Stop harshing my mellow!

I like JWS but sometimes he’s so goddamn depressing I’m glad he doesn’t work for the Suicide Hotline. I want to reach right through my monitor and slap him and shake him and scream “GET A FUCKING GRIP, JOHN! DON’T MAKE ME REVOKE YOUR MAN CARD!


Demoralized as Hell, The poll the media isn’t talking about edition

For the last two weeks we have been treated to the narrative that Barack Obama is surging at the polls, Mitt Romney is in trouble and unless there is a massive change in direction it is all over.

Simply put this is a lie.

Of all the polls you have seen, there is one poll that has gotten no attention, it is a poll that has been taken monthly, it is a poll that Doug Ross spotted and promoted on his site. It is the Rasmussen Poll of party identification.

I’m not gonna spoil it. Go over to Datechguy’s Blog and read it for yourself. I’ll give you a hint: It’s good news for Mitt Romney.

When you are done I want all you whiny Eeyores to knock off the negativity, calm down, sack-up and grow a pair. I ain’t gonna put up with a bunch of boo-hooin’ from now to November.

You have been warned.

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137 Responses to Stop harshing my mellow!

  1. OldCoastie says:

    WWTSBQ, indeed!

    There is no apparent reason for Romney to suddenly tank in the polls… no event, no major gaffe…

    Around here, no one is even talking about the election yet.

    We’ve certainly seen this tactic before.

    • Lulu says:

      Republicans are talking about voting. Republican leaners are talking about voting. Disgusted ex-Democrats are also talking about voting. And all of them are saying I cannot wait to vote this ass out of office. Whatever polling Romney has shows this dynamic and he can be fairly low key if that is the major dynamic in the race. Obamacrats are not saying they cannot wait to vote. They are spinning and making excuses. There is a very similar vibe as to when Bush II was leaving office. Everyone wanted to see the back of him. The press will have to continue to hunt down fools to quote with the personal popularity shmaltz. Obama’s popularity will continue to tank as he is seen more often as well as come up with enormous mistakes like his Mid-East policy and getting bitch slapped by China for threatening a trade war for re-election. He always goes up in favorability when he does what he does best- NOTHING.

      • Jadzia says:

        Can I have some of your friends, please? Because my Facebook feed is littered with nothing but sanctimonious “LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!!” posts, along with my personal favorite, the one that is going to leave me with a mouth full of tooth-nubs, the majestic photo of BO labeled “MY PRESIDENT.”

        On that last one, does that irritate you all as much as it irritates me? Yet I can’t figure out why.

        • gxm17 says:

          I only have a couple of Obama propagandists in my FB feed. And I have taken to telling them how full of shit they are. I expect to be unfriended any minute now and I couldn’t care less. I am seeing nowhere near the Obamagasmfest of 2008.

        • It’s smug, exclusive, toadyish, self-infantilizing, creepy, and weird?

        • elliesmom says:

          It kind of reminds me of my childhood when Big Brother Bob Emory’s show would come on at noon. It was a local kiddie show, and he would ask all of the kids to pour themselves a glass of milk. Then they’d show a portrait of Eisenhower, play “Hail to the Chief”, and kids all over the Boston area would lift their glasses to toast the president. By the time Kennedy took office I was in school so I don’t know if he got toasted.

        • If that’s the noise on your FB feed, the flack is hitting. Panic like that is an awareness of a pending loss. Are you fighting back? Hiding their post or temporarily unsubscribing is also an option if you just don’t want to hear it.

        • Good for you, gxm17. That’s the spirit. I’ve been unfriended twice in the last month because I refuse to let this noise go without saying something. If they feel like they can pollute the newsfeed with that shit, so can I.

        • foxyladi14 says:

          I unfriernd them and pooof they are gone. 😆

      • Lulu says:

        Sure! They are adults and they are mostly busy and disgusted. I am not on Facebook for various personal reasons, but I talk to a lot of people in person and for business. So does my significant other and we have never seen anything like this. People are very quiet except for one on one conversations and then they let rip. Even those who think Romney might be worse say at least it is a different kind of worse. It is carefully non-personal unlike with Bush or even when Clinton was in Monicagate with few broadsides to Obama on an individual level but a lot of revulsion with his administration and the Democrats in Congress and media especially. This is the 2010 election squared.

