Zuccotti Live-Blog III

The park is clean but empty, the protesters are roaming the streets hoping they will be able to re-enter. A court hearing is taking place this afternoon to decide if they can or not and under what conditions if they can.

Annoying Live Stream here.

Guardian Live Update here.


Rule of law – 1

Occupiers – 0

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104 Responses to Zuccotti Live-Blog III

  1. HELENK says:

    pictures and captions from I own the world

    great pictures, funny captions


  2. myiq2xu says:


    And may I remind everyone that myiq is a faithful She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named disciple.
    So, what we have here is a whip kisser who admires a Tea Party leader who likes to “target” Democratic congresspeople she and her gun totin’ followers don’t like. She has no problem hanging out with Glenn Beck like they’re BFFs.
    Now, he is militantly anti protest, even though he is well aware of the tactics that right wing groups will take to discredit the occupiers.
    What does Myiq have against poor and unemployed middle class people protesting the inequity of the system caused by the rich?
    One point is just a data point. Two points are a trend. Three is a correlation.
    I have to wonder who Myiq is working with.

    Face it, myiq, this movement is bigger and more resonant with the public than the astroturf Tea Party ever was. There are more people who show up to an OWS march whenever the occupiers call for it than the super organized and corralled Tea Partiers ever could.

    You’ve lost.

    • Anthony says:

      Well, DAYUM!!!

      Somebody needs a nap……

    • Really? How many showed up for the Tea Party event in DC? The one where they did not pitch tents, got permits and cleaned up their own trash?

    • HELENK says:

      can someone answer these questions
      when did people lose these rights

      to sleep in their own homes or apts without drums and being surrounded by violence

      to walk on the sidewalk with stepping in human waste

      to run a legal business without harassment

      to go to work in peace

      to not have to worry that if a crime is committed in another part of the city that the police will be too busy due to the owies to respond in a timely manor

      what has the tea party to do with it. They protested legally, cleaned up after themselves and left in a timely manor, and had a clear message.

      Two entirely different protests

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        The Tea Party does have something to do with it. The left’s reaction to it is the primary reason their movement hasn’t gained more traction outside of the left.

        They trained America to think that one bad TP egg fried the whole movement, and now they are offended when people use a dozen bad OWS eggs to fry their movement. Rev. Wright had a saying…the chickens are coming home to roost. Ha!

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          Well, to be fair, if you go posting comments over there, you deserve what you get. She thrives on fighting, but ignoring her drives her batshit crazy. I prefer the latter. My 2 cents.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      She’s been waiting for days to post that, I’m sure, just biding her time to come out and try to pick another fight.

      Impotence; it’s not just for the menz anymore.

    • votermom says:

      I have to wonder who Myiq is working with.

      Myiq, I think you’ve been tinfoiled. LOLOLOL.

    • timothy2010 says:

      Took a trip over there and am highly amused by her rants re you.
      Enjoyed her site in 08 but she lost me soon after.

    • yttik says:

      “You’ve lost.”

      Really? What has been “lost”? What have they “won”? When I look around all I see is the whole country losing because of the ridiculous policies coming from this administration.

    • HELENK says:

      if you did that Hawaian streak , maybe she would feel better

    • catarina says:

      “blogs we like?”

      hmmm…time for a new category?

    • DandyTiger says:

      You don’t think she knows, you know, who’s paying us myiq?

      • DandyTiger says:

        My favorite bit:

        What does Myiq have against poor and unemployed middle class people protesting the inequity of the system caused by the rich?

        OWS has nothing to do with the poor and unemployed middle class people, so whether myiq is for or against them is irrelevant.

        If you wanted to help the poor or the unemployed you wouldn’t protest wall street. You’d protest DC politics and policies. And WTF does camping have to do with anything. And a whole infrastructure designed to keep any coherent message from being constructed. And a policy to pretend not to favor any particular policies or politicians, while only protesting the party out of power. And why protest wall street when you have the very best representative and symbol of everything that is wrong with the current policies and approach, the wall street president. And WTF is with the cult, obvious programming technique, of the human mic crap. Etc., etc., etc.

        If it looks like a cult, and smells like a cult, and acts like a cult. Guess what. You’re a cult. Evidenced by the reactions of the cult members to simple questions and some fun making of their stupidity. QED

    • 1539days says:

      Three points is a correlation? RD must be the worst scientist ever.

