Thank you all!


That how many hits we had yesterday here at The Crawdad Hole. That was a new record. It also pushed us over 1,300,000 total hits. None of those were from me because WordPress doesn’t count me as a visitor. Not too shabby for a lowly little blog that’s been around less than two years.

Live-blogging events with a bunch of friends is really fun because we are all reacting simultaneously to the same things. During the debate last night and immediately afterwards we had about 2,500 hits and several hundred comments were posted.

Blogging is therapy for me. Thank you all for making it work.

The Klown

This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

132 Responses to Thank you all!

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Don’t go posting any warm-fuzzy touchy-feely comments cuz you know I hate that stuff.

  2. lyn5 says:


  3. britgirls says:

    Okay … no touchy feely. I’m sure you wouldn’t say no to a grope, though, eh?

    Just thank you for making this place so welcoming. I learn so much from all the interesting posts and comments. Shout out to Helen also for always posting such fascinating links, too.

  4. Simofish says:

    During the day I am swamped with work. But every night I come over and go through all the comments. I feel at home.
    Appreciate your perspective and everyone’s thoughts.
    Have a GREAT day……..

  5. tommy says:

    Thank you Klown, for hosting us. As long as you promise to get married if Romney is elected, its all good. Lol

  6. indigogrrl1 says:

    who are you and what have you done with the klown?

  7. my favorite martian….

  8. yttik says:

    1,300,000 total hits…..

    That’s a lot of therapy. You should be able to levitate by now.

  9. gram cracker says:

    In this crazy “thorough the looking glass” world we now live in, the Crawdad Hole is the best objective analysis and comments sanctuary to crawl into to ride out these bumps in the road.

    Thanks Klown! Be safe and take care of yourself.

  10. gram cracker says:

    Tom Brokaw was not impressed by Biden’s antics during discussion of Iran and Libya.

    Both Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough agreed that “to know Joe is to love him,” despite poll results pointing to the contrary. Tom Brokaw, however, approached the Vice President’s performance a bit more critically, saying that he simply “can’t contain himself” before pointing to the fact that Biden continued to smirk or laugh while he and Ryan discussed serious, solemn issues like Iran and Libya.

    “I don’t think he was laughing,” said Brzezinski, but rather showed that he was “amused” at Ryan’s approach to these issues.

    It’s about tone, Brokaw argued, regardless of one’s level of amusement, and he maintained that Biden’s demeanor should have been “dialed down” during discussion about critical, serious matters.

  11. tommy says:

    ‘Having spent years tracking down the scandalous details of the Hollywood star’s romances and affairs, authors Danforth Prince and Darwin Potter lay her private life bare in a new biography Elizabeth Taylor : There is Nothing Like a Dame. The unauthorized biography says that a nude dip in JFKs swimming pool turned into a threesome with Taylor and Stack. It says Reagan was 36 when he invited a teenage Taylor to dine with him at his Hollywood Hills home, where she seduced him. Liz Taylor is believed to have told a close pal : Reagan was treating me like a grown woman, and that thrilled me. We sat on his sofa and I could tell he wanted to get it on but he seemed reluctant to make the first move. I became the aggressor. After a heavy make-out session on the sofa, we went into the bedroom’. Now I know how JFK learnt to hammer out a “3-way-deal” and where Reagan learnt all about “trickle-down” economics and the “laffer curve”.

  12. HELENK says:

    thank you for the place where different ideas are welcome.

    a damn good day yesterday
    YOUR TEAM WON and the hits here keep on coming

  13. wmcb says:

    Thanks for the blog, and all your hard work. I can honestly say that this is the most interesting non-ideological political blog on the internet. I LOVE that everything from sincere liberals to honest conservatives to libertarian- leaning average people are welcome here. I love that people are more interested in having a conversation than sounding erudite, or pushing a party line.

    This place is more like a family gathering, or a mixed bag of differently- thinking neighbors at the local bar, than anything else on the net. We argue like mad. There are no rules other than “don’t be a huge prick or the group will naturally look askance at you.” We just throw it out there and shoot the shit. We are free to change our minds, and say so. We are free to doubt, or to say, “Fuck if I know!”