  2. Constance says:

    Donald Trump (always entertaining) was just on FOX morning news and said several things but the one that sticks out is “Obama is just an unlucky President, he also lacks talent but he is unlucky also and every thing he touches turns to…goes bad.” I think the “unlucky” description is something that could stick with not too smart voters who make up a lot of the people who are Obama believers.

  3. gxm17 says:

    Ya know, I can’t help but think that a big part of the Obamaganda Disinformation Network is that these folks can’t admit they were wrong. If they admit that Obama is a huge disappointment and failure then they also have to admit that they were wrong. And they just can’t bring themselves to do that. So deeper they dig.

    • Lulu says:

      In business it is the principal of “sunk costs”. It was not only a cultural decision but a business one also and they keep throwing money and effort at a dead horse. CNN has already fired one president (or something like that) but they have not addressed their institutional bias because it isn’t bad enough yet. When one of the network news divisions is completely scrapped and done away with all of them will freak out because Newsweek being sold for a buck wasn’t enough.

    • Constance says:

      True but perhaps they could say “Obama is just unlucky and we can’t put up with it any longer” That way they can stop making excuses and they don’t have to admit it is his fault.

    • Constance says:

      I am always struck with how vapid Obama voters seem. You aren’t going to be able to turn them by talking reality to them, they are stupid and consider it “good” to have faith in the glorious leader. So you have to provide a pathway for the stupid Obama faith voter to stay home or vote Romney…. “some people are just unlucky, we all know some people like that, and Obama is unlucky, gas prices are up, wages are down, unemployment is up, the ME is coming unglued, etc… and we can’t afford his bad luck anymore” I think that could catch on. I wouldn’t have Romney or Ryan say it but they should flood the conversation with that thought.

  4. yttik says:

    The polls, the media, the pundits, are all acting as if the 2010 election didn’t happen. R’s gained 63 seats and had tea parties all over the country. That’s enthusiasm, that’s voter turnout.

    If you listen to people’s attitudes, you can tell where the enthusiasm is. “I have to drag myself to the polls and vote for Obama because the other party is worse,” versus “the continued existence of our country depends on voting Obama out of office!”

  5. wmcb says:

    The party registration bears out what I’ve been saying for weeks.

    Think back to 2008. To the weeping, fainting, chanting, messianic hysteria. And realize that at the HEIGHT of that, at it’s apex, and with a big chunk of the demoralized depressed R’s sitting home, Obama managed a 7% win, and even smaller in swing states, some of which he barely won by 2 or 3%.

    Yes, the Obots are being loud and obnoxious. But you cannot TELL me there are the same number of them as 2008. I personally know 8 people who voted for him who will not be doing so in 2012. I have yet to meet a single person who is a new Obama voter. Many of the starry-eyed Obot young people I know have moved on, and likely won’t even vote.

    I have seen exactly one Obama sticker, and even here in TX they were everywhere 4 yrs ago.

    If even one in 15 of the 2008 O voters stay home, it is OVER. If even 1 in 15 of the Mitt voters is either a new voter or one who sat home last time, it is OVER. If any combination of the above happens ( one in 30 O voters lost, one in 30 new Mitt voters), it is OVER.

    I’m not saying Mitt has this in the bag. Anything could happen. But the polls are using models that VASTLY over estimate O turnout, and underestimate R turnout. I would not be at all surprised to see not only less of a D advantage than they are postulating, but an actual R advantage in turnout. And don’t even talk to me about Indies.

    • Constance says:

      Remember that Obama always held his weeping, fainting chanting messianic rallys during school hours. I remember my high school daughter and her friends going because “everyone” was and it was the place to be and see boys. The rallys were full of kids who couldn’t vote and didn’t care about anything but going somewhere besides school.

    • angienc says:

      In 2008 Obama “won” North Carlina by <i<less than one percent. Indiana too.

      And this year he couldn’t fill Bank of America stadium.

  6. wmcb says:

    Oh, and the pollsters know this. They fucking know it. They know that weighting samples with same “highly enthused D” turnout numbers from 2008 is bull. Some of them are using samples postulating HIGHER D turnout than 2008, and no gain in R turnout, which is so laughable it’s hysterical.

  7. wmcb says:

    If you look at the data Datechguy put up, registration advantage went from D +7 in 2008 to almost R+5 today.

    That’s a 12 point swing. In political terms, that’s a fucking earthquake and tsunami of a realignment.

