First Rule of Holes Violation


Rep. Steve King: I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest

Rep. Steve King, one of the most staunchly conservative members of the House, was one of the few Republicans who did not strongly condemn Rep. Todd Akin Monday for his remarks regarding pregnancy and rape. King also signaled why — he might agree with parts of Akin’s assertion.

King told an Iowa reporter he’s never heard of a child getting pregnant from statutory rape or incest.

“Well I just haven’t heard of that being a circumstance that’s been brought to me in any personal way,” King told KMEG-TV Monday, “and I’d be open to discussion about that subject matter.”


The RNC should make all its members and candidates attend a mandatory sex-ed class.

Toot sweet.


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85 Responses to First Rule of Holes Violation

  1. Never heard of a child getting pregnant from statutory rape or incest??? Seriously?
    First- imvho, any child that is pregnant is evidence of rape and/or incest.
    Secondly- any time he would like to meet someone who suffered through it, he only need give me a call. I can introduce him to a few.

  2. jesus christ on a ham sandwich this is truly sickening. What the fuck is wrong with these fucking assholes?

    • myiq2xu says:

      How do they get elected in the first place?

      • myiq2xu says:

        These guys aren’t illiterate hillbillies. They went to college somewhere.

        • They may not be illiterate or hillbillies but they ARE ignorant. I dont think human reproduction (or even basic anatomy and physiology) were on their reading lists.

          Women studies classes DEFINITELY werent I’d be willing to bet a lot of money.

        • gxm17 says:

          They should be forced to watch the movie “Precious” on infinite repeat Clockwork Orange style.

        • And the Color Purple, and To Kill a Mockingbird, and The Bluest Eye, and the story of Oedipus and his wife/mother Jocasta, and The Cider House Rules, and Invisible Man, and Tender is the Night,and the Manchurion Candidate, and the Shipping News, and Paradise Lost, and the story of Lot and his daughters in the FUCKING BIBLE.

        • Anna Belle says:

          Agree with gmx & darragh here. Great list of movies to drive th epoint home.

      • People vote for them I guess. The only thing I can hope is that until now no one knew Akins and King’s indefensibly ignorant views on pregnancy and rape bc no one ever asked them, or if they did it got lost in the slow-moving legacy media. Maybe nowadays dinosaur dickheads like Akin and King will find they have nowhere to hide and they will be forced to GO AWAY.

        • FedUpnMo says:

          In Akin’s case, he got 36% of the vote in a three-way primary with a very light turnout. Some of those votes were no doubt McCaskill supporters. We have open primaries in MO, and Claire was unopposed. Not exactly a mandate from Missouri voters.

    • simofish says:

      My parents donated to his re-election this year. Then again my parents are homophobic. This guy is a nut job.

  3. myiq2xu says:

    Todd Akin on the Dana Show right now:

    http://www.971talk.com/webcam/

  4. CNN reporting that Aiken is staying in the race no matter what the GOP pressure for him to drop out.

    Bad news for Romney in my opinion. Hopefully not too bad.

  5. carol haka says:

    Sperm and eggs evidentally have been schooled in “intent”. And, during legitimate rape and/or incest only the legitimate rape and/or incest sperm and eggs are released, therefore no pregnancy. Any questions? 👿

  6. votermom says:

    I’m a guessing this is Sarah’s “Itoldyaso”

  7. yttik says:

    I think I understand the problem. After reading the last thread, all these congresscritters are so obsessed with sexually abusing young boys that they have never even had to think about girls and the possibility of pregnancy.

  8. SHV says:

    “Akins and King’s indefensibly ignorant views on pregnancy and rape ”
    ********
    “Ignorance” implies that the opinion can be changed by education. This is different; it falls into the category of a person with an “education” believing that the Earth is 6,000 years old.

    Akin just got caught up “in the moment” and said what he and, I suspect, that a lot of the people who voted for him believe.

  9. votermom says:

  10. The republicans keep digging:

    “Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved platform language on Tuesday calling for a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest.”

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/g-o-p-approves-strict-anti-abortion-language-in-party-platform/?hp

    Bad timing.

    • carol haka says:

      Well, I guess I’ll be gettin’ my ticket to Obama’s next inauguration. I want to be up close when I drop my cyanide pill! 👿

    • That tears it! These people WANT TO LOSE. And if they do this, they deserve what they get. When are they going to get it?

