Jill Stein – seriously?

Around Left Blogistan you can find a number of non-Koolaid drinking lefties who are planning to vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein. So I figured we should take a closer look at her.

From her campaign bio:

Dr. Jill Stein is a mother, housewife, physician, longtime teacher of internal medicine, and pioneering environmental-health advocate.


Jill was born in Chicago and raised in suburban Highland Park, Illinois. She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College in 1973, and from Harvard Medical School in 1979. Jill enjoys writing and performing music, and enjoys long walks with her Great Dane, Bandita. Dr. Stein lives in Lexington with her husband, Richard Rohrer, also a physician. She has two sons, Ben and Noah, who have graduated from college in the past few years.

Well, it appears that Ms. Stein meets the constitutional requirements to be president. She is a natural born citizen, she is over the age of 35 years and she has been a resident for over 14 years. She is a little weak on practical experience though.

She has run for political office several times in the past, but so far she has only won two terms as a city of Lexington Town Meeting Representative. She was also appointed co-chair of a local recycling committee.

What about her political positions? According to Wikipedia:

Along the lines of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal solution to the Great Depression, Jill Stein advocates a “Green New Deal”[34] in which renewable energy jobs would be created to address climate change and environmental issues with the objective of employing “every American willing and able to work”.[34] Citing the research of Dr. Phillip Harvey, Professor of Law & Economics at Rutgers University, as evidence of the successful economic effects of the 1930s’ New Deal projects, Stein would fund the plan with a 30% reduction in the U.S. military budget, returning US troops home, and increasing taxes on areas such as capital gains, offshore tax havens and multimillion dollar real estate. Stein plans on impacting what she sees as a growing convergence of environmental crises in water, soil, fisheries and forests, through the creation of sustainable infrastructure based in clean renewable energy generation and sustainable communities principles such as increasing intra-city mass transit and inter-city railroads, creating ‘complete streets’ that safely encourage bike and pedestrian traffic and regional food systems based on sustainable organic agriculture.[34]

If you want the long version you’ll have to go here to read it.

Now let’s get to the practical stuff. Jill Stein ain’t gonna win. If you vote for her you’re doing it as a protest. That’s okay, casting a protest vote is a legitimate option. You own your vote and you can do whatever you want. But Jill Stein ain’t gonna win.

But let’s say that a week before the election Barack Obama and Mitt Romney get caught together in an airport men’s room stall with a live boy and a dead hooker and Stein narrowly defeats Rocky Anderson for an Electoral College win. Then what?

The House and Senate would still be controlled by Jackasses and Pachyderms. Would “President” Stein even be able to fill out her Cabinet with qualified Greens? What about the rest of government?

Would a Green POTUS be able to enact any part of the Green platform? Who would she rely on for advice? How would she react if Iran obtained nuclear weapons and threatened Israel or Russia invaded Poland?

Ask yourself this question – would you really feel comfortable with Jill Stein (or any other current third-party candidate) sitting in the Oval Orifice for the next four years?

Think about it, then vote your conscience.

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48 Responses to Jill Stein – seriously?

  1. DandyTiger says:

    Oh hell no. Nothing person Jill, but having as little experience as Obama scares the shit out of me. Jeebus people, it’s for POTUS. How about get some experience as a governor for a while, or get into congress and do something useful for a while. Have an effect, get stuff done, learn how to work with other politicians. And learn how to run things. Something substantial. And a campaign doesn’t count. A big business, a state, even a friggen sizable city would help.

    Of course as a protest vote, I certainly understand. Send a message. Me, I’m sending a big message to the left side of the aisle, I want them to all go away so we can start over with the “left” party. Currently we have two “right” parties, one kind of crazy and one completely corrupt and inept.

    Then when we’re done with the Dems, we’ll do the same with the Repubs. Time to clean house.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Historically the only viable 3rd parties are ones that split off from one of the two major parties.

      The last 3rd party candidate to win was Lincoln, but the Whigs had dissolved.

      The last 3rd party candidate to place second was Teddy Roosevelt.

      • westcoaster says:

        Ross Perot didn’t do too badly…19% of the popular vote. He shouldn’t have dropped out and then come back in.

  2. myiq2xu says:


    riverdaughter, on August 4, 2012 at 3:33 pm said:

    Mebbe, but I’m not promoting the idea of Romney as a revenge move here on this blog.
    It makes no damn sense and I won’t support it-at all. If you don’t like Obama, the best thing you can do is find a third party candidate.

    • DeniseVB says:

      That’s one of my “read only” blogs just to see how our old friends on the left are coping.

