I can’t believe I’m posting this


The last time I posted anything about Ann Coulter the reaction was so negative I had to pull my post. It was several years ago and I won’t repeat what I wrote back then but let’s just say I was not very kind to Ms. Coulter.

But I gotta give her props for going into the lion’s den on this one. She was outnumbered four or five to one and held her own. I’m not saying I agree with her, I’m just saying I was impressed with her courage.

I do want to take exception with something Whoopi Goldberg said. Right out the gate she asked Coulter “Tell me how much you know about being black.

Black people do not own the race issue. They are not the sole arbiters of what is and is not racist. Yes, they have a unique perspective and they are entitled to their opinions.

I could easily turn it around and ask Whoopi “How much you know about being white?” The question is just as valid and just as ridiculous.

I know quite a bit about being me. I can tell you one man’s perspective of what it is like being a 52 year old straight white male in the United States. But I can’t tell you what it is like to be anyone else. Each of us has a unique perspective.

What Whoopi was trying to do was delegitimize Coulter’s point of view. That’s different from disagreeing with her conclusions. It’s one thing when a lawyer is dismissive of a non-lawyer’s legal opinions (or any expert vs. layperson) but other peoples’ thoughts and feelings are topics where none of us is an expert.

I know how I think and feel about the issue. You know how you think and feel. You can’t tell me how I feel and I can’t tell you how you think.

During Barack Obama’s Greatestest Speech On Race EVAH!™ he talked about having a national conversation on race. I’m all for it, because so far all we’ve been getting is a lecture.



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86 Responses to I can’t believe I’m posting this

  1. myiq2xu says:

    I really, really hate The View.

    • you read my mind myiq. That’s just what I wanted to shout at Whoopi myself. I’m so tired of being told that any opinion I have about race is illegitimate because I am white. That’s stupid. you’re right—–no conversation is welcome.

      • myiq2xu says:

        There was a time when civil rights advocates did not need to read minds. You can point at segregation and say “This is wrong.” But you can’t point at opposition to welfare and say “This is racism.”

        • oh well, like you said. How can you have a conversation when only one side is allowed to talk? I’m starting to agree with the people who say that electing the first black president hasn’t advanced race relations at all. All it’s done is release pent up anger and brought out the worst in us….

          I had someone on my blog call me a dried up old white woman the other day. Even though it might be true 🙂 I didn’t like what followed and that is she said that soon there will be more of them than there are of you and when that happens, we’re coming after you. That’s progress?

      • mcnorman says:

        Well, I hear that shit and then the blast back comes in my first language, espanol. That usually shuts down the entire busload.

      • trixta says:

        Perhaps Whoopi is a racist ’cause all of her boyfriends have been white.

    • mcnorman says:

      I get all warm and fuzzy when I hear others say the same thing. 😀

  2. DandyTiger says:

    If you said I either had to watch the view or gouge my eyes out with my computer mouse, I’d have to think long and hard. That would be a tough call.

  3. HELENK says:

    neither Anne Coulter or Whoopie Goldberg would ever make my like list.
    The color issue has become like a broken record. Your pickin on me because I’m black. The excuse for not being all you can be has worn out.

    Anne Coulter makes a living off being controversial. I will never forget or forgive her comments to the 9-11 families

    Both have a point of view. Frankly I do not like either one. So I just do not watch either one

    • myiq2xu says:

      Ann Coulter and Bill Maher are soulmates. They make their livings saying outrageous things.

    • cj says:

      She’s better on the radio. The only station my car radio picks up is a RW one & if they’re not talking about “value” issues, sometimes I’ll listen just to hear a conservative point of view.

      Anyway, Coulter was a guest on Dennis Prager’s show & she was very good. None of the over-the-top theatrics, just a pretty straight forward discussion of her premise that white guilt generally made things worse, which she backed up with historical evidence. I was impressed, to tell you the truth.

      • DeniseVB says:

        Probably because she had a real interviewer which I can’t say about any of the View ladies. Ann’s a smart woman and I do love it when she smacks down Bill O’Reilly with facts and makes him blubber 😀

  4. DandyTiger says:

    Does Whoopi mean black black, or just black?

  5. elliesmom says:

    I never watch the View except in clips like this one, and I’m not a Coulter fan, either. But she’s right about one thing – the Republicans have allowed the Democrats to steal their history when it comes to blacks and women. Republicans led the way in registering blacks to vote and in electing them to public office, and the Republicans were the first to include the ERA in their party platform. When one brings that up, the argument is always made that the kind of people who used to be Republicans are Democrats now so the Democrats should get the credit. Horsepuckey.

