Lara Logan Disses Obama On Middle East Foreign Policy

Chicago Sun-Times on a speech by Lara Logan:

Her ominous and frightening message was gleaned from years of covering our wars in the Middle East. She arrived in Chicago on the heels of her Sept. 30 report, “The Longest War.” It examined the Afghanistan conflict and exposed the perils that still confront America, 11 years after 9/11.

Eleven years later, “they” still hate us, now more than ever, Logan told the crowd. The Taliban and al-Qaida have not been vanquished, she added. They’re coming back.

“I chose this subject because, one, I can’t stand, that there is a major lie being propagated . . .” Logan declared in her native South African accent.

The lie is that America’s military might has tamed the Taliban.

“There is this narrative coming out of Washington for the last two years,” Logan said. It is driven in part by “Taliban apologists,” who claim “they are just the poor moderate, gentler, kinder Taliban,” she added sarcastically. “It’s such nonsense!”

Logan stepped way out of the “objective,” journalistic role. The audience was riveted as she told of plowing through reams of documents, and interviewing John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan; Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and a Taliban commander trained by al-Qaida. The Taliban and al-Qaida are teaming up and recruiting new terrorists to do us deadly harm, she reports.

She made a passionate case that our government is downplaying the strength of our enemies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, as a rationale of getting us out of the longest war. We have been lulled into believing that the perils are in the past: “You’re not listening to what the people who are fighting you say about this fight. In your arrogance, you think you write the script.”

Our enemies are writing the story, she suggests, and there’s no happy ending for us.

I gotta disagree with Ms. Logan on this one. We’ve already announced we are leaving that piece of shit country. We should just pack up our stuff and get the fuck out.

Things are not gonna get better anytime soon. Our voters would not stand for increasing our troop strength and the Soviets proved that you can’t win the Afghani hearts and minds by use of force anyway. Most importantly, the people we went in there to get aren’t there anymore.

Yes, they hate us. The longer we stay there the more they will hate us. But if we aren’t over there they have to hate us at a distance. What we can do is make clear that we will not tolerate that country (or any other nation) being a terrorist haven like it was before the attacks on September 11th. We can keep sending them money and other support as long as they behave. Otherwise, fuck ’em.

Sometimes there are no right answers.

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31 Responses to Lara Logan Disses Obama On Middle East Foreign Policy

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Holy Sheepshit Batman!

    Unlike the Rest of the World, SNL Had a Hard Time Joking About the Debate

    In an unusual move, NBC allowed the New York Times to sit in on SNL’s writing and rehearsal process last week. The paper reports that mining the debates for comedy was surprisingly difficult, and the sketch was nearly cut at the last minute. “It’s boring enough when they’re talking about all this and how it will affect Americans, but when you’re sitting there trying to pull comedy out of it, it’s really bad,” Seth Meyers said. “There were people on Twitter saying: ‘You must be really happy, there’s so much in this debate. This is writing itself.’ I was like: what debate are you watching?”

    SNL had two of the funniest skits they ran in years about the debate.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    Am I the only person having problems with YouTube today?

  3. jeffhas says:

    I’m pretty cool with your summation… BUT, I took from her conversation that we are being misled…. and that NO REPONSE after our Ambassador is KILLED sends a message of weakness to the Taliban, and emboldens them.

    I’m fine with leaving, tying any aid to cooperation, and further, removing our emissaries (and closing our embassies) from their countries…. BUT, could our leaders be truthful about what the hell is going on? – ’cause right now it looks like this administration is either not talking about the subject, or deflecting the subject.

    I would like to be told the truth – that we probably will have to live with the possibility of Terrorist attacks ’til the end of time… With that acknowledgment, we can work to SECURE our country and interests, so that we can prevent these attacks as much as possible.

    • wmcb says:

      I’m with you, jeffhas. We have a huge fucking financial stick, and we ought to USE it. And we ought to respond with swift, deadly, utterly implacable force if attacked.

      Other than that, leave off the nation building and occupying and let them sweat and starve in their third world shitpiles.

  4. DeniseVB says:

    It’s just nice to see Ms. Logan challenging the Preezy. He was certainly thumping his chest the other night for his Hollywood pals about bringing peace to the ME. (now give me mo’money!).

  5. yttik says:

    I’m not fine with pulling out and leaving. I wish we’d never gone in, but now we’re in “you broke it, you fix it mode.” Dictators have been disposed, there’s a power struggle between extremists, Iran is getting a bomb, terrorists in Syria have chem weapons, it’s a nightmare. I agree with Ms. Logan, “Our enemies are writing the story.” We need to be writing the story because that’s actually the path to less bloodshed.

    • DM says:

      Yeah, but we’re broke. Are we going to borrow from China to continue losing wars?

      • angienc says:

        The choice isn’t doing nothing/appeasement v. war — that is what Obama says the choices are but he’s full of shit. There is a third choice as Romney outlined – it used to be called peace through strength — attaching aid & diplomatic assistance to adherence to certain standards. Now we’re just giving money with no strings attached in the sense that any “conditions” to that aid are easily disregarded because they know we are weak & will not follow through on any sanctions, stopping the aid, etc.
        yttik is right — we need to be writing the story.

        • votermom says:

          I agree with yttik & angie. Just pulling out will prove more costly in the long run.

        • swanspirit says:

          And Angie , I also think that Obama has encourage our enemies by distancing from our friends , esp Israel . That has no doubt helped with recruitment and encouraged rebellion . There are so many shades of evolving consequences of a weak disorganized POTUS.

        • 49erDweet says:

          Don’t mind at all pulling out early as long as we break lots of stuff – theirs and ours – doing it. Leaving the place even slightly better is a loser’s way, not ours under these conditions.

  6. DM says:

    Most importantly, the people we went in there to get aren’t there anymore.

    Bush went to Afghanistan to get the Taliban for having given refuge to al-Q. Bush also went after Bin Laden. He was a failure on both counts. Obama has only made it worse.

    Meh. If we’re not in Afghanistan we’ll be somewhere else. We’re always fighting some war, like in Orwell’s 1984.

  7. DandyTiger says:

    I think we should invade Canada instead. I don’t like the way they’re looking at us.

    • DM says:

      I think Mexico is a better place take over. It has oil and lots of cheap labor, and will fight us always mañana, and we beat them once. 🙂

      It’s a win win.

      Don’t beat me up because I came up with a bad joke.

    • gxm17 says:

      I vote for France! Just because. And who needs oil when you’ve got all the wine and cheese?

  8. carol haka says:

    Halle-fucking-lujah! Thank you Ms. Logan for your courage. Now move our soldiers and personnel out and give them what they want – a one way trip to hell! If we have a bomb to save the infrastructue great, drop it. If not, blow it to hell. And then we can start mining the minerals. 👿

    • yttik says:

      LOL! Well, we are one of the few countries that actually looses money going to war. We not only fund the darn thing, then we pay to rebuild the country later! Not the British, oh no, they always went in, pillaged, plundered, and actually made a profit.

    • DandyTiger says:

      Interesting. So many are showing Romney got a nice bounce, but the Prezzy has come back because of the 7.8% unemployment figure. Not surprising. But it looks like the statistical tie nationally and in swing states is sticking. So that’s a big change from a few weeks ago.

  9. mcnorman says:

    Legalinsurrection funny.

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