    Crawdad Hole is not like a political salon. It’s like the real world. Thanks for that.

    • gram cracker says:

      Honk! What she said.

    • Karma says:


      And it’s why I make a point of catching up on all the posts when away for a few days. It’s always interesting and everyone makes a point of bringing that day’s events to the board. It’s the best place to get a wide range of news, ideas, links, snark, and honesty. Echo-chambers are boring.


    • angienc says:


      Congrats clown!

    • Lulu says:

      I love that photo of Obama wrapped in paper towels. He looks so tidy.

    • HELENK says:

      I had to steal and post this comment from that article


      I learned a great deal from Big Bird and his friends on Sesame Street. He was instrumental in my learning the alphabet:

      Journalists –
      Media –

  14. britgirls says:

    I’m really curious about the CCTV coverage the night of the Libya embassy attack.

    “There is no footage, for example, of Ambassador Chris Stevens going into the safe room where he eventually died from smoke inhalation. ”

    *puts on tin foil hat*

    Because he didn’t actually die of smoke inhalation???

  15. HELENK says:

    really good picture and caption for the debate

  16. tommy says:

    According to Gallup, 90% of democrats approve of BHOs job performance, while only 8% of repubs do. That 82 point gap is the highest for any preezy, thus making BHO the most polarizing preezy ever. All previous preezys had smaller gaps. Thats what a supposedly postpartisan BHO has done.

    • ROFLMAO! Well Gallup must have turned into a bunch of RAYCISTS then- because I clearly remember one of the OFA lines in 08 was we could not elect Hillary as she would be the “Most Polarizing Person EVAH in the whole history of the whole wide world, past present and future!”

    • bluestate says:

      wow! well, it does seem pretty reflective of reality to me. this is a guy who split the democratic party after all. now some of those people aren’t dems anymore, and i’m one of them.

  17. Thanks for hosting- and for allowing a refugee like me a safe haven. Truly enjoy the variety of viewpoints and the commentary here. And in a way it is therapeutic for me as well lol. I can actually look at the pics of klowns and not have a panic attack now. Not saying I could face one in real life yet though.

  18. Lulu says:

    In our current social and political atmosphere we need a safe place to openly and honestly state our mind. And to shoot our mouths off without fear of bodily harm. Huzzah for the Crawdad Hole.

  19. Just saw a quote on Facebook. Proverbs 29:9

    When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man,
    [a]The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.

    That about sums up the debate last night.

  20. DandyTiger says:

    Thanks and congratulations!

  21. wmcb says:

    At this point in the race, I pretty much ignore polls and look at the behavior of the campaigns to tell me who is doing well. Where are they spending money? What states are they focused on? At whom are their speeches aimed?

    Several things tell me that team O has horrible internals and knows it. All the focus on abortion, when MOST women in the middle and swing voters are at best conflicted on abortion. All the race baiting, to drive minorities to the polls. The fact that Obama no longer does rallies anywhere but college campuses. That tells me that Obama has not even got his base nailed down.

    Biden last night put on a huge display for THE BASE. No way that was aimed at the moderate middle. Romney and Ryan are confident in their base, and now making inroads into swing voters in the middle. Their speeches are not now aimed at firing up conservatives, but reassuring moderates.

    Anytime a campaign this late in the game is still trying to shore up their base, it means their internals SUCK. Bank on it. I don’t care what the media says.

    • From your lips (or fingers as the case may be)
      We are getting almost NO political ads here in NW PA- a few for the State races- but not many for either side. I see some out of Ohio- because we get crossover from Youngstown and Cleveland. The candidates are ignoring this part of PA.
      (It ticks me off that the bid to change how we award electoral votes went nowhere. The opponents all were hollering how PA would lose out on all the money campaigns spend if there was not one big 20 vote prize. So yeah- now the candidates spend close to zero dollars. How;s that working out for the nay sayers now?)

  22. HELENK says:

    now this makes me angry

    princess nancy and her pac go to war against the first female combat fighter pilot.

    so which party has a war on women???????

