Obligatory Chick-fil-A post


Now Chicago Alderman seeks to ban Chick-fil-A

First it was the Mayor of Boston who announced his intention to block business permits for Chick-fil-A not because there is any evidence that it discriminates in employment or services, but because its founder and his son (now the President) support keeping the definition of marriage as one man – one woman.

Now an Alderman in Chicago is joining in on the act:

A Chicago alderman wants to kill Chick-fil-A’s plans to build a restaurant in his increasingly trendy Northwest Side ward because the fast-food chain’s top executive vocally opposes gay marriage.

Ald.Proco “Joe” Moreno announced this week that he will block Chick-fil-A’s effort to build its second Chicago store, which would be in the Logan Square neighborhood, following company President Dan Cathy’s remarks last week that he was “guilty as charged” for supporting the biblical definition of marriage as between a man and woman.


I hate situations like this because my sympathies are with the people I have to disagree with. If I speak my mind I run the risk of upsetting people I like.

First of all let me say I fully support LGBT rights and gay marriage. (Why should straight people be the only miserable ones?) I have never even been to a Chick-fil-A but I understand they have a very good product.

This is not a case where a business is discriminating against LGBT customers or employees. This is a case of trying to punish someone for exercising their 1st Amendment rights. Remember that old saying that goes “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it?”

I really don’t think this is a road we want to go down. If we do we will have to face the Law of Unintended Consequences. Taken to its logical extreme these boycotts will just further polarize the nation as each side plays tit for tat. They can also backfire. (Remember Carrie Prejean?)

I do not trust the motives of the politicians leading this controversy. Rahm Emanuel? Gimme a break. This all feels staged and I think the LGBT community is being used and manipulated.

Ask yourself why this fight, why now?

It gets the troops riled up and changes the headlines for a few days. Funds are raised. Then after the election the new franchises are quietly approved. At best, Chick-fil-A has to struggle along with its existing 1614 outlets for a while.

We need to pick our battles carefully. I don’t think this is one we should be fighting. YMMV


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41 Responses to Obligatory Chick-fil-A post

  1. Lola-at-Large says:

    As I said in the last thread, an obvious ploy to rile up the pro-gay rights crowd in the desperate hope that social issues will take precedence this election season. It’s not going to happen.

    Me, I’ve been quietly boycotting Chik-fil-a for years over this very issue. Last year one of my old friends on Facebook posted that she was going for her usual round of Saturday Chik-fil-a. She’s a zealous leftist, Obama supporter, and a card-carrying member of the intra-policing crowd. I gently reminded her of the stance of Chik-fil-a’s founder on gay issues and her response was that she knew, but couldn’t help herself. I defriended her shortly afterward, not over that issue, but over her general aggressive & shitty attitude on FB with politics. I wish we were still friends right now just so I could watch her go full boil over this. Hypocrisy is such an entertaining show.

  2. angienc says:

    Ask yourself why this fight, why now?

    No shit. The personal views of the owner of Chick-Fil-A are old news — all franchises are closed on Sunday for the love of cheese! Why they are being brought up now is transparent to all but the willfully blind.
    And yeah, good business plan there Boston & Chicago mayors as it’s a well known fact that “dirty Chick-Fil-A” tax money doesn’t spend the same as other money. /s

  3. carol haka says:

    The definition of “Marriage” should be preserved for those who wish to have the word represent their union.

    The definition of “Marriage” should be changed for those who wish to have the word represent their union.

    That should settle the issue.

    Any more questions?

    👿

  4. carol haka says:

    Amazingly, I have no idea what the leadership team of What-a-Burger or Steak-n-Shake or In&Out Burgers thoughts are on the proper definition of Marriage is.

    👿

  5. HELENK says:

    I do not want government going to war with a business over the owners religious beliefs. If he were breaking laws that is one thing. But because of his religious beliefs is going down a real slippery path.

    earlier today I read an article about holder’s dept of crime going after a company because their Catholic faith keeps them from providing health care that makes them pay for abortion.

    This is a government that I have never seen before and it is really not showing American values or following constitutional rights of our citizens

  6. yttik says:

    Something else to keep in mind, if we go down this path, we will harm the economy. I live in a town that politicizes all business, so if you want to open one in this area, you have to prove why it is going to be beneficial to the community. If you don’t, you won’t get the zoning and the permits. “Beneficial to the community” means having the correct politics. The problem is, whose politics? Well, there’s diverse opinion around here so almost no business makes the cut because somebody always has an objection to something. The end result is that we’re becoming a ghost town.

  7. DandyTiger says:

    Wasn’t this Obama position up until a couple of months ago? And in practical terms of really doing something about it, isn’t this still Obama’s position?

  8. tommy says:

    Excellent post. Concise and to the point.

  9. Oswald says:

    This could easily be my daughter:

  10. yttik says:

    A while back I heard the Chick-Fil-A guy talking about how the purpose of his business was to glorify God. It made me laugh because I was thinking, who glorifies God with a fast food chicken sandwich?! I mean, I’d be scared that God would be offended! This is the Creator of the universe and we’re going to honor him some fast food off a dollar menu?? Shouldn’t we at least use the cloth napkins and the good silver?

