Are Vile Progs Really That Stupid?


Paul Ryan Stimulus Funds Requests Show VP Nominee Asked For More Than Previously Reported

During Thursday night’s vice presidential debate, Vice President Joe Biden attacked Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) for criticizing the president’s stimulus act despite having sent two separate requests for stimulus funds for his district.

Biden was wrong. Ryan sent at least four requests.

A Freedom of Information Act request for correspondence between Ryan’s office and the Environmental Protection Agency, filed by The Huffington Post, unearthed two additional instances in which the Wisconsin Republican petitioned for American Recovery Act funds. In addition, there were many other occasions in which the GOP vice presidential nominee asked the EPA for grant money for projects in Wisconsin’s 1st District, which encompasses Ryan’s hometown of Janesville and has a slight Democratic lean. Combined, the letters muddy Ryan’s claim that the stimulus wasn’t helpful and that government spending, more broadly, doesn’t assist small businesses.

The letters, Ryan’s spokesman Brendan Buck said, were sent as part of the congressman’s basic responsibility to advocate on behalf of his district. “Part of being a congressman is vouching for constituents and helping them navigate the federal bureaucracy when asked,” he said.

But the letters’ language reveals a congressman who was involved in reviewing the applications and determining that taxpayer money could be useful economically. Moreover, the direct petitioning of the EPA could prove awkward for the Republican ticket, owing to the insistence among many in the GOP that the agency is a hindrance and should be eliminated.


Many of these correspondences were in line with what virtually every lawmaker does in carrying out his or her constituent duties. But as Biden charged in Thursday night’s debate, for Ryan — who has taken a hard line against both the stimulus and government spending in general — the requests have opened him up to charges of hypocrisy and insincerity.

“I love that,” Biden said. “This was such a bad program, and he writes me a letter saying, writes the Department of Energy a letter saying, `The reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs.’ His words. And now he’s sitting here looking at me.”

Your family (parents, siblings and kids) decides to take a vacation together. The choices are a trip to Disneyland or a cruise. The cost is the same either way. You vote for the cruise. Disneyland wins.

Do you still go on the vacation?

There is nothing hypocritical about a congressman opposing a spending bill and then seeking some of the money for his/her district when the bill passes anyway. Imagine if only those congressmen who voted in favor of spending were allowed to claim some for their constituents!

And if you’re writing a request for money, do you say “We don’t need it and we’re just gonna waste it but we want it anyway?” Hell no, you write about how much you need it and how much it will help.

BTW – It is not unusual for staff members to prepare correspondence for their boss to read and sign. Some bosses trust their staff and just sign routine items that are presented to them. Some bosses are so good they sign stuff without ever making it to the office that day.

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127 Responses to Are Vile Progs Really That Stupid?

  1. myiq2xu says:

    Remember when Obama said a staff member filled out a questionnaire for him?

  2. DandyTiger says:

    It is not unusual for staff members to prepare correspondence for their boss to read and sign. Some bosses trust their staff and just sign routine items that are presented to them. Some bosses are so good they sign stuff without ever making it to the office that day.

    Like the way Obama signed those surveys back when he was a state senator (or was it senator). When those were inconvenient, then it was a staffer. Funny how progs are fine when Obama does it, but it’s evil when a Repub does similar things (or better, not even possible.

    But the main point stands, of course he’s going to take funds he can get to help his constituents.

  3. angienc says:


    Not Benghazi; not the upcoming fiscal cliff; not $5 gas prices in CA; not the trillion+ deficit ; NOT the $16 trillion debt.THIS IS THE STORY!!!!

  4. pipermn says:

    Waiting for rain to stop to ride my bike in comfort so will spout my
    conspiracy theory.
    The dems higher ups didn’t want Hillary to win so they changed rules and carried the big ‘won’ across the finish line. But they knew that they needed Bill’s help in winning 2008 election so they offer Hill the job of SOS. Uncle Joe was needed to capture the older voters so he was offered the largely ceremonial job of VP. Today, they send out BFD Joe to act the buffoon in the debate knowing that they have Martha Raddish in their pocket who will assist in the ‘takedown.’ And sadly they use the Benghazi murders to disparage Hillary from ever running for office again. Could this be the plan by the puppet masters who are hiding behind the door to rid the party of both Clintons and Biden.
    BTW – I have mixed feelings about Hillary but I truly believe that obama slept through the 3AM call and used Susan Rice who is an idiot to go out and spin a story that protects the ‘won’ It’ll be interesting to see if Valjar can throw Hillary under the bus without damage to the ‘won.’

