New Low: Battle of the Grieving Women

Barbara Doherty/ Jane Horton

You knew this campaign was going to get super weird and super low, but we’ve hit a new low today with the battle of the grieving women. It starts with a dead Navy SEAL, Glen Doherty. Mitt Romney’s been talking about him on the campaign trail. In a weird twist, the mother of Doherty called her local press to complain about it, adding, “I don’t trust Romney.” The story broke on 7 News, WHDH in Boston. Doherty is from nearby Winchester. Video is at the link.

I’d suggest getting that dig in was the real reason for the call and and that there’s a 90% chance that Barbara Doherty is an Obama supporter. Here’s her full quote, just so you can see why I would make these assumptions.

“I don’t trust Romney. He shouldn’t make my son’s death part of his political agenda. It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama.”

Bolding mine. She doesn’t seem to actually care that Obama’s choices had the effect of degrading her son’s life to nothing, she’s just seems to be worried that Romney’s speech will “degrade Obama.” Romney immediately agreed to stop talking about him. What else could he do?

If that approach seems insensitive, there’s one thing I left out. Romney is using the story because he actually met Glen Doherty. He’s basically been saying he was told a few days ago that one of the SEALs who died in Benghazi was this guy he met, and how sad he is because he liked the guy. And that’s it.

This, of course, has the stink of the Obama campaign all over it, because who else is going to try to prevent people from talking about their own personal experiences except them, and specifically because it might hurt The One?

But you, know, Romney has a lot of these kind of narratives to fall back on. He also talks about Chris Horton, an Air National Guard sniper recently killed in Afghanistan.

And, in an interesting turn of events, someone found Horton’s widow. Called up by an ABC reporter, she had this to say:

“Wow,” the 26-year-old said. “I had no idea.

“To be honest, I’ve been through a lot and I’m not a super emotional person but it brings me to tears,” Horton said in an interview with ABC News, after being informed of her husband’s newfound spot on the national stage. “Not that he’s telling my story, but that he’s telling my husband’s story, it means the world to me.

“One of the last things my husband said to me before he was killed, when I would ask him, ‘Chris, what do you need over there? What can I send you?’ he said, ‘I need a new president[.]'”

Now ABC was obviously hoping for another gotcha moment, but were denied.

Horton said nobody from the campaign reached out to her to ask if it was OK for Romney to use her story in his speech, but she is “deeply humbled” by the news.

“I thought it was just a onetime thing,” Horton said.

This angle must be testing through to the roof for the campaigns to duke it out through these dueling grieving women like this. I can’t tell if this if for campaign trail talking points, or if the campaigns are planting debate seeds. Either way, I find it all a little nausea-inducing considering these are dead troops we’re talking about here. What’s your take?

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117 Responses to New Low: Battle of the Grieving Women

  1. As I said when the Ambassador and the three others were repatriated- I would have gone fucking ballistic if it was my son or dil and the asshat showed up to turn iinto a political event a grief filled moment- the he and his policies CAUSED. Swear to all that is holy I would be in jail.
    Where was Obama when the Ambassador was buried? His proper place would have been at the funeral, if at all.

  2. Wow, Doherty’s mom even agreed his death was a bump in the road.

    Full article now archived. Kool aid is a helluva drug.

  3. 49erDweet says:

    IMO mittens should personalize the human cost of war whenever he can without making it maudlin or playing into the hands of the “peace at any price” apologists. Yes, that’s a fine line, but it exists and is essential to preserving liberty.

  4. bluestate says:

    playing politics is exactly what she’s doing. she could’ve just asked romney not to mention it without explanation. did she? no.

  5. I guess it’s okay for the family to politicize Doherty’s death.

    Last week, my family honored my brother’s life at the State Department and Andrews Air Force Base. We met the families of the three other Americans killed in Libya—Chris Stevens, Ty Woods, and Sean Smith. We spoke with President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary Clinton, General Powell, and other officials. All of the politicians were so warm, and I was struck by how much they knew about Glen. Joe Biden was probably the most genuine person I’ve ever met. He was really great with my kids—he was just so real. He handed my children vice-presidential coins and talked to them about what it means to have such a coin—he said it’s an invitation for the White House. He joked about their hair and his lack of hair. He was like a favorite uncle. Most importantly, he made us feel like Glen’s death was about more than what happened that day. It was about being an American, and being proud. We all hugged, many times.