      Also, I am so cynical I would not be surprised if you know who’s super pac paid off this jackass to open his mouth and say this stupid disgusting sh*T and then refused to exit. Talk about exposing the issue to sunlight. Why are women so threatening that our every movement has to be controlled like we are chattel? I guess I just can’t find it in myself to believe someone could be that cruel, or ignorant or stupid.

  11. Anna Belle says:

    Amen to that, myiq.

  12. carol haka says:

    Reasons Akin says he is staying:

    He’s staying in because “I won the primary”.
    He misspoke one word in one sentence in one day.
    He’s like a rescue worker who goes into the blazing towers on 9/11 to rescue a lady in a wheelchair.
    He doesn’t need any money or support from the GOP because he’s got people.
    The Democrat PPP poll shows him with a one point lead.
    People understand his message.
    He believes in his cause.
    Claire McCaskill said nice things about him.

    Has anyone checked into what it takes to have him picked up for a psychiatric stay???

    👿

    • leslie says:

      He’s a danger to himself, others – to society. Unfortunately this kind of symptom doesn’t qualify him for anything other than intensive re-education. Can we send him to camp?

      I hear there’s still some kinda camp that we run down in Cuba.

  13. carol haka says:

    Seriously, Drudge is reporting that Biden will be at the GOP convention. Did I miss something?

    Also, if we could get the morons to all show up at one location we could send in the nets and capture them all for retraining into the human race!

    👿

  14. SHV says:

    A little more research on Todd Akin. In addition to his “Engineering Management” degree he also has a “Masters of Divinity” degree. He belongs to the Presbyterian Church in America which among other things believes:

    “They sought to reaffirm the Westminster Confession of Faith as the fullest and clearest exposition of biblical faith and to call all pastors and leaders to affirm the inerrancy of Scripture. As a result they also felt the church should disavow the ordination of women.”

  15. catarina says:

    Jesus, I need a beer. Maybe a shot too.
    Can’t watch any more of this.
    How the fuck.

  16. SHV says:

    Todd Akin didn’t “mis-speak”, this is likely where he got the ideas about rape:

    http://www.physiciansforlife.org/content/view/492/26/

  17. HELENK says:

    new political ad

  18. angienc says:

    Akin is proof that there are people out there who will believe *anything* — literally, nothing is too insane for them to believe. In fact, there are people out there right now who believe Obama when he said yesterday that when you run for POTUS your life should be “an open book” or that Romney is “the most secretive candidate EVAH!” or that a guy who has a kill list & who personally selects drone targets without regard for any innocent bystanders (heck, any male over 15 can just be called an “enemy combatant” anyway) is the most moral POTUS we’ve ever had.
    The examples are endless.

  19. Constance says:

    You couldn’t pay me to vote for Obama after the Democrats sexism against Hillary and Palin in 2008. But I can’t believe the Republicans want my vote when they wallow in this sort of delusional crap. I will probably just vote my local ballot and write in Presidential Barbie for President.

    • angienc says:

      See, I agree with you until you got to this:

      But I can’t believe the Republicans want my vote when they wallow in this sort of delusional crap.

      How can you write that with a straight face? Everyone — and I mean EVERYONE — in the GOP from the chairman of the RNC Reince Priebus, to the nominee Mitt Romney to every single elected (and former) MO GOP official has condemned what this guy said in no uncertain terms (Priebus called it “bizarre fake biology” on CNN) & asked him to step down. The Senate RNC has withdrawn all financial support for him (that’s $5 million they will *not* be giving to the race if he steps in) as well as all the major Republican SuperPacs that had planned to run ads against McCaskill, but now will not. What do you want the GOP to do that would *not* equate them to be “wallowing in this sort of delusional crap” by your standards? Shoot the man?

      I find your implication that you *might* have voted anything *but* third-party prior to this brouhaha suspect.

      • leslie says:

        I can’t pretend to know what Constance meant. But I think that if they all “have condemned what this guy said in no uncertain terms”, it is bizarre that . . .

        “Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved platform language on Tuesday calling for a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest.”

        from darraghcmurphy, on August 21, 2012 at 11:48 am

        Really what of any of this makes sense ? (and you all know where I stand on this election. And now I just want to pound my head on my desk, but someone will more than likely hear it and walk me over to the psych unit across the street.)

        • DandyTiger says:

          That has been their platform for years. Nothing new. It’s what they say to pull the right religious types. Just like the Dems say they’re for gay marriage in their platform. Neither will lift a finger to actually do those things.

        • angienc says:

          My comment below should have nested here in response to leslie.