  23. tommy says:

    BHO has managed to eclipse GWB. At his worst, GWB had a gap of 80 points. This dude is tearing apart the nation, while borrowing money from China, and behaving like everything is kewl, and effin FORWARD. Sorry, a rant is on its way out, but I’m controlling it.

  24. pipermn says:

    Don’t know how to share cartoons found on another site, Legal Insurrection but here is link – Awesome cartoon summarizing last night’s debacle.

  25. pipermn says:

    Forgot my manners Klown – just wanted to add my nickel here in agreeing with all today’s posters that your place is one of the bestest on the inntertubz.

  26. britgirls says:

    PA is now a toss-up on RCP’s electoral map. I live in Eastern PA only an hour from Philly. Totally believe this state could turn red this time. I’m seeing more Romney/Ryan signs all the time.

  27. DM says:

    This place is fun. I enjoy reading the comments posted here. Good job Klown.

  28. DM says:

    And this quote encapsulates the thinking of Obama and his team:

    Quote of the Day
    “It’s impossible for us to be at 44 in Florida.”

    — Obama adviser David Plouffe, quoted by the Tampa Bay Times, on a new Mason-Dixon poll shows Mitt Romney leading in Florida, 51% to 44%.

  29. tommy says:

    Democratic House Reps. Sherman and Berman get into a physical confrontation and had to be separated by a cop? They’re primary opponents in L.A. But physical confrontation? WTF? The hate is overflowing in the Democratic party. Come on guys, you’re the party of William Jefferson Clinton. Have some effing self-respect.

  30. cj says:

    Congratulations myiq, and thanks for making this a comfortable place to hang out. 🙂

  31. DM says:

    Now we know. It’s Hillary’s fault. She should resign now. from Political wire:

    9:22 AM
    White House Says Biden Doesn’t Speak for State Department – A White House official tells The Cable that Vice President Joe Biden “speaks only for himself and President Barack Obama, and neither man was aware that U.S. officials in Libya had asked the State …
    White House Says Biden Doesn’t Speak for State Department
    A White House official tells The Cable that Vice President Joe Biden “speaks only for himself and President Barack Obama, and neither man was aware that U.S. officials in Libya had asked the State Department for more security before the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi.”

    Biden has come under fire for saying at Thursday night’s debate, “We weren’t told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security there.”

    • DM says:

      I’m serious about this. I think the Republicans should demand Hillary resigns. When someone doesn’t do the job, they should get fired.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Someone here recently said “If we don’t hold Hillary accountable then we’re no different than the Obots.” I’m not ready to demand her resignation but she’s not off the hook either.

        Principles are meaningless if you toss them aside whenever they become inconvenient.

      • cj says:

        Not yet, that’s the WH version, I’d like to hear what Hillary & the intelligence service says first.

        • DM says:

          But by asking Hillary’s resignation, it will force the WH and Hillary to come clean on their version. She now needs to be asked by the media about this. The Benghazi disaster is no small matter.

        • yttik says:

          To tell you the truth, DM, Republicans AND Hillary already appear to be working together to get to the bottom of this. Hillary has an investigation going on at the State Dept, and Congress is having an investigation of their own. Hillary has already “come clean” on her version in her letters to Rep Issa and offering him additional witnesses, as well as access to anything her own investigation discovers.

          Hillary is not and cannot be held accountable for the actions of her boss or his VP. Or Susan Rice whose position is now a cabinet position. Hillary works under President Obama. It’s a chain of command thing. She can’t be held accountable for her boss. He is accountable for her.

        • DM says:

          yttik, I agree with what you are saying that the buck stops at the president’s desk. I think it’s time for Hillary to be public about what happened and the State Department. She can simply say that the WH was informed of everything the State Department did, or that she dropped the ball. I don’t care if the SoS is Colin Powell or Hillary Clinton. The same rules apply.

        • Erica says:

          I think you may be right about Hillary actively working on this with the republicans/oversight committee. It was also interesting that the only positive comment made by Ryan last night was when he mentioned her by name and credited her for being right about Russia. She seems to have their respect, and there’s a reason for that. I think right now it hasn’t all unfolded yet.