    • yttik says:

      Wow. That reminds me of the complaints today in the hearing that were politicizing the tragedy while complaining about how Republicans are politicizing the tragedy. The projection and hypocrisy is just too much.

  6. myiq2xu says:

    The Vile Progs needed something shiny to talk about besides the Oversight committee hearing.

  7. carol haka says:

    I’m really worried about the insensitivity that the Obama generation has developed. It’s all play acting about some perceived slight. 👿

  8. carol haka says:

    Fox News now!

  9. Myiq, you have urgent mail.

    • angienc says:

      He’s from SC, btw — my cousin lives in his district & is voting from him.

      He used to be a prosecutor (and obviously a good one).

  10. carol haka says:

    My dad loved the Cardinals!

    palin45potus Today 05:45 PM

    For a fan of St Louis Cards, which I am, the story of Chris Carpenter this year is almost beyond fiction.

    He had a rib removed in July due to circulation problems in his pitching arm. At 37 it looked like his career might well be over.

    Today he pitched into the sixth to lead the Cards to an 8-0 win.

  11. carol haka says:

    For the undecided in the polls, i think a device that can reach through the phone and dissolve the person on contact should be invented. If you are that fucking stupid, zap! 👿

  12. angienc says:

    Please note — Romney never, not once said the man’s name — he said that young man he met was “one of the former Navy Seals” who died in Benghazi. If Mrs. Doherty hadn’t called her “local” news channel we wouldn’t have known it was Glen Romney was talking about. Of course, there were only 2 former Seals who died, *but* by not directly mentioning the man’s name himself, it wasn’t Romney who was politicizing his death, IMO.

    Also, her saying “I don’t trust Romney” and I don’t want him to “use my son to degrade Obama” are the single most politicizing statements I’ve heard connected to this man’s death.

    And, btw, while I’m sorry for her loss, her son did die in a terrorist attack along with a US ambassador that Obama and the WH has lied to the American people about (saying, in fact, that her son was part of the ambassador’s security — when he wasn’t) — so it has been “political” long before Romney told the story.

  13. From the link reporting Romney stopped talking about, the difference between an Obot and a regular American:


    In a separate interview with a Seattle radio station a friend of Doherty’s, Elf Ellefsen, recalled hearing Doherty talk about his encounter with Romney in less-than-glowing terms.

    “He said it was very comical,” Ellefsen said in an interview with radio station KIRO. “Mitt Romney approached him ultimately four times, using this private gathering as a political venture to further his image. He kept introducing himself as Mitt Romney, a political figure. The same introduction, the same opening line. Glen believed it to be very insincere and stale.”

    “Honestly it does make me sick,” Ellefsen said in the interview with KIRO’s Libby Denkmann. “Glen would definitely not approve of it. He probably wouldn’t do much about it. He probably wouldn’t say a whole lot about it. I think Glen would feel, more than anything, almost embarrassed for Romney. I think he would feel pity for him.”

    A regular American (albeit a fellow Navy SEAL):

    Brandon Webb, another former SEAL and Doherty’s best friend, was with Doherty when he met Romney and remembers Romney reintroducing himself twice.

    “Glen and I both gave him a hard time when he reintroduced himself to us a second time. Mitt took it well and we all had a good laugh about it,” said Webb, managing editor of, for which Doherty was a contributing writer.

    But he remembers Doherty being respectful about Romney.

    “Glen was very respectful about our encounter with Mitt Romney. That was the kind of guy Glen was. He respected everyone regardless of their differences and that’s what made him such a great human being,” he said.

    Webb is an Obama supporter, but he knows how to handle this with skill and apparent honesty. The Obot is just making shit up, because that’s what they do. Talk about politicizing it.