    Yet crickets from the press, and pollsters ignoring it in their models.

  8. yttik says:

    Something else that influences elections is the intensity of the opposition. The media is focusing on Obama’s likability, favorability, etc, but the real story is that only 29% of people polled strongly approve of the way Obama is performing, versus 42% who strongly disapprove. When President Obama took office, 44% strongly approved, only 16% strongly disapproved. That “strong disapproval” is one of the things that motivates people to vote for change.

  9. fif says:

    Well here’s another question: historically, does this work? If they hammer away at his inevitability, does it depress voter turnout enough to make a difference? I just told my mother (a devoted mainstream media believer) about it, and she said, “Oh, they’re all saying that! And that Romney keeps sticking his foot in his mouth.” (ie: evidence of meme #2, it’s all about Romney’s gaffes to take the focus off of Obama’s profound ineptitude).

    Love the twitter exchange between the pollster and the Obamabot. How many of us experienced that exchange over the years? Name-calling, followed by a request for actual facts, followed by bluster, scoffing and more name-calling, but nary a factual rebuttal to be found.

  10. DandyTiger says:

    It’s clear Romney is winning. You can see the flow sweat. And the fact that they have to have bigger and bigger Dem sampling to get to the numbers they want is funny as hell. Statistically, you can’t really adjust those numbers by just sliding those Dem/Repub numbers and do the same slide of them to the O/R numbers. But hey, close enough until we have real polls. By my count Romney is between 2 and 10 points ahead both nationally and in many swing states.

    Here’s my take, I don’t think they’re propaganda campaign is working. I think a hint of that is the unprecedented numbers of people who aren’t answering polls. People are heads down and intent on voting the bum out. I can see all the signs of it here in VA.

    Sadly this is all the MSM/OFA campaign has going for them. Same old tricks as last time. I’m not sure people are wise to the tricks per se, but they’re just going to do what they’re going to do anyway, even if they think they’re the only ones doing it walking into the voting booth.

    • Constance says:

      So then it is very important for Republicans to make sure their folks vote their local ballot. While they are at it they will mark Romney.

    • wmcb says:

      I think a hint of that is the unprecedented numbers of people who aren’t answering polls. People are heads down and intent on voting the bum out.

      I agree. It’s a poor analogy, but I think about when I left my first marriage. I’m one of those people who will argue and be loud and rant and threaten and plead and complain, so long as I am undecided.

      You know how you know when you’ve angered me beyond any chance of your redeeming it? I go quiet. And deadly still. Icy calm. I don’t talk about it anymore, I won’t even respond to queries and questions – I just pack my bags.

      • angienc says:

        Ha! I’m the same way. If I’m yelling I actually still care and/or are willing to stay. Once I’m done though, I’m done.

        In my family they say don’t worry about the fire, it’s the ice that’s deadly.

      • Love this analogy. We got 3 phone calls from pollsters on Saturday and multiple hang-ups on Sunday. Hubby is in union. After what happened to union members during the 2008 primaries, we refuse to answer these calls. Many union members, who are pro-Romney, are afraid of being found out and harassed.

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  11. myiq2xu says:

    Today is OWS’ birthday!!!

    Let’s celebrate by taking a dump on a cop car!!

    (I asked RD if she was going to Zuccotti Park today but she ignored me.)

  12. tommy says:

    An Iranian foundation has reportedly increased the bounty for the death of Salman Rushdie, saying that if the British writer had previously been killed for blasphemy, an anti-Islam film currently enraging Muslims would never have been made. Iranian media quoted Hassan Sane’i, a cleric heading the 15 of Khordad Foundation, as saying in a statement the he was ‘adding another $500,000 to the reward for killing Rushdie’. With the increase, the foundation was now offering $3.3 million for the death of Rushdie, who since 1989 has been the target of an Iranian fatwa calling for his murder for allegedly blaspheming Islam in his book The Satanic Verses.

    • votermom says:

      Economic Stimulus, Muslim-style.

    • angienc says:

      Maybe Salman will finally decide to make a statement then — Hollywood, artists, authors have been strangely quiet about the “it’s the video!” meme. Greg Guttfeld even tweeted Salman asking him his thoughts on the filmmaker being taken in for questioning, etc. No response — the only mention Salman has made is a link to an article on Slate trying to reason with radical Islamists that you shouldn’t “allow” something like this video to inspire violence. Pfft.