      • Glennmcgahee says:

        So the President and Vice President are saying they are out of the loop? Is that what they are saying? Maybe because they are not listening or paying attention to their damn job?

    • yttik says:

      I call poppycock. “We weren’t told they wanted more security.” They shouldn’t have to be told. Nobody should have to do their homework for them. This is Libya, a place that has seen a lot of instability and just experienced yet another huge upheaval. They should have been paying attention. They should have been engaged with what was going on. Maybe they should have attended a few Daily Briefings and listened to what their intelligence was telling them.

      • yttik says:

        A good President would go to his meetings and say, “what is going on in Libya and what is the plan for our people there?”

      • angienc says:

        I agree trying to separate the State Dept. from the WH is utterly ridiculous “not my fault” adolescent pass the buck bullshit — when Biden speaks he is speaking FOR THE ADMINISTRATION & FOR THE COUNTRY — not for himself personally. For the love of God have we really gotten this far away from anyone taking responsibility in this country?

        That doesn’t mean I’m saying Hillary — as SoS is blameless here — I’m not. But this argument that the POTUS is not responsible for what his State Dept. does is galling.

        • wmcb says:

          It’s insane. Would the press have let Bush get away with saying, “Oh, that was Rumsfeld, Condi, whoever, not ME!” ?

          No way. The WH is responsible for it’s own fucking departments’ actions.

          • angienc says:

            You know, Nixon wasn’t *actually* present at the Watergate break in, nor did he even *know* about it beforehand.
            Just saying.

      • trixta says:

        Exactly yttik. Also, didn’t Biden know about the hearing which completely contradicts his statement about the intelligence failure? Unbelievable!

    • kanaughty says:

      i really am starting to believe this has become a set up against hillary because ob didn’t want to go down all on his own. seriously, hillary has no record of ever screwing up this bad, so why would it happen now. i mean the timing is crazy suspicious. this is just imho… i think the admin told her to say it was the video, so she had to toe the line…

      • DM says:

        And Colin Powell was told there were WMD’s and he didn’t use his best judgement to say that the intelligence looked like garbage. Powell is very much responsible for why the U.S. went to war under false pretenses. Hillary either comes clean and says that she dropped the ball, and sends her resignation, or she comes clean that her department did everything it was supposed to do and gave all the information necessary to the WH. Let chips fall where they may. I’m tired of the G.W.B. and now the Obama b.s.

      • carol haka says:

        No, she has to tell the truth and follow the law. She is responsible for her actions and inaction on things she should have done if she had knowledge. 👿 If I work at Wendy’s, and my boss tells me to kill the cashier and grab the cash, he made me do it is not a defense. 👿

    • trixta says:

      Biden lied through his pearly whites.

  32. swanspirit says:

    This place is what happens when the patients run the nuthouse 🙂 I am crazy grateful !

    • tommy says:

      Lol, swan.

    • carol haka says:

      Then that means Biden is blogging with us. 🙂

      • swanspirit says:

        Well, there is crazy good , and then there is Joe Biden , even crazy people can be nasty , and he is just nasty . I was waiting for his teeth to fall on the table during that debate .

        • trixta says:

          The debate was like seeing Dr Jeckel turn into Mr Hyde and vice versa. He yelled his way throughout the debate, then towards the end spoke as if he were telling us a bedtime story….really creepy. I had to take a sleeping pill last night ’cause the image of Biden’s menacing teeth was stuck in my head.

        • britgirls says:

          lmao!!! He reminded me of a super creepy old guy at my first job. He used to hit on everyone … and he would totally invade my personal space and lean right over my desk while he was trying out lines. I remember just praying that his false teeth wouldn’t fall out and land on me. eeeeek!!! o.o

    • DM says:

      This guy has a total misunderstanding of what brought the Spanish economic collapse. Spain and Greece are very different, this Mexican thinks the problems of Spain are the same as Greece. In fact, Spain had exactly the same banking collapse as the U.S. due to real estate overbuilding. But unlike the U.S., Spain’s spending to GDP is very small. Btw, Spain banking problems were mostly caused by easy lending by German banks.

