Do as we say and not as we do

Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret

Rep. Nancy Pelosi was emphatic. Mitt Romney’s refusal to release more than two years of his personal tax returns, she said, makes him unfit to win confirmation as a member of the president’s Cabinet, let alone to hold the high office himself.

Sen. Harry Reid went farther: Romney’s refusal to make public more of his tax records makes him unfit to be a dogcatcher.

They do not, however, think that standard of transparency should apply to them. The two Democratic leaders of the Senate and the House of Representatives are among hundreds of senators and representatives from both parties who refused to release their tax records. Just 17 out of the 535 members of Congress released their most recent tax forms or provided some similar documentation of their tax liabilities in response to requests from McClatchy over the last three months. Another 19 replied that they wouldn’t release the information, and the remainder never responded to the query.

The widespread secrecy in one branch of the government suggests a self-imposed double standard. Yet while American politics has come to expect candidates for the presidency to release their tax returns, the president isn’t alone in having a say over the nation’s tax laws. Congress also stands to gain or lose by the very tax policies it enacts, and tax records – more than any broad financial disclosure rules now in place – offer the chance to see whether the leaders of the government stand to benefit from their own actions.


To Pelosi and some other top Democrats, the focus is on Romney, the Republican presidential candidate, who’s released his 2010 return and 2011 estimates and plans to release his 2011 return when it’s completed, but refuses to release any more. They say the very refusal to release more suggests that he’s hiding something.

“He could not even become a Cabinet member for that lack of disclosure, and now with that lack of disclosure he wants to be president of the United States,” said Pelosi, the House minority leader, who’s from California.

“We’d like to know what’s in those tax returns that he refuses to show to the American public. Did he pay any taxes?” Reid asked in an impassioned speech to the Senate on July 11. Days later, Reid, who’s from Nevada, suggested that Romney’s refusal to release more than two years of tax returns would make him ineligible to serve even as dogcatcher.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, also has harangued Romney for refusing to release more tax returns, calling it a “penchant for secrecy.”

All three refused repeated requests from McClatchy to release their own returns, requests that started before the flap over Romney’s records.

What are they hiding???

Seriously, that would be some useful information. Imagine if you could review a congressman’s taxes from before they took office until now. Congressional spouses should be fair game too. I wonder how many congressional spouses got high-paying new jobs or promotions when their significant other got elected?

Like Michelle Obama, for example.

(h/t angienc)

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62 Responses to Do as we say and not as we do

  1. Oswald says:

    Democrats starting a legislative push to get Romney to release his tax returns

    In the House, Rep. Sander Levin (D-Mich.) is proposing legislation that would require presidential candidates to release 10 years worth of tax returns and disclose any overseas investments.

    And in the Senate, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich) are proposing beefing up financial disclosure forms for all candidates for federal office to require disclosure of overseas investments, including Swiss bank accounts.

    The House bill would also require new disclosure of off-shore investments but specifically targeted the tax return issue. Rep. Sander Levin said Romney should “set the example” for future candidates and release his returns. But then he said the law must be changed so release of tax information is not at the discretion of candidates.

    “I don’t think there’s any question now in terms of the responsibility of the candidate,” he said. “I think the law ought to now reflect that responsibility.”

    One little problem – the Constitution lays out the requirements to be POTUS. Congress cannot legislate additional requirements

  2. lyn5 says:

    I always thought Obama was unfit to be a dogcatcher.

  3. myiq2xu says:

    Damn, Giants are rain delayed in Atlanta

  4. Lulu says:

    Before Obama became a US Senator he didn’t make any money. He worked part-time and Michelle was a public employee. Both were Harvard Law graduates but they did not make much because they did not work that much especially Obama. So each had enormous investments in their future but they did not take advantage of it like most people would to make a decent living (like Romney). I personally would like to see their tax returns and like to know why they made so little with the enormous educational advantages that they both had.