    • myiq2xu says:

      How do you make a dog hover like that?

      • pipermn says:

        You should see him blitzing around the house. Every once in a while he crashes in a wall, sits looking dazed for a minute or less, then starts blitzing again. He is quite the lovable character.

        • carol haka says:

          My niece has the same kind of doggy. His name is George. She uses baby wipes on him and rides in a seat belt. We aren’t obsessive in my family. 🙂

  5. myiq2xu says:


    I also acknowledged that a policy based on sanctions does not guarantee that Saddam Hussein’s weapons program will be curtailed. Ultimately, as long as Saddam Hussein is at the helm, no inspectors can guarantee that they have rooted out the entirety of Saddam Hussein’s weapons program. And I said the only way to remove Saddam is a massive military effort, led by the United States. – Joe Biden

    • Karma says:

      Lying to protect Bush from those inspectors who stood up and told the truth to power. At least he is consistent.

      It’s shocking to see how many progressive actually believe Biden told the truth in his debates with Ryan or Palin. Twitter makes it easier to see this time around but Biden is a govt pitch man and that’s it.

      He doesn’t care about the masses he only cares about DC.

      • myiq2xu says:

        Progs have no problem believing six impossible things before breakfast.

      • angienc says:

        I understand many of them might not be old enough to remember Anita Hill & Joe Biden’s disgusting behavior towards her — as head of the Senate Judiciary Committee — was then, but a lot of their “leaders” (such as Andrew Sullivan, Mark Halprin, etc) damn sure are — I was in high school & I remember it. So FUCK THEM for all the praise they are giving that asshole Biden now.

        And that’s not even getting into his “Credit Card Joe” 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act crap that *really* screwed over the middle class. The man is a hack — in the Senate since he was 30 years old before becoming VP. Never carried a “lunch bucket” or produced anything of value. Plus, I thought the Vile Progs hated angry old men.

        • Karma says:

          I remember that too. He was among the worst on that panel. If I had any youtube type of skills that would be excellent montage of clips to dig up.

          Contrast him yelling at Martha in the debates with his treatment of Anita Hill. Not much has changed over the years, huh Joe?

          That Bankruptcy Reform Act is an excellent example of his hypocrisy as well. And imho supports the idea that DC knew it was all going to come down and did nothing but protect the cronies.

        • Mary says:

          The sumbitch voted FOR both wars.

          These Progs are f’ing idiots.

        • Mary says:

          Oh—and most of us seniors think he’s a blathering idiot.

  6. tommy says:

    Pizza addiction is the worst. ‘Delivery man killed – PUEBLA : A furious client killed a pizza delivery man in Mexico for being 40 minutes late, authorities said. The victim’s body, eyes blindfolded and hands bound, was found on Monday’.

  7. wmcb says:

  8. angienc says:

    Are Vile Progs Really That Stupid?

    Short answer: Yes.

    Longer answer:

    Million Muppet March in Washington to defend public broadcasting

    A campaign to defend America’s Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) – using Big Bird, the fuzzy yellow character on Sesame Street, as a figurehead – is to feature a puppet-based protest next month dubbed the Million Muppet March.

    The demonstration is scheduled for 3 November at the National Mall in Washington, three days before the presidential election, after the idea was dreamed up on on social media.

    Mitt Romney pledged during the 3 October presidential debate to end the federal government’s subsidy for the PBS despite his professed love for Big Bird, one of the characters on the channel’s 43-year-old children’s educational programme alongside the Muppets.

    Michael Bellavia, 43, president of the animation studio Animax Entertainment from Los Angeles, and Chris Mecham, 46, a writer who is studying political science at Boise State University, separately came up with the Million Muppet March idea in response.


    Please note that Mecham is a 46 year old student — GET A JOB!