  33. tommy says:

    Oh yeah, as far as I know, and that ain’t much, you’ve been going through major health issues for a while now. Yet, you’ve managed to get TCH going. Yeah, kudos to you. We realise that it takes a lot of time, effort and energy from your side. We do appreciate what you do, Klown. We just don’t express it much.

  34. carol haka says:

    If this is therapy for you, shouldn’t we be getting paid? I will need your ID and Insurance card please. 👿

  35. carol haka says:

    After reflection, I think the entire BIDEN SHIT LAST NIGHT WAS DIRTY TRICKS! 👿 the whole point was to make sure all anyone was talking about was Joe being Joe the baffoon! And, while Joe is showing his ass, the people who wanted to spend 90 minutes hearing what Ryan had to say to explain his positions were just shit out of luck! 👿 They couldn’t afford for the possible 70 million to concentrate on Ryan. 👿 Alert the media!

  36. carolyn in pa says:

    I would like to add my voice to those who appreciate having a place where they can relax and be themselves….I lurk and am sorry im not known because I cant think of a finer group to be affiliated with…I will be more vocal in the future. Love all of you but especially the klown…blush…..

    • wmcb says:

      Lurk less, speak more! We get loud and argumentative in this bar, but we don’t usually bite, and will almost always slap you on the back and buy you a beer while we argue. 😀

    • tommy says:

      Welcome to TCH. We’re a motley crew here, but more voices are needed. This small blog offers unique opinions, from all sides of the aisle, but with respect to each other. Yeah, sometimes we do have a brawl, but its all in the family. And our unifying mascot is the Klown.

    • More PA YAY! Where in the purple PA are you? (approx of course)

  37. myiq2xu says:

    • tommy says:

      Dude, you got a lurking admirer. Now thats new. Lol

    • carol haka says:

      Great minds think alike. See my post above. This was dirty tricks. Biden was showing his ass to prevent Ryan from making any point so media could discuss his bad manners for 4 days. 👿

  38. Erica says:

    I also lurk most of the time, but come by most days, and appreciate the ambiance and info presented here.

    Heard on radio news this morning that 25% of Calif voters changed or decided on their vote last night, and 56% of those are going RR.

    • wmcb says:

      In CA? Wow.

      • Erica says:

        I know! Haven’t verified yet, and they didn’t announce the poll site. But we may be going purple out here.

      • insanelysane says:

        We are actually seeing Obama commercials here in northern CA !! That hasn’t ever happened here in memory. I think smart people are fed up with pretending Obama is a liberal or even honest. I am seeing an occasional Romney sign. Not seeing any Obama signs. CA goes purple?

        • Erica says:

          I’m in the Bay Area. No RR signs, except one bumper. But in 2008 the place was plastered with 0 signage. Now, only a few here and there.

    • DM says:

      Fantastic. If Obama loses CA, or even if it’s close, it would ba a bfd.

      • myiq2xu says:

        If CA is even in play then Romney wins in a landslide.

        • kanaughty says:

          if romney won cali and florida, he doesn’t need much more than just the states that are already red. can you imagine if rr won pa, fl, and ca? what a crazy night that would be.

        • DM says:

          kanaughty, I very much doubt that CA will go red, but being purple is a bfd. This state is very blue, like NY, and if Obama captured only 51% of the voters, it means the rest of the country, places like OR and PA, goes red.

    • wyntre says:

      WOW! This is in California!

      So, Biden won, 48-41. In California.

      Good news? Nah, neutral news. But… Partisan split: R 26% D 45% I 28%. Heavily Democratic sample. D+19. Thanks to t-bird.

      Here’s the good news:

      22% of respondents said they changed their leanings based upon the debate. Of that 22%, here’s how votes shifted (bearing in mind we are now talking percentages of that subgroup):

      * 30% switched from the Obama ticket to the Romney ticket. * 29% switched from undecided to the Romney ticket. * A total of 59% switched to the Romney ticket.

