How do you measure enthusiasm?

Check out the line of people waiting in the rain to see Mitt Romney and tell me he’s losing Ohio by ten points.

Bonus footage: Heavily outnumbered protesters getting paid to chant “We are the 99%” in the rain.

(Via DaTechGuy)

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65 Responses to How do you measure enthusiasm?

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Angie tweeted the link.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    She tweeted this one too:

    • angienc says:

      I had no idea Pat Caddell had gone rouge like this — he’s a former Dem pollster, but man he doesn’t hold back on either party (he calls the Dems the “corrupt party” and the Reps. the “stupid party” — I can’t say he’s totally wrong about that). I also understand his anger over what has happened with the Libya cover up –I have been enraged from the moment I saw those photos of that poor man Ambassador Chris Stevens being dragged through the streets like that, Obama hop on a plane to Vegas & the press turn around & attack Romney for his timing in standing up for the First Amendment.

      However, I do think his anger goes too far in trying to pin blame on the Romney campaign — I wrote in the other thread, Romney *has* pushed back against the press, but he has done it in polite, subtle ways, not in the way Caddell seems to want him to (i.e., hair on fire). If Romney hadn’t continued to talk about Libya at rallies and in interviews saying things like “Why isn’t the administration calling it a terrorist attack” — even in the face of attacks by the MSM & people like Noonan saying things like “Romney isn’t doing himself any favors talking about foreign policy” (as if that could still be considered Obama’s forte somehow) — we would *not* be where we are now with the administration finally admitting it was a terrorist attack.

      A full frontal assault is not the *only* kind of battle tactic — and if Romney had pursued that course — as Caddell seems to suggest he should — he would have been labeled a “whiner.” I’m not saying Romney is running a perfect campaign, but he definitely cannot win by complaining about the press — look how well that tack worked for Newt. Look at what happened when Romney said plainly, in a measured tone, that Obama allowing his staff to imply he was a “felon” was “beneath the office of the presidency” and that he was “owed an apology” — he was labeled a WATB in the MSM, with anchors like Meygen Kelly mocking him! Caddell admits the MSM is at the most corrupt he has ever seen in its protection of Obama (they abetted in his covering up his responsibility for the death of 4 Americans in Libya by beating up on Romney for the love of fuck!) & somehow thinks that Romney stating “don’t believe the MSM” would magically help him.

  3. fif says:

    Apparently MSNBC is so desperate they are pushing a story that the crowd was chanting “RYAN! RYAN! RYAN!” and Romney interrupted to ask them to shout his name, making him look insecure and vain. What actually happened, according to people that were there, is that the crowd was shouting, “ROMNEY! ROMNEY! ROMNEY!” and he asked them to please include his running mate, and give him his due, so they shouted, “RYAN!”

    The nasty, sophomoric cravenness these ‘journalists’ is bottomless.

    • fif says:

      oops, just saw this up top–can’t keep up with you guys.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Sometimes we can’t keep up with us either.

        Some days these threads are just filled with people posting links and videos from all over.

        • myiq2xu says:

          That’s one of the reasons I keep posting open threads.

          By the time I find a story and turn it into a post someone else has posted the link and people are already discussing it.

    • angienc says:

      Did you see that moron Rachel Maddow with the Romney “airplane window” story — she ran the clip first, where it is apparent he was joking (not that funny, maybe, but could have been due to nerves about the danger Ann was in, and was clearly a JOKE) and then gets all sanctimonious on how stupid Romney is — as IF a man who made millions in private equity, has traveled around the world, speaks perfect French and adequate Spanish, ran one of the most successful (and profitable) Olympic games in history, and was able to work with an 87% Dem state congress to pass balanced budgets in MA is too stupid to know why you can’t open windows on airplanes. Really, I don’t want to even post a link to it, but Maddow’s own stupidity is so unbelievably mock worthy, I will:

      Fucking Obama.

    • DeniseVB says:

      I watched the event *live* when Fox cut over to it the other day and it was sweet. Ryan’s intro to Romney led to the Romney, Romney chant, and Mitt playfully asked the crowd how about Romney! Ryan!, Romney! Ryan!

      So bizarre that NBC would tweak something as silly as that.

      • angienc says:

        OMFG! I just saw the post about this on AoSHQ — it has the video of MSNBC & the caller who was at the rally who BUSTS MSNBC. As Ace points out — not the first time NBC has been caught editing clips to suit their narrative (Zimmerman 911 call).
        Also there is a clip of how the effect/trick of what your eyes see on what your ears hear is a must see! Everybody, go read this post & watch the clips — Amazing!

  4. carol haka says:

    I wish they hadn’t shown the KKK in line. 🙂 I remember Scarborough talking about his Mother and relatives lining up in the early hours of the morning and standing in pouring rain for hours to see Sarah Palin. 👿 GO ROMNEY, I can’t take another day of Hussein!

  5. yttik says:

    LOL, somebody should call the mainstream media and tell them this would be a good time to conduct their polls. Hurry up and start calling, none of the Romney supporters are at home!

  6. HELENK says:

    media manipulates polling for democrats since 1980

    I feel kind of stupid because during those years I was a democrat and believed the media

    • angienc says:

      I sometimes feel like that too Helen, but I remind myself (1) I don’t think the press was *ever* quite as bad as they are now — really, covering up the murder of 4 US citizens in Libya? They would have *never* done that before Obama, I don’t care who the POTUS was; and (2) we didn’t have the new media (internet, etc) then to expose the lies.

