Money isn’t everything


Molly Ball:

It’s important to remember, as Democrats cope with their failure to topple Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in Tuesday’s recall, that this was a fight they chose.

Unlike the vast majority of elections, which occur on a regular schedule, the recall was a fight the left picked on purpose. They picked it because they thought they could win. And they were wrong.


If you are following events in Cheeseheadland, you know that the official verdict by our betters in the intelligentsia is that money made the difference. Those big bad Koch Brothers stole our democracy with their filthy lucre.

The basic theory goes like this:

A. People are stupid.

B. With enough money you can convince them of anything.

C. The 1% have more than enough money.


Money is important in politics. It can provide a big advantage. But it can’t do everything. If it could, the 1% would only give money to one party.

Every one of us gets bombarded with advertising on a daily basis. You have to get pretty far from civilization to find a place where you don’t get exposed. It is on television, radio, the internet, in papers and magazines, on billboards and the sides of buses.

Some of it is political. Most of it is not. One of the most common products we see advertised is beer. But beer ads don’t make you drink, and if you do drink they don’t determine which brand you buy.

Advertising works best on new products. If you know nothing about a product the only source of information you have might be the ads. But once you try the product you form your own opinion of it. No matter how many ads you see, if a beer tastes like shit you won’t drink it.

The same thing applies to candidates.

Scott Walker was elected in a close race in November 2010. Since then there have been numerous protests, lawsuits, recalls and news stories involving Walker. If I am hearing so much about it out here in California, imagine what the citizens of Wisconsin have been dealing with.

Additionally, consider this – have you heard any allegations that Walker ran a deceptive campaign? Is it an unfair advantage if you spend more money but tell voters the truth?


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99 Responses to Money isn’t everything

  1. Oswald says:

    Don’t forget: Obama spent more money, but Hillary got more votes.

  2. votermom says:

    Walker appears to that rare pol who actually delivers on his campaign promises; even if one disagrees with his policies, it’s hard not to respect that.

  3. Oswald says:

    Here they go, playing gotcha!

    • DeniseVB says:

      I hope this means Obama loses Newark! Looks like they replaced him with a BO bootlicker. Sigh, NBC, sigh.

      • votermom says:

        Dems losing Newark? Too good to be true.

        Booker is funny. Would love to see him as VP in 2016.

    • insanelysane says:

      Wow, it’s getting hard to be a spokesperson for O. One step out of line and under the bus you go…or worse!

      Heh, like getting promoted to be the #2 Al Qaeda guy.

      I think Mr Colbert did a ditty on that.
      Where did I see that?

  4. WMCB says:

    I’ll listen to the whining about money in politics when they start having a problem with ALL the money, not just what the R’s bring in.

    More money can buy a bigger megaphone re: ads, etc. But it doesn’t drown out other forms of speech – such as grassroots organizing and people talking to their neighbors, or blogging, whatever.

    They are also looking at ONLY campaign funds, and are discounting the massive amounts of money spent for a solid year on mounting the recall and demonizing Walker non-stop, before they even had a D candiidate. The D money clock did not start ticking the day Barret was nominated. That’s utterly dishonest. It started LONG before that.

    • votermom says:

      I’ve seen a bunch of tweets pointing out that while the left whines about money, Obama is attending 5 fundraisers today.

      • WMCB says:

        Some reports calculate the total union spending for the whole recall effort (not just the relatively short barrett campaign) at as much as 60 million.

        This “Waaa waaaa, we were outspent by dirty Koch money!!” is utter bullshit.

        • cj says:

          Subtle they are not, lol. Their spins & lies are so ham-handed lately nobody takes them seriously anymore. I mean when every single spokesperson on every single show sings exactly the same song, in exactly the same key, you just have to laugh.

          That’s the problem when you have to run on gimmicks. The GOP doesn’t have that problem, that’s why they sound so much more authentic this year. Whether you like their policies or not, they actually believe in what they’re saying.