  6. yttik says:

    “Tell me how much you know about being black.“

    Well, if Ann Coulter was a white LIBERAL, the answer would be, “everything bi&tch, and if you don’t like it you’re an oreo cookie, an anchor baby, and a race traitor! Now STFU and be grateful we gave you an Obamaphone!”

    The truth is, white liberals define what it means to be black in this country and if you so much as whisper that you’d like to define it for yourself, they will unleash the hounds of hell on you.

    • cj says:

      ^^^ this ^^^

    • carol haka says:

      Whoopi – I want reparations from about 2012 years ago and who gets to pay for my main man being hung from a cross? Throw in some more cash for taking my family’s oil lands in Oklahoma. I should be a fucking Princess! Better yet, I’ll just try to move forward. 👿

    • Black&Right says:

      THANK YOU!! I am so tired of self important self appointed gatekeepers of authentic blackness telling me what I should and should not do. The strangest thing ever is being called an “Uncle Tom” by a black AND white liberal. They both are awful but the white liberal telling ME what to think and do is doubly weird.

  7. DM says:

    Ann Coulter is reminding who were for apartheid in this country. I don’t agree with Ann on most issues, but her history is correct.

  8. NoEmptySuits says:

    myiq: I do hope you’ll do a post on the arrest of the maker of the anti-Islam video. We need a criminal defense attorney’s sharp eye on it. Am I correct in assuming that prosecutorial discretion could’ve been exercised to avoid arresting him for a parole/probation violation?

  9. myiq2xu says:

    The psychohistorical roots of the American “Tea Party” Movement.

    Abstract

    Extreme resistance to governmental taxation and authority is derived, according to Freud’s theory of anal characterology, from premature and harshly coercive toilet training, in which a child is forced unfairly and against its will to surrender the products of his eliminations (which represent money, among other things, in the unconscious) to parental authority. Among these individuals anal eroticism plays a significant role in the psychogenesis of paranoia and conspiracy theorizing, which may represent a defense mechanism erected against repressed fears of passive submission.

    You can’t make this shit up.

  10. leslie says:

    I saw this last week (I think) and I don’t remember where. It fits here.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Wow, that NY guest you had has sucked up the Obama kool-aid and just spewed lies straight from their talking points. Sad of course. But it goes to show how effective a destructive lie based campaign can be.

      • It was a good show. I couldn’t believe Marc Rubin. Another one rejoins the progressive borg. He may be chomping at the bit to spank his fantasy of what the right is these days, but there rare more of us chomping at the bit to spanks Obama and Obamacrats. Guaranteed.

  11. yttik says:

    Here’s what it’s like to be black in America and resisting liberal attempts to define you:

    Mia Love under racial attack

    http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Mia-Love-under-racial-attack/JetvkQNJOEm9jcOFS8COWg.cspx?rss=20

  12. carol haka says:

    Whoops Guiliani just declared Libya a cover up!

  13. Constance says:

    OK. I will talk about race. I am sick of hearing about how black people were slaves to generic white people 200 years ago. I come from a white trash family. No blacks were ever slaves to my family. My first kinsman came to this country against his will in the hold of a ship as an indentured servant who was a Scots political prisoner of the English. The ruling class of white people in colonial America oppressed many different groups of people, whites, blacks, native Americans basically anyone they could oppress. They also carried out genocide on Native Americans. I don’t feel guilty about this because I didn’t take part in it and neither did my relatives. I am sick of getting tarred with the same brush with the ruling class whites.

    So that was then and this is now. We can’t change the past, you aren’t going to make me feel guilty about something I didn’t participate in but you do make me mad by insinuating I should feel guilty. Why don’t we all try to move forward together? That is something we might accomplish.

  14. carol haka says:

    Ann Coulter will be on Hannity in just a minute.

  15. HELENK says:

    #Breaking Nakoula Basseley Nakoula reveals his real name as Mark Youseff during hearing: http://t.co/JtMHASTD

  16. angienc says:

    I especially liked when Ann said “If you read Chapter 14 of my book . . .” and Whoopi cuts her off with “I don’t need to read your book! My grandmother told me stories.”

    While I’m sure Whoopi’s grandmother gave her an invaluable first-person account of her OWN perspective/participation of the civil rights movement, how in the hell does that make Whoopi an authority on the civil rights movement & how would it hurt her to read someone 3rd party’s take on it?

    Willful ignorance lest she have to start questioning her perspective.

