Another one bites the dust

Mike McQueary

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Report: Mike McQueary in protective custody, won’t coach again

According to, one of the PSU coaches gathered several players in a room on campus and allowed McQueary to speak to the team via speaker phone.

McQueary reportedly told the team, “I wanted to let you guys know I’m not your coach anymore. I’m done.”

McQueary also told the team he’s not at the University, but in protective custody after receiving several threats … and “double fisting” booze.

At the bottom of the lower-archy of scumbags are those who murder children. A few levels above that are those who physically and/or sexually abuse kids. Slightly less worse than those who harm children are those scumbags who enable the abusers. Slightly less scummy than enablers are those who allow the abuse.

Each of the latter three scumbag categories is present in the shameful and disgusting events that took place at Penn State.

Children cannot protect themselves. As adults we have a moral duty to intervene to protect all children. As Hillary Clinton said, “It takes a village.”

The adults at Penn State failed in this moral duty. A few firings and prosecutions are not sufficient. The university should announce it is forfeiting the rest of this season and terminating its football program. It should consider terminating its entire athletic department.

Some would say that is too extreme, that such a course of action would punish the student athletes.

Nothing less will purge the stain upon the school’s honor. After watching the students’ reaction to the firing of Joe Paterno it is obvious that they really need to learn that lesson.

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36 Responses to Another one bites the dust

  1. DeniseVB says:

    Penn needs to be banned from the NCAA for about 10 years. Nobody’s above the law.

  2. Lola-at-Large says:

    He needed to go. And now he needs to tell his whole story to the public is he is to have any hope of redeeming himself.

    • crawdad says:

      That’s not really the kind of thing you can redeem yourself from.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        I’m of the mind that it depends on his story. I’ve been in situations where people far more powerful than I were threatening my job and even my life over trying to get the truth out there and that is some fucked ground to be inhabiting. I have an Irish will, so it didn’t stop me, but…wait, nevermind. The red-head is named McQueary. He shoulda had an Irish will too. You’re right. My bad.

  3. crawdad says:

    A culture that says football is more important than protecting children is really sick.

  4. crawdad says:

    Where does this fall on the scumbag scale?

  5. Red Dragon says:

    At the bottom of the lower-archy of scumbags are those who murder children. A few levels above that are those who physically and/or sexually abuse kids. Slightly less worse than those who harm children are those scumbags who enable the abusers. Slightly less scummy than enablers are those who allow the abuse.

    Each of the latter three scumbag categories is present in the shameful and disgusting events that took place at Penn State.

    I agree Myiq. There is nothing as despicable than someone who abuses a child…PERIOD!

    There is no amount of punishment that can dealt to those that do although I for one would love to be the one that would volunteer to find ways to administer said punishment!

  6. lisadawn82 says:

    Why should students who had nothing to do with this scandel be penalized. Most of these players were in grade school or middle school when Sandusky raped that young boy at Penn State. Why should they be punished for what their superiors did or failed to do?

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      There are other schools besides Penn State. And it wasn’t “that young boy,” it as “THOSE young boyS.” 8 so far, and more coming out of the woodworks today, according to reports. The school has to pay for the cover-up, and if that puts the institution at odds with what students need, so be it. The country is filled with other schools.

      • lisadawn82 says:

        You are still penalizing the students for what the adults didn’t do.

        • myiq2xu says:

          If Paterno and the other coaches were involved in point-shaving the NCAA would make Penn State forfeit all their games (including the ones already played) and would suspend them for at least a year.

          Raping children is worse than point-shaving.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          The NCAA may yet take action on it. I hope they do. Fuck the students. Go somewhere else. A degree from Penn State will be a black mark against you anyway if it shows you were there in 2011, when the sorry students rioted to save Joe’s ass. I certainly wouldn’t hire them.

        • 1539days says:

          This gets into the question of whether you want to prevent this from happening again or punish a guilty party. A mutli-season ban is one of the fears that made both college administration and local law enforcement try to cover up the abuse in the first place. The next college that sees this is going to try just as hard to cover up and this won’t end.

          Certainly the NCAA should demand the firing of anyone who had any knowledge of these crimes as a condition of reinstatement. If the problem is with the power of football in higher education, going after Penn State alone won’t fix it.

        • myiq2xu says:

          I’m not talking about how they should be punished by the NCAA

          I’m talking about what the college trustees should do.

  7. soupcity says:

    I can’t imagine myself or anyone looking past the abuse in the shower.
    McQueary apparently ignored any impulse he had to save that poor kid, decided to save Penn State instead. No sympathy for him. I tried to get through the Grand Jury Report and it was horrific, Sandusky was afforded every last perv’s wish and enabled every step of the way.

    • murphy says:

      the article I read yesterday about McQueary tried to have it both ways. The reporter made clear that McQueary told grand jurors that he in fact allowed a man raping a child to continue raping the child, but at the same time had an elegiac tone of wistfulness about the possible demise of the redhead’s dream to one day follow in JoePa’s footsteps and become head coach.