  5. i must be a raycist- because for the life of me I can not figure it out. Seems to me I heard once upon a time that the O campaign was trying to take ALL the D donation money to dole out to whom they chose. Also recall he was wanting to raise a billion dollars this election. I distinctly remember that in 08 his campaign disabled the function on the online donation thingamajig that checked to be sure donations were only from Americans.
    And Oblowme taking money from hither and yon by the freighter load is different HOW?

  6. votermom says:

    LOL

  7. myiq2xu says:

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/only-one-takeaway-from-wisconsin-money-shouts-125417.html

    I don’t remember anyone saying that when Obama was outspending Hillary and McCain. Back then all that money was proof of what a popular guy he was.

  8. WMCB says:

    There’s a new hashtag, #ThisIsTheEndOfDemocracy. Go have fun. 😀

  9. indigogrrl1 says:

    On a bright note these election results show us Obamanation hasn’t perfected completely rigging elections …… yet.

    • OldCoastie says:

      Apparently it is rigged in California. I voted for an official write in candidate on my ballot and yet, Obama in my county (and across the state) has 100% of the vote.

      Scratching my head here.

      • Erica says:

        Coastie, how do you check that? I voted for Richardson and would like to see the numbers. It may be that less than one percent doesn’t show up.

        • OldCoastie says:

          I checked the CA Sec of State website, then I checked my county’s registrar of voters results website… I’ll be danged if they both don’t show “Obama 100%”

        • Erica says:

          I just sent an email to the Secretary of State asking why my vote for a declared Dem write in candidate was not properly recorded. Will keep you posted.

        • insanelysane says:

          Same here, I wrote in Richardson. Even if under 1% doesn’t get reported Obama did NOT get 100% …no mater how you do the math.
          I guess that is democratic truthiness in numbers.

        • insanelysane says:

          my spelleng is rong

        • OldCoastie says:

          I also voted for Richardson… I figured since he was also a Dem, I wasn’t taking a chance for any excuses and I wanted it specifically to take it to the Dems at the convention – they don’t seem to be seating any delegates except for Barry’s and I wanted to be absolutely SURE it counted this time.

          (I am still a registered Democratic, much to my chagrin)

        • Erica says:

          I voted for Richardson, too, in Contra Costa. I am bothered by this and will let you know when I get a response.

        • Erica says:

          And I get your point about the percentages. I thought less than one percent just might not register on their webpages, but then I clicked onto a page that listed the exact number of votes collected versus votes for Obama, and they were the same. Well, that means they didn’t count my vote (shocking…oh, yeah, shades of 2008, duh). So I sent an email to the SOS with the subject line: Does my vote count?

        • OldCoastie says:

          yes, Erica – keep us posted… if this little sample of us voted Richardson (I’m in Orange County), it should show up somewhere . I was really careful to spell the name correctly and all that.

        • Karma says:

          I did the same thing yesterday morning, checked the SoS site, various news sites, and then went to county results. Even Orange County, a Rep county, which had a great run down of local stats. Nothing.

          http://www.ocvote.com/fileadmin/live/pri2012/results.htm#r-1

          It reminded me of that attempt last year of some segment of CA Dems to primary Obama and being blocked by the state’s Dem party. And wondering if there was anything in that story which pointed to this (linked below), but it seems like the fix was probably in as a result of the 2010 mid-term thumping or just the fact that Obama hasn’t won a race without some type of a**-dragging across the finish line/help.

          http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/08/04-0

        • Erica says:

          Just got a message that write in ballots have to be separately certified. So I’ve asked them when they expect that process to be completed, and I will stay on this until I see my vote accounted for on their website.

  10. HELENK says:

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/against-the-grain/race-to-replace-giffords-provides-the-next-bellwether-20120606

    the next bellwether to watch is the special election next week in Arizona, for Gabby Giffords seat.

    also
    people are talking about the vote in San Jose Ca and San Diego Ca to cut the pensions of state workers.
    Two days ago I read that the city of North Las Vegas NV used an emergency power to curtain the bargaining ot the public unions.