  3. Lola-at-Large says:

    Just now getting caught up, but I have been following along via my phone since about 8:00 this morning. Had orientation.

    All I can say about what’s gone down is: WOW!


    I can’t believe how many people are just reptilian-ly stupid about our Constitution. It means whatever they want it to mean, apparently. WTF?

    • They probably got that idea from Dear Reader- who thinks the Constitution is old and outdated.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        I think the Constitution is old and outdated, too. I’d like to re-write it. But I’d like to include the consensus of most of America before doing so, and I don’t want a party or ideological group in charge of the process. We need a way to incorporate more direct democracy and change the layout in Washington. My best idea is Congress-by-jury-pool.

  4. myiq2xu says:


    The supreme court hearing has now finished, and the judge has promised a ruling at 3pm.

  5. HELENK says:

    owies in Santa Cruz – ringworm

    owies in Monterey – high end camp grounds

  6. HELENK says:


    o all pols who voiced support for #OWS, enjoy your new albatross. Your violent, chanting, shit-crusted rapist albatross.

  7. Lola-at-Large says:

    Frank Miller weighed in last week. Missed it at the time: http://frankmillerink.com/2011/11/anarchy

  8. HELENK says:

    owies plan for tomorrow.
    seems like it restricts the right of others


  9. myiq2xu says:

    There should be a decision on the TRO any time now

  10. yttik says:

    Some people were accusing the cops of brutality and claiming there was no excuse for raiding the camp in the wee hours of the morning. Just for the record, there is a reason for this. You try to catch people off guard so as to avoid violent confrontations. When you have a hysterical mob salivating for a confrontation, you diffuse the situation by giving them time to calm down. This is for the safety of the officers, but also for the safety of the protesters.

  11. Escoffier says:

    Frank “Miller, best-known for Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, 300, and Sin City, introduces his post with the words: “Everybody’s been too damned polite about this nonsense” before launching into his tirade.

    He writes: “Occupy” is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the “movement” – HAH! Some “movement”, except if the word “bowel” is attached – is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves” it reads.”

    “One site Comicbookmovie.com, has published an open letter to Miller, which ends “From what I can tell based on conversations with fellow comic book fans, articles, comments, box office returns, and critical reception of your work in the last 10 years, I am in the majority of folks who want you to just go away now. We are the The Goddamn 99% of people who don’t give a goddamn about you anymore.” http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/nov/14/frank-miller-occupy-movement-rant

    They really do not want to be told they are idiots. Comic books fans are angry with the person who does the hard work to entertain them. Are they able to comprehend anything?

  12. Lola-at-Large says:

    Just got a text from OWS that the judge ruled in their favor. They are calling for an immediate occupation and attendees to come help before the city rules.

  13. votermom says:

    The judge has ruled that the tents can go back.
    never mind, false alarm

    Do the business owners affected have any recourse if the campers are let back in? Can they sue?

  14. myiq2xu says:

    I gotta feeling the City won but the judge is holding the order to let them get ready for the reaction.

    • yttik says:

      Isn’t Zucotti a private park? I was thinking the judge was going to rule that the property managers had to go through a formal eviction process.

      • Mary says:

        The Bloomberg action WAS from a formal complaint from the property owners.

        Oh—and the ACLU judge has been removed from the decision-making process. Different judge chosen randomly.

    • DandyTiger says:

      How can that be, I thought OWS won? At least according to some.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      I just got another text telling people to bring their tents, sleeping bags, and signs to Liberty Plaza.

      Not saying it’s true, but that’s what they are telling their followers. The GlobRev feed shows still waiting.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        They also just reported the ruling in their favor on the Facebook page. Again, take that for what it’s worth.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          They are apparently trying to bring people in, but it’s a cynical way to do it, to lie to them. GlobRev feed STILL shows waiting, and no one but police in the park.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          And just got a text confirming ruling is unconfirmed.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Excellent. Well, it’s a start. I guess the daylight on that travesty was even too much for those cronies. Too bad OWS don’t protest those mentioned, since many are Dems. It wouldn’t be good for Obama.