  7. HELENK says:

    way off topic

    the temporary blind referee that made the bad call of a lifetime in football is a vice president of a bank

  8. DeniseVB says:

    Why I live for the car chases on Fox. Some dude just got out of the car and shot himself in the head. Shep Smith is devastated we had to see that. These are on time delay he explained, but apparently not this time. He’s going to cover this in full on his 7pm show.

    • angienc says:

      Isn’t that a fascinating clip? I knew vaguely people could mishear things based on visual stimulus, but I had never heard of the McGurk Effect per se or had it explained so clearly like this.

    • HELENK says:

      so what happens to lip readers with this effect???

      • angienc says:

        Lip readers will *only* see “FAA” in the left hand clip despite being told he is saying “BAA” — I could only hear “baa” after I was told & I even closed my eyes to “check” that I wasn’t being fooled.

  9. HELENK says:

    ex Navy SEAL to backtrack

    SEALS were not bumps in the road

  10. Mary says:

    Read this morning that the Obama demonstrators in Cleveland, Ohio (outside Romney rally) admitted they were being paid $11.00 an hour by SEIU.


    • britgirls says:

      So … wait. That was the Bedford, Ohio rally? The same one with the Obamaphone lady. Getting paid $11 an hour and the promise of a free phone. Seriously??? The only jobs Obama has created are to get himself re-elected. Nice …

  11. myiq2xu says:

    This is depressing:

    first, I am not defending Obama or his administration.The ACLU has already said Obama’s record on civil liberties is, in their words, “disgusting” and it is. No better than Bush and in some ways worse.

    But to answer your question, the Republicans and the far right are worse on every issue. First they reek of hypocrisy. They talk about keeping the government out of people’s lives when it comes to healthcare but want to force women to take unwanted pregnancies to term, have passed laws requiring unncessary vaginal ultra sounds in some states before a woman can get an abortion and would do away with most civil liberties in the name of national security if they could.

    Economically, you can fault Obama for not doing as much as he could and for being dishonest, spineless and a whole lot of other things but the economic problems in the country are ALL 100% the fault of Republicans and Bush and their policeis between 2000-2008. Evertyhing they did which was all based on their failed ideology turned out catastrophic for the country. I could go on and on including Romney’s decision to pander to the extreme right, and the Tea Party whose ideas about America have nothing to do with anything truly American but are more facist than democratic. They are part of the problem and slapping them down and having the country reject them in a big way in this election both for the White House and the congress is really the first step in solving the problems, first to give Obama some much needed backbone and to put an end to Republican obstructionism.

    Marc Rubin was an original PUMA. A few months ago he was convinced of the need to defeat Barack Obama.

    • Erica says:

      There is no way to give Obama a backbone, no way at all.

      (I’m a doctor, and I approve this message)

    • wmcb says:

      It always amazes me that the group clamoring the loudest for the LEAST govt control is continually labeled fascist by the left. If the Teaparty has a fault, to me, it’s that I’d nudge them toward a bit more govt involvement. The socons have a few social bugaboos where they are intrusive, but overall, no. And they are a minority.

      The evidence is overwhelming. In today’s reality, it is the Left who are the MOST authoritarian, followed by the establishment GOP, followed by the Teaparty, with pure libertarians bring up the far end of the “little to no govt” spectrum short of anarchy.

      Sorry, but the ones pushing for massive state control over EVERYTHING (so long as the proper folks are in charge) is the Left. That’s fascist. You can say the Teaparty wants too *little* govt. But calling them controlling Statists is just outright denial of reality.

    • wmcb says:

      Also, to say that ALL!! 100%%%!!!!! of our economic problems were Bush is just revisionism and lazy tribal nonsense. Yes, he caused a lot. So did the Dem majority congress from 2006 to 2010. And the current president and congress have done zippo to fix it, andnhave made it worse.

      Marc’s entire argument there boils down to a) abortion – a valid point if that’s your thing, and b) ZOMG EVIL REPUBLICANS HATES YOU AND WANTS TO KILL YOU IN YOUR BEDS AND TAKE AAAALLLLL THE MONEYS TO THE CAYMAN ISLANDS WHERE THEY WILL LAFF COLD EVIL LAFFS AT YOU WHILE YOU STARVE’!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • angienc says:

        Yeah, he’s full of crap. I left a comment as “anonymous” because I don’t have a google account. Unfortunately, I left out “in comparison to” at the end but the gist is there:

        Actually you are defending Obama & his administration by trying to pretend the policies that got us into this economic mess is 100% the fault of the Republicans –as if there weren’t Democrats in Congress who voted for all these polices (there were) and pretending the Clinton era Freddie & Frannie policies had NOTHING to do with the collapse of the housing marker (they did). It was BOTH parties that got us into this economic mess & trying to point to ABORTION ultrasound laws in a few states (as b.s. & invasive & as wrong as they are) [in comparison to ] the US President’s decision to routinely use DRONES TO KILL US CITIZENS shows how compromised your thinking is.

  12. Jadzia says:

    Well, at least nobody can say that the Obama campaign hasn’t created any jobs. It’s the WPA 2012!

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