      It was surreal.

      Cancel football for five years and fire the entire football administration. Honor the scholarships to the current athletes and impose ethics classes for the entire athletic department.

      • 1539days says:

        To me, football didn’t molest those kids, football covered it up. Either Penn State (and the state of Pennsylvania) takes football too seriously or every college takes it too seriously. I think prevention may be a better outcome. Every school bus driver gets a background check these days. NCAA coaching staff should do the same.

        This is different than other college sports scandals because no players have been proven to be complicit. Paying off scholarships is an idea, but those students would never have a shot at the NFL and they wouldn’t be able to play football. The college could suspend the program, but it’s the college that let this abuse go on. For that matter, they might as well shut down the school as well.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Paying off scholarships is an idea, but those students would never have a shot at the NFL and they wouldn’t be able to play football.

          Even the best football programs only send a few students to the NFL each year.

          The kids who used football to get an education would still get that education. The others could transfer elsewhere.

        • DeniseVB says:

          The players could transfer to another school if their goal is the NFL ?

          I dunno, even if I was an English major, I’d probably want to transfer just to lose the PSU diploma, especially after the student riots.

        • myiq2xu says:

          PSU diploma

          Pedophile State University

        • 1539days says:

          Stuff like that is almost as bad as the being “sanduskied” comments by students at the college. Not all priests are child molesters, not all Postal Workers are snipers and most of the staff at the college are not pedophiles or enablers.

          The only reason Penn State even has this black mark is because it is daily media fodder. Kids are raped all the time. There’s a story every few weeks where I live. If an economics professor did this and the whole department knew, no one would care. It would be just another line on the police report.

        • murphy says:

          Those are really interesting points 1539; I want to think about them. Thanks.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Kids are raped all the time

          I am shocked and disturbed by your callousness. Rape and murder happen all the time, but that doesn’t make them okay.

          At Penn State it isn’t just that a child was raped, it is that CHILDREN were raped because the people in charge knew and did nothing to stop it.

        • 1539days says:

          Callous or not, it’s a true statement. Sandusky was ground zero for this tragedy. so far, he’s the only one who raped children. There are too many others who either had first hand knowledge or some awareness of what was going on and didn’t do enough. Let’s not forget, that people in the justice system also kept charges from going forward.

          My point is that Penn State as an institution is getting far more attention for this than the criminals abusing children right now in this country with near impunity. It is not Pedophile State University, just as it’s not the state of Pennsylpedia. Ironically, I hate football, so maybe I’m not as disappointed.I’d rather see some people arrested or jailed before I worry about financial retribution.

        • DandyTiger says:

          What happened at PSU is evil. I don’t give a flying fuck about what other organizations have or have not done, or what the media focuses on or not, the hammer should come down on the institution in an appropriate way because of this. Period.

  8. murphy says:

    It’s true that not all priests are pedophiles of course, you’re right. But the massive crime coverup that went on for decades in the cath church made the crime much bigger than hundreds of individual molestors and rapists abusing children. It very quickly became an INSTITUTIONAL crime, and was revealed as institutional cancer. When the institution itself is culpable and criminal then the institution must bear the consequences and even punishment. Sadly, that includes EVERYONE associated with the institution.

    If the crime is not acknowledged by the whole institution as a systemic problem in which every member, yes including students and athletes, must make amends and address the new reality of major crimes being covered up in their name, then there will be no real recovery.

    Were any of us individually responsible for the crimes at Abu Ghraib? Of course not, but many of us felt ashamed as Americans by our president who was acting on our behalf in Iraq. So many that Bush left office with one of the lowest approval ratings of a president ever.

    Either I think fast, or I talk to soon before thinking enough — either way you bring up the heart of the matter I think 1539days.

  9. murphy says:

    Re: Pedophile State University. That right there is one of the most tragic of the indirect consequences of institutional crimes. Doing the wrong thing as an institution means that GOOD PEOPLE suffer and innocent people are damaged by the ruin of the institution’s reputation. That the alumnae community of Penn State and the current students and faculty now have a cloud or a black mark on their records is ENTIRELY the fault of JoePa, McQueary, the DA, the univ president, and the entire athletic dept that covered up for a child rapist. That’s their biggest crime. And it;s a big one.

    (Of course the most tragic DIRECT consequence is that children were raped and nobody helped them).

    ok, going back to housecleaning. 😉

  10. foxyladi14 says:

    Raping children is worse than point-shaving.

    • murphy says:

      Agreed. And it’s cast a pall on all college football in my opinion. My daughter was sharing excitement about final uva game today and I was like, ugh.

      I know it’s not fair and vast majority of people involved with college sports aren’t violent rapists, but this Penn State thing will have far reaching, long term effects.

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