Are You a Jobs Report Truther?

I know I am. I don’t buy the September Jobs Report for a minute, but quite frankly, it’s Friday and I’m too exhausted from a full work week that doesn’t end until tomorrow to dig deep to find out where the fuzzy math is. But it is worth noting that vile progs are falling back on one of their favorite memes, the “truther” meme. The meme is being pushed at no less than four different vile prog outlets today.  And it’s spreading to some of the friendliest news outlets Obama has in his employment pocket.

Meanwhile, a vile prog underling at The Orange Cheeto goes all debate-truther on us, accusing Romney of cheating via a handkerchief. I kid you not. We’re supposed to buy all of this garbage after 9-11 truthing, Trig Truthers, and 8 years of “Gore won!” paranoia, along with every other urgent conspiracy theory they ever hatched in the deep hollows of their mother’s basements.

Click the above links at your own peril. Vile Progsville has gone berserk today. They are obviously unhinged and desperate to do anything to restore the Obama narrative, a narrative that Romney has begun to slowly unravel with his first debate performance. (That last link is okay; it’s to P&L)

So, are you a Jobs Report Truther? Got any data so I don’t have to go digging? This is an open thread.

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95 Responses to Are You a Jobs Report Truther?

  1. I’ll probably get nailed for this, but if Bush did steal that election, thank goodness. I used to really appreciate Gore and buy that whole story, but if he’d been in charge for those 8 years instead, I’d be paying half my measly salary in a carbon tax just so I could get to work at the part-time job I now have because of Obama.

    • votermom says:

      Me too! I used to think Gore would have been a wonderful POTUS, but the first 2 years under Obama has opened my eyes.

    • carol haka says:

      I was just thinking of Gore and that election was the start of me sleeping with the tv on. I literally did not go to sleep for 3 weeks. And then 9/11 …… 👿 Some people forget that Kerry received actionable intelligence about 9/11 and just passed it on like someone had advised him of the janitor’s birthday. And then 2 planes were hijacked out of Logan …….. 👿

  2. mcnorman says:

    Yeah, count me as a jobs truther as well. I call bs when I see it.

    The BLS conducts two surveys each month to determine employment data. The first is the establishment survey, which polls 410,000 businesses each month. The second is the household survey, which polls 60,000 households each month. As one might expect, the larger survey provides a more stable series and more reliable data. The smaller one is still a very significant sample, but in a nation of around 150 million households, it’s hardly an exact science.

    Any poll series can produce an outlier result. That’s true even of larger sample surveys, even when the sample is properly balanced, and even without malicious intent to tweak the results. It’s more likely to happen with smaller samples than larger samples, but can happen any time in surveys. That’s why it’s important to look at trending more than a single result within polling series, although some applications (jobless rates, elections) are intended more for single-result reporting.

    In today’s case, the establishment survey showed a result that corresponds closely to other economic trends and that doesn’t deviate much from the intraseries trend. The household survey, from which the jobless rate is derived, showed a very large deviation from its own trending and from the growth data in the economy. The last time we had that many added in the household survey, the GDP growth rate was around 9%, and it’s currently 1.5%.

    • mcnorman says:

      At least two economists at the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) have contributed to President Barack Obama’s campaign. Harley Frazis of Bethesda, MD, has contributed at least $2,000 to Obama and $9,000 to the Democratic National Convention over the last three election cycles. During his time at BLS, Harley has published a number of papers including his most recent, “How to Think About Time-Use Data: What Inferences Can We Make About Long- and Short-Run Time Use from Time Diaries?”

      Stephen Phillips of Washington, D.C., has contributed at least $270 to Obama during the 2012 cycle. According to his LinkedIn profile, Phillips has been an economist at BLS since June 2009. Phillips was responsible for examining the impact of Obamacare on Healthcare North American Industry Classification System indices. Phillips was also assistant coach for a girls’ high school tennis team in 2010.

