Lyin’ about Ryan


So I was over at the Rathole of Bitterness and I noticed they were all out of anti-Mormon bigotry today. Instead they were pimping a clever pack of lies about Paul Ryan by Chuckie Pierce:

The Ryan Family’s History of Fakery

I was struck by the revelation in this morning’s paean to zombie-eyed granny-starving in the Times, that young, up-from-the-muddy-bootstraps Paul Ryan, the plucky burger-flippin’ success story from darkest Janesville, Wisconsin, had amassed a fortune of “between three and $7.7 million” without having held a more lucrative job than “Congressman” at any point in his adult life. Then, I noticed another item. Namely, that:

Mr. Ryan reported two tax-deferred college savings plans, with a combined value of between $150,000 and $300,000. He also reported two investment partnerships worth, in total, between $350,000 and $750,000, mostly containing shares of stock in well-known companies, including Apple, Goodrich, Kraft Foods, Visa and Whole Foods. Both partnerships were formed by Mr. Ryan and other family members to manage assets left by his grandparents and an aunt. Mrs. Ryan has reported receiving a trust after her mother died in 2010 that is valued between $1 million and $5 million, according to a letter Mr. Ryan filed with his latest financial disclosure. Mrs. Ryan also has longstanding interests in several mining and oil exploration investments in Oklahoma and Texas managed by her father, Dan Little, a lawyer in Oklahoma whose clients include oil and gas companies. Those investments generated as much as $150,000 in income last year.

So, he’s not the son of poor Smallville dirt farmer Jonathan Kent and his wife, Martha, after all. Where does the family dough come from? A construction company founded by Great Grandpa Ryan. The Rude Pundit went a’wandering through Googlestan, and what did he find? Among other great nuggets, this thing right here:

“The Ryan workload from 1910 until the rural interstate Highway System was completed 60 years later, was mostly Highway construction.”


If you were a gullible person of low intelligence with poor reading skills you might get the impression that Paul Ryan has been very dishonest about himself, telling people how he overcame adversity to get where he is today when he was really born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

But I’m not a very trusting person so I check sources for myself and I try to read carefully.

First of all, Paul Ryan never claimed to be poor. But his dad died when he was just sixteen. Ryan was then living in Janesville, Wisconsin with his mother. His paternal great-grandfather had indeed founded a paving business, but it was owned and run by other members of the Ryan family. Paul Ryan’s father was an attorney who did not work for the family business.

After Paul’s father died he was entitled to Social Security benefits until he turned eighteen. Paul saved that money and used it to help pay for college. He also worked at McDonald’s while he was in high school. After he graduated from college Ryan entered public service where he has remained ever since.

Now here is where the reading skills become important. Chuckie P. makes it sound like Ryan amassed a small fortune on a Congressman’s salary. But read carefully:

Mr. Ryan reported two tax-deferred college savings plans, with a combined value of between $150,000 and $300,000.


Paul Ryan has three kids. He has managed to put aside some money for them for college. It’s not an outrageous amount for someone who makes $174,000 a year.

But wait! There’s more!

He also reported two investment partnerships worth, in total, between $350,000 and $750,000, mostly containing shares of stock in well-known companies, including Apple, Goodrich, Kraft Foods, Visa and Whole Foods. Both partnerships were formed by Mr. Ryan and other family members to manage assets left by his grandparents and an aunt.


This one is unclear – is that the total value of the partnership or is that just Ryan’s share? How much did he inherit and when did he actually inherit it?

This is the best part:

Mrs. Ryan has reported receiving a trust after her mother died in 2010 that is valued between $1 million and $5 million, according to a letter Mr. Ryan filed with his latest financial disclosure. Mrs. Ryan also has longstanding interests in several mining and oil exploration investments in Oklahoma and Texas managed by her father, Dan Little, a lawyer in Oklahoma whose clients include oil and gas companies. Those investments generated as much as $150,000 in income last year.


“Mrs. Ryan” would be Janna Ryan, Paul’s wife. In other words, the bulk of the “fortune” amassed by Paul Ryan actually belongs to his wife. Wisconsin is a community property state so if they were to divorce she would keep all of her inheritance as her separate property.