  9. tommy says:

    Oh, this is rich! ‘Anonymous differs with Wikileaks – The computer hacker collective Anonymous has distanced itself from Wikileaks, claiming the whisteblowers’ site has become too focused on the personal tribulations of its founder, Julian Assange. Many of Wikileaks more recent documents exposes are believed to have been provided by the hacker group. A statement posted on the Anonymous Twitter account, AnonymousIRC, said : “We only hear about Julian Assange, like he had dinner last night with Lady Gaga. Thats great for him but not much of our interest. We are more interested in transparent governments”.’

  10. of course they’re stupid. They use most of their bandwidth to be vile. Nothing left to be smart with….

  11. wmcb says:

  12. piper says:

    Haven’t seen Oswald for a while!

  13. foxyladi14 says:

    RUN BO RUN !!!!!! 😯

  14. myiq2xu says:

    One of my son’s friends posted this on FB:

    Women are so ungrateful I went through the trouble of making her breakfast in bed and I don’t even get a thank you all I get is a what are you doing in my house.

  15. piper says:

    Dog changes his photo and drops part of his name thereby landing in moderation. Help or send dog treats.

  16. myiq2xu says:

  17. tommy says:

    About crazy Joe. His father, Joseph Robinette Biden Sr. was well-off earlier, but later worked as a used-car salesman. Joe Biden studied law, plagiarised and got an F, a punishment that was overturned after he said that he didn’t know citation rules. Had a bad case of the stutters into his twenties. Overcame it through long sessions of poetry recitation. Never works on Dec 18, the day a vehicle killed his first wife and daughter. Once said,”In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans. You cannot go to a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have an Indian accent. I’m not joking”. He insisted later that he was joking.

    • angienc says:

      But he *always* says what he means!

      This is *exactly* who Joe Biden reminded me of (form & content) at the debate:

  18. myiq2xu says:


    I just saw a preview for Bayou Millionaires Redneck Rehab and a guy is wearing ass-less overalls.

    • angienc says:

      Par for the course — remember “feminist” comic Sandra Bernhardt wishing Sarah Palin would get gang-raped by “big black men” (’cause Sarah is the racist one).

    • HELENK says:

      I really do not remember this much ugliness until the 2008 campaign. It is like a virus infected the democratic party.
      If it was there before that I did not see it

    • tommy says:

      *The War on Women*

    • DM says:

      It’s what I would expect. It’s been U.S. policy since forever to keep a foothold in countries that it sees as critical to its interests. Libya is strategic not only because of its placing across from Europe by the Mediterranean Sea, but its resources, oil. You don’t think that all this Libya mess had anything to do with Gaddafi, do you?

      Hillary is simply continuing U.S. foreign policy that’s been in place since WW2

  19. tommy says:

    ‘Coke glass bottles become history in US – The last of the iconic 6.5-ounce Coke bottles has reached the end of the line in the US. The bottles, cast for the Minneapolis Coke bottling works in 1948 was the last glass returnable bottle filled and capped in the US. “This is the last one,” Leroy Telstad, vice president and general manager, said, holding the bottle high before handing it off to auctioneer Jon Kohner. 5 minutes and $2,000 later, Michael Faber, president of Viking Coca-Cola of S Cloud, became the proud owner of what is doubtless the most expensive bottle of pop ever sold in Winona. “I plan to retire on this one day,” he said of his purchase. Others, who want their own sip, will have an opportunity beginning next week to purchase one of the remaining 5879 bottles filled during the final run. Telstad said the last 6.5-ounce bottles will be sold for $20 each, with all proceeds going to resurface Winona’s bike and walking paths. The Winona Coca-Cola Bottling Company has been filling the bottle since it opened in 1932. The first Coke was sold in 1886 at a drugstore soda fountain in Atlanta. The bottled Coke first sold in Vicksburg and then across the US. It wouldn’t be sold in ‘Coke bottles’ for 21 years. The iconic bottle was the product of a 1915 design competition won by Root Glass Company in Indiana’. The end of an era.

  20. votermom says:

    Hey myiq- can I publish the introductory book club post & keep it stickied over the weekend (thru tonight)? Just a few line will show on the front page, so it won’t take up much space.

  21. HELENK says:

    this kind of reminded me of obots and then came NOV 6th

  22. yttik says:

    “Are vile progs this stupid?”

    That’s a rhetorical question, right?