    • angienc says:

      Describing Romney as “comical” “insincere” “stale” — same exact words used in that Politico story back in January about how the Obama’s staff didn’t take Romney as a serious threat to Obama’s re-election and that the plan was to “kill Romney.”

      That’s the thing with Obots — not an original one amongst the sons of bitches.

      • Erica says:

        Add to your list the words embarrassed and pity, for a full house. Not many people could cram that much into a paragraph without prep. This is really gross, but unfortunately what I’ve come to expect from Obama’s minions. But I have a feeling lots of voters are starting to see through the BS and reject it. Can’t wait for the next debate!

    • angienc says:

      Oh, btw — the Elf is giving hearsay evidence that would not be allowed in court while Webb (who was there) is giving direct evidence, which would be allowed in court.

      Note the difference.

  14. carol haka says:

    There is a GOD!

    IBD/TIPP Poll

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    IBD/TIPP 2012 Presidential Election
    Daily Tracking Poll

    Day 2: Oct. 10, 2012

    Romney: +5.0

    Romney’s lead widened to 5 points from 2 points on Tuesday, as he continues to chip away at key Obama support.
    Romney’s edge among independents widened to 20 points from 18 just a day before.
    Obama’s lead among women narrowed from 10 points to 8 points.
    Romney also continues to make inroads among middle-class voters, moving from a 6-point lead against Obama with this group to a 10-point lead.
    The current data include only polls taken after Romney’s resounding debate win over Obama on Oct. 3.

    Read More At IBD:

  15. myiq2xu says:

    The Giants are up 8-3 with 2 outs in the 9th.

    If they win the series is even 2-2 and the deciding game is tomorrow.

  16. angienc says:

    Oh, and btw — Mrs. Doherty, not only will Mitt Romney honor your request without another word in public about it, you can expect a handwritten note of apology from him (unlike the form letter with stamped signature Obama’s staff sends to dead soldiers’ families) that no one will ever know about unless you decide to mention it.

    That’s good enough for me.

  17. wmcb says:

    Sorry, but talking about the deaths that occur when an administration is screwing up foreign policy is not gratuitous “politicizing”. Romney was laudatory and respectful about this Marine from what I can see. Every one of the jackasses moaning about this supposed insensitivity had ZERO problem with talking about the brave souls sacrificed to bad policy for six fucking years.

    For the Left, who lauded Cindy Sheehan’s endless bloody shirt waving, and protested for 6 years with dripping red signs and casualty counts and papier mache coffins etc, to now claim some kind of prim moral high ground about the *appropriateness* of “politicizing tragedy” is laughable. Once again, they show that their “principles” are for convenience, easily discarded when not useful.

    • DM says:

      Sheehan was the mother, and she has a right, imho, to do what she did. It’s different when a politician talks about a fallen soldier. I think what Obama did, with the reporters and his speech at the air base when the bodies of those who died in Benghazi was for political gain. That’s not okay. It should have been private. Sheehan wanted to take her grief and do something positive with it. You may not agree that what she did was positive, but I don’t question her motive.

      • wmcb says:

        I agree that Sheehan had every right. So did the war protestors. My point was that the progs think it’s fine to refer to deaths and tragedy they think was caused by bad policy, but completely illegitimate for others to do so when it’s Obama’s policies killing people.

      • I agree with you, DM, but WMCB has a point, too, about the disingenuous Obamacrat reaction. They always do this overplaying of their hand and the cognitive dissonance their constant hyperbole creates is, IMO, the number 1 contributing factor to the electorate abandoning them at this crucial hour. It’s like America is all at once going, Oh come on now! That’s just too far. FFS.

  18. DeniseVB says:

    Did Mom think the codolence letter from Obama was “real” ?

    At least Romney was sincere towards her son.

  19. myiq2xu says:

    Via Hot Air:

    President Obama will attend his last fundraiser of the 2012 campaign Thursday and then shift into top gear following his disastrous recent debate performance that vaporized his polling lead over challenger Mitt Romney.

