ID cards are racist


Huffpoop:

Eric Holder: Voter ID Laws Are ‘Poll Taxes’

Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday he opposes a new photo ID requirement in Texas elections because it would be harmful to minority voters.

In remarks to the NAACP in Houston, the attorney general said the Justice Department “will not allow political pretexts to disenfranchise American citizens of their most precious right.”

Under the law passed in Texas, Holder said that “many of those without IDs would have to travel great distances to get them – and some would struggle to pay for the documents they might need to obtain them.”

“We call those poll taxes,” Holder added spontaneously, drawing applause as he moved away from the original text of his speech with a reference to a fee used in some Southern states after slavery’s abolition to disenfranchise black people.

The 24th amendment to the constitution made that type of tax illegal.

Holder spoke a day after a trial started in federal court in Washington over the 2011 law passed by Texas’ GOP-dominated Legislature that requires voters to show photo identification when they get to the polls.

Under Texas’ law, Holder noted, a concealed handgun license would serve as acceptable ID to vote, but a student ID would not. He went on to say that while only 8 percent of white people do not have government-issued photo IDs, about 25 percent of black people lack such identification.


Ironically, you needed a government issued identification to get into the NAACP Convention to hear Eric Holder say that voter ID laws are racist. Seriously, you can’t make that shit up.

You can’t get into a federal building without ID. You can’t get a job, open a bank account, cash a check or get disability without proper identification. All of us need to show ID sometimes. That’s just the way it is.

Is there a big problem with voter fraud? Probably not. But in order to be able to legally vote you must be a citizen and a resident of the place where you want to vote. What is so bad about requiring someone to prove they are who they say they are and that are qualified to vote?

Obtaining an identification card for the first time can be inconvenient but so are lots of other things. The cost is nominal and most states will even wave the fee if you fill out a pauper’s declaration.

Who are all these people that can’t get an ID? What is stopping them from getting one? ID cards are a necessity these days. Why aren’t the people opposed to voter ID laws concerned about helping everyone get one?

If 25 percent of black people lack government-issued identification why isn’t the NAACP screaming bloody murder about it?


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43 Responses to ID cards are racist

  1. myiq2xu says:

    If 25 percent of black people lack government-issued identification why isn’t the NAACP screaming bloody murder about it?

    Sounds like discrimination to me.

    • That’s exactly what it sounds like. If you can’t get into government buildings without an ID, then how can you possibly participate in your government after you’ve cast that vote? Or is that all they want from some people?

      I’m not sure anymore that vote tampering is probably not a big deal. Given that Feds require ID for anything anyway, why are the Feds fighting so hard on this issue? At a certain point, the magnitude of the fight in relation to the actual problem they say it is becomes evidence that something is off.

      • myiq2xu says:

        I spent some time in drug court and defendants would be there for progress reports. They had previously been busted with drugs and had been referred for treatment in lieu of going to jail. Every single week you would see the same stuff.

        Judge: “Did you register with the program?”

        Defendant: “No sir.”

        Judge: “Why not?”

        Defendant: “It’s all the way across town and didn’t have a ride.”

        Judge: “If there was some dope all the way across town I bet you could find a ride.”

        • myiq2xu says:

          My favorite:

          Judge: “I’m going to give you two more weeks to get registered. If you don’t have proof of registration on that day you won’t need a ride home from court.”

  2. Lulu says:

    I think that they are becoming hysterical. If being required to declare a residence address is a poll tax so is the federal census. Registering your children for school would also be considered a poll tax since placement in school is based upon residence address. Banks, businesses, doctors offices,hotels all require ID with ADDRESS or a prosecutor will not take their fraud case if you don’t pay them, write a hot check, or are using a stolen credit card. So the prosecutors are imposing poll taxes? Years ago I asked a sheriff were I live why so many people did not register to vote. He said the voter rolls are public record and a lot of people do not want to be found. It is (was?) one of the places that is searched for locating people for warrants, child support, and bad debts.