    Actually they’re not stupid, they’re just blinded by their own bullshi$. The mouth moves and eventually the brain starts to follow and then logic and reason just fade away.

    I wouldn’t like Ryan very much if he had refused to sign those letters. That’s something a bitter, partisan hack would do. Obots love to project their own ugliness onto others, so not doubt that’s exactly what they would have done, refused to participate since they didn’t get their way.

  23. tommy says:

    Strange story…..’South Korean man gets life in “octopus” murder case – A South Korean man was jailed for life on Thursday for the murder of his girlfriend, who police originally believed had accidentally choked to death while eating a live octopus. The case was reopened after it was discovered that the girl had taken out a life insurance policy and the man was the sole beneficiary of $189,400′. Hmm… octopus?really?

  24. angienc says:

    Meanwhile, media continues to report Romney’s big crowds (this has video):

    Romney On the Rise in Ohio
    Maybe Vice President Joe Biden stopped the bleeding for the Obama campaign on Thursday, but he did little to stall the momentum Mitt Romney’s building in Ohio.

    “I’ve had the fun of going back and forth across Ohio, and this week, I was also in Florida and Iowa, … in North Carolina and Virginia,” Romney told 8,500 people packed into the Lancaster Town Square last night for a rally featuring him and running mate Paul Ryan.

    Ryan debated Biden on Thursday night in Kentucky in their lone duel of the campaign; afterward, both sides were claiming victory.

    “You know what? There’s a growing crescendo of enthusiasm,” Romney said. “People recognize that this is not an ordinary campaign, this is a critical time in the country. There’s more energy and passion. People are getting behind this campaign.”

    Romney was previously greeted by huge crowds in Cuyahoga Falls on Tuesday night (12,000 people) and in Sidney, Ohio, on Wednesday night (9,000), and both he and Ryan have campaign stops scheduled in the state today. Ryan also added a noon rally in Cincinnati on Monday.

    • yttik says:

      “Maybe Vice President Joe Biden stopped the bleeding for the Obama campaign on Thursday…”

      No way! He made it worse. Contrary to popular opinion, Americans don’t like a-holes.

      Romney is ahead in at least a dozen polls today. Pretty amazing. It’s too early to see if the VP debate had any impact, but I’m predicting that it didn’t help Obama one bit.

    • myiq2xu says:

      Meanwhile, media continues to report Romney’s big crowds

      This is a new development. Positive one too.

      • angienc says:

        Oh, didn’t you see this yesterday — from the AP no less — the worm has turned!

        As Election Day nears, Romney crowds are surging

        SIDNEY, Ohio (AP) — The crowds tell the story. As Election Day nears, Mitt Romney is drawing large and excited throngs.

        Look to dusty Iowa cornfields, rain-soaked Virginia parks, the muddy fields of the Shelby County Fairgrounds, where a crowd of 9,500 – almost half of this western Ohio town – gathered among the barns and stables on a frigid October evening this week to glimpse the Republican presidential contender.

        “Where else would we want to be?” said one of the shivering faithful, Judy Cartwright, a 71-year-old nurse from Sidney. “I want to see the next president of the United States.”

      • DandyTiger says:

        They want to see the next president. They can all feel it in their bones.

        • trist says:

          Yup! Much as I didn’t want to see the one get in the first time, you could just sense it was going to happen. Almost like it HAD to happen.

          That’s how it is right now. It’s not something you need any polls to tell you, it’s just something you feel.

        • DandyTiger says:

          Yep. And even though I disagree with a lot of their policies, I’m going to feel better with an adult in the WH. Of course we could be wrong, he could surround himself with children much as Obama has, but I kind of doubt it.

        • trist says:

          We don’t know what a Romney admin. will be like, but it can’t be worse!
          Of course, I never imagined I’d see a Pres. worse than Bush come along either. And certainly not the very NEXT president, so maybe I’d better shut up! ^_^

        • Karma says:

          Yup, yup! You can feel it.

          And I can’t wait to be upset at Mitt for his actual policies and not the bs version of reality Obama spews at us.

          Every time Obama talks it’s like nails on a chalkboard. Since often what he just said was illegal, a lie he has no intention of implementing, or a liar’s version of what he did implement, a contradiction, unconstitutional, naive, impossible, taking praise for the previous guy’s policies, a word fog of nothingness, a strawman argument, insulting, dismissive, divisive, etc….