    With momentum in the race flipping to the Republican, sources have told The Hill the president will spend the rest of the campaign at swing-state rallies or preparing for the next two debates instead of attending more private fundraisers…

    They acknowledge that they could be outspent, as Obama warned donors in July, but take comfort from their belief that they have a better get-out-the-vote operation in the swing states.

  20. myiq2xu says:

    • yttik says:

      That was good! We really need to change attitudes in this country. I see college kids covered in tattoos, piercings, expensive clothes, complaining about how poor they are.

      We need to find a way to teach people about how to count their wealth and appreciate it, so they can grow some more of it! Those kids for example, don’t count the grants and loans that are paying for their education, the money for tattoos, clothes, iphones. All they can see is that they make 8 bucks an hour part time and have to share an apartment with somebody. They think they’re starving students, dirt poor. Well some of them are, but that’s only because they spent their grocery money on beer the night before, LOL.

    • Karma says:

      Shepard Smith points out something important there which I haven’t heard from the Obama Admin or media lapdogs in years. That bin Laden’s organization would often put out a video approx 3-6 months prior to an attack warning the US and apparently giving the opportunity for a type of repenting. Actually it’s converting to Islam and is required by their religious tenets to offer a chance to convert. Then usually another statement would be released and then they would carry out the terrorist attack on US interests. That there was public chatter and not just the type the NSA would detect.

      Also important to note that in Feb 1998, bin Laden declared that now American citizens would also be targets since we voted in the people who attacked Muslims countries, had violated Mecca (Saudi Arabia) by staging there for the first Iraq war, and then implementing the war, along with the no fly zone, etc,. That actually inspired chills when hearing it because that was the warning that they would be back for WTC since the first attack didn’t succeed to their desires. They wanted one tower to topple the other so it was considered a failure. But prior to that the ‘smaller’ Embassy bombings and the USS Cole were carried out.

      Shepard Smith saying that the terrorists have stated repeatedly they would attack us and then successfully carried out bigger and bigger attacks. That is the same pattern for larger attacks. That we really should worry about an even bigger attack. As if an Amb being assassinated and the attack on the base isn’t enough.

      As the media covers for Obama, we haven’t been privy to news of these increases of successful terrorist attacks or the videos and statements which warn us of their intentions like we were with the Clinton and Bush Admins. Which were always shown on the national evening news as well as cable networks. Regular citizens now can’t even examine if the pattern is the same all these years later due to the fact that bin Laden’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, released a video just a day prior to the 9/11/12 attacks. And he might have released the warning/repent/convert video or written statement weeks prior but the media failed us.

      Shepard makes the point though that the terrorists warned us and the citizens weren’t permitted to hear but govt should have been listening since they obviously knew about the security wall being breached, the British being attacked, Amb Stevens on an al Qaeda hit list, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

      The media malpractice to cover for Obama literally risks lives and even worse, it seems to have infected the very people who should be listening to the terrorists.

      Anyway, here is bin Laden’s fatwa that placed US citizens around the world in the line of fire.

      And once again. Lara Logan is right.

  21. yttik says:

    LOL! Literally.

    • Panetta, so coy. “…an attack against our individuals.” No sir, that was an attack on our COUNTRY. Say it, coward.

      Damning. Too bad most will never see it. ABC or NBC should put together something like it, but they won’t. Dicks.

  22. wmcb says:

  23. Myiq- you can delete my comment up top if it is inappropriate.

  24. votermom says:

    OT – Myiq & Lola – I will be offline for most of tomorrow (daytime). I’ll be back in time to cheer on the debate fun.

  25. myiq2xu says:

    Michelle Malkin epic rant on O’Reilly Hannity.

  26. HELENK says:

    I was looking for this yesterday. video of Lara Logan’s speech

    • DM says:

      Jeebus! That’s scared me. I’ve always liked Logan’s reports, and if she’s worried, I’m worried.

  27. HELENK says:

    Iowa Hawk

    The worst thing that will happen to anyone involved in the Benghazi fiasco: they’ll resign to take a teaching job at Harvard.