        • yttik says:

          First of all, it’s just a draft. It hasn’t been approved yet. Second of all, it’s vague, it doesn’t include a lot of detail, it’s their party’s expression of intent, kind of like the Dems sometimes claim they intend to support women’s equality in their party platforms. Party platforms are often meaningless statements. You can’t really say they want to ban abortion in all cases, including rape and incest, like the article above does, because the wording is too vague to form that conclusion. “Faithful to the ‘self-evident’ truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life.”

          And lastly, Republicans have always had something like this is their party platforms, at least for the last 20 years. Nothing has suddenly changed. Ironically, in spite of the party platform, both McCain and Bush (and Romney) have always supported exemptions for life of the mother, rape, etc, in direct opposition to the party platform. Kind of like Tim Kaine who was the head of the DNC a few years ago was rabidly pro-life, in direct opposition to his Dem party.

      • DandyTiger says:

        It’s what we call a concern troll. 🙂

      • angienc says:

        leslie — that is the exact same language the GOP platform has always had and it is being misrepresented now as having “no exception for rape or incest” — it doesn’t address any kind of exceptions and only talks about sanctity of all human life, etc. If, in fact, someone is surprised to learn that the GOP is “pro-life” then, well, I can’t help that ignorance.

        But even if the “Human Life” Amendment (or whatever it is called in the GOP platform) did say “no exceptions for abortion” (which it doesn’t) it still isn’t claiming that women can’t get pregnant from rape (which is what Akin said).

        • angienc says:

          And allow me to amend my previous statement — if people want to use a theoretical abortion law that has no chance of EVER being enacted as an excuse to vote for Obama despite his actual record on all policies and laws he has actual passed (whether through Congress or executive fiat)– including those concerning women, but not to mention habeas corpus, the economy, etc — than this country is fucked anyway.

          In fact, this country was fucked back in 2008 when people fell for Obama in the first place with his bullshit “this is the moment that the planet started to heal” insanity. I’ve been clinging to the idea that now that he’s been exposed for the fraud that he is that people would be smart enough to try to right the ship. Alas, it seems that Akin isn’t the only delusional moron in this country.

        • leslie says:

          angienc ~ “I’ve been clinging to the idea that now that he’s been exposed for the fraud that he is that people would be smart enough to try to right the ship. Alas, it seems that Akin isn’t the only delusional moron in this country”
          I think we all have been clinging to that idea. But when I talk to people who are bright, and educated and intelligent and whip smart, and I still hear that obama is TehOne, I, frankly, become more than a little concerned about where we will end up.

          I am not aware of the past GOP platform language, because until 2008, I was steeped in the language of brain damaged Democrat. Nothing I’m proud of, but there you have it. And yes, I know they profess to be pro-life.

          I agree that it is unlikely anything will change re abortion, gay rights, women’s rights, universal health care, but I can’t help but be disappointed. No wonder Biden referred to this as the 20th century.

  20. myiq2xu says:

    • DandyTiger says:

      Current polls show Akin ahead of McCaskill. I don’t think that will last. But then again, I don’t know much about Missouri. Maybe that’s what they all think there. Remind me never to go to Missouri.

      • votermom says:

        I tweeted earlier that Akin might win anyway – a state that elected McCaskill can’t have very high senate standards.

      • angienc says:

        If you’re talking about that flash PPP poll (the one the idiot Akin is relying on) which has him up by 1 it has a +9 REPUBLICAN skew (first time I’ve *ever* seen that). In 2010 the GOP had it’s biggest turn out ever in MO & it was +3 Rep — which means there would have to be 3x that turnout now to get Akin within margin of error.

        Of course, Akin is relying on that poll because the man is a delusional idiot.

        • DandyTiger says:

          Yep, that’s the one. Didn’t look enough to notice the skew. He’s so done. Which is a great sign frankly. If he won that seat, I’d be very sad about it.

  21. DandyTiger says:

    Funnily enough, I think this is a good thing. The crazy has come out of the closet and has made establishment R’s point out that they won’t tolerate that level of crazy. That’s progress IMHO. And I think R&R have put them down and have said they clearly support choice in cases of rape and incest. That’s kind of a big thing for them.

    It was a pretty smart move by the DNC to fund Aiken to try to get him elected. They knew what a nutcase he was. So did Palin. Too bad the Missouri R’s don’t have a clue, or perhaps think like this guy. So the Dems will get a lot of mileage out of this. But I don’t think it helps them in the long run. They will keep pointing out how this guy is the messenger for the GOP, and that sounds about as crazy as Aiken himself. They will overplay their hands in that regard and push it too far. Because they can’t help it. We’ll see.