          It will be refreshing.

  25. DM says:

    It would have been irresponsible for states and lawmakers not to get as much money as they could, regardless of whether they thought that the stimulus is a good idea or not. Was Ryan supposed to say: “You should not have passed that stimulus, I’m against it. Go ahead give it all to California.” That would be the stupidest thing a representative could do. His job was to get as much of that money that stupid Obama made available.

    Btw, it happens all the time. People may disagree with the decision, but once is made, they go along with it because other choices are worse. One of them is war. A young man may not agree with the war, but if drafted, he’ll go. It’s war or jail. He’ll go to war and hope for the best. We don’t always agree with the choices other people make, but make the best under the circumstances.

  26. tommy says:

    How Biden gets to be Romneys VP? If its a 269-269 electoral tie, the House chooses the Preezy, so Romney wins. But the Senate chooses the VP, and with the Dems still expected to hold the Senate, Biden could be Romneys VP. This according to Philip Klein at the Washington Examiner. Lol, what a bizarre scenario. I can’t stop laughing. The wingnuts over at hotair aren’t too pleased, as expected.

  27. HELENK says:

    watch for information on benghazi over the next 72 hours

    sunday talk shows?????? headlines?????

  28. yttik says:

    Arrrggg, the media is unbelievable. The lead story is still…Justin Bieber’s stolen lap top and alleged racy videos. Or was it all just a publicity stunt?

    Every time they analyze the security, the “crime” scene videos, I’m absolutely disgusted that they didn’t put this much effort into what happened in Libya.

  29. wmcb says:

  30. gxm17 says:

    The vile progs are trying so hard to “Palin” Ryan and it ain’t gonna work. Newsflash to Obamanation: Ryan has a penis.

    I thought that was the stupidest of Biden’s many stupid moments. Come on, progbots, of course he requested money for his constituents. He’d be a shitty congressman if he didn’t. UFB.

    And yes, vile progs are the stupidest of the stupid because they actually think they’re smarter than everyone else.

    • angienc says:

      The vile progs are trying so hard to “Palin” Ryan and it ain’t gonna work. Newsflash to Obamanation: Ryan has a penis.

      I hate it that this is exactly why their attempt to “Palin” Ryan will fail, but it is. 😦

  31. wmcb says:

  32. tommy says:

    Is one of my comments in moderation?

  33. HELENK says:

    are the prog vile and stupid YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT THEY ARE.

    this one is part of the backtrack bunch

  34. tommy says:

    Gallup has Romney ahead by +2, and Rasmussen by +1.

  35. threewickets says:

    OFA has gone very very quiet today. Anyway, here’s their latest ad.

    • Karma says:

      Once again, if progressives care so much, then donate to Planned Parenthood. But even worse, most of OFA’s ads essentially insult the intelligence of the viewer on one level or another.

      Who is approving these things? Do they test their effectiveness past the base?

  36. Lulu says:

    The preference cascade keeps rolling along. The inevitability of re-election collapsed in one 90 minute humiliation and it was the primary reason for most of his support.

    “When edifices – particularly political edifices built around the myth and personality of one man – collapse, they collapse suddenly. The center does not hold. The man dragged from the spider hole isn’t a dictator, he’s a prisoner. The Master of the Universe hedge fund manager who’s really just a Ponzi schemer gets booked at Rikers like the rest of ’em. The spell cast by power, once broken, is hard to restore.

    (And no, I’m not comparing Obama to infamous war criminals. I’m examining the way people view organizations centered on a leader, not on an idea, and why they’re ultimately fragile.)

    In the case of the Obama Personality Cult, we believed the Maximum Leader was more brilliant, more charismatic and more skillful than our own candidate. Sure, he was wrong on the issues, a disaster from start to finish, but we still felt a sense of intimidation. That changed last week, as I outlined.”

    • Pips says:

      In pretty much that same vein, Mark Steyn writes:

      The United States is the first nation in history whose democracy has evolved to the point where its leader is provided with a wide-body transatlantic jet in order to campaign on the vital issue of public funding for sock puppets. Sure, Caligula put his horse in the senate, but it was a real horse.