      • Lulu says:

        But how is Mr. Pelosi going to make a living? If he doesn’t have inside information and a wife controlling which legislation is moved upon to guarantee profitability of his stock trades how can he make money? They already took the plane away and now this.

    • votermom says:

      Good for Brown & Gillibrand!

  15. HELENK says:

    I count 75 NYPD officers currently in Zuccotti, essentially surrounded by 1,000 people who want in. #OWS

  16. Lulu says:

    Embattled Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, speaking in an interview with the BBC (excerpted on The Takeaway radio program–audio of Quan starts at the 5:30 mark), casually mentioned that she was on a conference call with leaders of 18 US cities shortly before a wave of raids broke up Occupy Wall Street encampments across the country. “I was recently on a conference call with 18 cities across the country who had the same situation. . . .”http://capitoilette.com/2011/11/15/oakland-mayor-jean-quan-admits-cities-coordinated-crackdown-on-occupy-movement/

    The polling turned as OWS became nuttier so they had to shut them down or take a polling hit. I knew it. I wonder if they are smart enough to understand they got sold out.

    • DandyTiger says:

      But, but, but, we’ve lost. At least that’s what some blogs are telling us.

        • Lulu says:

          She only seems to say “who had the same situation”. Then talks about some wanting to separate from anarchists. Who knows? Best guess are those looking at the end of their careers.

      • Lulu says:

        When you have 18 mayors being coordinated to shut you down out of the WH or DNC (I know same difference) because you are hurting the cause and are a nuisance, you have not won. And if an idiot like Quan is spilling the beans on BBC you are doubly f’ed.

    • Mary says:

      RD’s claiming those mayors may be cooperating with the Dept of Homeland Security.

      She’s practically salivating over the possibility.

      Good grief.

      • crawdad says:

        If she’s right that proves . . . what?

      • Mary says:

        Ok….had to come back and clarify the DHS rumor:

        Apparently (reading other sources), that info comes from a Michael Moore tweet on the OWS site. He’s suspicious that Obama was out of the country when this happened, and the coordination “suggests” DHS involvement.

        Michael Moore. That’s where the rumor started. Sheesh

  17. Mary says:

    Just reported: Judge rules for the City of New York. OWS loses.

    Well well well

  18. Lulu says:

    Well let’s see if they can figure out they have just been used for diversion and when they became inconvenient they were dumped. The leaderless “leaders” will head back to SEIU and Obama for America offices their work done. I earned by beat up old cynic credentials honestly (mostly).

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  21. HELENK says:

    over at http://www.breakingnews.com
    they have a copy of the judges order. I am electronically challenged as my grand daughter tells me and can not get it over to here

    When you click on the thingy it downloads does not copy

  22. myiq2xu says:

    I’ve had about 2 hours sleep since Operation Cleansing began.

    Imma gonna take a nap.

    I’ll be back later to post about the decision and what it means.

  23. glennmcgahee says:

    I go over ow and then to the Con. but its amazing how self-centered I find the writing there. Reminds me so much of our Pres. I’ll never forget the hatred spewed there against her own mother for having an opinion that differed from hers. Its kinda an indication of an impending breakdown I think. It was only a year ago that we were being told about the basement remodeling for weeks and weeks. Thats when I left. I missed the original shebang when everybody split. I’m stickin here, I feel better with the losers anyway.

  24. glennmcgahee says:

    over not ow

  25. Lulu says:

    The committed OWSers on the usual supportive blogs seem to be having some cognitive dissonance regarding the executive branch of the federal government coordinating the shutdown of the occupy camps. They are saying it is all dirty rumors from conservative news sources (even when presented with Mayor Quan’s blabbermouth interview on BBC) and not true. They seem to really have believed that this was what the WH wanted them to do (DK), to the fantasy that they had Homeland Security spooked. Their belief that the WH was actually going to allow them to disrupt Obama’s biggest contributors on Wall St is beyond naive.

    • Mary says:

      Yeah, well. they’re lying about conservative news sources, as usual.

      Michael Moore tweeted the DHS rumor on the OWS site, and it went from there.

      But you’re right about their naivete. Big time.

  26. Lulu says:

    Going to have some pretty bad numbers for Occupy Wall Street tomorrow…movement not wearing well with voters
    1 hour ago via Mobile Web https://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/statuses/136589473319358464

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