  28. HELENK says:

    the hearing is being replayed on c-span if anyone wants to watch it

  29. swanspirit says:

    Mother of slain State Dept worker on CNN says I don’t trust you anymore to the administration on Anderson Cooper

  30. DM says:

    “This could be the worst ad I’ve ever seen. I make an appeal to people in Chicago, run this ad every night over and over again” — Krauthhammer

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – In 2008, singer provided Barack Obama’s presidential campaign with music for its signature anthem, “Yes We Can.” On Tuesday, at a rally for Obama in Columbus, Ohio, the performer chose to play something new: the theme song for “Sesame Street.”
    For Obama’s supporters, already dismayed by the president’s halting performance in last week’s debate with Republican Mitt Romney, that change in tune is a new source for concern as they fret that a children’s TV show has become a new backdrop for their candidate’s campaign.
    In a moment of tightening polls and climbing anxiety for Obama’s supporters, the president’s decision to grant Big Bird a starring role in his campaign this week has presented another reason to reach for the Alka-Seltzer.

  31. votermom says:

    OT I died laughing beg of this thread on ace
    (Warning gross humor)

  32. HELENK says:

    you really can not fix stupid.
    the actress that becomes a star by playing that role will be laughing her ass off at beyonce

  33. Simofish says:

    I love reading all the comments every night. So happy everyone is here posting their thoughts. Thank you!

  34. swanspirit says:

    Speaking of people who do not suck , I just looked up an old friend I knew when I was very young in Baltimore , to see how his career was going along , haven’t thought about him in a long time ; and found out he passed away in 2008 . Hiram Bullock far too young R.I.P.

  35. myiq2xu says:

    The A’s scored 3 in the ninth to beat Detroit.

  36. DM says:

    I was looking at the details of the Susquehanna PA poll. It’s really close. The poll gives Obama a 2 point advantage and 4% undecided. It would be great if Romney wins PA.

    Click to access Susquehanna_PA_1008.pdf

    • DM says:

      I should point out that this poll has a larger sample (higher confidence) than Rasmussen, therefore it’s a better picture of the race in PA

      • I really would like to see a poll that samples only Philly and Pittsburgh- the rest of the state is going red- except small pockets (Erie, State College etc)
        It all comes down to how Philly goes- that is where all the Congressional Districts- and hence the electoral votes- are. If they are sampling statewide- they are not giving a true picture of how it is going to go.

      • I did like this part of the poll –

        Obama leads among all females 52-42, while Romney leads 49-42 among males. In geographic regions,
        Romney leads Obama in the Southwest (49-36), “T”/Central (63-27), and South Central/Harrisburg (51-
        39), while Obama leads Romney in the Northwest (58-39), Northeast/Lehigh Valley (53-38) and
        Philadelphia (86-13). Obama leads narrowly in the 4 suburban counties in the Southeast (50-45), while
        Romney leads narrowly in Allegheny County (51-46). Although the regional breaks usually have a
        higher margin of error due to smaller sample sizes within them, if these closer margins hold for
        Romney in both the Southeast and Allegheny County it would validate a significant trend nationally
        that he is doing better in suburban communities than McCain did four years ago. In 2008, Obama won
        Allegheny County and the 4 collar counties around Philadelphia each by fifteen point margins.

        That part about O leading in the NW is total BS. O will take Erie- the rest of the NW is as red as red can be. I know- I live here. A look at the PA Sec State election results page will show that the NW always goes red except for that stubborn Erie. Last time around Hillary kicked ass in the I-79 corridor- then McCain took the same area handily. If they sampled only in Erie- that would explain that NW number. Had they gone a bit south it would have changed to Romney leading.

  37. angienc says:

    Oh no this Motherfucker did NOT tweet this after raking WJC over the coals as a racist in 2008:

  38. DM says:

    MI is looking more positive for Romney, but Obomination still has a 6.7% lead. (It was 14.2% in mid September). The good news is that there the poll identifies 7.7% undecideds and Obama is below 50%

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