    • wmcb says:

      I am so beyond caring whether I piss off my remaining Obot friends. I posted the above video with this:

      Disgusting. Where are all the free speech advocates? Where is the ACLU? Where are all the people who made a cause celebre out of that pornographer toad Larry Flynt, *rightly affirming* that offensive speech is the speech that most needs protecting? Why is there no massive outcry? Have they utterly and completely sold out their principles to protect the Obama administration from criticism?

      If you LOUDLY bleated about free speech during the Bush administration, and are sitting silent now, you know what you are? You’re a pom-pom waving hypocrite. That’s precisely what you are.

    • angienc says:

      Read this — it’s National Review & it’s a must read. This crap about the US caving in about blasphemy laws (only Islamic blasphemy, ‘natch) in the UN is scary & sickening. I can’t believe Hillary did this & I can’t believe the MSM didn’t report it:

      • gxm17 says:

        It’s a sad day in Mudville when all the support for free speech is coming from the right. I am thoroughly fucking depressed.

        • wmcb says:

          Yep. There are a few exceptions, Greenwald among them, but mostly crickets.

          This has been the biggest revelation to me about the left. The complete shallowness of their “principles” – from misogyny to race (calling R opponents gay slurs and house n*gger) to executive overreach to free speech to war.

          I always thought the principles were the thing, the politics and power were just a means to that end. It seems I got it backwards. Bleating about the principles are just the means to power.

        • BINGO. Talk about the world turning upside-down. Hegel would have field day!

  13. yttik says:

    This attempt to depress voters and convince them that President Obama is inevitable could backfire. I can picture Obots/Dems deciding it’s not even necessary for them to go to the polls, since Obama’s re-election is practically guaranteed.

  14. Honora says:

    I don’t understand why Fox news is cooking the data as well. Any ideas?

    • DandyTiger says:

      A lot of lopsided sampling is standard practice. You sample based on the last election of its kind. So in ’08, 5-10% more Dems showed up and voted, so that’s the way you sample for ’12.

      But some polls also study current trends and excitement levels and the like, and then adjust for that. Rasmussen for example is starting to do that and is oversampling Repubs by a couple of percentage points. That’s about right I think. If other polls did that, you’d see MSM types soil their trousers I’m afraid.

    • yttik says:

      I think all the pollsters are basically on the same page when it comes to the data they use, like how many Republicans they’re going to include in their surveys. Garbage in garbage out.

      LOL, also Fox news really is “the media,” they’re not completely off the wall like some people portray them. They march along with everybody else, except for their opinionators who sometimes speak in opposition to the current media meme. But besides that, they just repeat what they’re hearing.

    • angienc says:

      Simple: their ratings are higher when a Dem is in the White House.

      Follow the money.

  15. Honora says:

    This also sets up the ‘American voters are such racists’ analysis after Romney wins. Those lying American racist voters tricked the pollsters.

  16. DandyTiger says:

    Newsweek cover is raising some eyebrows. Ruh roh.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Calling on the new blasphemy tsar, Cromwell, to send in the troops and pick up the Newsweek people. You could be next.

    • gram cracker says:

      Ayaan Hirsi Ali is someone who knows first hand about how peaceful the religion of Islam is NOT. If I recall correctly she feels that Islam has not gone through the equivalent of a Protestant Reformation that would bring it out of its tribal backwardness and into the modern world. If not for the vast oil wealth of some Muslim based countries they would not have the means to be terrorists outside of their own tribal wars.

      Remember back in 2004

      “Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh, who made a controversial film about Islamic culture, was stabbed and shot dead in Amsterdam.

      Van Gogh, 47, had received death threats after his film Submission was shown on Dutch TV.

      It portrayed violence against women in Islamic societies.

      The film was made with liberal Dutch politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali refugee who fled an arranged marriage.

      Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been under police protection since the film was aired. She has also received death threats and has renounced the Islamic faith.”

      • DandyTiger says:

        Now that you mention the reformation, that reminds me of the PUMA movement. It was first a protest against the corruption of the party and their indulgences and their selection of a leader. Then, like the reformation, it broke up into many smaller factions.

    • I love that picture.

      My visceral reaction is, “Oh go stuff it ya fucken morons.”

      • wmcb says:

        Dems are scrambling hard to make asinine equivalencies. “Well, they didn’t do a cover w Christian Rage after the abortion doctor was killed!”