      Promoting Third Party is saying, okay, another Obama term is fine too. Ms. Stein doesn’t have the buzz to stir protest votes in that Nader/Perot sort of way. The game plan should be to beat the sh*t out of Obama then proceed to take the Dem Party back. I don’t mean in that “classy” OWS way either /s.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Voting for Romney would not be “revenge,” it would be a strategic move. The old “one step backward, two steps forward at a later date” maneuver.

      • angienc says:

        Gary Johnson has more buzz than Jill Stein from what I can see — he’s even been on some news shows (didn’t watch, but saw his appearance promo’d).

        Back in 2000 I was begging people not to vote Nader, that the election was too important, etc. No one paid attention then, either, insisting (in Nader’s words) that there “wasn’t a dime’s worth of difference” between Bush & Gore. Funny, I remember the same shit being said about Hillary & Obama during the 2008 primary — whenever anyone says that you can bank on the fact the speaker doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

        Nonetheless, a protest vote is a valid choice — showing up to the polls & refusing to vote for either of the 2 major parties *does* send a message — how strong an effect that message has is another thing; as is the consequences of choosing to send that message.

        I’m not begging anyone to do anything — if they can’t see what a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure Obama is and the damage he’s done to the Dem party & the country with his divisiveness based on the last 4 years starting with the 2008 primary, I’m not going to be able to convince them at this late date.

        • angienc says:

          Last line should have been:

          if they can’t see what a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure Obama is and the damage he’s done to the Dem party & the country with his divisiveness based on the last 4 years starting with the 2008 primary and that voting him out of office should be priority/message number one, I’m not going to be able to convince them at this late date.

        • DeniseVB says:

          Of all the superfluous third parties, I think Rocky Anderson is my favorite. I think he was one of the first Dems thrown under the bus back in the day, much like Cory Booker’s been treated recently. My only interest in the Dem Convention is to see who they put in primetime speaking positions as rising stars.

        • Jen the Michigander says:

          Gary Johnson was the Governor of New Mexico. He’s more qualified than Jill Stein or the other 3rd Party candidates. He’s more qualified than the community organizer in chief.

        • angienc says:

          @Jen — I made no comment about Gary Johnson’s qualifications to be POTUS. My comment was only that he had more buzz than Jill Stein.

          And FTR, I think saying someone is more qualified than Obama to be POTUS is superfluous — a potted plant is more qualified than Obama to be POTUS.

      • gxm17 says:

        I don’t understand why Jill has isn’t getting any press. She’s the first Green party member to qualify for matching funds. That’s pretty amazing. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised as she appeals to those of us who fall further left. I’m guessing that the media will only generate stories on those third party candidates that appeal to center and right leaning people (those folks who would probably lean Romney) in an effort to carry the Big Zero over the finish line yet again.

    • DandyTiger says:

      I suspect most liberals voting for Romney are voting against Obama because he’s been a disastrous president, and he’s destroying the liberal brand. No revenge involved. It’s more about survival.

  3. DeniseVB says:

    What happened to the Roseanne Barr/ Willie Nelson ticket ? I’m crushed 😉

    After the 2000 clusterfu*k election, I decided to join the Green Party and I was pumped, a Nader Raider was me! But it just kinda rolled over and died on me, so I spent the next few years bitchin’n’moanin’ on dkos and du … with like minds, oh yeah!

    Flash forward past the Edwards years, then watching my party eat it’s own (HRC), then spit on Sarah, and Obama worship as the next coming…..oh dear GAWD …. I am now, and will forever be an Independent, country before party, voting for the best candidate. That is all. 😀 PS. It’s NOT Obama.

    • DailyPUMA says:

      Roseanne Barr and Ralph Nader would have been fun, and i would have voted for that ticket, although Ralph would want to be the presidential candidate, not the VP.

      Voting for Stein could help legitimize her platform. We’re wasting a billion dollars a day just to pay the interest rate charges on 3 trillion dollars of consumer debt.

      That billion dollars a day could be amazing seed money for all kinds of local green energy projects. How about 10,000, 100,000 dollar green project grants sprinkled around the country each and every day?

      • myiq2xu says:

        Oh goody, 10,000 little Solyndras

      • DeniseVB says:

        So what’s the PUMA strategy this year ?