  3. I think it’s funny that the Obots are even talking about jobs truthers. They’re really all shook up—–

  4. catarina says:

    Where’s the Friday news dump?

  5. tommy says:

    Yep, I’m a Jobs report truther. Its just the Chicago way. Too much of a coincidence that right after O’s disastrous performance, the unemployment rate has decreased with a pathetic no. of jobs created. On the other hand, the vile progs are Debate Alarmists. They sense doom and gloom, and want to inoculate themselves with a feelgood unemployment rate. Maybe, just maybe, when election day reminds them of the shellacking of 2010, they may finally wake up.

  6. DandyTiger says:

    I’m seeing a few of these sad conspiracy things from some FB bots. When you just laugh and don’t feel the need to poke them, you know they’re pathetic.

  7. as an aside, looks like Code Pink has taken their show on the road to Pakistan. Wonder if they packed their vagina costumes in their suitcases……..

  8. myiq2xu says:

    I bought a sirloin roast the other day (it was marked down for quick sale) and I put it in the crock pot this morning with some Pappy’s, garlic and pepper along with some onion slices and a little chicken broth.

    It’s been smelling great since about 8am but I just took the meat out and shredded it. It’s really tender and tastes great.

    I put the shredded meat back in the pot to simmer for a few more hours.

  9. Lulu says:

    The Fox business reporter on the street just said Wall St did not buy it. Stocks were up early until house analysts started looking at the figures. It is “fishy”. So the stock traders and brokerage houses are truthers too. The stunt didn’t work as no one with any sense is buying it.

  10. angienc says:

    I heard the 7.8% number & I was feeling better, but then I had to stop & fill up my car with gas.

  11. tommy says:

    On a personal note, my second date with an attractive, Obot woman ended in a mini-disaster, especially after Captain Dicks pathetic performance. Unfortunately, she knows what I think about O. I purposefully zipped my lips regarding politics, and willed myself not to gloat. Too bad, she saw through my act and was extremely sullen. I know that we are political junkies, but sometimes we take it way too seriously. It really shouldn’t interfere in personal relationships, don’t you think? Thats my opinion anyway.

  12. yttik says:

    I’m not unemployed, I’m just currently working in the unpaid sector.

    But seriously, back in January Obama started this jobs program that was supposed to create 250,000 jobs by the end of summer. The problem was, it was discovered that most of these jobs were unpaid.

  13. cj says:

    I can’t read them, it hurts my brain, but I remember someone on a conservative site sarcastically claimed that the Democratic Party set up the vile prog sites as a way to keep the nuts & riff raff out of the mainstream dialogue.

    Well it didn’t work; the D-Party is now as nutty as a fruitcake from top to bottom.

  14. myiq2xu says:

    I went out and bought me a new Giants hat for the playoffs. I told them to give me one with lots of luck in it.

    If they make past Cincy I’m getting a shirt too.

    • uh oh—-I haven’t been paying a lick of attention to baseball. you mean your team and my team are playing against each other???

      At least that part of Ohio will go for Romney…..

  15. angienc says:

    ICYMI: Santelli — who last month predicted that “they’d get number down to below 8%” — this morning:

    • yttik says:

      Another thing that’s kind of funny, everybody is making a big fuss because unemployment might be under…. 8%. It’s kind of like celebrating when you find gas under 4 dollars a gallon. Woohoo, I’ve won the jackpot!

  16. swanspirit says:

    I posted this in another thread , but since we are TRUTHING
    and the people are dancing in the streets NO???
    Update: Yeah, this doesn’t smell right. The household survey (the part used to calculate the unemployment rate, not official payroll growth, which comes from the establishment survey) shows a whopping 873,000 jobs added in September (seasonally adjusted).

    How whopping? It’s the best month of the millennium to date.

  17. Black&Right says:

    I feel sick to my stomach. I just found out that this blog was supportive of the racist murderer George Zimmerman. The piece of crap hopped up on ADD meds who killed a young man because the ” assholes always get away.”

