Stupid should hurt


Seriously:

Supporters Slow to Grasp Health Law’s Legal Risks

With the Supreme Court likely to render judgment on President Obama’s health care law this week, the White House and Congress find themselves in a position that many advocates of the legislation once considered almost unimaginable.

In passing the law two years ago, Democrats entertained little doubt that it was constitutional. The White House held a conference call to tell reporters that any legal challenge, as one Obama aide put it, “will eventually fail and shouldn’t be given too much credence in the press.”

Congress held no hearing on the plan’s constitutionality until nearly a year after it was signed into law. Representative Nancy Pelosi, then the House speaker, scoffed when a reporter asked what part of the Constitution empowered Congress to force Americans to buy health insurance. “Are you serious?” she asked with disdain. “Are you serious?”


I’m no constitutional scholar, but I have taken a class or two on the subject. The first thing that jumps to mind is the phrase “enumerated powers.” While regulating interstate commerce is indeed one of Congress’ enumerated powers, the idea that that authority extends to making people purchase health insurance from private companies is a quantum leap from any previous legislation.

Obamacare was not only supposed to be his signature policy victory, it was supposed to complete the New Deal and Great Society social safety net. It is inconceivable that something so important wasn’t built on a firm constitutional foundation.

Was failure the plan?


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42 Responses to Stupid should hurt

  1. Oswald says:

    Can they really be that stupid?

    Yes they can!

  2. HELENK says:

    here is a good example of their stupidity

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234409-house-gop-senate-dems-cant-agree-on-violence-against-women-act

    TELL THEM TO GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NOW.

    this is not a muslim country violence against women is NOT acceptable

  3. insanelysane says:

    “Was failure the plan? ”

    Failure is all they got.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    If failure was the plan, someone needs to tell his supporters unless that was their plan too 😉 Here’s a little blurb from my local newspaper’s comments:

    I’m afraid of Romney. He seems to be so out of touch and I haven’t heard him say anything but he will destroy Medicare, Social Security, outsource jobs and help the wealthy over the middle income and lower income people. My vote will be mostly “against” him than it will be “for” anybody else.

    Stupid does hurt, or is it astroturf that hurts ? “….he hasn’t said it, but he will…..” /snort

  5. jeffhas says:

    Failure couldn’t possibly have been the plan – The Egos of Pelosi, Reid and Obama would not have allowed that Legacy.

    I agree with insanelysane “Failure is all they got”

    If/When this goes down, THEN, (I predict) you will see the collapse of his support.

    To have wasted the first two years of his Presidency on a law that was not Constitutional – that was put forth by a President that is supposed to be a Constitutional Law Professor – for a Law that the majority of people overwhelmingly don’t like… well, it’s just a STAGGERING DEFEAT. I dare say; in my lifetime, I cannot ever remember such a Colossal Failure in the world of Politics. I don’t believe the Media can hide this, or shield him, or spin it, I think everyday people are going to finally see the mistake that was made in electing the most inexperienced person EVER for the White House…. I think there will be endless talk of ‘how could we have done this’, ‘how could we not have known’, ‘why didn’t someone tell us about his lack of experience’ – all BEFORE the election is held in November.

    I predict he loses in a landslide if Health Care Reform goes down hard (meaning they throw the whole thing out) – if it’s some split ‘mandate is out, but everything else can move forward’ decision, then it will be closer – but he still loses solidly.

    We wanted jobs – he knew we wanted jobs – he knew it was the economy… and he focused all his energies on a law that is now null.

    There is just no getting beyond that disaster.

    • HELENK says:

      from you mouth or fingers to God’s ear

    • lyn5 says:

      I think Obama will lose no matter how the Supreme Court rules. I worry that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of PPACA because they don’t want to see the first black president fail. And I despise that sentiment.

      • jeffhas says:

        Oh, I think he loses no matter what too – I just think that if ACA goes down hard… it’s over early, people will writing his epitaph (“how could this have happened?”), and by November, it will be a foregone conclusion – an almost perfunctory landslide.

        … Did I mention…I can’t wait.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Woot jeff ! I think even if Obamacare is held up by the Supremes, he’ll go down anyhow. Romney’s already promising to get rid of it, and for those who don’t want it, over 50% last I saw, it’s still gonna hurt BO. Should it survive, ball will be in Romney’s court to explain how he’ll rework it. With hopes it’ll include tort reform and free market incentives to bring costs down with insurance companies……oh well, that’s for another discussion. 🙂

    • Lulu says:

      Obama et al thought that they could do anything. They had the media, they had successfully shut almost everyone up. They had Congress, the entire bureaucracy of the federal government, Wall St, Hollywood, big corporations, endless money, social media, pop culture and all that stuff. They thought it would last forever and they could keep the lid on dissent. No one could tell them anything. They had just co-opted a political party and moved the headquarters from the national capital to the home of dirty politics and pay to play.

      What did they not control? Some of the states of which some have deep pockets such as Texas, Virginia, and Florida. The hubris demonstrated by the DOJ staffed by Holder type hacks that they could win a Supreme Court argument defending a pathetic hashed up mess cobbled together by Obama supporting lobbyists against the best legal counsel that three particularly large states could buy shows just how stupid the nomination rigging, crap peddling, incompetent “leaders” of the Democratic Party really are. I would not want that dimwit Nancy Pelosi writing the rules for a sack race because she would try to rig them and then not let anyone read them. This failure is that of the entire party not just Obama. Remember that he passed it all off on Congress and he just supervised the secret meetings and lobbyists who were still putting money into campaigns.

