Watch this movie!


I’m serious. Take some time and watch it now before it gets pulled from You Tube.

If liberals are the ones with hearts, and conservatives the ones with brains… this is a film about and for those who choose to engage both.


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31 Responses to Watch this movie!

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Brandon Darby and Kevin Dujan talk about how they evolved politically.

    • angienc says:

      I really, really liked Ted Hayes.

      I could have lived without Bill Ayers, though.

      I agree everyone should watch this movie.

    • votermom says:

      You know, I had forgotten all about Brandon Darby and the informant thing.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Isn’t it strange that people were more horrified by a “snitch” than a couple guys who were planning terrorist acts?

        • votermom says:

          Appalling.
          I didn’t know that he was getting more grief than the would-be terrorists. I remember being very relieved that that there were good people like Darby on “our side” (I was still die-hard lib) that would not stand for violence.
          And the media swept the whole thing under the rug, iirc.

  2. tommy says:

    ‘In a disturbing development in the Rimsha Masih case, the cleric who publicly defended the 14-year-old Christian girl against charges of blasphemy and protested her innocence was kidnapped on Thursday and released after being warned of dire consequences. Maulana Tahir Mahmood Ashrafi, the chairman of the Ulema and Mashaikh Council, was kidnapped from Islamabad’s high security diplomatic enclave. Police say it was a routine kidnapping but some say it was a militant group giving Ashrafi a message not to support religious minorities. Ashrafi, who was on his way to the German embassy, was recovered from a nearby area late at night, say police officials. Ashrafi had been drugged, say police, who also claim his kidnappers were arrested but they refused to identify them. Ashrafi has been vocal in the Rimsha Masih case as he had demanded that the girl be released since she was found innocent. Ashrafi also managed to get other religious parties to back him in what was seen as a first by the country’s right wingers. Ashrafi, who also is known for his hate speeches against the US, aligned himself with minority groups on the issue of Rimsha Masih and then later when churches were attacked during the recent protests against the anti-Islam film which rocked Pakistan, he demanded a government inquiry to identify the arsonists and punish them.’ Unfortunately, whenever an iffy moderate raises his voice, they are squashed like a bug by the radicals.

  3. DM says:

    From Reuters:

  4. DM says:

    I see fighting against the state the same as fighting for the state. The only losers are the fighters.

  5. AniEm says:

    Wow! This was great. Much as Ayres hypocrisy disgusts me, even he was worth a listen. Loved the video and admire the courage of the people who participated in it.

  6. swanspirit says:

    Well worth watching, , and I could have done without Ayers as well . I remember him too well. I remember his murders , and that he let the blame shift to the black panthers while his rich daddy helped him get off . Wonderful to hear Kevin Dujan .

    • I gotta say, I’m a little softer on Ayers myself after watching this. We’ll never be bosom buddies or anything, but I think the film gave him a fair shot and he sounded reasonable. Curious about his book.

      • swanspirit says:

        Ayers and the Weathermen just about destroyed the non violent movement with their bombs and murders . When his GF Diana Oughton blew herself to smithereens making bombs at his direction, he just moved over to Dorhn without so much as a by your leave . He was against commitment in relationships back then . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Oughton
        Nothing will ever soften me toward that bastard .

        • votermom says:

          Me too. I just wanted to reach thru the monitor and shake him. “Oh I’m 66, of course I have regrets”. He’s like a 66 yo child who’s gone thru life casually destroying lives with the best intentions, and now he’s all pouty that people judge him by his past actions.

        • Karma says:

          Honk!

          Sorry for the late reply but catching up to the board. And thanks for posting this video – very interesting.

  7. yttik says:

    Wow! That is a powerful video! Everybody should watch it!

  8. I’m glad I took your advice. Very good, and hopeful. Who was the bald guy in the plaid flannel? I must have missed his introduction. He looked familiar, but I couldn’t place him.

  9. insanelysane says:

    The evolution from life long Dem to the ” I don’t know what the hell party I am now” party was bewildering to me and to hear Keven and Brandon describe exactly what happened really brought clarity.
    My mind was opened once the labels were blown apart.

    2008 changed me…Well, changed what I consider myself to be called. My beliefs haven’t changed, the labels have.
    Good video. A must watch.

  10. yttik says:

    I could have done without Bill Ayers, too, but I think it’s good she included him in the film. He represents the insanity of dehumanizing your alleged enemy, especially in the name of peace and tolerance.

    Here’s a man who murdered people, who terrorized people, because he felt entitled to create his version of a more “humane” world. That’s just insane.

    • swanspirit says:

      Exactly , and people who knew him , said of him that he was more self aggrandizing than anything else ., mostly ego-driven .

      • myiq2xu says:

        To win acceptance in the mainstream left he had to tone down his revolutionary ideas. But his views haven’t changed.

        He was quoted (in an interview published on 9-11-01) that he didn’t regret his Weatherman days and said he didn’t think they did enough.

    • westcoaster says:

      there was a character in the movie Across the Universe that was somewhat similar to him. The movie really showed how the Weathermen group was attractive to young students (and how it failed).

    • angienc says:

      Yes, it was good Bill Ayers was included. I was being a snotty when I wrote “I could have done without Ayers” because he did what Brandon Darby refused to do in the name of the “cause” (i.e., blow up & kill people). I just get disgusted hearing Ayers justifying himself right after seeing Darby’s example of moral clarity (i.e, what am I doing hanging around people who would think its a “bad” thing that I helped stop innocent Israels from getting bombed in the name of “social justice”). Darby is *actually* a good person who wants to help people & change society for the better; Ayers just *thinks* he is.

      • swanspirit says:

        I didn’t think you were being snotty , I had the same response , I just wonder if people watching realize he was willing to kill people in the name of peace to make a name for himself .For me he was the contrast , I don’t care how much ideological bull he throws around.

        • angienc says:

          Sorry — I meant being “snide” — I’m not expressing myself *at all* well today. đŸ™‚

        • They didn’t leave that info out. I think the point was that you even have to humanize guys like him. You don’t have to like him, but he is human.

  11. Mary says:

    Excellent video, myiq. Watched the whole thing. Thanks for posting!

  12. HELENK says:

    Bill Ayers is a man that considers people collateral damage.
    I often wonder if the kids in his classes really understand what he thinks of them.Both he and bernadette dorn have no souls.
    The can spout the words about being against the MAN. but run back to daddy when the going get rough and have no problem living off the MAN”s money

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