Last but not least is the idea that Paul Ryan is a hypocrite because some members of his family made money building roads via government contracts. But Ryan has never argued that government should not build and maintain roads. And his great-grandfather still had to run a business at a profit while winning low-bid contracts.

What’s that you say? The article didn’t actually say anything that wasn’t true? That is correct. But my grandpa used to say “The best way to lie is to tell the truth creatively.” Chuckie P. has obviously learned that technique.


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86 Responses to Lyin’ about Ryan

  1. myiq2xu says:

    If Paul Ryan is such a bad guy that people have to lie about him to make sure he doesn’t get elected, why do they have to lie about him?

  2. mcnorman says:

    I have a difficult time with creative story telling as fact. Rathole of Bitterness…quite appropo.

  3. myiq2xu says:

  4. HELENK says:

    Paul Ryan will be on the Britt Hume at FOX tonight at 6PM eastern time

  5. myiq2xu says:

    Media devoted to finding Romney-Ryan conflicts
    By Jennifer Rubin

    The latest media obsession (or is it an Obama campaign talking point?) is to demand Mitt Romney explain how his budget and entitlement ideas differ from those Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). When he declines, the media screams, “Evasion!”

    Why on earth would Romney answer that, and, more important, does anyone care? If the media is really interested in a compare and contrast exercise they can do their own analysis or ask some staffers. Romney, of course, is running at the top of the ticket, and both Romney and Ryan are running on Romney’s agenda. All Romney need do is explain what HE is for and how that differs from the president’s plans. Is there any voter who will decide to vote for or against Romney because of deviations from the plan his VP has proposed? That would be a first.

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  8. HELENK says:

    http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Democrats-Thought-Ryan-Was-A-Boon-To-Their-Prospects-In-2010-Too

    in 2010 the democrats thought that Paul Ryan was a boon to their prospects. We know how that turned out

  9. tommy says:

    O/T I just popped into Hotair and watched Newt school Piers Morgan. In a span of a few minutes, newt taught economics, accused Morgan of being part of the mantra club and also being an extension of the Obama campaign. It was hilarious! Looks like the repubs have decided to screw the MSM.

  10. Mary says:

    More Obama lyin:

    Remember The One in Iowa yesterday fussing that Ryan and his cohorts needed to pass the Farm Bill?

    The Repub House passed it 2 weeks ago. It’s Harry Reid’s Senate that didn’t vote on it and went on vacation instead.

    Sheesh

  11. Lulu says:

    Is the Obama campaign now advocating college loans over thrift via the 529 plans? Just who is the audience that these attacks are aimed at? I know of two employers that offer these plans as part of a bennies package to encourage saving for their kids and this is bad? I think the hysteria over Ryan has reached the point where the Obama campaign is not thinking at all about what they are throwing at the wall.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Have they ever thought about what they throw at the wall? I don’t think so. Up ’till now, if they made a mistake about what they threw at the wall, the MSM would clean it up for them. They still are trying, but they seem to have less funds for cleanup crews. 🙂

  12. HELENK says:

    between Sununu, Newt and Christi, the talking heads will be spinning this election. The terrific trio can confuse them with facts.

  13. DandyTiger says:

    Tuned into MSNBC for a second. Here’s the gist of their broadcast: Mormon, Catholic, Mormon, Catholic, Mormon, Catholic, Mormon, Catholic, Mormon, Catholic, Mormon, Catholic,… And then, wait for it, Ryan is an Evangelical Catholic.

  14. Oswald says:

    That reminds me of what my uncle said about the best thing about dating homeless women – when the date is over you can drop them off anywhere.

  15. Good takedown, myiq. Here’s how this will play out in the public. Big YAWN. You know why? Plenty of people have rich relatives that don’t do jack for them.

    I have two uncles who are part of the top 5%. One is a liberal creative class type living in NYC. The other is a conservative doctor living in Hawaii.

    The conservative doctor is the one who helped fund my grandmother’s retirement, and after she died, he routinely sent my mom checks for multiple thousands of dollars about every two years to say thank you for taking the hit by taking care of my grandma for 15 long years, which started the minute my brother turned of age.