    This trend started because of Scott Walker’s policies that worked , It will continue to grow across the country. The cities and states are in dire straits now and have to cut spending

  11. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/06/too-funny-afl-cio-chief-tries-to-claim-they-werent-part-of-walker-recall-effort/

    CIO chief on Wisconsin loss

    We were not there
    We did not help the unions jump off that cliff
    It had to be someone who looked like us

  12. Lola-at-Large says:

    Walter Russell Mead is again the standout on this case:

    The left’s problem in Wisconsin wasn’t that the right had too much money. The left’s problem is that the left’s agenda didn’t have enough support from the public. Poll after poll after poll showed that the public didn’t share the left’s estimation of the Walker reforms.

    The left lost this election because it failed to persuade the people that its analysis was correct. The people weren’t a herd of sheep dazzled by big money campaign ads on TV; the Wisconsin electorate chewed over the issues at leisure, debated them extensively, considered both points of view — and then handed the left a humiliating, stinging and strategic defeat.

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/06/06/the-people-united-go-down-in-flames/

  13. yttik says:

    Arrgg, somebody managed to shut down my internet and email. Guess I pissed somebody off. Good.

  14. WMCB says:

    “@hipstervative: President of Estonioa @IlvesToomas is crush Paul Krugman on Twitter right now. Must see tweeting. #tcot”

    Go read the feed. It’s fucking hilarious. This guy is ripping Krugman to shreds. Backstory: Estonia was worse off than Greece or Spain, but their president embarked on genuine austerity – cut the pay of ALL govt employees, reigned in pensions, superfluous programs, etc. Their economy is now growing like gangbusters, attracting big investors, etc.

  15. votermom says:

    • DeniseVB says:

      Wow, the PDS lives! This name jumped out at me:

      Wasn’t she the one who filed all those frivilous lawsuits to bankrupt the Palin family ?

  16. yttik says:

    I’ve been listening to the media so I need a reality check. “Walker wins “close” recall election?”

    WTH? 11% is not “close.”

  17. DeniseVB says:

    Wonder what triggered the TCH moderation gulag ? 😀 I have a post stuck in the pool filter !!

  18. myiq2xu says:

    Hot Air:

    There’s no one in American political life who’s more fun to write about than Clinton for the simple reason that it’s impossible to give him the benefit of the doubt on anything. He’s famously highly intelligent, famously devious, and, per his mastery of “triangulation,” famously willing to cross other Democrats to protect his own interests. When in doubt, you always, always assume he’s working an angle. What’s his angle here? Is it as simple as protecting his own legacy as the only Democrat in modern times to be reelected? Or, as I think many righties believe, are we seeing “Operation: Elect Hillary” in effect? If the latter, how would an Obama loss advance Hillary’s chances in 2016? Granted, it’s unusual for Americans to grant one party 12 years in the White House, but if Romney wins in November and the economy comes roaring back, it’ll be next to impossible to defeat him as an incumbent in four years. What’s Slick’s game? Remember, no theory is too nefarious.

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      How quaint. He assumes Romney will bring the economy roaring back to life. That’s where we differ. Romney will deliver the austerity we need to eventually rebound, but it will be a tough row to hoe to get there. Iceland didn’t recover overnight and neither will we. Look at Estonia, on the uptick, but not to the pre-crisis levels. That should make 2016 easy pickings for Hillary, who can then preside over the full recovery. So yes, this is operation Elect Hillary, but Ed’s in denial.

  19. DeniseVB says:

    Peeking in on Hannity, he has Scott Walker on ! Didn’t know he got 40% of the union vote 😀

  20. DeniseVB says:

    In case you were wondering what cable news channel kicked major ASS last night on election coverage….give up? 😀

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/06/06/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-june-5-2012/136983/

    • myiq2xu says:

      MSNBO was pretty entertaining.

      • leslie says:

        I’ll be watching MSNBO just to see them pretzel themselves. I like watching Ed and Tweety and Rachel twisting and turning themselves inside out and upside down backtracking and contradicting themselves in nanoseconds. They set records on Tuesday night.
        heh.

  21. HELENK says:

    being electronically challenged I am not sure if this will cause problems with comments
    some kind of new thing with the IP addresses went into effect today. Not supposed to affect things but with computers who knows.