  37. trist says:

    Are there any plans to have a pool or contest to see who can come closest to guessing the outcome on Election night? As far as which of the swing states goes to whom?
    I’m calling CO FL OH MO IA WI VA NC for Romney and Obama with NH MI NV and AZ.
    With a final tally of;
    Romney/Ryan 291
    Obama/Biden 227

    Well not final as I left off PA. that one, I’m not ready to call for either yet.

    • DM says:

      I’ll trade you NV and AZ for IA. Like you, I’ll wait on PA, but it certainly has the potential. I think Romney may win NH, but I will wait on that one too.

    • DM says:

      I think Romney will surpass 300 electoral votes. Be aware that CA electoral votes go to winner of the popular vote, not the winner of the CA vote. Jerry signed that law in 2011. I disagree with that law. I don’t believe it’s democratic.

      • votermom says:

        winner of the popular vote, not the winner of the CA vote
        How does that work?

        • DM says:

          If lets say that Romney wins the popular vote, but because the electoral vote distribution doesn’t always go with the popular vote, he would still win the electoral vote count because CA will give him the 55 CA electoral votes. In the case of Obama, it doesn’t make a difference if he wins the popular vote and loses the electoral vote because CA would go to Obama. But it makes a difference for Romney because he doesn’t carry CA popular vote.

        • DM says:

          I should have said CA electoral votes go the candidate that wins the NATIONAL popular vote.

        • DM says:

          It’s also not clear if the law is constitutional. The Supremes may have to get involved if CA electoral votes go to the candidate that didn’t win CA.

        • votermom says:

          What – do you mean California will let the voters of other states decide where their electoral votes go?
          That’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard.

        • votermom says:

          It’s clearly unconstitutional.
          – SC Justice Votermom

          • myiq2xu says:

            It’s clearly unconstitutional.

            Actually, it is constitutional. The constitution sets up the EC and tells how the EC delegates are to be apportioned among the states, but it is silent on how each state should choose their electors. Legally speaking, you only get to vote for President because your state lets you. The state legislature could pick electors if they wanted to.

        • DM says:

          Only the Supremes can decide that issue. I don’t like it.

        • DM says:

          The law is meant to make sure that the candidate with the most votes nationally becomes president and avoid the situation of a candidate winning the most votes but losing the election because of the way the electoral votes are distributed.

        • votermom says:

          I’m curious – what was the rationale for passing this law anyway?

        • trist says:

          I was looking up info on this and there’s a video explaining it here

          Ca. is the 8th state to do this apparently.

        • DM says:

          Trist, yes.

        • trist says:

          I suppose for any of us not living in swing states that needed motivation to get our butts to the polls, this is it! Can you imagine if Romney took Ca? Woo-doogie!

        • angienc says:

          Let me guess — Bush v. Gore 2000?

          CA is really full of dumbasses.

        • trist says:

          Hem-hem. I actually grew up in Ca. Thank you very much. ^_^

        • angienc says:

          Oh, and it clearly isn’t Constitutional — the EC is set up in the Constitution.

          It will be funny though when Romney wins CA this year. Put me down for 330 Romney.

        • votermom says:

          It will be funny though when Romney wins CA this year.

          I predict that if CA does end up giving it’s electoral votes to Romney despite it’s own CA popular votes going for Obama, that is law is going to be repealed in record time.

      • DM says:

        We crossed our paths while posting. See above for the rationale.

        • DM says:

          angienc, we don’t know if it’s unconstitutional because the electoral votes are going to the national vote winner. It’s really an interpretation that only the SC can decide. So now it matters, even in places like TX who gets the most votes. So let’s say that TX votes 80% for Romney, and CA votes 50.5% for Obama, we could find a situation that on an electoral count, the people of TX decide who gets the CA votes.

          See what I mean? The law stinks. I’m very much against it. We’re a federation and I’m for each state voting for the candidate. I’m not a federalist that looks at everything on a national level.

      • myiq2xu says:

        That law doesn’t take effect unless and until enough states representing 270 electoral votes do the same thing.

        If California really wanted to put a shock to the system they would apportion their votes based on % of popular vote.

        Candidates would actually start campaigning here.

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