    I really did like the community here, oh well.:(

    • myiq2xu says:

      We are supportive of the truth and the rule of law. George Zimmerman has been convicted of nothing. He is entitled to his day in court. If a jury finds him guilty, I will support that verdict.

    • votermom says:

      The facts do not support the media narrative of Zimmerman/Martin.
      I support his right to due process.

    • angienc says:

      Yeah, Realville can be a bitch with the whole presumption of innocence thing — it’s not for the weak of stomach.

    • yttik says:

      I’m sorry you feel that way.

      I feel as if the media and some politicians exploited and distorted the case so badly, I can’t even form an opinion about it. But my opinion should really be irrelevant anyway because everybody has the right to a trial.

    • Underwhelmed says:

      Then you should find a watering hole where concepts like honesty and the presumption of innocence are optional extras.

      • myiq2xu says:

        This is a place where people can agreeably disagree.

        Blog Rules:

        5. This is the blogosphere, not a hothouse for delicate flowers.

        6. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

        7. No one is entitled to their own facts.

        12. Anything you say may be mocked, jeered and/or disputed.

    • carol haka says:

      Fbi investigated him and he passed a lie detector immediately after the death. They found no evidence of racist behavior. He is hispanic and actually filed an action against the police for some racist activity against a black person. Please take time to get the facts that people agree on. There are no racists on this site. A lot of people on this site have mixed race families including myself. That’s why we carry on about obama’s race card play. 👿

  18. myiq2xu says:

    Jim Lehrer:

    “I’ve always said this and finally I had a chance to demonstrate it: The moderator should be seen little and heard even less. It is up to the candidates to ask the follow-up questions and challenge one another.”

    “I don’t consider that being passive, I consider it being effective… It’s not my job to control the conversation. If the candidates gave me resistance, and I let them talk, to me that’s being an active moderator, not a passive moderator.”

    I agree. I think Lehrer did a great job.

    • Lulu says:

      He did ok but he couldn’t stop himself from prompting Obama. Overall pretty good. I think Lehrer was embarrassed for Obama and could not help himself out of pity.

    • Pips says:

      I think Lehrer did a great job.

      As did Obama who told Lehrer, with 3 minutes to go: “You’ve done a great job”!

      Really don’t know what all the fuss is about when even Obama himself didn’t complain. 🙄

  19. westcoaster says:

    up is down, forward is back- the O reality:

  20. Lulu says:

    The bloom is off the rose.

    An Ohio man at the market told President Obama that business has been “Terrible since you got here,” according to the White House pool report.

    • “It is no coincidence that I’m stopping at Michelle’s bakery,” Potus said. “I just want to point that out. And she spells it the right way, with two Ls. That’s the correct way.

      WTF? Is that a dig at Bachmann?

    • votermom says:

      That guy has guts, considering what happened to Joe the Plumber

  21. westcoaster says:

    this one hits home as well (about jobs):

  22. westcoaster says:

    OT: did anyone notice that Obama was holding his pen in his right hand during the debate?

  23. gxm17 says:

    Am I a job report truther? I dunno. But I’m definitely an Obama sucks truther.

  24. votermom says:

    Whoa. Now Steve Forbes (yes, that Forbes) tweets this

  25. votermom says:

    Ha ha ha ha ha

  26. carol haka says:

    I’m sure Ryan is all over it. Don’t waste your time. I still have seen Batman or Clint’s movie. 🙂

  27. HELENK says:

    Iowa Hawk

    o the business survey says +114k jobs, the HH survey says +873k. Who you gonna believe, the BLS or the BLS?

  28. HELENK says:

    U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    What did today’s jobs numbers mean to you? From the U.S. Chamber’s Chief Economist, Dr. Regalia, “While the overall tenor of the job market improved last month…payroll employment increased at a more subdued rate of 114,000 in September..far too slow to reemploy the millions who remain unemployed or underemployed.”

  29. threewickets says:

    Romney camp would be smart to fact check and track this chart.

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