  5. myiq2xu says:

    WaPo’s Chris Cillizza Predicts ‘Death by a Thousand Political Cuts’ for Romney

    Appearing on Wednesday’s Andrea Mitchell Reports on MSNBC, The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza warned Mitt Romney that he would suffer “a death by a thousand political cuts” if he does not release more tax returns. Cillizza further proclaimed: “…every day we talk about tax returns. Why hasn’t he released them? What’s in them?…the current position he has is untenable politically.”

    Continuing to push for Romney to release more, Cillizza predicted: “…what we don’t know is how much tax he did pay. And until he releases more…the Obama team, at least, is not going to let this go away.” He then concluded: “…all this stuff gets them [Republicans] away from talking about what they want to talk about, which is why I think he [Romney] needs to lance the boil, politically, sooner rather than later.”

    Sounds almost like a threat.

  6. myiq2xu says:,_Wisconsin

    Population – 3109

    Area – 1.6 sq. miles

    This community is located 18 miles from Madison.

    The racial makeup of the village is 97.01% White, 0.39% African American, 0.23% Native American, 0.19% Asian, 1.45% from other races, and 0.74% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.76% of the population.

    • myiq2xu says:


      Where did Lola’s comment go?

      • I deleted it. Was trying to reframe and accidentally trashed it. Then hit “empty trash” while aiming for restore. What I get for drinking and blogging.

      • But your point was what I was trying to add. I’m sure all those 3100 people who live find it such a hardship to drive a few miles to the next town.

      • Let me try to recreate:

        Dakinat’s most recent stupidity:

        Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month.

        According to the Sauk County BMV, there are three BMVs in the area with the following hours of operation:

        Hours: 7 a.m.-5 p.m. – Monday, Wednesday


        Hours: 8:15 a.m.-4 p.m. – 1st, 2nd, 3rd Wednesday of the month


        Hours: 8:15 a.m.-4 p.m. – 5th Wednesday of any month

        See Myiq’s comments above for population data that explains this. I bet if we called the BMV, we’d find one employee is floating among the last two centers on Wednesdays. The whole county has 58,000 pop, Sauk City has 3100.

        • DandyTiger says:

          And the points are well taken. First the blatant lies about when they’re open. And then when you think about the population and area, you can only conclude that there is no hardship whatsoever in getting to a DMV. QED

        • myiq2xu says:

          Everything within that county is within a 30 minute drive.

        • She’s an idiot. Corroborating the data is one of the main rules of research. I teach it to my students. They can do it, why can’t she? And cherry-picking is a big no-no. She knows that.

          • myiq2xu says:

            If you challenge their perception of reality you will be banned from their blog. They consider the truth rude and offensive.

        • DandyTiger says:

          It’s hard for me to argue with them, I only went to Stanford.

          • myiq2xu says:

            I went to Stanford. Several times actually.

            The Elway v. Elway football game against SJSU was the most fun.

            (I used to work for the pest control company that services the Farm.)

        • DandyTiger says:

          I went to the USA – Brazil Olympic soccer game there. Brazilians partying is a sight to behold.

        • myiq2xu says:

          So is the Stanford Band

        • votermom says:

          Wait – so Dak is part of the government will solve all our problems mindset, except that govt offices are always closed?

        • Jeebus, that’s what get’s me, votermom. Having an ID it too much of a barrier to vote, but never mind that you can’t even petition the government you elected by showing up at their offices without an ID. Where’s the freaking outrage over THAT?

        • angienc says:

          Even forgetting that all her data is wrong/misrepresented– hasn’t anyone heard of planning ahead & arranging to go into work late on a scheduled day? Because I have to fucking do *exactly* that when it is time for me to renew my license — believe it or not, even though the DMVs every place I’ve lived in 3 different states have always been open 5 days a week, the 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. hours have been standard in all of them.

        • myiq2xu says:

          Don’t you know?