    I know since yesterday I can not got to Katz Porch or John Smarts place. My trendmicro says dangerous page

    • leslie says:

      HELENK~ I’d been having probs both here and at JohnSmart for several days. Very strange things happeni. But my usually active McAfee has been unusually quiet. Today(Wed) and last night things appear to have returned to normal. You’re scaring me with the messages fro m trend (which I only just got rid of when I got this new computer in January)

  22. Lola-at-Large says:

    Is it time for random music videos yet? My daughter and I were surfing Youtube tonight and “re-found” this song, which I used to sing her to sleep with when she was a wee lass. We were both balling our eyes out for a minute.

  23. Lola-at-Large says:

  24. HELENK says:

    I am afraid that if the economy does not improve and businesses do not hire, we will be singing this song about here

  25. Lola-at-Large says:

  26. HELENK says:

    my husband used to bartend in an Irish Bar. We stopped on his day to see a friend. There was a new bartender who was a friend. The owners wife came in and said ” it as quiet as Finnigan’s Wake in here.” She then asked the new guy , whats your name?? He told her ” I’m Finngan.” that was his name

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      LOL. Will watch that video as soon as Ray Charles finishes. But nobody, but NOBODY has a sense of humor like the Irish. My maiden name was Patterson, ftr.

      • HELENK says:

        me mother’s maiden name was Doughtery and mine was Leonard. somewhere in the family there are Patterson’s

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          What a great song, my Irish sister! I’d not heard that one. It must be a DNA thing, because stuff like this just speaks to me at some genetic level.

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          We Irish honor the 1 drop rule, ftr. Maybe Warren shoulda fudged Irish instead of Cherokee? LOL

        • Lola-at-Large says:

          That IS the Irish way, myiq2xu. Just sayin’. (as she licks her glass clean)

        • HELENK says:

          It is a funny thing some people think that Irish music is When Irish Eyes are smiling. But go to an Irish bar on St Paddy’s day and a lot of the music is the UP THE REBELS sound.

  27. Lola-at-Large says:

    Breaking from the theme…

    LOVE this version.

  28. Lola-at-Large says:

    Sorry for the advertisement ahead of time. I collect songs that contain my name. Here’s one:

    Love me some Gillian Welch.

  29. angienc says:

    OT — Todd Starnes reported (via Twitter link to his FB page) on Obama at this fundraiser. This is disgusting but sadly not unexpected from this classless fool:

    Todd Starnes 16 minutes ago
    President Obama is spending the anniversary of D-Day taking cash from gays and lesbians in Hollywood. He’s speaking at a LGBT fundraiser in front of a gigantic American flag – reminiscent of “Patton”.

    He told a VERY suggestive joke about his wife.

    I’m going to quote from the White House Pool report:

    “Michelle outdoes me in pushups as well,” he said, after saying that she’s taken some criticism on her technique “because she doesn’t go all the way down” – a line that he let hang, naughtily provoking laughter from the crowd.

    — Folks — this is the President of the United States.

    • HELENK says:

      he has the class of a goat

    • Lola-at-Large says:

      WOW. And builds on the stereotype that black women don’t do oral sex. Which is a complete lie, but okay. You saw it here first. Obama pushed a sexist meme for gay dollars.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        Correction, exploited his WIFE in a sexist meme for gay dollars. She just might bury him in her organic garden well before November.

        • WMCB says:

          Aw, maybe he wasn’t insulting Michelle. Maybe he was complimenting Reggie Love.

          Yeah, I said it. If he’s gonna be a nasty prick I can be one right back.

  30. WMCB says:

    So long as we are going Irish tonight, here’s a grand Christmas song. You’re a punk, you’re a maggot….

  31. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/06/al-sharpton-republicans-cheated-stole-wisconsin-election/

    sharpton spewing his BS again. the republicans cheated in Wisconsin

  32. HELENK says:

    the music is bringing back a lot of memories for me.
    Our friend’s son sang in an Irish bar. and he used to sing this for his mom and dad

  33. threewickets says:

    This is pretty good from Podhoretz. Democrats’ Delusions

    Because they don’t only sell the snake oil, they drink it themselves. They buy their own propaganda; they believe the hype. Their vanity is their gravest weakness — and the secret weapon in the Republican arsenal.

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