    One good thing, it has made all the people who were already going to vote for Obama who were on the fence or pretending or whatever, to jump and say they’re voting for Obama. Like we didn’t know already. And clearly a wild crazy nut saying something crazy like this has nothing whatsoever to do with R&R. I call BS on all those people. This is just a convenient rationalization of what they were already going to do.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Having said that about R&R, Aiken is toast. McCaskill will definitely win that seat. Done and done.

      • yttik says:

        I feel bad for Missouri because either way they lose. The battle at this point will be about who is hated more, Akin or McCaskill.

        I think people should keep in mind that McCaskill is really not liked much, starting back when she said she supported Obama because her kid told her to. Things just went downhill from there.

    • angienc says:

      HONK! I love when you’re all smart and methodical.

      From your lips to God’s ears.

    • leslie says:

      I call BS on all those people. This is just a convenient rationalization of what they were already going to do.”

      I suppose that’s true. I had a “discussion” with one of my brothers on Sunday who first said he’d never vote for obama again and then said no, he meant Romney. I imagine all this will “convince” him to vote for obama again. I think that’s who he wanted to vote for anyway. We’ll see.

      • leslie says:

        I can’t type worth cr#p. The italics were to have been closed after the quote from Dandy Tiger. I still can’t see the cursor when I’m typing; I think that is one of the problems.

  22. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/21/obama-campaign-has-sandra-fluke-send-official-email-tying-akin-to-romney-ryan/

    sandra fluke got a job. still wants us to pay so she does not get pregnant while hooking up

  23. carol haka says:

    Obama might want to have a talk about Valerie paying her fair share:

    CHICAGO (WLS) – A conservative website is reporting President Barack Obama’s senior advisor Valerie Jarrett of Chicago has an insider’s connection when it comes to some of her property taxes.

    Jarrett owns an 11-percent equity interest in a luxury apartment complex called Kingsbury Plaza, according to an aritlce in the Washington Free Beacon. It was built by Habitat Company, where Jarrett was once chief executive officer. Kingsbury Plaza and the land it is on are taxed at a value of $6.8 million, though it’s worth $27.2 million for tax purposes.

    A series of legal appeals have reduced its value for tax purposes and Republican state chairman Pat Brady has pointed out that House speaker Mike Madigan’s law firm represents Habitat.

    “Well it’s just another Chicago insider deal that goes all the way up to the White House,” said Brady. “We have the de-facto chief of staff Valerie Jarrett who apparently pays an exorbitantly low property tax rate for her income properties all done at the hands of Mike Madigan who manipulated that system for years.”

    Brady concedes it’s all legal, but he says it’s not ethical.

    • leslie says:

      all legal but not ethical is how Madigan runs most of the state. His footprint is everywhere there is a deal to be made. . . including the judiciary in Illinos. If you don’t contribute to him when he wants you to, he’ll have half-truths leaked to the press that will taint you so that you can never run for your office or judgeship again.

  24. carol haka says:

    I really don’t think many of the politicians care about anything other than the opportunity to “play act” in their little cocoons.

    It’s so pathetic.

    And listening to Mittens and his minions squeal about negative campaigning and dirty tricks makes me puke! He may become a fabulous leader but he will have gotten there with as much dirt on him as the rest of them.

    👿

  25. trixta says:

    Looky what I found over the internets. Another outrageous theory / conclusion about rape. And these researches are probably sympatico with left-wing ideology. Goes to show both sides have mysogynist idiots in their midst. This article quoted below is just as upsetting to me as idiot Akin’s comments “legitimate” rape. (He needs to resign NOW!!!!!) How does an article discussing research findings on the relation between pupil dilation and sexual orientation end up advancing an outrageous argument / conclusion about rape?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (The offending comments are in the second paragraph.)

    “In women, things are more complex, Savin-Williams said. Gay women show more pupil dilation to images of other women, similar to the pattern seen in straight men. But straight women dilate basically equally in response to erotic images of both sexes, despite reporting feelings of arousal for men and not women. [6 Gender Myths Busted]

    This doesn’t mean that all straight women are secretly bisexual, Savin-Williams warned, just that their subjective arousal doesn’t necessarily match their body’s arousal. Sex researchers aren’t sure why this happens. One theory is that because women have been at risk of being raped throughout history, they evolved to respond with lubrication to any sexual stimulus, no matter how unappealing. This idea holds that women who did so were less likely to experience trauma or infection after sexual assault, making it more likely that they would survive to pass on their genes.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/sexual-orientation-eyes-reveal-straight-gay_n_1740315.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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