        Stuff it, morons. See, here’s the difference: that was the isolated act of one man, not incident after incident after incident of violence and terror spread throughout an entire society. And because we live in a civilized culture, he was immediately dealt with. There were no mobs of Christians in the streets in 18 countries burning shit and holding up his picture as if he were the martyr. The priests and pastors of the world didn’t take to the airwaves and say that all good Christians ought to do what he had done.

        Fuck you and your false equivalencies. The Church has many, many problems. Systemically encouraging and/or quietly ignoring decades of ongoing murder sprees by their parishioners is not one of them.

  17. Let me just preface this with the statement that I love John Smart to death. But it’s been my opinion for a while that he wants to see a knock down, brawl out fight between Obama and Romney using the points that Hillary didn’t, as a vindication for his POV and his loss in 2008.

    I’ve been telling him for months that he’s not going to see that kind of fight. There are several reasons: 1) It’s not in Romney’s character and his character is part of his campaign selling point, 2) It wouldn’t help to mention stuff like Rev. Wright, Obama’s childhood in Indonesia, his college transcripts, etc; that’s because the broad middle is already convinced that’s dirty GOP politics and they would hear the same gray discomforting noise they heard in the 90s with the constant griping about Clinton, 3) It would hurt Romney’s campaign for the other two reasons.

    Finally, on point #4, it would poison his presidency from the get go. It”s not just about winning for Romney; it never has been. It’s about winning and doing a great job as president, thus rebranding thew GOP. He’s got his eyes on bigger things that the dipshit from Chicago, and he’s confident his plan can bring down the dipshit. And if he’s delivered before in the big ways he has, who are we minions out here to be calling into question his campaign strategy along with the press? There will be plenty of time for crowing should he lose. Until then, such rhetoric is recklessly contributing to the noise machine trying to bring Romney down.

    • gxm17 says:

      I agree in that it’s not Romney’s style. That’s not how he wins. Even though I’m not voting for him, I’ve found his campaign strategy to be very interesting to watch. And what the Obamaganda Disinformation Network does not realize is that they are playing to his tactical strengths.

    • yttik says:

      I agree!

      LOL, who wouldn’t like to see a knock down, drag out fight, a little vindication, some justice for a change?? Ain’t going to happen.

      People said this is going to be the dirtiest campaign in history, hold on to your hats, almost in gleeful anticipation. I don’t think so, I think it’s going to be fairly quiet and fairly close. R’s are usually the silent majority, with an emphasis on silent. One thing I took away from the Dem convention was all the shrieking and screaming. Being loud doesn’t translate into winning, it just means you’re noisy. If being noisy made you win, our high school football team wouldn’t keep losing by double digits.

      • angienc says:

        As the great Clint Eastwood said at the RNC convention — “There’s a lot of us conservatives. We just don’t hot dog it.”

        And people are *still* trying to insist Clint was ineffective/a negative for Romney. Bwhahahaha! They’ll never get it.

    • DM says:

      You are 100% right Lola. Obama is at his best when he’s in the mud. Today, Obama doesn’t have anything to hit Romney with, so Obama is sending cue’s to the media to hit Romney with stuff that won’t work (inevitability, bad campaign, not fit to be president, etc.) It didn’t work with Hillary and it won’t work with Romney. Hillary had to deal with dirty politics in caucuses and her own party. The voters will decide this election.

      I’m predicting a Romney win.

      • kanaughty says:

        the thing is ob is trying two tactics which didn’t work against hillary or palin and infact made voters come out more if anything for the opposite candidate than ob…

        meme 1, they are trying to say ob is inevitable. once they started to do this against hillary, hillary kept winning more and more votes and states. hillary won states she shouldn’t have won and even won all the way up until puerto rico. so this meme made hillary voters prove ob’s team wrong and actually incited more votes to come out against ob. did ob win any states he wasn’t supposed to win after iowa? no he didn’t, only hillary did that 🙂

        meme 2, mitt is rich so you should hate him. this is sort of the same thing that happened with sarah palin how they were saying she was stupid because she went to a state school. well, ob has a way of insulting a lot of people when he insults other candidates. he doesn’t even know he is doing it, that is the sad part. so basically anyone who is rich or supposedly not struggling or seen as rich are made enemies not only romney, so this can turn off any people who are doing okay from voting for ob the way this can turn off any state school voters from voting for ob because supposedly they are all stupid. he turned off any hillary voters by calling them bitter clingers etc. has ob actually ever gained any voters he didn’t already have? no, only the opposite candidates did that because ob looked down on entire voter blocks of people. because of this whole nentenyahu thing he could be possibly turning up his nose against any american jews with ties to israel for instance.

        this is my take on the situation. none of this works and infact it works against ob because he ends up looking out of touch, insulting to lay people, arrogant, and a like a child who is throwing a fit.