  17. DM says:

    Racial discussions is a waste of time, imho. First, there are plenty of whites who still believe the inferiority of the Blacks simply because of the color of their skin. Second, the whites in this country want to forget the damage done to the Blacks for 300 (1654-1964) years, and believe that 60 years of a different history will change the message sent to a group of people that they were inferior and therefore need to be separate and cannot achieve much because of who they are, very demeaning stuff. I don’t care how much the doors open for a person, if he believes that he cannot go through that door, it doesn’t matter what the truth is. Having said all that, I’m not in any way defending the Blacks view of themselves. In time, things will change, but it will take time. And I will end my rant with this:

    Being Black is not a disability. Nobody can change how they see themselves, only they can do that. To see their potential, they need to see good role models, unfortunately Obama is not a good model. Mia Love is.

  18. HELENK says:

    angie

    Sununu is going to be on Greta tonight

  19. insanelysane says:

    My first reaction after watching the video of View was the complete feeling of having stepped thru the looking glass.

    8 years ago in the low point of the Bush re-election, I had a white hot disdain for (m)Ann Coulter and all Republican reptiles, and now after the complete opening of my eyes in 08, I actually get where Ann is coming from.

    Does this mean I have made a complete turning the worm inside out? or have I always been a closed minded BOT? Maybe Ann has changed? No. She’s still outrageous but smart and has the level of detail that bewilders her opposition.
    I never watch the view… and now, aside from Ann, I know why.
    Whoopie is a dunce. Barbara still spouting the most predicable nonsense.

    • DeniseVB says:

      Your journey is similiar to mine 😀 Though I find myself “saner” on this side. Was never a View watcher even then, I did and still do find it annoying.

  20. yttik says:

    LOL! This is cracking me up tonight.

    We Are Dumb

  21. DM says:

    Best quote I’ve read about Obama:
    “I don’t know if Obama is a masturbater, but he certainly is a jerk off.” Larry Johnson

  22. HELENK says:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/27/report-u-s-troops-in-afghanistan-told-no-more-close-air-support/

    has our government gone completely crazy???

    no air support for our military in afghanistan

    no security for our ambassadors

    no wonder the US arabs support him overwhelmingly

  23. swanspirit says:

  24. DM says:

    We know that the polls have a skewed sample that helps the Democrats, but as I said before, over time, the trend is what matters. I also said that bigger margin between Obama and Romney is due to Romney dropping in the polls, while Obama is remaining constant. It’s the same that happened to Carter in the 1980 election. That awful Reuters-Ipsos poll confirms my point:

    Sep Obama Romney
    26 49 43
    25 49 42
    24 49 43
    20 48 43
    19 48 43
    18 47 43
    17 48 43
    13 48 41

    Voters are not being sold on Obama. They just went into the I will wait for more information. Romney is trending up.

  25. HELENK says:

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PALIN_LAWSUIT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-27-21-45-57

    activist law suit against Sarah Palin thrown out of court

    my God if running for office brings out this many crazies, no wonder most people do not want to run

  26. Glennmcgahee says:

    And now we have an anonymous source from the administration explaining that they knew all along it was a terrorist attack but pretended to the world it was the film protest so the terrorists wouldn’t know what we were thinking….. ( just somebody forgot to tell Susan Rice I guess)
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/source-u-responded-benghazi-attack-terrorism-day-one-215656818–election.html

    • angienc says:

      I’ve been following this — WTF? She could have been admitted to the MA on motion very easily:

      http://barreciprocity.com/massachusetts-bar-reciprocity/

      Why didn’t she just file the motion?

      Meanwhile, after 9 years of being an admitted & practicing attorney in LA, when I moved to NC in 2005 after Katrina, I had to take a job as a paralegal for a year so I could study for, take & be admitted to the NC Bar (LA being a civil law jurisdiction doesn’t receive reciprocity with most of the other states, including NC — I of course had to study the common law stuff plus refresh myself on stuff I hadn’t been actively practicing for the previous 9 years). If I had to do all that before practicing in NC, she sure as hell should have taken the trouble to FILE A FUCKING MOTION.

      She knew better & obviously figured the rules didn’t apply to her. If we had a free & fair press, she’d get not one vote outside of immediate family.

      Of course, if we had a free & fair press, Obama would be polling in the 20s.

  27. angienc says:

    BTW — I just found out that our lying & incompetent UN Ambassador Susan Rice did NOT attend Netanyahu’s address to the UN today (an envoy was there but no high ranking official). Damn — this country’s official position towards Israel is now: “We just don’t give a fuck,”

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