next set of entrepreneur(will not be from the current 1%)
    4. the current 1% would not be in the 1%
    – assuming most of their wealth is tied up in wallstreet
    – the smarter ones(those not on wallstreet) deserve to be in the 1%.
    – There will always be a 1% though. Just that it will be a new bunch.
    5. Private companies will come up with solutions. Not because they are asked, but to survive.
    eg: John Deere, during the last depression, allowed farmers to skip payments.
    JP Morgan in the 1907 panic:

    – Wall street would be decimated. But,
    1. Only Real Negtive: Pension funds will be impacted.
    2. No bonuses.
    3. They would have learnt a real lesson, and will not repeat the same mistake any time soon(with no need for more regulation).
    4. With no need for new regulations. No chance for the gov to pick winners/payback.
    5. With no money from wallstreet, congress may be more appreciative of small donors.
    6. Would have stopped large corps from growing bigger and give the little guy a chance
    eg: If bigbox store wants to open a store, they get money from Wallstreet.
    if no money on wallstreet, no store opening/costlier to open.
    local mom-and-pop store in existence will thrive(would have otherwise gone under).

    – High unemployment. But,
    1. Would this be the conditions for new set of entrepreneur/innovations/types of jobs?

    This is my THEORY, please discuss/shred this theory

    • DeniseVB says:

      Gotta stop crony capitalism and bailouts first. Nobody’s too big to fail. If your ideas don’t make Big Government donations, you’re sh*t outta luck. True story.

  11. DeniseVB says:

    OT: Because it’s closer to home. Wait, it is my home…..

    The OccuOrganizer is threatening civil disobedience and might camp anyhow. I thought this was a leaderless movement?

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  13. parentofed says:

    Interesting remarks by Niger Innis on FNC today. He’s a volunteer advisor to Cain and a friend, but said he wasn’t representing the Cain campaign today. He said there’s a sexual discrimination industry, just like there’s a race discrimination industry, a race-baiting industry.

    I thought those words were gutsy and revealing.

    • Susan says:

      Really, how does Mr. Innis know this? As a woman in the working world, I’m well aware that the activity of sexual harassment is alive and well and that almost no one reports it officially due to the possible negative consequences.

      If Mr. Innis is claiming that there is a pattern of false sexual harassment claims being filed, he’s going to have to make more than an allegation. He’s going to have to provide me with a list of names, dates and outcomes. Otherwise, he’s just blowing Kool-Aid flavored hot air for Herman Cain.

    • Susan says:

      Again, from where does he derive his expertise?

    • votermom says:

      Hmmm… sounds vaguely familiar … busy boy

      • Jadzia says:

        I would put my money on that not being the same Axelrod you’re thinking of–I don’t think Obama’s DA is a lawyer.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          According to Michelle Malkin, he’s not the same guy, but she doesn’t produce any evidence. She links to the Findlaw page of David Axelrod & Associates, but that doesn’t prove anything. David Axelrod does, in fact, have a company called David Axelrod & Associates, and while it’s a political consulting firm, it probably does employ lawyers and probably does a fair amount of casework like this for clients interested in the political fallout of such cases.

          I’ll need more proof before determining if it is or isn’t the same firm, but it IS located in Highland Park, and I doubt Axelrod would a allow another firm to just use the name in the same area, or vice versa. FTR, his firm started in 1985.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      Now that is interesting, but note that Axelrod was representing the people suing her. What’s most interesting about it is that the case ended in a quash write allowed, which means the case was dismissed (though the reason why is not included–could be a simple settlement), wait for it….48 days ago. September 22nd.

  14. HELENK says:

    live video of Cain’s address on sexual harassment cases

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