        • DM says:

          Obama has a great ability to piss people off and in the end is counterproductive. One of those tactics was the use of the race card. It pissed me off so much, that I swore in 2008 I’d never vote for him. And I keep my word. Good points.

  18. myiq2xu says:

    They have really looooonnnnnng winters in Alaska.

    • carol haka says:

      Drones Happen! 👿 Do you think the ACLU or Hollywood crowd would have a problem if they knew that is really Bill Maher? Think about it – he’s short enough, is stylishly dressed and is being chauffer driven! 👿

  19. carol haka says:

    Thanks. I already have 2 pair I grew after being told Hillary was going to be President and then McCain/Palin were sure to win. Obviously all that extra testosterone has only succeeded in causing the dark beard I now sport! 👿

  20. jeffhas says:

    These polls are going to have to come into realistic alignement within a few weeks of the election date – but until then, this seems to be all about depressing the opposition.

    I still feel like Romney is holding his powder – waiting until the last 2-4- weeks to decimate the guy with negative ads, etc…. I think he will go as short a timeline as possible so he can take advantage of a momentum that would be impossible to stop on Nov 6th.

    He has proven that he is not afraid to fight with negative ads if he needs to. The guy is going to throw a punch, and the Obama team knows it, they are just trying to flush Romney out now so he has to expend resources and muffle any future momentum he might get.

    I could be completely wrong, and the media version and polling data could all be accurate – and I’m concerned for sure… but as long as Rasmussen shows him ahead or within 2-3 points, I feel like Romney is just waiting, sensing the timing out better than anyone else.

    I’m curious to see the comparable burn rates of the two campaigns.

    • wmcb says:

      I agree that he is holding his fire to some extent, but one thing not getting mentioned in the clamor for more hardhitting ads is this:

      A big chunk of Mitt’s money is being spent in swing states quietly building a formidable ground game. He has more offices, workers, and doorknockers and GOTV folks ready to go than any R campaign I’ve ever seen.

    • kanaughty says:

      just remember, they were doing this sort of thing in 2010, and guess what it ended up that they were all delusional. i could feel even before that vote that the media and people like nancy pelosi were wrong, but they wanted to put doubt out there so that the tea party folks would not vote. but guess what, they did and nancy and the media were so wrong it is crazy how wrong they were. but you could feel it even in maryland a blue state that the tea party had a lot of power and were going to vote out a lot of incumbants. then i moved to arkansas and they voted out our democrat senator here in arkansas. i mean i see and feel the same power of the vote going against ob no matter what the media is trying to feed to us. i don’t know anyone who didn’t vote for ob last time who is voting for him now. the only people i know are voting for him are those who already did. he hasn’t gained any votes is what i am seeing. and so all mitt has to do is gain some votes from people who sat out last time and he can win because i think ob will have less votes unless they cheat. i just don’t see the media as being truthful at all in the feeling around me that i see. i have seen no ob signs either on arkansas or texas side of the border at all!!! i don’t see the enthusiasm that there was last time.

    • djmm says:

      He can’t wait that long — there will be mail in ballots and people who vote early.


    • bluestate says:

      i’ve been thinking this as well. hopefully it’s not just wishful thinking.

  21. HELENK says:


    do you think we can get our government to uphold it????

  22. angienc says:

    Look, it’s been apparent for a long time now that Obama can’t run on his record so his only hope to win was destroy Romney over the summer when he didn’t have the $$ to fight back AND get his base out in huge numbers while depressing turnout on the other side so that he could keep the election within “cheating margin.” IOW, the only way Obama can win is cheating & the only way to do that is to keep the race close.