          All these discriminated against minority voters are poor, disabled, live in isolated places and can’t get anyone to give them rides.

          (Of course if they are getting any kind of welfare, food stamps, Medicaid or disability they already have an ID card)

        • Oswald says:

          Asking Beata how she cashed her disability checks without an ID card got me banned.

          They said I was bullying her.

  7. angienc says:

    The tax return thing is such a bunch of shit. As I posted in the other thread:

    But think about this — there will be *something* there — a company Romney invested in at one time fired someone for sexual harassment say, or had a lawsuit alleging same even, etc — something that can be twisted, distorted & lied about (with the MSM getting hysterical over it). They actually lied about him being a felon, misrepresenting those SEC docs because (1) they knew their true believers would believe whatever they were told and (2) they knew most everyone else would be ignorant on the subject — and it sure *sounds* bad. They will make *anything* no matter how unrelated to Romney personal & pin in on him. It’s a fishing expedition.

    Also, FTR, since POTUS candidates started releasing tax returns — even though not required by law (back to Nixon race) — the # released has been between 0 (Reagan) and 12 (Bill Clinton) — mostly on the lower end. McCain, for example, released 2 years. So Romney releasing 2 years is right in line, especially considering he doesn’t *have* to release any.

    One a personal level, I’m glad he is taking a stand against the Obama/MSM bullshit. Unlike some other alleged 2008 Hillary supporters –I remember the disgusting tactics the DNC, Obama & the MSM used against Hillary then McCain & Palin. Obama & the MSM are children stamping their feet to get their way — no matter they have no *right* to what they are asking — and Romney is the dad telling them “no” and not discussing it anymore. I think they are shocked Romney hasn’t capitulated & are still in denial — they keep saying “eventually he will release them” etc. I don’t think he will — he said back when his supporters heckled Axelrod in Boston & the MSM demanded he “condemn” that action (after they had failed to report all the OFA people showing up to Romney events to heckle him) that he wasn’t going to play by a different set of rules while Obama was allowed to play by another (“What’s sauce for the goose”). I like that because for once, they are going to have to take their medicine & learn — you cannot so blatantly treat one person (Obama) so very, very differently than you treat everyone else.

    Hang in there Mitt!

  8. And here it comes, the wave is starting. Romney takes the lead for the first time in the Times/CBS poll, 45-43. Buried, of course, at the end of the 5th paragraph.

  9. yttik says:

    Holy smokes! I hope Obama isn’t counting on poor people’s vote! I just spent the day listening to some seriously PO’ed people tell me because of Obama, they now live in their car, in their parent’s basement.

    There’s a misconception, mostly from people on the Right, that implies Obama is going to get the welfare vote because he’s giving out so many benefits. Not true, these people have lost every charitable service they ever had, seen their Gov benefits cut back, lost their local assistance due to to city and county Gov’s going broke.

    In my area, we now have no meals on wheels for the elderly, no energy assistance, no dental or medical care for adults on medicaid, no mental health services, no daycare grants, no job training funds and our food bank is only open one day a week and it’s been turning people away.

  10. Lulu says:

    Have some of the Obama administration skunks already been playing looky-loo with Romney’s tax returns? They control the federal government, have no discernible scruples, and seem most pissed off when their plans go awry or are thwarted. They cannot leak it because it is a violation of the Privacy Act or they would have already done it and might still do it.

  11. myiq2xu says:

    SF Giants win 9-4 in 11 after 1hr 15min rain delay in Atlanta. Giants blew two leads. They play Atlanta again in less than 12 hours.

  12. HELENK says:

    obama – reid – holder this is one unholy trio that are doing their best to screw this country to the ground.
    January 21 2013 we have to make sure they are no longer in a position to continue to harm this country

  13. Glennmcgahee says:

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned before but ole Debbie Wasserman Schulz, my Congresscritter has felons for parents and her hubby isn’t far off:

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