  6. Oswald says:

    Axelrod: Obama win will ‘liberate’ Republicans to work with president

    Republicans of “good will” who want to work with President Obama will be “liberated” by his reelection in November, says Obama chief political strategist David Axelrod.

    In an interview with C-SPAN, Axelrod said there are plenty of Republicans who would like to work with Obama but have been unable to because of a “kind of reign of terror” in which any act of cooperation with the president was seen as a betrayal.

    Yet Axelrod insisted there are Republicans “of good will” would would like to work with Obama.

    “My belief is that when the president wins in November, we’re going to liberate these Republicans of good will,” Axelrod said.

    And we’ll all get ponies.

    • jeffhas says:

      I think the public wil ‘liberate’ the President from his job…

      THEN, everyone and I mean EVERYONE who is sick and tired of this partisan cr*p is going to rally behind the new guy… Much like they did for Obama – until he started shoving stuff down our throats.

      President Romney strikes me as the kind of guy that knows this (wow- maybe it’s his ‘experience’), and I bet he becomes way left-er than anyone thought for the first couple of years to get us all through this painful past.

      … but if he just proves to be another Egomaniacal Narcissist, well – then he’ll face the same fate in four years. We are getting tired of Presidents who act as though their credo is ‘let them eat cake’ – and all they got are sh*t sandwiches to feed us.

      • angienc says:

        I’ve got no problem with having a series of one-term Presidents. Like Mitt actually said: I like firing people who don’t give me satisfactory service.

    • angienc says:

      Are those the Republicans who tried to work with him when he was first election & he shut them down with the “I won” and “Elections have consequences” spiel?

      Yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath, Axlerod.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Funny, Axelrod didn’t name names? “Plenty of Republicans…” ??? It’s a mindf**k trick I tell ya. Reid’s Senate doesn’t even want to work with him. There’s what, more than a dozen House supported jobs bills sitting in the Senate?

    • SophieCT says:

      ROFL!!! Reminiscent of “We’ll be greeted as liberators.”

      hahahahahahaha…

  7. HELENK says:

    just the thought of meeeeschele going on Jeopardy made Alex Trebek sick

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeopardy-alex-trebek-heart-attack-341331

  8. angienc says:

    it was supposed to complete the New Deal and Great Society social safety net.

    This was the kind of shallow, intellectually lazy thinking that got them into trouble. The social safety net programs of the New Deal & Great Society changed citizens’ relationship with the government, not citizens’ relationship with private enterprise. Having a public option was the minimum requirement needed to tie Obamacare to those programs — once the public option was no longer on the table (if it ever actually was on the table) the Dems lost the thread. (Of course, a better analogy to the social safety net programs was to do Medicare For All, but that’s another story).

    I said that very thing repeatedly during the debates on the internet & was told I was stupid/racist/etc. Too bad the Dems couldn’t use those same so-called arguments in front of the SCOTUS.

    BTW, another example of their intellectually lazy thinking was the much ballyhooed “car insurance” analogy — refusing to acknowledge the fundamental difference between choosing to drive on public streets (you aren’t legally required to license & insure off-road vehicles) and being born doesn’t make the analogy valid.

    • Lulu says:

      This is why I think they are stupid. They literally cannot think very well. Add dumb to ignorance and you have stupid.

  9. SophieCT says:

    Was failure the plan?

    It was absolutely the plan. If they wanted success, they would have backed Hillary. If they wanted to get things done for real people, they would have backed Hillary. I’m not saying she’s perfect but she is several orders of magnitude better than anyone else we have or have had for several cycles.

    I think they wanted to show her up by getting it passed and then say SCOTUS or or the Republicans took it away from us. It’s the perfect lose-lose.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Looking back on the last 3.5 years of Obama and his constant campaigning, my worst fear is the mandate he would be given with a second term.

      So far, it looks like he’s running the country like a video game, from the White House basement.

    • Lulu says:

      And they will make so much racket that there will not be be a single Democratic office holder left in many of them. The Republicans will kvetch and belly ache on how they are having to clean up the Democrats mess for years. It is the most irresponsible mess I have ever seen by supposed learned adults. “Creative class” now officially means fuck up.

  10. HELENK says:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/us/past-denials-of-vulnerability-raise-health-act-what-ifs.html?_r=2&hp

    when the new york times tells democrats ” you should have listened” you know they are in trouble

  11. yttik says:

    “Was failure the plan?”

    No. You’re giving them too much credit. This was not an elaborate plot by our corporate overlords, it was simply the act of an inexperienced narcissist and his cult followers. Call it the banality of stupidity if you like.

  12. r u reddy says:

    My biggest fear on this score remains that the S C will uphold the Forced Mandate. At least if Roberts (and maybe Alito) vote to uphold the Forced Mandate, then I will have the small bitter pleasure of seeing my “theory” vindicated. If its the 4 “liberals” plus the prima kennedona, then I won’t even have that small pleasure amid the pain.

  13. foxyladi14 says:

    I can’t wait.on pins and needles.(ouch) 🙂

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