      * 20% switched from the Romney ticket to the Obama ticket.
      * 20% switched from undecided to the Obama ticket.
      * A total of 40% switched to the Obama ticket.

      Does this help in California? No. We’re not winning California.

      But if there’s a net-positive movement towards Romney in liberal California, you can bet there’s movement elsewhere.

      • myiq2xu says:

        California isn’t completely blue. We elected Reagan as governor and three GOP governors since then. Until 1992 we split our Senate seats between the parties. We voted for Reagan and GHW Bush. We got a bunch of GOP congressmen too.

      • DM says:

        The surprising number in that CA poll is that only 48% think Biden won. Most partisans will believe their guy wins, Obama being the exception. I would have expected over 50%, but being below is a bfd

    • trixta says:

      Which radio station?

      • Erica says:

        560, which is conservative. They bug the bejeebus out of me sometimes, but I wanted to hear what they were saying after last night.

  39. tommy says:

    Well, well, well. A couple of days ago, a poll gave Romney +7 in Florida. And today, another poll has given him +7 in Virginia. Interesting…

    • DM says:

      Plouffe just can’t believe the reality of Obama falling to 44% in the Miami Herald (Mason-Dixon pollster) poll:

      “It’s impossible for us to be at 44 in Florida.” — Plouffe

      • trixta says:

        Acc to Fox this morning, Michigan is in play too, where R/R team is only 4 pts behind. Apparently neither MR or BO have campaigned very much in that state. If MR spends some time there (and explains his comment about GM letting go bankrupt in 2009), he could win that state also. IMO, filing Chapter 11 or 13 would have allowed GM to restructure and save all employee pensions, rather than just the union pensions under the BO takeover. Moreover, the VOLT has proven to be a disaster in terms of cost development and failed sales.

  40. DM says:

    Romney: Biden contradicted sworn Libya testimony

    • swanspirit says:

      Absolutely he did . And i will go so far a to say the “moderator” brought that up first, to get it out of the way , and so it was not the last thing on peoples minds . But Joe was such a blatant liar , that he made it worse .

    • angienc says:

      Here’s the clip — I bet the vile progs aren’t yucking it up about what a “great job” the grin with a body behind it did last night.

      Of course, they will blame Romney.

      • swanspirit says:

        There are more questions . EVEN IF they weren’t told WHY DIDN’T THEY ASK?????? you know as in , how are things in Libya these days ??any more desperate pleas for increased security , ?

        • angienc says:

          No shit — the WH’s defense (besides completely trying to say that while the Commander in Chief means Obama is solely responsible for “getting” Bin Laden, he really doesn’t know what else is going on in his Administration) is that *after* the attack happened, neither Obama nor Biden thought to even *ask* the State Dept. what had been going on in Libya with security or anything else *before* speaking to the people. Clueless *and* incompetent — only an Obot is stupid enough to buy that shit.

      • DandyTiger says:

        Actually they are. The Obots I know haven’t been happier since ’08. They’re high five’ing each other and spiking the football. They’re 100% it’s over. Again.

  41. Constance says:

    Thanks for the warm place, I feel at home here. Thanks Myiq.

  42. tommy says:

    Over at Politico, Secret Service agent arrested, drunk, lying on the street, incoherent. WTF? Is that normal? Maybe I’m green, but I don’t remember these sort of scandals under our previous preezys. Politico tries to spin it with the prostitution scandal. I always imagined the Secret Service as highly disciplined and organized. Is Captain Dick driving the Secret Service insane?

    • trixta says:

      Lax security…..hmmmm…….perhaps BO is expendable to he powers that be. Just saying….. Hope nothing happens to him cause I want to see his ass kicked out of the WH and his presidency to go down as the worst in history. Also, I hope he doesn’t get his mug in Mt Rushmore!!!


      Congrats, Klown! Thanks for giving us a place to go after the big melt down….

  43. trixta says:

    …on Mt Rushmore…

  44. elliesmom says:

    I followed myiq from TalkLeft to the Confluence. Lost him for awhile, then found him again here. It’s like when my parents moved without telling my brother.

Comments are closed.