    In this country we have the right to be hard to locate. But if you owe taxes the feds will locate you. Everyone knows this. The anecdotal stories of one person here and there who is transient, doesn’t drive or use public transportation, go to the doctor or have utilities,have a bank account (which is required for all forms of public assistance), or have an address (where do they live as all landlords require ID), I would have to think that they may have a reason that they do not want to be found which is their right but would make them unable to vote based on their own choices. The IRS requires we declare an address so we can be located so is this a poll tax? Voters are assigned by residence to voting location so Holder is claiming this is a poll tax.

    Holder is using incendiary language to bring up memories (or false stories) about civil rights violations. Declaring an address and proving who you are is the basis of our financial and legal system. By claiming that the states should be unable to do what the federal government does everyday in making us prove repeatedly who we are and where we live, Holder is showing himself to be a lying hypocrite.

    • elliesmom says:

      I have a friend who refused to register to vote because he thought it would get him out of jury duty. When he was called anyway, he demanded to know how they got his name. He was surprised to find out how many ways the government knows who we are and where we live.

      • Lulu says:

        Yes I have heard that one too. I have also heard of people getting fired for giving a false address to an employer thinking it would get them out of child support payments. False addresses to hospitals to get out of the bill is common also (I might sympathize a little in this). I worked for an attorney years ago who had a client who would not give anything but fake information. He got picked up for a warrant and called the office for help to get out of jail. My employer told him that he did not actually exist therefore could not be making the phone call and could not be his client currently residing in jail. The clients mother had to come to the office with all of his stuff to prove who the heck he was with correct BC, SS card, medical records, all of it including parole papers. The system will figure out who you are so why shouldn’t voter registration? It is after all a legal process.

  3. myiq2xu says:

    Sometimes I think the GOP suckers the Democrats into taking stupid and unpopular positions. This may be one of those situations.

    It’s like flag-burning. The GOP knows it is protected by the 1st Amendment. But they submit a bill to outlaw it anyway. The Democrats rush to defend flag-burning. If the bill passes they file lawsuits to block it. What do people see in the news? Democrats supporting flag-burning.

    The Democrats win the battle but lose the war. Then they wonder what’s wrong with those stupid voters.

    Remember Dukakis and the Pledge of Allegiance? Poppy Bush ate his lunch on that issue. At every rally he was leading people in the Pledge.

    • myiq2xu says:

      BTW – the more hysterical the Democrats act, the better for the GOP.

      The SMART response would be to say okay, lets pass these laws, but we have to include a provision to help everyone get proper ID.

      • Mary says:

        Texas actually offered free ID’s for those who couldn’t afford one. Even offered free transportation to and from the closest location to the non-registered citizen. Only 23 people took them up on the offer.

        They don’t want to be found.

        • elliesmom says:

          I’d like to know how many people who want to vote, and legally can, have no id. I would guess that the number is very small and getting those people an id would be very easy. Which begs the question, what could the motive be to cry racism unless the opponents do want to have a way to have illegal votes cast?

        • Lulu says:

          I would say that some want to vote but not have the possibility of being located for various reasons. You have to have an address to be assigned a voting place. Voting districts are established using census data for fair distribution of voters in voting districts and voting rights. Is Holder arguing against the census and its use in establishing minority voting districts? Is he saying that one group should not have to provide ID or everyone? If no one does election day can just devolve into mobs overwhelming polling places. His argument is that some people should have special privileges not to prove who they are with special rights that others will not allowed. What is his justification that some have rights that others will not and that those rights may be exercised without the same responsibility of others? He doesn’t answer that but that will be part of the court cases that DOJ will have to argue. And I think DOJ will lose because it is selective in the extreme.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Well if we can’t help those who don’t want to be helped, do we really need them to vote ?

        • Lulu says:

          They want it all on their own terms. If it applies to them it should apply to everyone. If they don’t have to have ID nor should anyone else to register and we can all go vote everywhere we want in multiple districts. Since I have a car and gas money I bet I could vote in three counties twenty times if I got busy. If some people can so can I.

  4. carol haka says:

    Just another diversion. If we just all accept the premise we are all
    racists, they have nothing left.