    Even the ridiculously skewed polls prove the “destroy Romney” phase over the summer didn’t work. Hence the hysteria in the MSM and the +13 D CBS poll over registered voters. Anyone who buys into the demoralization phase needs to step away from the news, the computer, etc. & go for a walk. You aren’t looking at the right things: don’t look at what the MSM tells you; look at what Obama actually does. His actions show he’s still trying to shore up his base, otherwise he wouldn’t have gone on the Pimp with a Limp show on 9//11. His campaign events are in extremely liberal areas. He’s giving interviews with Vanity Fair magazine & David Letterman, but not taking questions from the WH press corp.

    If that fails & you’re still worried about the polls ask yourself what happened in the 2010 midterms? Wasn’t every Dem, every single person in the MSM & all the polls telling us that there was no way the Dems were losing the House? Pelosi laughed & laughed at the suggestion saying she was going to be Speaker for as long as she wanted because there was going to be a “permanent Dem majority” and people wondered at what “inside info” she had. Any of this sound familiar?

    If 2010 isn’t fresh enough in your memory, how about this: who’s the governor of WI right now?

    Myiq –thanks for the link to datachguy — very cool stuff!

    • angienc says:


    • angienc says:

      Here’s another example — Obama won NM by +15 in 2008; RCP has Obama up +10. Yet, a local poll has Obama at +5 — Obama is having to go to NEW MEXICO! to campaign.

      Obama’s map is the one closing up — the trend favors Romney.

    • kanaughty says:

      great assessment angienc

    • westcoaster says:

      and Romney was brave enough to go to Obot land with Stephanopolous on ABC Sept. 13 and reach out for Democrats and Independents, instead of worrying about his base.

      • angienc says:

        And he stood there — like a man — at his press conference on Sept. 12th, re-affirmed his position that apologizing to terrorists for the First Amendment is never the right course & then took questions from the press.

        Obama, OTOH, slunk out (with Hillary practically holding his hand*) into the Rose Garden, read a statement that was more eulogy for Ambassador Stevens than explanation of the events that had transpired in Libya (no mention of Egypt whatsoever) and didn’t take a single question from the press. He then jetted off to Vegas.

        *At the “homecoming” for those 4 poor dead men that Friday, which Obama disgracefully used as a photo op, Hillary actually *did* hold his hand.

    • Dang! My comment nested above. Bad internet usage day. Four words: Recall Gov Walker in WI. From what the media said, the recall was in the bag. Then he won overwhelmingly; increased support from college-educated persons. People are still shaking their heads here in disbelief.

  23. DM says:

    From my post last night:

    October 27, 1980, Gallup Poll measured the following:
    Carter, 45%
    Reagan, 39%
    Anderson, 9%
    Reagan lagged 6%! What happened? All the undecideds went to Reagan who also took a few voters from Anderson, and I guess a few from Carter or his voters didn’t show up to vote because Carter’s final percent was 43% on November 2.

    • DM says:

      No poll is perfect. Knowing how to read polls is very important. I don’t see anything in the current polls that signal an Obama win or a Romney loss.

  24. DM says:

    Does anyone here believe, after watching Obama in 2008 that he will prepare for the debates? Not a chance. It’s not in his DNA to do the kind of preparation that Romney is doing.

    Romney didn’t become president in 2008 because he didn’t have a chance. This is 2012 and it’s Romney vs Obama. I’ll bet on Romney.

  25. kanaughty says:

    a couple of headlines at rasmussen:

    72% Put Freedom of Speech Ahead of Not Offending Other Cultures
    53% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law

    these headlines are at:

  26. myiq2xu says:

    Jesse Ventura on The View. He’s starting to resemble the Crypt Keeper.

  27. DM says:

    So at one point right after the convention, Gallup measured Obama had a 7 point lead. For two days, Obama has held a 3 point lead. So what’s the trend? That’s what matters. People are already forgetting that great Bill Clinton speech and are filling their gas tank and murmuring to themselves: “s.o.b.” 🙂

  28. yttik says:

    LOL, Intrade has Obama’s chances at 66.6 today.

  29. wmcb says:

  30. tommy says:

    According to Rasmussen R-47, O-45. Very close indeed. And as per Politico, NYT defends Maureen Dowds use of anti-semitic imagery. Hmm…..the Progs keep digging for imaginary dog-whistles on the Right, but are indignant when the Right does the same. lol

    • DM says:

      My teen children used to do that, but they outgrew the habit when they got a real job. I guess Obama thinks he still needs to fool mom and dad.

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