        • angienc says:

          Seems to be split 3 ways: (1) Those voting for Romney to get Obama out in hopes that a purge of the Obamacons will cause the Dem party to re-assess the bullshit they’ve been flagrantly engaging in for the last 4 years (disenfranchising voters, causing division among different minority groups, dissing white middle class voters); (2) Those voting 3rd party because while they can’t vote for Obama, they can’t vote for the GOP either (I make no comment on what they hope to achieve with this — if they are in a solid red/blue state, the vote doesn’t really matter anyway; if not, I don’t know — all I’ll say is I’m in an alleged swing state & I’m not doing that) and (3) Those who have been assimilated back into the Borg & suddenly realize that while they weren’t against Obama in 2008 for racist reasons, the rest of us were (see: skyhaters).

    • I know you’re joking, Denis, but Roseanne Barr can kiss my ass. She’s an entertainment genius and a political idiot. It’s not even her crass ways that turn me off, as I’m a big fan of Andrew Jackson. It’s her absolute lunacy that turns me off.

  4. myiq2xu says:

    It’s not gonna happen but if Hillary ran as an independent she would essentially still be a Democrat. If she won she would appoint Dems to her administration.

    Sarah Palin would do the same except she would still be a Republican.

  5. myiq2xu says:

    Why am I being subjected to Obama ads?


    • For real? Aren’t you a left coaster? If they are running ads in California they really are scared shitless.

    • DeniseVB says:

      That’s nothin’ here in battle state Virginny, we get slammed from both sides AND their EVIL PACs. The local media is loving it, ad money rolling in and all. :groan:

      • DandyTiger says:

        I’m close to pounding my head against the wall. It isn’t that you see some commercials. Some can be fun. It’s the same ones over and over and over and over and over again. I keep the remote close by and hit mute or change the channel quickly when they come up.

    • Anthony says:

      Same thing happening here in NYC. I figure they’re more screwed than even we know

      • Lizzy says:

        Maybe they got my message. The dems called me begging money. I told them that as long a Obama is on the Ticket I will neither contribute to or vote for dems. I even told them I was leaning toward Wendy Long, the N. Y.Republican candidate for senate.

    • Lizzy says:

      Obama wants your three dollars. You can save his election.

  6. anony says:

    “Ask yourself this question – would you really feel comfortable with Jill Stein (or any other current third-party candidate) sitting in the Oval Orifice for the next four years?”

    hell, YES!

  7. myiq2xu says:

    Via AofS, the Democrats have “momentum”

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Something fun for political junkies, Ann Althouse was thinking … suppose Kennedy was never assassinated, how would Presidential tickets line up from ’64-’12 ? The comments are verrrrrry interesting, worth the read 😀


  9. foxyladi14 says:

    every vote for third party is one less for the Wonce. :lol;

  10. gxm17 says:

    I plan on voting for Jill and I would love to see third parties bust through the two-party ceiling this year. We need more options, which IMO would move us closer to democracy than we are now. But I’m a good soldier, and living in Virginia, I’ve always said I’ll vote for Romney if I have to. And, folks, I really don’t think I’ll have to.

  11. The Green Party will not be getting my vote in its current incarnation. I care about the environment as much as the next person, but the people who have power in that party are just as authoritarian, if not more so, than Obamacrats. There are reasonable solutions to be proposed; none of them are coming from Greens. To me, they’re kind of like Lucy Wright’s Shakers. It’s a interesting idea on paper, but eventually the extremism of it was so poor that they decoupled themselves out of existence. Carbon taxes and such are utter nonsense, as long as their aimed the individual. They might work as a regulatory control on corporations, and that’s a big might. .

    You can’t force people to change and hope to maintain power. You have to assist them into coming into on their own. And I personally don’t believe there is a damn thing that humans can throw at Mother Nature/Gaia/whatever they call it these days that she can’t recover from, except maybe total nuclear war. Even then, she’d come back. We’d be the ones wiped out, not earth. Who says that’s a bad thing and why?

  12. underwhelmed says:

    For the love of all things holy, or at least wholesome, do not vote for anyone Green. The Greens got their hands on some power in Australia and it is proving to be an unmitigated disaster. You guys would be so very, very sorry. You need pro-environmental voices in positions of contributory influence. You do not want them driving the bus.

  13. yttik says:

    “…born in Chicago and raised in suburban Highland Park, Illinois. She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard College…”

    I’m not racist, I just no longer trust people from Chicago who went to Harvard.

    • Lulu says:

      Amen! There is something in the water that makes them think they are some kind of elite and the rest of us have to genuflect. The enviros were overtaken by fanatics backed by “venture capital” thirty years ago. Through marketing they have convinced millions that they are righteous and elite to sooth a psychological need while simultaneously selling them expensive crap. Environmentalism is common sense not a holy calling. It is a marketing tool to shape behavior.

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