    Time to do away with the racist NAACP, Black Caucus etc…….

    👿

    • myiq2xu says:

      A real racist wouldn’t care, but a non-racist who was falsely accused would be offended.

      I know I was.

      • carol haka says:

        That was tongue in cheek.

        We can spend all of our time denying it but to what avail?

        I am soooooooo over the Left’s racist attacks and the media describing everything about the election in terms of racial profiling.

        Hillary declared she still had a chance with the working class white voters blah blah blah in a phone interview and was declared a racist. No public figure has yet had the balls to describe what 97% of the black vote going to Obama is.

        👿

      • elliesmom says:

        I was offended at first, but then it became like getting rained on. At some point your clothes are soaked through, and a little more rain just doesn’t matter. While before all of the race card games started, I thought that minorities had a right to be resentful, now I don’t care, and it doesn’t bother me that I don’t care. If unemployment in your community is 14%, and you think things in DC are just fine, then who am I to argue with you? It’s like having a student who’s getting C’s and D’s so you try to talk to his parents about how he could do better, but they are as comfortable with his grades as he is. When you are a new teacher, you keep trying and trying to get through, but after you’ve been at it awhile, when you have 124 other students, you realize you don’t have time to lie awake at night worrying about this one. And you move on.

  5. votermom says:

    Who are all these people that can’t get an ID? What is stopping them from getting one?

    I know who they are in Philly. In Philly every election day, busloads of voters come over to vote. Mysteriously, they do not have PA drivers licenses. If you check their wallets you will probably see NJ drivers licenses.

    (I blame PennDOT for being racist by denying them their PA licenses. /s )

  6. votermom says:

    Btw, does Oswald have a twitter account?

    • myiq2xu says:

      Like kicking over a hornet’s nest.

      • Lulu says:

        They really do not comprehend that voting is a legal process based upon law. The laws are supposed to preserve civil rights for everyone, be non-discriminatory, apply equally to everyone, promote equal representation, and impose order on the process. It is the I want what I want and I want it now because I want it mentality. It is juvenile.

    • Oswald says:

      And just like that I’ve been banned from SkyHating.

      That was fun.

      • elliesmom says:

        I’m persona non grata over there, too, but if I could have commented to Beata, I would have suggested that she could have looked up the local chapter of the League of Women Voters and asked them for assistance, and if she’s a disabled person and there are seats with obviously healthy young people in them, you politely ask one of them to move. If the person you ask refuses, someone close by will get up for you.

        • Oswald says:

          Then what would she complain about? Somebody needs to tell her to get off the cross because we need the wood.

  7. votermom says:

    Mitt is speaking at NAACP convention in Houston today. He does have guts.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/11/politics/romney-naacp/index.html

    Of course there is a hashtag game: #ThingsRomneyShouldSaytotheNAACP

  8. yttik says:

    What astounds me is the hypocrisy and partisanship. In Washington state most of us have to vote by mail which requires ID, proof of address, and that we be registered with the SOS. Nobody says anything because this is a liberal state, I guess. The same is true with our illegal immigration laws. A few years ago we not only copied Arizona’s laws, we expanded on them. Nobody calls us racist. Why not? Why do they go after Texas and Arizona but completely ignore other states doing the exact same thing?

  9. myiq2xu says:

    Check this out – Romney is speaking to the NAACP tonight but Obama is sending Biden to speak tomorrow.

    What is Obama doing that is so important that he has to skip the NAACP convention?

    • leslie says:

      Golfing? He hasn’t had much time to play that game lately, has he?

      This is yet another time TehOnce disses yet another group of voters he can count on. I mean, just how much money can barry hope to get from NAACP?

  10. FembotsForObama says:

    “He went on to say that while only 8 percent of white people do not have government-issued photo IDs, about 25 percent of black people lack such identification.” Where in the heck did he get these numbers from? Anybody know?

  11. Constance says:

    We don’t even “go to vote” at polling places anymore in Washington state. We only have by mail elections. This really seems like an old fashioned non problem.

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