  11. tommy says:

    Rahm Emanuel stated that Chick-fil-A values aren’t Chicago values. I really laughed out loud. Sounds like an ad for Chick-fil-A.

  12. DandyTiger says:

    I think I may just try Chick-Fil-A tomorrow for the first time.

    • angienc says:

      Dude, you haven’t tried Chick-Fil-A? Get the LARGE waffle fries — you’ll thank me later.

      • votermom says:

        My kid is addicted to the sweet potato fries. Luckily that is a seasonal item.

      • Lola-at-Large says:

        LOL. I saw a post on a friend’s FB page today that bemoaned that no one else sold waffle fries. I didn’t say it, but I thought that if her commitment to gay rights was as deep as her taste for waffle fries, there’s a bigger problem.

        I’m not suggesting that boycotting CFA is an expression of support for gay rights, but she clearly thought it was.

  13. Lulu says:

    Chik-fil-A is a franchise. The stores are owned by local people and staffed by locals. The highly successful Chik-fil-A franchise here locally is owned by one of the biggest hell-raising heathens that I know. Being closed on Sunday is a great advantage to him so he can recover from his Saturday night bender and be ready for work Monday which is one of his life-long patterns of behavior. It is also one of the preferred places of first jobs for kids from religious families because the kids will not miss church and I am talking about kids from every race, ethnic group, and socioeconomic condition. Chik-fil-A also encourages franchise holders to hire the mentally handicapped which falls into the inclinations of my rowdy friend who grew up with a delightful Down’s syndrome sister at home and she can be visited sitting at the restaurant smiling and greeting people and occasionally cleaning tables.

    Chik-fil-A is a Georgia company. I suspect a lot of this is regional bigotry from the progs. Any variance from their bizarre and byzantine belief system is to be humiliated, dehumanized, restricted, and stamped out. If Chik-fil-A would only stick a wind mill or Solyndra solar panel on top of the buildings I sure everything would be dandy. The locals that were investing in these franchises from a highly lucrative company are going to be pissed off in Boston or Chicago or any other silly proggy city with good reason.

    • votermom says:

      She pointed out that Pres Obama until very recently held the same position on gay marriage that Chick-Fil-A’s owner does now.

      Awesome.

  14. votermom says:

    Thanks for the post, myiq. When we go out for fastfood (which is rare), Chick-Fil-A is our first choice. That’s because the chicken taste good, the place is spotless, the service is excellent (a worker actually goes around offering drink refills – they even do this in a mall foodcourt) and for kid’s meals, instead of junk toys they include a kid’s book or learning game. In our local franchise, mostly the workers are young people and immigrants.
    And the Dems want me to boycott this place and help those workers lose their jobs because the founder’s son disagrees with them politically – I guess I should go eat at someplace with pink slime burgers that parrots the party line? Yeah, not happening.
    This is America – you can hold personal political views and still participate in the free market. Shocking.

  15. Glennmcgahee says:

    While I am a gay man and abhor the words and deeds of the CEO/owner of the chain, I do not think it should be politicized in any way. We can protest, boycott or whatever you will call it as individuals or even as a group of people but NO WAY do I want a government entity to do that for me. Government must respect the 1st amendment but as a person I can protest by not eating/buying Chik filet and asking friends to do the same. Thats it.

    • DeniseVB says:

      One of my best political friends is gay and we never talk about it, so much else that’s important to both of us. Funny that I just saw him on Facebook *liking* Mike Huckabee’s campaign to support CFA. I have no desire to ask him why, but I know he’s a conservative since we met at a local tea party meet-up.

      I boycott businesses that are a)poor product/services or b)not subcribing to cable channels that hire misogynist “comedians” 😀

      I support everyone’s right to pursue what makes them happy as long as it doesn’t interfere with my pursuit of happy-ness. (Gawd, I’m turning into a libertarian!)

  16. Glennmcgahee says:

    Same thing with Obama btw, I wrote to Wasserman Schulz telling her while I got that Obama had evolved on gay marriage I also realized he said it should be left up to the states, in other words, nothing would ever happen on a Federal level like the 1964 Equal Rights Amendment so I get that he’s just pandering and I couldn’t buy that either.

  17. Glennmcgahee says:

    1964 CIVIL rights amendment, sorry. There never will be an equal rights amendment until Hillary is elected.

  18. yttik says:

    Something else to note, while protesting Chick fil A, Rahm and the Chicago values crowd is welcoming Louis Farrakhan to town. Farrakhan is another religious extremist with a lot of bigoted attitudes.

  19. Anthony says:

    Until they install fag alarms on the doors and windows, I will continue to eat their waffle fries any time I’m near NYU. So far, they haven’t turned me straight, so I’m good to go.

    I would LOVE to see “Gays for Chick-fil-A” start up as a competing lobby. Rahm would say anything to help The Dog Eater postpone running on his accomplishments.

  20. Glennmcgahee says:

    My cousin owns a Franchise and gives me lots of freebie coupons. I’ll take their free stuff anytime but not give them my money. Fag alarm? I need to start selling those..

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