Some times two posts were meant for each other.
Jonathan S. Toobin at Commentary:
The morning after the vice presidential debate, Democrats are delighted. Vice President Joe Biden’s obnoxious display was exactly what was needed to cheer them up after a week of morose speculation about why President Obama was so passive and uninspired at last week’s first presidential debate with Mitt Romney. Indeed, the more Biden giggled, smirked and interrupted Paul Ryan, the better they liked it. While his condescending and bullying behavior contradicted liberal doctrine about conservatives being the ones guilty of polluting the public square with political incivility, it embodied their complete contempt for both Republicans and their ideas. Biden’s nastiness may have re-invigorated a Democratic base that wanted nothing so much as to tell their opponents to shut up, even if it may have also alienated a great many independents. But with the main focus of the election still on the remaining two presidential debates, it’s not clear that President Obama can profit from Biden’s example.
The reason for this is not very complicated. The Democrats cheering on Biden’s bullying, while ignoring the fact that he had nothing to offer on the future of entitlements and his disgraceful alibis about Libya, did so because at bottom they really do not feel Republicans or conservatives are worthy of respect or decency. Though they rarely own up to it, they don’t think Republicans are so much wrong as they are bad. By contrast, most Republicans think Democrats are wrong, not evil. Ryan, whose polite behavior was entirely proper but was made to appear passive and even weak when compared to his bloviating opponent, demonstrated this paradigm by patiently trying to explain his positions even when he was constantly interrupted.
Hard-core Democrats would have been happy had Obama treated Romney the same way Biden did Ryan (some even falsely claim that Romney behaved in a similar manner to Biden), and there were plenty of signs that he shares his number two’s contempt for the opposition. But while a vice president, especially one who has often been treated as something of a national joke during his four years in office, might be allowed to get away with playing the buffoon, a president cannot. That means next week the president will have to again behave like a grown up. Given the town hall meeting format at the Hofstra University debate, it will be even more important for him to be as civil as Biden was rude. If, as is very likely, Romney again gives a strong performance and doesn’t allow himself to be run roughshod over (as perhaps Ryan did at times), then the odds are Democrats will again be unhappy with their leader’s showing.
The problem here is not just that presidents and would-be commanders-in-chief must appear presidential. It is that the liberal base of the president’s party is so filled with anger and contempt for Republicans that they can’t abide even a show of civility from their champions.
Democrats wouldn’t behave like that, would they?
They not only behave that way, they take pride in it.
John Cole at Buffoon Juice:
Maybe it is just me, but all the doom and gloom of the past two weeks on the blogs I regularly read that picked up after the Obama debate seems to have completely subsided since Joe Biden slapped around America’s greatest bullshit artist, Paul Ryan. Maybe I am alone on this, but it sure feels like Biden did everything he needed. Fired up the base, exposed bullshit lies as bullshit lies, went after Romney at every chance, and at long last showed contempt for the contemptible ideas Republicans are pushing. This was Josh Marshall’s bitch slap theory of politics in action.
Way to go, Joe.
Back in the real world, the White House spent most of Friday walking back some of the numerous inaccuracies and misstatements uttered by Joe Biden during the debate. Meanwhile, the general (but not unanimous) consensus seems to be that Joe Biden behaved in a manner commonly known as an “asshole.”
But wait! There’s more!
From the comments at Buffoon Juice:
Joe threw a perfect game, hit a grand slam home run every time up, touched all the bases, and left the field like a gladiator who smiled and laughed because he was glad he ate the lion, the Christians, and everyone in the stands – including the Emperors of the MSM.
And then kicked the game winning field goal, had a hat-trick, drained a trey – all while wearing the yellow shirt the entire race, and leaving Ussein Bolt in his wake in the 100 Meter Dash.
And, he ate all his low-fat protein, spinach, and fruit.
Not a bad night!
We’re in a battle of the hearts and minds of Americans, with the entire lazy MSM, the Republican puke funnel and all of the propaganda machinery the Kochs and their ilk can employ against us. We have the truth and the ability to ridicule on our side, and it needs to be fully deployed. As terrifying as it is, the half-wits who will decide this election will be swayed by the winning/losing narrative, and the Dems need to hone the message into easily digestible sound bites for them for the next three weeks. No one wants to vote for a punch line loser. Obama needs to deliver the knock out takeaway meme at the next debate, and we’re just the ones who can do it.
Unfortunately I think all the people who think it is going to make a difference are grasping at straws. Then again I didn’t think the Presidential debate was going to make a difference.
The difference is that the MSM all collectively decided they were going to make the presidential debate about “Obama’s failure” because the guy has been damn near perfect in every way in the campaign till now. He did just fine but I was surprised how many people on the left bought into it as well. With the Biden debate he basically threw it right back at them and the MSM is just calling it a tie..lol.
How distorted is your grasp of reality when you think the mainstream media is against Barack Obama?