    The liberal creative class type uncle is the one who only gave money to help with funeral costs for my grandma. He gave nothing for her care. He tried to sidle up to me a friendly way on FB last year, and told me I was too smart not to go to grad school. He didn’t offer me a dime to help pay for it even though he knew I couldn’t afford it, but he DID tell me the story of how a family friend of his mother’s paid every dime of his own undergraduate degree, including books and fees and a monthly living stipend. He ultimately defriended me because he could not tolerate my politics.

    Conversely, my conservative doctor uncle had to pay his entire way through medical school, which he did by joining the army.

    I personally have not benefited one iota from either of these folks, and I don’t resent that. I make my own way, always have, always will. But I can tell you who I have more respect for. And it’s not Mr. NYC.

  16. Oswald says:

    “Mrs. Ryan” would be Janna Ryan, Paul’s wife. In other words, the bulk of the “fortune” amassed by Paul Ryan actually belongs to his wife.

    But she didn’t have it when he married her.

  17. HELENK says:

    OFF TOPIC

    http://www.infowars.com/national-weather-service-follows-dhs-in-huge-ammo-purchase/

    do we shoot hurricanes now??? why would the national weather service need 46,000 hollow point bullets?

  18. HELENK says:

    Just think who would you rather have for Vice President? Paul Ryan or him

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/14/video-biden-imitates-sign-language-interpreter/

    • DandyTiger says:

      Nah, that was silly and OK I think.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Agree, but do wonder if it would a tragic, heartless, mean, cruel, insensitive thing to do if Ryan or Sarah did it? 😉

        To wit, both Obama and Romney screwed up their VP intros, but Romney recovered quickly and turned it into a better intro (I made a mistake, but not picking this guy ! yayyyyy!) Nope, just Romney is a stupid idiot…….

  19. HELENK says:

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Booker-sidelined-Democrats-Newark/2012/08/14/id/448469

    the dems sideline Corey Booker. they really are afraid of someone who makes backtrack look bad

  20. Funny, I seem to have read somewhere in the last couple of days that Mrs. Ryan comes from a family that is D politically? Uncle or something in office down in OK?
    Bipartisan marriage too!

  21. HELENK says:

    Iowa Hawk

    at Iowa State Fair, Obama skewers Romney for dog-on-car story; orders deep fried poodle on a stick

  22. DeniseVB says:

    It’s always sad to spot RalphB hanging with the “cool kids”. I always have an urge to do an intervention, but won’t post there anymore since BB is such a, cough, delightful, cough, host.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Cool kids? Maybe in their isolated bubble. Mostly they seem to be about hate as far as I’ve seen. Sad.

      • Been hate filled for a couple of years now. Sad. I used to read over there all the time.

      • DM says:

        I got tired of the hate.

        • Lulu says:

          Outrage is addictive. It gets the endorphins going like a runner’s high. If they are not full tilt outraged and angry they feel down, flat and unmotivated. They become addicted to being angry and pissy to make their moods feel normal. Nothing gets the outrage going like good old hate and any target will do.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Cool kids is a pet name I gave some of the commenters when I was a noob at dkos and du. (circa ’03?) To have any of them respond to me was the highlight of my day !!!!! How sad was I ? LOL. Oh, and you dare not disagree with them or you’re reported as a FREEPER !

    • Well I take that as a direct attack on women. Who, not coincidentally, are far behind people of color in every objective measure. That’s the problem with identity politics in the first place. Once AAs get their 13%, they’re even. If we ran the show on the merits, they could get much more.

    • Mary says:

      National Security??? Oh puhleaase.

  23. DeniseVB says:

    This is totally for entertainment value, but my submission for Tinfoil Tuesday 😀

    http://visiontoamerica.com/11476/jerome-corsi-evidence-obama-was-married-to-pakistani-man/

    Did I win? /s

    • Lulu says:

      I don’t think it would have worked out. They both seem like the wife to me. But he finally found happiness with his husband Michelle. /s

      Corsi is nuts. And creepy.

  24. tommy says:

    I’m watching Terminator Salvation. And I’m pondering over a few philosophical questions.

  25. myiq2xu says:

  26. HELENK says:

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/cnn-anchor-caught-reading-liberal-blog-on-air/

    she really should have held her orders below the desk, so they would not be shown on camera

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